/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7920760]

is it okay to charge 80 dollars for snes/nes games?

https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/21478/FINAL_FANTASY_IVI_Bundle/

[Anonymous No.7920782]

>>7920760
For six of them? That's $13.33 for a game that can easily last 20-30 hours, longer if you're a completionist.

[Anonymous No.7920798]

>>7920760
/vr/ is so autistic i can never tell if threads/posts are ironic or not
if you pay money for roms you are an absolute fool. if you pay money for a rom download, you are retarded twice over. who would fucking give steam money to have them cloud host ROMS?
every single /vr/ game you could ever want to play is FREE outside of a small selection of platforms that haven't been/have poor emulation.

[Anonymous No.7920815]

>>7920798
These aren't roms, the genesis collection however, those are roms.

[Anonymous No.7920821]

>>7920760
If they had the original snes sprites I wouldn't mind so much but they don't even have that, fuck them. I can play for FREE why would bother?

[Anonymous No.7920848]

>>7920782
much much longer

[Anonymous No.7920850]

>>7920821
Ummm...

[Anonymous No.7920931]

FF3 could be worth it since it's not just an inferior version of a port that already exists and can be emulated. You can buy them individually, right?

[Anonymous No.7920992]

>>7920760
>Windows only
Dropped. I'll continue playing the superior GBA ports.

[Anonymous No.7921009]

>>7920760
Really should be 60 at most.
>>7920992
The mod community will always be better on PC though. That "sound restoration" hack only goes so far.

[Anonymous No.7921017]

>>7920760
not at all since the SNES games are much better than this trash

[Anonymous No.7921098]

Why the fuck do people here keep lying about the remakes being snes roms

[Anonymous No.7921115]

>>7921098
what are they? do they have some notable improvements? im curious

[Anonymous No.7921161]

>>7920760
>>7921115
Reposting what we can expect to see, judging from the footage in the initial trailer...
>Upscaled Origins-esque visual style in general, with character and monster designs looking like more direct renditions of classic sprites (classes are obvious examples but look closely at Garland and Adamantoise).
>Recent logos for I-III, original logos for IV-VI.
>FF (Fast-Forward) button spotted several times, making grinding less tedious.
>Final Fantasy battles lack MP and instead show your turn's action, suggesting the MP system from DoS-onward has been reverted to the original spell charge system as intended. [Confirmed in subsequent footage.]
>Cecil is shown to move diagonally at a point or two in FFIV's overworld, so 8-directional movement looks to be carried over. [Confirmed in subsequent footage.]
>Minimaps are available like later games in the series.
>UI seems to be classic and not mobile.
>Opens with OG music and graphics, which MIGHT imply a music/graphics toggle (not 100% for sure).
>Weirdly enough, Rydia appears as a child in FFIV footage, but this may be a placeholder.
>Mobile and Steam only..for now.
More recent footage also shows that the Soul of Chaos appears to be gone, though rumors persist that the extra content will be DLC.

[Anonymous No.7921180]

>>7920760
Only when Nintendo does it.

[Anonymous No.7921192]

>>7921161
I wouldn't count on the extra content being there. The GBA content was made for the rebalanced (and much stronger) classes. Imagine fighting Omega or Chronodia with limited healing magic.

[Anonymous No.7921216]

I've never played FFVI before, should I play the SNES or GBA version? Is the original SNES translation okay?

[Anonymous No.7921231]

>>7921216
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1386/

[Anonymous No.7921242]

>>7920760
no it isn't. we need to get into the streets and riot.

[Anonymous No.7921247]

yeah it's fine, nobody is being forced to but this garbage

[Anonymous No.7921252]

>>7921180
Rent free.

[Anonymous No.7921267]

>>7921161
>Logos
>A feature already in Final Fantasy Origins in terms of FF1 magic system
>A fast forward button you can get in any emulator
>"Classic UI"
Top kek. ROM purchasers will defend anything.

[Anonymous No.7921281]

>>7921161
I'd be disappointed if the extra content is DLC and will skip but if the toggle thing is true then that'd already make it the best version alone.

[Anonymous No.7921304]

>>7920760
You could have bought them all (if you're a nip or can read JP) cheaper on the Wii before they shut down the shop and they wouldn't look like phone games so yes.

[Anonymous No.7921308]

>>7920815
they are souless demakes at best, the original (best versions of the) games are fucking FREE
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
and you can emulate them however you want, or play them on any device you want, or play them on original hardware if you want, and configure them exactly how you want to play them.
also.....
IT'S FUCKING-FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.7921402]

>>7921308
Newsflash, you can get these for free too.

Are people really stupid enough to think computer and mobile games can't be pirated?

[Anonymous No.7921448]

The font looks terrible.

[Anonymous No.7921452]

>>7921402
considering OP was even thinking about buying these, i can only assume he doesn't know/care to pirate things or thinks he will get le virus. ROMs have a million easy to access sites to get them from.
also why pirate these when you can play the better, original versions?

[Anonymous No.7921805]

>>7921448
The jp font looks great, they fucked the English font for some reason

[Anonymous No.7921917]

>>7920760
if these were switch ports, no one would care.

[Anonymous No.7921924]

>>7920760
1-3 are the only ones worth getting. The rest look almost identical to the SNES versions, minus the new (shitty) backgrounds.

[Anonymous No.7922016]

>>7921448
Fonts are rendered with vectors for a reason, anon.

[Anonymous No.7922058]

>>7921448
looks perfectly fine

[Anonymous No.7922070]

>>7921308
If you consider roms a free then indont understand why you wouldn't consider just pirating the remakes as free too

[Anonymous No.7922082]

>>7922058
You look perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.7922754]

>>7921308
i bet you eat straight out of the dumpster because it's fucking freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.7922794]

>>7922754
Deal with it, nerd. Maybe someday your collection will be something you can hand down to those kids you'll never have lmao

[Anonymous No.7922803]

>>7921452
>also why pirate these when you can play the better, original versions?
Because they're new and people want something different ya retard

[Anonymous No.7922880]

>>7920992
Squeenix titles on Steam tend to run through Proton without many issues. The only consistent problem I had was a small amount of input lag while switching between keyboard controls and a gamepad. Unless these remasters are full of intrusive DRM, they should run fine.

[Anonymous No.7923336]

>>7920760
the fact that ff1 and ff2 cost less than the rest indicates they have some awareness that the price is a little steep, at least. i think the price should probably be lower, but otoh, if you think $12-18 per game for games that last 20-60 hours is a serious problem, then you should probably be using your time more intelligently than playing 60 hour games

[Anonymous No.7923379]

>>7921308
DON'T WATCH AN ANIME CALLED BOKU

[Anonymous No.7923384]

>>7920760
Honestly, I think people are overreacting to the graphics of these.

[Anonymous No.7923390]

No, they don't add anything new afaik and you can just get them for free and patch them with whatever patch you want. Don't be a dumb consoomer.

[Anonymous No.7923415]

>>7921308
Because something is 30 years old doesn't mean it's free

Pirates are so brain damaged they don't even realize they're pirates anymore

[Anonymous No.7923483]

>>7923415
I will never pay for software.

[Anonymous No.7923486]

>>7921308
There’s nothing gayer than needing to justify piracy

[Anonymous No.7923502]

>>7920798
shut the fuck up, you're angering the copyright holders

the free ride can't last forever

[Anonymous No.7923792]

>>7921448
at least it's evenly spaced, unlike the english one

good thing i'll play them all in japanese

[Anonymous No.7923818]

>>7920931
Yes. I will be getting 3. If I see positive response to the other games I might pick up another. I don't really want to play 2 without arcane labyrinth so hopefully that will be included

[Anonymous No.7923824]

>>7921448
why can't i find that dialogue in the ff1 script? did they rewrite the original script?

[Anonymous No.7923834]

>>7920798
I will never illegally emulate. EVER.

[Anonymous No.7923860]

>>7923824
They rewrote the script twice: first for the WSC/PS1 version, and again for the GBA/PSP version. Interestingly, despite returning to the original spell charges, it looks like we're getting the latter.

[Anonymous No.7923863]

>>7923860
so which is the remaster based on? is that the ps1 version?

[Anonymous No.7923864]

>>7921448
your face is a font

[Anonymous No.7923867]

>>7923863
That's the GBA version, but PSP script is essentially the same. Pixel Remaster really is cobbling the previous versions together.

[Anonymous No.7923873]

>>7923867
but the gba and psp version have mana while the remaster doesn't. looks like they are mixing things up for some reason, i guess the dlc with the bonus psp content might come after all

[Anonymous No.7923886]

>>7920760
Holy shit that price...

[Anonymous No.7923887]

>>7923873
>but the gba and psp version have mana while the remaster doesn't. looks like they are mixing things up for some reason
..That's what I said.

[Anonymous No.7923892]

>>7923887
yeah i know, i mean that as a good thing. at first everybody thought that the "ultimate" remasters will include all the content of each game, then the store page said that they will be based on the original versions of the game, and now we know that some stuff from the newer versions might be included.

as long as they can fix the shitty UI and font, i'm still hopeful

[Anonymous No.7923904]

>>7923867
It'll no doubt keep Garland's "I will knock you all down" meme.

[Anonymous No.7923906]

>>7923904
i'm 99% sure >>7921448 is the replacement of the original "I will knock you all down" line

[Anonymous No.7923917]

>>7923904
The only time they didn't was in the Origins and the Advance translations in Europe, which didn't get the original game.

[Anonymous No.7923918]

>>7923904
I'm pretty sure they already showed a screenshot of it.

[Anonymous No.7924178]

>>7921448
I guess one benefit of these versions is that the Famicom games and presumably IV appear to have updated scripts with kanji rather than the kana only eyesore you get playing the originals, but the clash between low resolution sprites and high resolution backgrounds is pretty unpleasant. I'd be very hesitant to make this version my first way of playing any of these games.

[Anonymous No.7924187]

>>7924178
The PS1 version already had the option for kanji.

[Anonymous No.7924207]

>>7923336
the old mobile ports were also less pricey than the rest. I'm just happy they aren't removing the 3d versions of 3 and 4. Good or bad, at least they are different.

[Anonymous No.7924334]

>>7923834
Based retard

[Anonymous No.7925265]

>>7920760
Yes it's OK. You don't have to purchase it.

[Anonymous No.7925270]

>>7920798
Are you late to the party?

[Anonymous No.7925284]

>>7921231
Fuck me, I just spent the past 3 days grinding on the original. I guess I will start over and use this version. If it sucks I'm going to kick the shit out of you for wasting my time

[Anonymous No.7925309]

>>7925284
No you won't

[Anonymous No.7925501]

Only if it does the following:
>Switch between the music/visuals of the Famicom/PS/GBA/PSP/PS1 versions of these games
>Soundtrack and Art Gallery for each
>Original glitched versions, and alt versions (a la FFIV Easy Mode)

[Anonymous No.7925587]

>>7923483
that's been my motto forever
hardware is worth the money, but software? go fuck yourself, im not paying

[Anonymous No.7925594]

>>7920760
That would be fine if not for the fact that you're buying the inferior """remastered""" versions

[Anonymous No.7925809]

There are people ITT, who looked at these pictures and thought it was an NES rom.

If you're one of these people, and that includes OP, you need to get the fuck out of /vr/ and come back only after you've played at the very least a hundred games from every generation from 1980 to 2007.

[Anonymous No.7925825]

>>7925809
whoa, is that their canon names?

[Anonymous No.7925891]

>>7925809
>low-res graphics and high-res fonts
disgusting

[Anonymous No.7925901]

>>7925809
this shit looks like those vinyl etsy stickers turboweebs buy

[Anonymous No.7925963]

>>7925809
at least it has a fast forward button so you can skip the combat

[Anonymous No.7925979]

>>7925901
and I will!

[Anonymous No.7925987]

>>7923860
Are they going to keep monster names such as Beholder or Mind Flayer?
Did they rewrite the scripts of 4-6 as well?

[Anonymous No.7926006]

>>7925987
Beholder was changed to Evil Eye as far back as the Famicom FF1&2 cart and has kept that name ever since.
Unlike "Beholder", the term "Mind Flayer" is not copyrighted, so that one's staying.

[Anonymous No.7926157]

>>7920760
what does that mean? 'is it okay to?'
people will pay it, so what other considerations are there for morality amd ethics in a market transaction?

[Anonymous No.7926246]

>>7925284
Abandon the FFVI relocalizations, they will soon be obsoleted once Mato is done with his T-Edition translation, whose base script will be immediately backported to vanilla...

[Anonymous No.7926251]

>>7926246
It would be faster to learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.7926257]

>>7926251
Within five months? C'mon, dude.

[Anonymous No.7926258]

>>7926257
Perfectly doable.

[Anonymous No.7926269]

>>7926258
Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.7926271]

>>7926258
Maybe for basic menu navigation, but you're not going to learn enough in that time to enjoy the story.

[Anonymous No.7926272]

>>7926271
It worked for me.
How long did you take?

[Anonymous No.7926279]

>>7926272
no it didn't, you lying toddler reading level ass duplicitous jew

[Anonymous No.7926283]

>>7926279
How long did it take you?

[Anonymous No.7926286]

>>7926283
took four years before I could read German fluently. It didn't take you five months to read Japanese you God damn nigger.

[Anonymous No.7926293]

>>7926006
The Beholder NAME is almost assuredly off limits. The better question is, will Evil Eye's DESIGN be reverted back to Beholder's? Dissidia used Evil Eye's name with Beholder's design as a player icon for at least two games now. If so, this might mean we're back to uncensored Medusa too.

[Anonymous No.7926297]

>>7926286
You must be brain damaged if you need four years to learn German.

[Anonymous No.7926302]

>>7926297
Okay jew that thinks you're fluent after 5 months.

[Anonymous No.7926306]

>>7926302
Stay retarded, brainlet

[Anonymous No.7926308]

>>7926302
You can learn enough to play a game intended for children. Maybe not you but normal users here can.

[Anonymous No.7926310]

>>7926306
Nah, you're the retard. Perfect example of every fucking beginner language student that thinks they're fluent within half a year but reads and pronounces shit like a toddler. Yeah, I used to think the same shit because I could sorta halfway understand die verwandlung. You know so little by that point you have no idea how much you don't even know.

[Anonymous No.7926312]

>>7926258
Really? How?

[Anonymous No.7926315]

>>7926308
That's what you think, Dunning Kruger. Meanwhile everything is flying over your head and you're just looking for keywords and translating mentally in English poorly and not reading as it is.

[Anonymous No.7926316]

>>7926312
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

[Anonymous No.7926320]

The problem is that you guys don't have the same definition of "understanding the language".
You can probably understand a video game designed for children within 5 months, but being fluent, though it doesn't mean talking like you were born in the other country, means being able to go in the streets and talk to people (even with a shit accent).

Reading a video game and talking with people are completely different things. I can tell you that there are tons of people who post and read on 4chan but who are not "fluent" in English.
I used to think I was good in English because games/internet as a teen but it wasn't until I studied it at the university and talked with a lot of british people for a great length of time that I was fluent, and even these days you'd put me in the middle of Scots and I'd be struggling.

In short you're probably both rights. Yes you can probably understand a video game within 5 months, no it doesn't mean you're fluent.

[Anonymous No.7926371]

>>7926320
This is a reasonable take, I just push back against the "just learn Japanese bro" crowd because it's such an unreasonable expectation in a very short period of time. Even if one thinks the goal of just having basic reading comprehension is doable enough, it's a gigantic commitment that the average person here can't do, and I question how good their comprehension is after 5 months. I know a few non Latin scripts like Devanagari, I know how long it took to get to the stage of just reading at a toddler level, I know these people are bluffing about how long it took them in a language 5x more difficult. I will call it out as bad advice whenever I see it. I've even seen threads where other people learning Japanese have called it out as ridiculous, saying it took them at least a year to get to video games.

[Anonymous No.7926594]

>>7926371
Five months and a year aren't that different time scales.
You need to factor in that most people on this site already have experience with spoken Japanese so most of the basics are covered.
Don't knock it if you didn't even try.

[Anonymous No.7926747]

>>7925309
>assuming I didn't graduate from the top of my class in navy seal school

[Anonymous No.7926854]

>>7926594
This. It's not difficult to get the hang of how Japanese grammar works, and at that point it's mostly just vocabulary that stands between you and your average video game. You're not going to encounter overly complex writing in a Nintendo game.

[Anonymous No.7926861]

>>7925825
Yes

[Anonymous No.7926881]

>>7920848
>>7920782
>mindless grinding to pad the game out is "value"

[Anonymous No.7926883]

>>7920760
>is it okay to charge 80 dollars for snes

I paid $110.00 for Final Fantasy III (VI) when it was brand new at a department store. Canadian price. Some of the SNES RPG's could hit that price point.

[Anonymous No.7926950]

>>7926251
We're IN the second half of the year, silly, meaning release can be anytime from one second from now 'til New Year's ball drops, so there's a good chance that will NOT be faster.

[Anonymous No.7926958]

>>7926883
I paid even more to import a US cart to the UK. around the same time.
Would never consider such a thing now.

[Anonymous No.7926961]

to me roms should be no more than a dollar

[Anonymous No.7927009]

>>7920798
Not everyone likes to steal, anon. I only pirate Sega Saturn because a modest collection would cost $10,000+

[Anonymous No.7927017]

>>7920760
No, but I feel they put the price artificially high so people will feel like they're "getting a deal" when they're 70% off inevitably.

[Anonymous No.7927275]

>>7926883
Conker's Bad Fur Day originally retailed at $150 here. I have no idea why it had such a premium.

[Anonymous No.7927307]

>>7927275
I think that was a high memory cartridge, and those things were expensive to make back then.

[Anonymous No.7927383]

>>7920760
Nothing wrong with taking advantage of morons to make some extra cash.

[Anonymous No.7927407]

>>7927383
"morons" who'd like to get the games working natively instead of putzing around and emulating crusty decades old handheld games you need to hack to even begin to cope with how bad they look and sound, yeah.

[Anonymous No.7927453]

>>7927017
Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games are never discounted too much during sales.