/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7936490]

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[Anonymous No.7936493]

An uncanny fellow.
I fear him.

[Anonymous No.7936495]

>>7936490
I hate this monster so much.

[Anonymous No.7936526]

One of the worst of a bad lot. You can't think of enough rotten things to say about him. He's fast, hard to kill, casts spells, and resurrects dead monsters! At least these suckers are rare

[Anonymous No.7936558]

>>7936526
>he’s fast

Wow, I’ve never been able to put my thumb on why this asshole is so beyond annoying - but that’s it. He’s just so quick. Especially in big hordes where there’s 2nd and 3rd tier monsters blocking your shots on him like offensive linemen - meanwhile he’s running around resurrecting all the chaingunners

[Anonymous No.7936563]

>>7936526
>rare

Play Plutonia

[Anonymous No.7936634]

>>7936558
>>7936563
Bros that was copypasta from the DoomII manual.

[Anonymous No.7936637]

I hate the way he just chuckles at you, smug cheating bastard

[Anonymous No.7936717]

Uhhuhuhuhhuuu

[Anonymous No.7937026]

The thing I hate about archviles isn't any of their abilities. It's that they have every hallmark of a frail creature and aren't. They look frail as shit, practically could snap if looked at wrong. They are quintessential spellcaster monsters and leaders, revive the dead and cast their annoying hitscan bounce on you. They are positioned safely in the back where you'd put the party wizard. So why are archviles the tankiest pieces of shit next to barons? They're thicker than mancubi in hit points.

[Anonymous No.7937224]

>>7936634
Doom zoomers dont actually play the ols games

[Anonymous No.7937235]

>>7936634
>>7937224
Who had the manual? We all just got illegal copies of the game.

[Anonymous No.7937238]

>>7937235
>Who had the manual? We all just got illegal copies of the game.
Get illegal copies of the manual too, dumbass. It's not the full experience 'till you do.

[Anonymous No.7937287]

>>7937235
>we
Sure lots of people pirated software, but let's face it, the current Doom General "we" only got it illegally when they downloaded it 5-10 years ago because they're zoomers.

[Anonymous No.7937346]

>>7937287
I don't think any of my friends bought that shit growing up, and I know my older brother pirated everything thanks to his friend, it's how I discovered Doom, Duke Nukem, and Max Payne.
Shit was fun.

[Anonymous No.7937661]

>>7936490

>large room
>lots of monsters
>there are two archviles

[Anonymous No.7938456]

>>7936558
He's honestly one of the best enemies ever put in an FPS.

>>7936634
A lot of people pirated the game and never read the manual.

>>7937026
To make them non-trivial and a serious threat, you can't just them one or two rockets or salvos from the double-barrel, you're forced to focus fire on them, and that can make you vulnerable to other monsters around you.

[Anonymous No.7938470]

>>7937224
Who the fuck is on this board and talking about classic Doom without playing it? It's been trivially easy to pirate for decades, has lots of good sourceport options, and there's even good and accurate ports on consoles now for dirt cheap. Anyone who has one of the many different machines which can play the game, an internet connection, and an interest in playing it, is very much doing so.

>>7937287
Lots of people in their late 20s and in their 30s there, some even in their 40s. Yeah, lots of newer people in recent years, but whatever, if they're actually interested in playing the game, I don't see the problem.

>>7937346
Yeah. Cool older brothers rule, love my big bro.

[Anonymous No.7938525]

Doom 2 was shit. The first was infinitely better in every way.
>B-but the super shotty and the meme skeletons!
Doesn't save it.

[Anonymous No.7938538]

>>7938525
What a NPC opinion

[Anonymous No.7938543]

>>7936490
My favorite retro enemy. Shame they are so underused.

[Anonymous No.7938569]

>Arch Vile has stigmata and raises the dead

He's basically an evil mockery of Jesus

[Anonymous No.7938586]

>>7938569
Someone ought to cancel those Satanists over at id

[Anonymous No.7938652]

>>7938525
Levels aren't as strong on average, but there's still plenty of good ones, and as a tool set for mappers it's invaluable, the new monsters are fantastic.

>>7938569
I don't think they're ever depicted with Stigmata

[Anonymous No.7938673]

>>7938652
It's hands glow red when it's resurrecting.

It raises it's arms up when doing the fire magic.

[Anonymous No.7938674]

>>7938673
Oh yeah.

[Anonymous No.7938685]

>>7936490
Somehow I've always found Pain Elementals way more annoying than these guys

[Anonymous No.7938917]

>>7938685
Pain Elementals are amazing in Doom 64
>spits two Lost Souls at once
>lets off four of them on death
>also Lost Souls are aggressive as fuck now and explode like rockets on death
>so not only do they basically double as horrible homing missiles, they also counter cockblock you from the classic trick of cockblocking the Pain Elemental's spawn; you'll take that explosion if you block his spawning
>has all new nightmarish sounds and looks to top him off

[Anonymous No.7938952]

>>7938917
they look like ass though

[Anonymous No.7939474]

>>7938456
>A lot of people pirated the game and never read the manual.
Well then those people should shut the fuck up and not post here....simple as.

[Anonymous No.7939480]

>>7937235
JFC the amount of people on this board under the age of 11 is staggering

[Anonymous No.7939538]

>>7936490
I love archviles. Sure, they're a pain in the ass to fight, but the design niche they fill is absolutely great. It's an imminent threat, it has a unique attack and you can use it to replenish a player's ammo. Archviles are only bad if they're used badly.

[Anonymous No.7939547]

>>7936490
The archvile epitomizes why most FPS games after Doom 2 still fail to live up to the originals. Very unique kind of enemy that completely changes how an encounter plays out if just one of them is added to a group of 50 others. Even though the level design in Doom 2 is inconsistent compared to 1, all of the new monsters really flesh out the gameplay. Neo boomer shooters always fail to build a convincing and complementary bestiary.

[Anonymous No.7939549]

>>7936490
Overrated. Good but overrated.

[Anonymous No.7939552]

>>7938673
Stigmata has feet and the torso stab wound too.

[Anonymous No.7939596]

>>7938525
I can't go back to Doom after Doom 2. I get up to about a third of the way through the second episode before quitting out of boredom.

[Anonymous No.7939712]

>>7939596
Try the wad "Knee Deep in ZDoom". It's a doom 1 wad and has been a blast so far. It's just episode 1 though.

[Anonymous No.7939897]

>>7939596
>>7939712
Are there any wads that take the Doom 1 maps but spice them up a bit with Doom 2 monsters?

[Anonymous No.7940096]

>>7937235
I bought the game when it came out, fagbag.

[Anonymous No.7940364]

>>7939474
>I'm a gud boi who only ever pays the big megacorps money

>>7939712
KDIZD is not that good IMO.

[Anonymous No.7940512]

>>7936490
>MEDIC!! I NEED A MEDIC OVER HERE!!

[Anonymous No.7940591]

>>7940364
Being a pirate has nothing to do with reading the manual.

As a seasoned pirate, I still read manuals.

[Anonymous No.7940602]

>>7940591
You can plain jump into Doom and learn as you go though, the game is largely self-explanatory if you've ever played any other FPS.

[Anonymous No.7940606]

>>7940602
A true statement. I think it's just generally best practice to read the manuals before playing to make sure there's nothing you're missing. Hell, even when I download some older console games, I dig up the manual to see what's up.

Plus, some manuals like the Doom II manual are fun reads before playing.

[Anonymous No.7940607]

>>7940364
>I'm a contrarian zoomer
Why are you all like this? I didn't say anything about spending a dime. I said read the fuckin manual you illiterate piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.7940614]

>>7940607
>Why are you all like this?
I don't know but surely they have to be tired of trying to one up people all the goddamn time. These people have been raised in overly hostile environments (this site) and lack social skills.

We don't HAVE to be belligerent all the time FFS.

[Anonymous No.7942424]

Hi Archibald.