Tomb Raider, featuring Lara Croft

[Anonymous No.7911491]

How's your current raidan going?

[Anonymous No.7911508]

>>7911491
Uh OP, you're going to trigger autismos here.

[Anonymous No.7911719]

I'm trying to set all my Tomb Raider games for whenever I want to play them. So far I managed to get only 1 and AoD as close to perfect as possible, and for the past 3 hours I've tried doing the same with 2 but to no avail.TR2Main just refuses to work, and I'm not sure if there's an equivalent to the auto installer for 1. On top of that, vanilla 2 only gives me a black screen, regardless of whether the game is windowed or full screen. Any help?

[Anonymous No.7911882]

extremely soulless

[Anonymous No.7911952]

extreme amounts of soul

[Anonymous No.7912036]

Why is 3 such a bitch to properly setup?

[Anonymous No.7912060]

>>7909814
I did push that crate forward actually. And got to the small area with the lever that allows you to get the conveyor belt fuse. And then I got the fuse right after that crate before the armed guy and the lava pit. So I guess I missed an obvious one early on?

[Anonymous No.7912160]

>>7912036
All of them are. Especially 4. Fuck 4.

[Anonymous No.7912272]

>>7911491
Beautiful water. If simple changes like this would attract more people to this classic gem I don't mind. Love 1st and 4th.

[Anonymous No.7912295]

>>7912160
Are you being serious right now?

[Anonymous No.7912321]

>>7912272

I would like to see Square-Enix commission some group to do modern ports of these games. No graphical updates, option to play in SW rendering or HW acceleration. Maybe also, non-shitty DOS gamepad support. More or less, take the original games, and make them work on modern OS's without having to scour the net for technical advice.

[Anonymous No.7912518]

>>7912321
There was android/ios ports of TR1 + 2 but they're gone now for some reason. Theoretically they would be able to be played natively on windows 11. But like i said, they've disappeared.

[Anonymous No.7912560]

>>7912518
>Play an Android port on Windows
Now why would you want to do that?

[Anonymous No.7912751]

Just got to the end of the Cistern. Silver key was pretty cool, got it myself after traversing water corridors for 30 times. This was rewarding. The idea with water level is quite simple, but the implementation is really well done. There are a lot of visual hints that prompts you to change the water level.

[Anonymous No.7913404]

>>7912295
Yes. I tried for hours to get it to recognize my controller to no avail

[Anonymous No.7913457]

>>7913404
did you try it with JoyToKey?

[Anonymous No.7913536]

>>7913457
Using ds4windows which should be pretty much the same, finally managed to get it to work

[Anonymous No.7914542]

Just started Atlantis during my first playthrough of TR1. I really liked the Egyptian levels even if the enemies in them are annoying. The combat in general isn't very good which is why I'm glad it isn't a huge focus. Right now there isn't one set of levels I like more than the others as each set has their highs and lows; even if the lows are very few.

[Anonymous No.7914616]

>>7912751
>>7914542
pics or never happened

[Anonymous No.7914623]

Downloaded a copy of tomb raider some anon posted here, it has the virus. beware.

[Anonymous No.7914658]

Here is OpenLara with bug fixes, all the files (tracks, videos) and new braid and torso mediafire()com/file/acqhisgx5k2shft

[Anonymous No.7914661]

>>7914616
What exactly do you want a picture of?

[Anonymous No.7914752]

>>7914542
>I really liked the Egyptian levels even if the enemies in them are annoying.
Greek and Egyptian levels are the best thing in Tomb Raider series. One of these classic games is basically 90% Egypt, including Ptolemy era too. I loved that game. They took 3000 years of Egyptian history and did it right. From Old Kingdom Pyramids of Giza to Greek era Cleopatra ruins in Alexandria.

[Anonymous No.7914801]

>>7914661
gameplay caps.

[Anonymous No.7914838]

>>7914623
You mean this anon? >>7914658
But he posted it after your post, and i don't see any other posts containing a download?

[Anonymous No.7915015]

>>7914658
You have those OpenLaura fixes not in an exe? Im not on windows.

[Anonymous No.7915058]

>>7915015
Linux? use the other download and use this binary instead of the exe
anonfiles()com/x9Fcab4au6

[Anonymous No.7915250]

I've only recently heard about OpenLara, but how do you get Tomb Raider 2-5 working on it?
I want to see if I can get them running on my SNES Classic.

[Anonymous No.7915267]

>>7915250
Is not fully supported yet

[Anonymous No.7915271]

>>7915058
Oh is that just the normal OpenLaura binary? I thought that the fixes were in the binary itself for some reason.

[Anonymous No.7915281]

>>7915267
Are Tomb Raider 2-5 buggy through OpenLara? I thought the OP image was through OpenLara, so I assumed they worked.
Unless you meant running Tomb Raider 2-5 on the SNES Classic.

[Anonymous No.7915295]

>>7915271
Yes the fixes are in the binary, that is the linux binary (not an exe)
>>7915281
OP video is from TR1, level 10 City of Khamoon

[Anonymous No.7915335]

>>7915281
Ladders and shit dont work in OpenLaura yet, so you can boot up TR2-4 levels but they wont play right. Other shit is broken too, like enemy AI.

[Anonymous No.7915419]

>>7915295
Oh. I had a braindead moment. Thought that was from TR4.
>>7915335
Ah. Thank you anyway.

[Anonymous No.7915528]

>TR thread
>only 2 pics

[Anonymous No.7915583]

[Anonymous No.7915734]

>>7914801
Here. I just hopped back in so I'm still at the beginning of Atlantis.

[Anonymous No.7915801]

Is tr1 fully playable with openlara without bugs?
Does it improve the PS1 versions as well? I saw its available in retroarch.
Does it only change the water or Lara's model, or is it new fan textures for the whole game?
Besides graphics, what does it change to the gameplay?
Why people here hate it?

[Anonymous No.7915823]

>>7915734
this exact room is in the gold game, wut

[Anonymous No.7915839]

>>7915801
>Is tr1 fully playable with openlara without bugs?
Yes, fully playable, some very minor things such as a bear humping your corpse after you die, but nothing serious
>Does it improve the PS1 versions as well? I saw its available in retroarch.
iirc yes you can use the psx levels with openlara, just add them to the folder in the proper way
>Does it only change the water or Lara's model, or is it new fan textures for the whole game?
No, i mean yes it changes the water but you can turn that effect (among other effects) off, so it's optional. Lara's model is not changed (but you can if you want to, with mods).
>Besides graphics, what does it change to the gameplay?
Nothing, except there was an autist tombraider anon on this board that claimed the jump height is slightly different from vanilla TR, i didn't double check it though
>Why people here hate it?
Tomb Raider autists/purists who will attack you if you play anything other than the 1996 original, but they are the most vocal ones, it could infact be only 1 person for all i know

[Anonymous No.7915842]

>>7915801
This one is fully playable, try it: mediafire.com/file/acqhisgx5k2shft

[Anonymous No.7915846]

>>7915823
What? First time through the Tomb Raider gams so not sure what you mean.

[Anonymous No.7915870]

>>7915846
the first TR games had a GOLD expansion release for PC (now, thanks by fans 1 and 2 are for ps1 too).
TR1 had the Unfinished Business expansion. Nowadays they would be called DLC's.

That cap of yours reminded me of the 2 atlanteanish lvls included in the GOLD game (Atlantean Stronghold and The hive). Be sure of playing this after finishing TR1). It rocks

[Anonymous No.7915879]

>>7915528
Exactly

[Anonymous No.7915890]

>>7915842
Yeah no I'm not downloading from some anon source

[Anonymous No.7915909]

>>7915870
Oh, cool. I'm pretty sure what I grabbed has the extra levels so I'll definitely scope them out. More of TR1 will be a treat.

[Anonymous No.7915973]

DClara

[Anonymous No.7916121]

>>7914623
You mean the dgvoodoocpl exes? AVs have the habit of tagging those as false positives. If you try using dege's originals the same thing happens.

As for the other fixes, they're all using the links shown in the PCGW page, some are tagged with one result in Virustotal but that's not much reason to panic. That's how it is for most unofficial fixes unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.7916825]

This isn't even remotely okay.

[Anonymous No.7916978]

>>7916825
That part tripped me out the first time I saw it. Thought it was coded to perfectly dodge all my shit and I mag dumped myself

As for solving the puzzle, I didn't even realize there was a puzzle and accidentally solved it

[Anonymous No.7916995]

>>7916978
Yeah, I was trying to dodge its fire while tackling the mutants and was baffled that my health wasn't melting.

[Anonymous No.7917519]

Finished up Tomb Raider 1. Overall really enjoyed it. Didn't really care for Atlantis that much. Had some good room navigation but the enemies and setting really didn't match what a name like Atlantis evokes. I really liked the Egyptian levels and Cistern. Going to take a slight break and then hop into the bonus levels.

[Anonymous No.7917621]

>>7917519
Thats what I like about TRs take on Atlantis, the reality doesn't line up with the myth. Like the things that were going on there were so incomprehensible to ancient man that the only way to describe them was widly inaccurate. Add on to that a game of telephone via oral history and its pretty believable. Plato probably would describe Atlantis the way he did even was like it was in TR; a city of magic and advanced medicine.

[Anonymous No.7917823]

>>7911491
The camera sucks with how it just jerks into place when it's not being obstructed by something.
>>7912518
>There was android/ios ports of TR1 + 2 but they're gone now for some reason.
They were casualties of a remaster collection that Realtech VR didn't have permission to work on.

[Anonymous No.7918328]

[Anonymous No.7918443]

>>7912295
Physical releases of the game have all sorts of issues and bugs running on anything newer then windows xp.

[Anonymous No.7918462]

>>7917519
Have you played Anniversary? IMHO it's a perfect game up until Atlantis and then it becomes 0/10.

[Anonymous No.7918476]

>>7918462
>0/10
maaann cmon, it's not that bad.
Another way of representing Atlantis would have been better than those creatures, yes, but the lvl design it's the same as the others.

[Anonymous No.7918498]

>>7918476
https://youtu.be/epR3v7ECsDQ?t=381
https://youtu.be/TmBxQiwyAzo?t=372

The first link is a puzzle I felt was impossible to accomplish. I had to glitch the game out to be able to get to the top of the room. I don't know if it was a CPU timing issue or whatever but it's certainly not possible on the PC version the way this guy does it.

The second is a mix of my autism and bad design. Notice how the player takes damage in the video? Part of my autism with the TR games forces me to play without taking any damage so that I can actually roleplay the game and not hand wave away the numerous gunshots, rat bites, and saw hits Lara receives. I do not know how you're supposed to beat this part without taking damage. If you're at low health and you don't have medpacks, I think the game is just hardlocked for you. I've never found a walkthrough that avoids taking damage getting into that pit.

[Anonymous No.7918628]

>>7918462
I liked anniversary but that vertical segment in Atlantis with timed grappling hook jumps is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.7919109]

>>7918498
>Part of my autism with the TR games forces me to play without taking any damage so that I can actually roleplay the game and not hand wave away the numerous gunshots, rat bites, and saw hits Lara receives.
I understand this roleplaying for games like Resident Evil - since being bitten would mean the characters would be infected and unless they had natural immunity they would be dead - but it honestly does not fit a game like Tomb Raider TBQH. You just know Lara had to tank some damage at some point perhaps just not against the large and dangerous creatures (as any hit would almost be fatal).

>If you're at low health and you don't have medpacks, I think the game is just hardlocked for you. I've never found a walkthrough that avoids taking damage getting into that pit.
While I'm fairly certain a No Damage run is possible in Tomb Raider 1 without any glitches, I don't think the same is possible for Unfinished Business or the sequels. I don't like that design for the reasons you mentioned (there's some cool about figuring out a strat for a seemingly impossble segment) but I guess it's just inevitable unless devs consider that option when they create the game.

[Anonymous No.7920801]

post a better lara. I'll wait
protip: you can't

[Anonymous No.7920856]

is the ps2 port of anniversary any good?

[Anonymous No.7921215]

>>7920801

[Anonymous No.7921650]

The first level from Tomb Raider 2 that felt like a return to the form. So far I haven't liked Tomb Raider 2 because it's less focused on exploration and more on combat (and a bad one at that - the approach to human enemies is always the same just changes if you're fighting meele or firearm enemies) so I really liked how huge this level is and how ambitious it feels to tackle it. It was very clever that it offered you the option to move through the level with two different design choices even though one is less obvious unless you're paying attention to your surroundings. I hope Tibet and China feel more like this and less like Venice and the Rig/Maria Dona.

On a side-note, I also have a shit-ton of ammo (800 magnum rounds, 1500 sub-machine rounds, 60 shotgun shells, 400 M16 clips and 42 GL rounds) so I'm wondering if I should stop conserving my ammo since I should be half-way through the game.

[Anonymous No.7921840]

>>7911719
some anon made 1-6 all just werk on win10; check the archives unless some anon has it handy to upload.

[. No.7921845]

>>7911491
was playing last revelation on pc, but got stuck... i used to beat this game all the time as a preteen with a boner... is the ps1 version different than the pc version???

[. No.7921854]

>>7921840
>>7911719
i think this is it


>My other project, Win98 games made to run on Win10:

https://mega.nz/folder/3t8nzSIS#947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

There's also the other anon who used to post his early DOS titles PCem pack, but i read somewhere he can't work on it for the time being (he used some kind of temporary host-links so i don't know where to download as of now). As for my dospack above, i also stopped working on it (i consider it complete, any additional games can be added manually).

Always sad to see DOS games don't get the same love here on /vr as the japanese rpg games etc do. Being someone who actually lived through the DOS era, this is strange to me because back then everybody in the west was playing the hot DOS games like Doom and Quake, Tomb Raider and C&C etc.

[. No.7921858]

>>7921854
only has 1,2 and 4

[Anonymous No.7921867]

>>7921845
Slightly, depending on revision.

[. No.7921872]

>>7921867
that could explain it.

[Anonymous No.7921909]

>>7921840
>>7921854
nvm, found it my archives
fuck you hiro & your damn spam filter

[Anonymous No.7922480]

Does anyone know where I can find the track of pic related? Really pumping sound from Eidos.

[Anonymous No.7922532]

>>7921909
Are those the base games or are they prepatched?

[Anonymous No.7922673]

>>7911491
What version of Tomb Raider is this? It looks so clean. Maybe a glidewrapper?

[Anonymous No.7922830]

>>7921650
Can you clarify the "2 different design choices" to approaching the level?

[Anonymous No.7922876]

>>7922673
OpenLara

[Anonymous No.7923063]

>>7911719
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OqvCPbFAHN-7yt4k2TEdeDisQtbnfr-w/view?usp=sharing

Just add the folder to exceptions if your AVs tries to delete something, only classics though
pass is 1234

[Anonymous No.7923456]

>>7922673
If you want to try it (OpenLara), the TR1 archive from this link >>7921854 is using it. If you want it to look vanilla, go into the options and turn everything to low. OpenTomb used to be a very promising (decompile) project too, made by TeslaRus, but it has been abandoned. However some of the code was used in the OpenLara project. For TR2 the best way nowadays is TR2Main, don't bother messing with Peixoto's fix anymore

[Anonymous No.7923730]

>>7922830
this. Thanks in advance.
>>7922480
the track of a pic of a demo in a demo disk of ps1?? what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.7924506]

>>7922830
>>7923730
>Can you clarify the "2 different design choices" to approaching the level?

It's on the pic. Top pictures show how the developers wanted to progress through the level. Go from the top of the rusty wreckage into the caverns and into the roof. The bottom left picture shows a shortcut that I'm sure they knew keen and experienced players would use - backflip into the air shaft then jump slightly to the left so Lara grabs the edge.

>>7923730
>the track of a pic of a demo in a demo disk of ps1?? what do you mean?
Nevermind. I found it played on the next level when you grab the snowmobile. It's called Lara Plays In The Snow. I could play the entire game just listening to this track. I hope it comes back later in the game.

[Anonymous No.7924510]

>>7922830
>>7923730
>Can you clarify the "2 different design choices" to approaching the level?

It's on the pic. Top pictures show how the developers wanted to progress through the level. Go from the top of the rusty wreckage into the caverns and into the roof. The bottom left picture shows a shortcut that I'm sure they knew keen and experienced players would use - backflip into the air shaft then jump slightly to the left so Lara grabs the edge.

>>7923730
>the track of a pic of a demo in a demo disk of ps1?? what do you mean?
Nevermind. I found it played on the next level when you grab the snowmobile. It's called Lara Plays In The Snow. I could play the entire game just listening to this track. I hope it comes back later in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALXgyclMge4

[Anonymous No.7924558]

Just finished playing through Barkhang Monastery. Core Design really stepped up their game with this level. If The Deck was a return to form, Barkhang Monastery is really showing Tomb Raider 2 can head-to-head against the best levels of Tomb Raider 1. Amazing from the beginning to the end.

I really liked how they put the Jade Dragon after that insane death trap hoping players would catch on the time the rolling blade takes go back and forth. Then that throwback to the very first Egypt level where you need to check the back of the head of the sphinx where you find the key - in Barkhang Monastery you get the Golden Dragon. A really inspired level and never feels boring even when you get lost.

The monks helping you fight the thugs is a very nice addition - it's just a shame you can't lock on the thugs and end of risking firing off against allies. Only thing that really pissed me off about Barkhang Monastery was solving the box puzzle (that thing was really crazy to put together because you just know the top box can be moved but placing the bottom boxes seems an impossible tas until you realize you can drag the box using the space between the golden pots) and being rewarded fucking harpoons. Really Core?

I have a feeling the game might have peaked here (like Tomb Raider 1 did for me in Egypt) but even if I'm right, I hope the remaining levels are as engaging and interesting as this one.

[Anonymous No.7924637]

>>7911491
>openlara
unplayable trash

[Anonymous No.7924658]

>>7911491
Laura has been my waifu for so long that it almost feels wrong to think about other w*men

[Anonymous No.7924757]

>>7924658
>Laura

[Anonymous No.7924821]

>>7922876
>>7923456
Thanks, I will give it a shot.

[Anonymous No.7925332]

This freaking jump.

[Anonymous No.7925391]

>>7925332
I actually skipped this level the very first time because I kept dying when I was trying to lower myself into the pyramid (wasn't at full health) and decided to try something different. Playing Unfinished Business on the PSX might have helped a bit because in the PC version it's crystal clear the middle section where you can jump in and skip the whole thing is shut off.

The last part of that level is pure insanity. Although the spike traps and crawler Atlantean fights at the top before you reach the final area are entirely optional, they are still some of the hardest segments to do in the game.

Phil Campbell really did a phenomenal job with Unfinished Business. I can't wait to play after I'm done with Tomb Raider 2.

[Anonymous No.7925510]

>>7925391
*to play Golden Mask (Tomb Raider 2)

[Anonymous No.7925740]

>>7925391
Yeah, I wasn't a huge fan of Atlantis in the base game but this level was just good fun. Still don't really enjoy the Atlantean mutants as enemies but you're damn right I was picking fights with them after I got the magnums and realized how much ammo I had. Overall I enjoy the Egyptian levels more but those levels have some awful enemy spawns that take me out of the experience.
I've now moved onto the last level in Unfinished Business and while I've enjoyed my time with it, I am ready to continue the series.

[Anonymous No.7925934]

>>7924510
>that track
fuck yeah moment
>>7924558
this guy knows

[Anonymous No.7925990]

Just completed Unfinished Business. Some of the best level design for the first game. Great stuff.

[Anonymous No.7927127]

[Anonymous No.7927130]

>>7925740
I hope The Hive was a great experience to you. It's the level that will drive you insane (even moreso if you're playing Unfinished Business on PSX and restricting yourself to save crystals) but it really feels accomplished in making this the last level of Tomb Raider 1 with how hard and difficult it is to survive through that madness. I wasn't a big fan of it at first but quickly rose through the ranks as I replayed it more and more of it and came to appreciate the effort they poured into it.

[Anonymous No.7927196]

Catacombs of Talion was a very solid level. I'd say the pathing and design is superior to pretty much most levels on Tomb Raider 2 but it still feels a bit sub-par compared to worlds you're traveling in Tomb Raider 1 at this point. I think it balances out with combat - the fights are just amazing and enemy placement is pretty well thought up (never feels easy but it's always fair). I'd just like to mention that this level has, bar none, the best moment of the Tomb Raider series so far to me - that dark place you enter and hear a ton of Yeti's roaring, completely blind to your surroundings. I was lucky enough to fight them all at the same time as sometimes 2 Yetis can get stuck and that really takes away a lot of tension from that fight. That thing looked like something straight of a horror movie. Even even horror games struggle to create scenes just as fearful and atmospheric as that one.

[Anonymous No.7927238]

I'll refrain from commenting on Ice Palace because I only have terrible things to say about it.

Temple of Xi was.. a mixed bag. I felt like this level had a lot of potential but the devs never give you time to breathe and enjoy the environment. It's just trap after trap after trap and it gets a little bit tiresome. Some of the traps are well thought up but others are just way too cheap and it feels like the devs saying "Gotcha!". Because of this, the level design ends up reinforcing save points pretty much after you finish any section, never making the stakes feel high since you'll just reload and lose like 2 minutes of progress.

That stupid springboard gimmick returns, particularly to find the Jade Dragon, but it's generally less annoying than in the previous level. Combat is also pretty poor with the devs resorting to enemies ambusing you to make them feel a threat. The spider nest was the highlight of the level (and smartly designed to use your Flares to light up your surroundings for an entire area) but not good enough by itself for me to consider Temple of Xi a great level. On a final note, I thought it was particularly disgusting to show you the Golden Dragon near the end, making you realize the only time you could obtain it was in beginning - sure, now you now its location but what's the point if when you finish the game you have infinite ammo?

Anyway, next level started off like Lara having taken too much LSD or something like that. I can't quite make anything out of it for far because I've only played a minute or so but unfortunately I feel like it's just going downwards from here. Hopefully I'll be wrong.

[Anonymous No.7927242]

And if you guys feel I'm just shitting the thread with my vlogs let me know.

I'm just sharing my thoughts on each level as I play because I figure you guys might have something else to add on to or perhaps give a different perspective on why you liked/hated a particular part of the game. Kind of a way to fire up discussion on level design and gameplay and that short of thing. But if it's a little obnoxious I'll just stop.

[Anonymous No.7927318]

>>7927242
I appreciate your blog anon that's what the thread is for. I'm not commenting because I haven't started 2 yet but you're actually making me want to start it now.

[Anonymous No.7928359]

[Anonymous No.7928727]

PC sisters... wtf? Why is the save/load symbol a PSX memory card? I thought PC was the definitive version?

[Anonymous No.7928738]

>>7928727
why does lara look so phat? not using widescreen fix?

[Anonymous No.7928780]

>>7927130
It was actually one of my favorites because it truly felt like it embodied the idea of Lara alone using her (the players) wits to navigate dangerous environments. More than any other part of the first game it felt specifically designed to prevent intruders and overcoming the traps and level design felt immensely rewarding.
The Hive put every move you learned through the first game to the test and by doing so increased the sense of accomplishment felt when beating it.

[Anonymous No.7928839]

>>7920856
It’s been a long time, but I’d say it’s pretty decent. It’s not particularly great, being on aged hardware, and it’s not particularly bad either. The PC version in particular, or PS3/360 versions, which do have some issues but are mostly alright, are preferable, I’d say.

[Anonymous No.7929789]

Hey anons, thoughts on pic related? I found it in storage, if it's a somewhat faithful and more importantly good adaption of the first game, I'll play it.

[Anonymous No.7929887]

>>7929789
Play the original first. Anniversary "streamlined" (cut) a lot of areas and made a lot of changes, as well as introducing a bunch of modern gameplay mechanics (like grappling hooks and wallrunning) to the game. It's not a terrible game, but it's not as good as the original.

[Anonymous No.7930109]

>>7929789
Peru and Greece levels are great. Egypt is too acrobatics heavy but still solid. Atlantis is completely fucked in Anniversary.

[Anonymous No.7930438]

Lara's LSD trip was, without a doubt, one of the most surprising adventures of Tomb Raider so far. I honestly did not expect such a great level with such a bizarre setup. Floating Islands tied with Barkhang Monastery for my favorite level of Tomb Raider 2.

The platforming and puzzle solving really pushed limits with developers enganging the player in interesting ways to advance through such an otherly design - you never feel like there might just be one right way to get through a section of the level and the game rewards that short of experimentation if executed right. Enemies are extraordinaly dangerous and difficult to deal in direct combat (a throwback to the crawling atlanteans, I assume) but smartly designed to allow you to get through most encounters unscratched if like in Tomb Raider 1 you use the environment to your advantage.

I also thought that it was a great touch that the devs allowed you to get all secrets at any stage of the level and the reward is the necessary tools to fight on the last boss of the game in the next level. All of the locations of the secrets were so well picked, with some you just knowing it's got to be something there even if you can't see it yet because it's such a natural choice for it. Everything about this level just flows perfectly from the beginning to the end.

On a side note, I pumped up "Lara Plays In The Snow" OST in the background and ran through this level a second time just using the pistols and saving only 6 times to mirror TR1 save system (though I should have reduced it to 5) to see how Floating Islands stacked up against the Atlantis levels from Tomb Raider 1. Total time was clocked at 1:13:51 (about the same for Atlantis - but for a level significantly smaller) and total health packs used was 6.5 (but I only fought the Xian Warriors head-on once!). Truly a beast of a level.

Oh and I got 34 kills in Floating Island. No idea how that's possible, Stella's website lists the maximum as 26.

[Anonymous No.7930619]

>>7929789
It's good, but different.

[Anonymous No.7930678]

>>7927238
i would say Temple of Xian is more of a death trap because it acts like an ominous firewall against bounty hunters, robbers or anyone interested in the dagger.

Perhaps, "Temple" isn't the most appropriate name for a place like this, if we consider that a temple would be a small-medium size structure where you give your offerings or pray. That's why at the beginning you fell in that false pit.
>>7930438
i would like to ask all anons here, what's going on with this level? After finishing the previous lvl you end here with no explanation. Why is it the transition to the boss fight?
The dagger is some mystic tier shit that will transform you in a giant ass dragon, but how does it relate to this lvl?
You also finish the game with no knowledge of where the dagger came (its origins)

[Anonymous No.7930798]

>>7930438
I absolutely hated Tomb Raider 2, but I appreciate these writeups.

[Anonymous No.7930815]

>>7929887
>>7930109
>>7930619
I'm going to start it today. If it's not my thing I'll back out and play the first on PSP.
>>7930678
Your write ups are comfy and take me back to first impressions threads on forums. Please continue!

[Anonymous No.7930873]

>>7929789
Love this game. It's a relic of that brief era in time when Prince of Persia was king, a glimpse of what could have been had 3D action-platformers not gone the way of Assassin's Creed and Uncharted.

[Anonymous No.7931518]

>>7930678
>Perhaps, "Temple" isn't the most appropriate name for a place like this, if we consider that a temple would be a small-medium size structure where you give your offerings or pray. That's why at the beginning you fell in that false pit.
I understood the concept of Temple of Xian, it just felt like a very repetitive level with all the traps that is constantly throwing at you and how unfair it feels at some points. I think Floating Islands was a better balance of all things that should exist in a Tomb Raider level, particularly so close to the end. Temple of Xian is just the death trap segment of The Great Pyramid on steroids with nothing else in its favor, IMO. I can see why people might have loved it but it just wasn't my thing.

>You also finish the game with no knowledge of where the dagger came (its origins)
I just assumed that much like the Scions and Atlantean origins seemed to be deep-rotted in otherly creatures who visited Earth at some point, the dagger was meant to mirror somthing like that too. Some artifact left by aliens that allowed its owner to transfigure our reality.

>>7930798
Glad to hear that anon. I wasn't a big fan of Tomb Raider 2 as a whole either but I did enjoy some levels. I can definitely see why it was not a bigger success than Tomb Raider 1 though (as evidenced by sales) - despite the marketing and comercials at the time seemingly giving off the idea that had surpassed the first game. Core Design really missed the mark in overall game structure with Tomb Raider 2 and focused on the wrong things. But I guess they wanted to try new things and I can't blame them for trying. Some levels were still a great experience.

[Anonymous No.7931582]

And on the to the last two levels..

I guess I'll just put those two together because I was honestly a bit underwhelmed at the lack of content they put in for those two levels. For comparison, in The Great Pyramid you start by fighting one boss, get through the final death trap as you attempt to escape the island, as you reach your end-point you defeat the final boss and then you have one last challenge rooted in the things we love about Tomb Raider (platforming) before the game is over.

When you consider that, Dragon's Lair and Home Sweet Home are just lazy and uninspired design. The last boss is actually an interesting battle since you have so many options available to you (either fight head-on and dodge its attacks, hide in your surroundings to evade its fire or just straight in dive to catch it off guard for a few seconds in another part of the map - I went for the obvious and easy one after getting slaughtered a couple of times), which I really liked but that was pretty much the extend of it. Then the next level (or the Epilogue) is just.. so out of place and feels so weird because you never quite know where to go or what to do and you're just basically killing enemies as they come. It tries to sum up what I feel was the weakest point of Tomb Raider 2 to me and it's just so senseless since you never feel like there's something you should do to your advantage, you just stand there and defend your ground. I went around exploring the house and the garden hoping something would trigger or change the odds in my favor.. but nothing really happened and the enemies just kept coming. Felt nothing was really accomplished at the end of it - even less so when fighting enemies that just run on two sets of strategy (depending if they are wielding meele or firearms).

I should start Golden Mask today or tomorrow and I'll give my thoughts on those two. Really excited to see what Phil did with this expansion, hopefully will be as good as Unfinished Business.

[Anonymous No.7932023]

>>7931518
The Core team in charge of the TR2 no longer had the creative genius within their ranks and they had to cope as best they could. I will not deny that like TR1 there is no other game, because each TR is unique in its own way.

Experimenting with the character of Lara and seeing how they can take advantage of the title of being a "tomb raider", is something that is difficult not only to think and write on paper, but to program and, above all, to make it work. Thanks to having taken Lara to all possible continents and in all kinds of unimaginable scenarios, it becomes easy for us to criticize and decide where Lara should be or not. If all the TRs had been the same, the audience would have been bored. Everything is based on innovation and creativity.

About the Temple of Xian, I still have the same opinion. It is the last terrestrial bastion to prevent anyone from getting the dagger. The protective monks knew the disaster it could cause, so they decided to put a diabolical gymkhana on the unfortunate man who happened to get it. I think the devs had this idea in mind when making the level. Also, isn't it better to make it a bit fun at the end? It even sounds like a phrase that Lara would say ...

To assume the origin of the artifact as something "extraterrestrial" that easily is to de-emphasize it, IMO. The Atlanteans and the Scion in TR1 have, as you have said, a proven explanation. Could the Dagger of Xian be owned by an ancient Chinese god of war? Or a malevolent soul reaper demon? How did the Chinese emperor get hold of that? I think all these questions could have been answered in-game instead of all that stupid trip through Venice or Deep Sea.

[Anonymous No.7932035]

>>7931582
"Dragon's Lair" and "Home Sweet Home" I want to think that they were made in a hurry and running under pressure from Eidos to meet the release date. I'm sure that if they had more time, they would have developed it better (like what you say, something beyond a giant room to kill a mega dragon). However, the last level could be "saved" a bit.
After Bartoli's death, it doesn't make much sense that the followers of his sect want to kill Lara and get the dagger. I mean, their leader is dead, what are you going to get? Surely they would have killed each other to see who put the dagger in their chest first ...
Taking that out of the way, Lara arrives at her house FUCKING SICK TO DEATH of everything and after relaxing a bit, the bastards that she considered extinct are AGAIN GETTING ON HER TITS. It's the last level, you are pissed off Satan level and you have ammo to spare. Time to vent, motherfucker. Obviously, the level has its difficulty, but it is what it is. This idea of "unbridled and wild insanity" is part of the femme fatale-bad girl identity that Lara plays whenever she can.

Personally, among all the GOLDs, the first one is the only one that I liked (although I would have to honestly replay the others). Post your impressions.

P.S.: Sorry if my english is bad, trying to practice everyday

[Anonymous No.7932050]

>>7911491
Which Lara should I play if Time to Kill is my favorite Duke Nukem?

[Anonymous No.7932054]

>>7932050
tombe raider chronicles

[Anonymous No.7932060]

>>7924658
I know, I feel the same way about someone else...

[Anonymous No.7932114]

Cleopatra??!

[Anonymous No.7932118]

Anyone know how to get the gold expansions running on Ubuntu? Im a retard and cant get them to work.

[Anonymous No.7932191]

>>7929789
Anyone know to to unlock the nude costume?

[Anonymous No.7932212]

>only game I the series I played is the first one
>afraid to try the others because of all the negative comments they get, I don't want my love for the first one to be sullied

[Anonymous No.7932223]

>>7932212
just play them, then come here and write your thoughts. It's what we do here. The rest in the series is good averall and what is ok tier for me can be shit tier for you.

Don't fall for the common opinion meme. Have yours.

[Anonymous No.7932248]

>>7932191
Damn i wasnt gonna jerk off today

[Anonymous No.7932262]

>>7932191
That picture is ripped out of my imagination. What is it about that Y2K art style that's so satisfying?

[Anonymous No.7932273]

>>7932262
umm, anon that one is not from the 2000's, it's fan made. Weirdly enough there are no official lara croft renders of her at the beach, there are many of her in a bikini, and even one in the sands of egypt but not a single one at the beach.

[Anonymous No.7932281]

I like the classic games and admittedly I have only played 1 and part of 2, but the combat is a pet peeve of mine. I've never been a fan of combat where you have little to no options when it comes to not taking damage and the game turns into spamming medkits. Non-human enemies generally aren't a huge issue, but it definitely becomes super noticeable when, like in TR2, human enemies start becoming the norm.
Still prefer the classics over the new ones overall, though.

[Anonymous No.7932306]

>>7932273
Didn't say it was anon. Wish we got one official beach render

[Anonymous No.7932468]

>>7927238
I'll say this... I've heard that the Temple of Xian was built by the guy that became the main level builder for Tomb Raider 3...

[Anonymous No.7932938]

>>7932035
Your English is fine.

Home Sweet Home can be completed fairly easy once you know where everyone is going to be and get a good path going, but when you play it for the first time and you start getting shot to shit in complete darkness it can be pretty hectic.

I would think that Lara would have invested in some exterior floodlights or something.

[Anonymous No.7933002]

>>7932273
Very peculiar.

[Anonymous No.7933004]

>>7933002
>cross necklace
cringe

[Anonymous No.7933017]

Does this count as a beach?

[Anonymous No.7933029]

>>7932938
> Home Sweet Home can be completed fairly easy once you know where everyone is going to be and get a good path going, but when you play it for the first time and you start getting shot to shit in complete darkness it can be pretty hectic.
well, i think this happend pretty much with a lot of levels. The first time is the really tough one.

> I would think that Lara would have invested in some exterior floodlights or something.
kek. She put them in the film.

>>7933004
came to say this. She's sexy af but i don't understand what's the point of wearing a pedo symbol
>>7933017
jesus, Lara...

[Anonymous No.7933076]

THE ETERNAL ZOOMER

[Anonymous No.7933090]

Lara Cruz, later Lara Croft.

[Anonymous No.7933394]

/lit/ dropping in to tell you that pic related is actually a fun read with Lovecraftian elements. Would recommend to fans of Lara.

[Anonymous No.7933405]

>>7930438
This was the best part of TR2, all of the 'normal' locations and human enemies really was a letdown from TR1 IMO. The China theme was pretty cool though, when we got to explore the areas!
Thanks for sharing the screenshot compilation, do you have anymore?

[Anonymous No.7933419]

>>7933076
not a zoomer but I will never not be filtered by the controls

[Anonymous No.7933531]

>>7933394
read the 2 first parts of the trilogy. They were good

[Anonymous No.7933541]

>>7933419
maybe with a controller is a different story, but on PC there's absolutely nothing wrong with the controls, is actually really fun once you master them.

[Anonymous No.7934129]

Is OpenLara's TR1 implementation complete? I mean the main game works fine, but there's not a single custom .PHD level in which I haven't met some game stopping bug. Sometimes it's boulder not moving where it should, or Lara refusing to climb along the ledge.

[Anonymous No.7934190]

>>7934129
Only the base TR1 game is supported, custom levels and TR2/3/4 levels have (for now) limited support. I also don't really understand why custom PHD (TR1 format) levels won't work properly, i mean technically it's just a different map-layout but with the same type of triggers/events and AI logic as the base game, but then again i'm no expert...

[Anonymous No.7934268]

Personally I love the Home Sweet Home level.
I wish I could think of more examples when games have sections set in previously safe training areas, but Half Life and TR2 are the only ones that come to mind.

[Anonymous No.7934329]

>>7933076
>lack of objectives
It's literally "find the exit" holy shit

[Anonymous No.7934808]

anyone know how to get psx open lara working on retroaorch?

[Anonymous No.7934818]

>>7933076
to be fair, the controls are an absolute abomination for a modern day gamer and most people going into tomb raider games thinking that there's a relic to find or something when really you're just looking for the door to get out LOL

[Anonymous No.7934832]

>>7934818
No matter what you may think you're supposed to do, once you've searched around enough you'll eventually find the door that says level clear once you enter it. The first level in TR1 is very short.

[Anonymous No.7935543]

>>7934268
Hitman 2 (final level)

[Anonymous No.7935596]

>>7911491
Steady. Just finished RX-Tech Mine. Need a break now, because as much as I love it and the Lost City of Tinnos, going through both of them is slog

[Anonymous No.7935597]

>>7912321
There is GOG release
There is Cenega release.
There is even the shitty Steam release.
It's like you people are deliberately inept or something, to the point of acting like retards

[Anonymous No.7935598]

>>7934818
I've started with this series in 2013, after playing the modern reboot. Somehow I've managed to play the old ones without much issue, especially since learning the controls takes less than five minutes and the whole game is build around the blocks and way how you move over them.

[Anonymous No.7935628]

It's been a while, but I'm going for my vacations, so grab some:

The Aragorn-posting Polish dump of Core-era TRs is back once again, GOLDs and top patches as always included.

>TR1 + GOLD (Unfinished Business)
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/Z8Dwf6FP/file.html

>TR2 + GOLD (The Golden Mask)
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/hufI66kI/file.html

>TR3
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/VueEXlhs/file.html

>TR3 GOLD (The Lost Artifact)
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/lK6vWP24/file.html

>TR: The Last Revelation (TR4)
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/Ez3DDXsg/file.html
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/s0xbaNgG/file.html
You need both, since zippyshare had 500 MB limit and the full installer weights 577 MB

>TR: Chronicles (TR5)
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/IcOpO8vw/file.html

>TR: Angel of Darkness (TR6)
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/qwqCeJTA/file.html
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/lGxteFln/file.html
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/boJzZxiO/file.html
https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/QXV9n3KR/file.html
You need all four, for the same reason

I can't spare time to post it on anonfiles right now, so some kind soul can do that for me

[Anonymous No.7935812]

>>7935628
blessed. Wait for the zippyshare hater fag.

[Anonymous No.7935948]

>>7935597
Some people prefer using physical media anon.

[Anonymous No.7936094]

Just started playing Anniversary, it's great anons. The PS2 is a more than adequate port.

[Anonymous No.7936121]

>>7936094
good. I played the PS3 HD version some months ago. Only the graphics and sound worth. The secrets system was broken and didn't work well (this was the same on TRL finished the last week).

I'm thinking of buying the original SONY platforms for each game and fuck off the remaster.

[Anonymous No.7936249]

>>7935812
Don't care, I'm already on my way to my vacations

[Anonymous No.7936253]

>>7935948
Nta, but Cenega release is very much physical.
Also: collectors are some of the biggest idiots, more focused on some idiotic "authentic feeling" than actually playing the fucking game. As such, all they deserve is being laughed at

[Anonymous No.7937339]

>>7936253
Sure. Just don't get angry when the servers you download the game from go down, a company decides to restrict or remove access to the game to you, or the unthinkable happens and the internet gets cut off. Hell, the publisher might decide to alter or censor the digital copy if they so desire.
Us physical chads will be the ones laughing while we have complete unrestricted access to the game that we can play whenever we want in it's original form.

[Anonymous No.7938074]

>>7937339
Square Enix are never going to go back to the Core games, let alone release physical PC copies if they ever did.

[Anonymous No.7938421]

>>7937339
>> He doesn't backup his pirated games onto physical media.
ngmi

[Anonymous No.7939832]

I'm getting a lot of glitchy graphics issues while emulating PS1 TR2 even with PGXP enabled, it's so bad that it's ruining the game for me. Anyone else managed to emulate it cleanly, if so which emulator and settings?

Is there a convenient way to get the PC version running with controller support?

[Anonymous No.7939879]

>>7935628
You're back <3 thanks fren and have a good trip

[Anonymous No.7939915]

Tried getting emulated TR2 to run in 21:9 with the Duckstation widescreen hack but it's too glitchy, whereas it worked perfectly with TR3. It's a shame because it makes the game more beautiful and "large scale adventure" than in 4:3 or 16:9. Anyone managed to get it working cleanly?

What aspect ratio do you guys prefer?

[Anonymous No.7939947]

>>7932023
I don't blame them for the design choices of Tomb Raider 2. I understand creativity can only stretch so far and while I think they tried to focus on the weakest points of Tomb Raider 1, the truth it those things did get better in Tomb Raider 2. I suspect Tomb Raider 3 will follow the same trend but that also means it's more likely to deviate further from Tomb Raider 1.

Regarding the storyline I think they intentionally left it wide open precisely because they had provided an explanation in the previous game so they knew the players had something to work with to fill the blanks. I honestly prefer it that way - sometimes they just dig deeper and we end up disappointed with the shitty explanation. But I can see why someone would see it as a bad thing given the exposition given in Tomb Raider 1 (and how they are breaking away from it in the sequel).

>>7932035
I don't understand why they did break them into two levels though. Might as well as put the last boss in Floating Islands and focus a bit more on making Home Sweet Home something more than just all clear level? The concept could be amazing with some ingenious level design, TBQH.

I will post my impressions soon but I think they are likely diverge from yours anon.

And your english is great anon. I'm not a native speaker myself and understood you perfectly.

>>7932212
Play them. Don't be afraid of exploring the series. I was ready to skip to The Last Revelation but I'm glad I went this route instead. I will stop there though. I refuse to see Core Design's downfall.

>>7932468
Don't scare me.

>>7933405
Glad you liked it. I have more screenshots but they are mostly repetitions of these. I can upload them if you'd like though anon.

Alright guys, I'll post my impressions on Golden Mask now. I did not say anything sooner because I did not want to break my flow as I did not have a lot of time available. Here we go.

[Anonymous No.7939982]

Starting off with Cold War, there's not much I can say about this level. There's nothing particularly striking or unique to it, I think it's just trying to pick on Tomb Raider 2 level design structure and work with it. It's a level that is just there and serves as the introduction to the new adventure. Two things I was particularly happy though. I like that they cut the bullshit of getting your items mostly from enemies and put the focus back on exploring the area to get your resources. I also think it was a great touch to place the Uzis in such a peculiar location, winking back to players who remember well Return to Egipt.

Fool's Gold was the most combat-oriented level from all of Tomb Raider so far. I can understand why people might have hated this level, I cannot blame them because it's everything that players who enjoy exploration and platforming are most likely to reject, but I have to respect the devs for really pushing this idea forward and actually creating a level that feels tough and challenges many of the approaches we would usually use against human enemies. I think they really hit the mark here but unfortunately replaying the level also exposes why its difficulty is so strongly felt in the first run - most of the dangerous situations in Fool's Gold depend entirely on ambushes and desorientation of the player and when you're prepared for that a second time it's a lot easier to manage those sneak attacks and crowd control your enemies. I was very surprised to find that Fool's Gold clocked 1:29:02 and total health packs used was only 6.0 when running it with pistols only. It felt the hardest level of the expansion.

[Anonymous No.7940047]

Furnace of the Gods was, for me, the best level of the main games in Golden Mask. It really felt inspired by Indiana Jones movies (at least the way I remember it as a kid) and it's the most beautiful designed sporting the best asthetics. There's nothing negative that comes to mind except perhaps them going a bit crazy with the locations of every secret.

Now Kingdom.. is straight up bullshit. We can discuss the reason why we dislike one level or another but I don't think its ever consensual among everyone which one is worse because sometimes it's just a matter of taste - it's all about personal preference and what you're looking for in Tomb Raider. But this has so many flaws I cannot see how it's not objectively considered bad. Traps placed and designed to lure the player into its death, combat locations filled with empty holes for the player to jump into its death while trying to find safe spots, obnoxious stage progression that one is very unlikely to find about unless he is REALLY looking for or just so happens to find by mistake before dying.. and the worst offender of them all is the last location of the secret - I cannot stress out how fucking shitty that choice was considering that it was vital to unblock Nightmare in Vegas and there are zero clues about it. I get that probably thought they had a big brain moment and upped up the stakes to make this really difficult to find but I highly doubt anyone found this legitimately without a guide or the aid of some level editor since the secret is layered in a bunch of bullshit which you might scratch but still not be enough to reach the end of it. The last boss fight is also stupidly designed - yeah we get an alternate way to defeat the boss and that's kind cool but what's the point if you can just shoot it on sight and nearly kill it with the M16 before it reaches you (you get at least 2 clips before fighting the boss) or just drop down and pick a position to shoot it off safely?

[Anonymous No.7940167]

>>7939947
>Don't scare me.
I'll clarify, most of TR and TRII's levels were built by Neal Boyd and Heather Gibson. Only one level from each game was built by someone else. Sanctuary of the Scion was built by Toby Gard and Temple of Xian was built by Richard Morton. Richard Morton continued to design levels for the rest of the Core games, while the others left after 2 AFAIK. I can post a list of who built what if you're interested.

[Anonymous No.7940241]

>>7940167
>I can post a list of who built what if you're interested.
Not the same anon but I'm interested as well; were each level really developed by single devs? Especially as the team got bigger for the sequels, I'd imagine it became more collaborative?

Well I'm the opposite of that anon, I played TR3 first and now going through TR2, so my opinion is a bit tainted.
Just completed the intro, Venice and Bertoli's Hideout and while the atmosphere is fine, there's way too much gunfight combat, the worst and most dated aspect of the games imo, and the enemy placement is especially bullshit with enemies that start firing while Lara is still in the water etc.

Meanwhile the level design is not particularly inspired. It's quite straightforward and predictable. I think it's a weak intro, and like I'm playing an action game rather than an adventure. By comparison, India's in TR3 is tighter yet much more sprawling, full of little secrets and intriguing design details that draw you in, less linear, much more focused on exploration/platforming/traps/puzzles etc.

What are your issues with TR3's level design? I know some anons don't like that it's less linear, because that also makes it more backtracky, and there's a blatant quality difference between the nature levels vs the urban levels; but I have to say I enjoyed even London and Area 51 more than Venice so far. I'm hoping this is just a weak start and it gets more inspired/with less combat afterwards.

[Anonymous No.7940291]

>>7940241
I don't have a list for the later games, just for the first 2:
TR:
Manor - Heather
Caves - Heather
City of Vilacabamba - Heather
Lost Valley - Neal
St Francis Folly - Heather
Colosseum - Neal
Palace Midas - Neal
The Cistern - Heather
Tomb of Tihocan - Heather
City of Khamoon - Heather
Sanctuary of the Scion - Toby
Natla’s Mines - Neal
Atlantis - Neal
The Great Pyramid - Neal

TRII:
Manor - Heather
The Great Wall - Neal
Venice - Heather
Bartoli’s Hideout - Heather
Opera house - Heather
Offshore Rig - Neal
Diving area - Neal
40 Fathoms - Neal
Wreck of the Maria Doria - Neal
Living Quarters - Neal
The Deck - Neal
Tibetan Foothills - Neal
Barkhang Monastery - Heather
Catacombs - Heather
Ice Palace - Heather
Temple of Xian - Richard Morton
Floating Islands - Heather
The Dragons Lair - Heather

The source of these lists are an interview with Heather herself.

[Anonymous No.7940298]

>>7939915
i see this a lot of times. Why don't you play it on real hardware? It isn't so expensive to buy a second-third hand ps1 and TR2. The perfect definition of plug and play. About the scale, maybe it's that i don't know a lot or if basically i don't give a damn but for me it's the auto mode of my CRT (it takes all the screen, rather than 4:3 or 16:9)
>>7940291
cool bro. Can you link the interview with Heather?

[Anonymous No.7940304]

>>7940291
here's an interview with Gav and Mortons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSiLDA7TIlQ

[Anonymous No.7940352]

>>7940298
The interview is on the Tomb of Ash tumblr, in case you don't particularly care for that individual, or tumblr for that matter.

https://tomb-of-ash.tumblr.com/post/100836774445/interview-with-heather-gibson

[Anonymous No.7940429]

>>7940352

[Anonymous No.7940464]

>>7940304
i can smell the glicine from here
>>7940352
thx

[Anonymous No.7940916]

>>7937339
>t. literal zoomer
Imagine being too young to remember the world before 2010s.

[Anonymous No.7940919]

>>7937339
Also:
What even gave you an impression that I don't have physical copy, you dumb underage? From where do you think the uploads with Cenega release come from?

[Anonymous No.7941117]

>>7940916
>>7940919
>get informed on why physical media is better in certain circumstances then digital
>HURRR ZOOMER
Please take a break from 4chan, your brain is rotting.

[Anonymous No.7941258]

How do you feel about Tomb Raider 2's undersea shipwreck levels? I fucking hated them as a kid but coming back to it I can't help but find them really fucking cool.

[Anonymous No.7941307]

>>7941258
Like the half-sunken opera house in Venice, a shipwreck is an interesting level theme to explore.
Personally I like Maria Doria and The Deck, but I'm not too fond of 40 Fathoms or Living Quarters.

[Anonymous No.7941316]

>>7915973
This game probably has the worst controls of any I've ever played, I dropped it almost immediately. Might not have even made it through the tutorial fully.

[Anonymous No.7941828]

Nightmare in Vegas. Starting off this level I knew it would be polarizing with it's weird vibe right off the bat. But I just love how it kicks off, the isolation in this strange setting with footprints being heard all over the place. I think it's so well accomplished because the very first few areas you progress slowly, hiding behind corners and using the camera to see if there's anyone around - it feels like you're trying to sneak in before your position is discovered and you have to take action.

I might have missed out on the magnum and the uzis (since you can find ammo all over the place for them) but having to ride with my shotgun only really felt like a throwback to Home Sweet Home and put me in a state of anxienty when I suddently realized I was out of ammo for it during the second battle against "it" on the streets and would have to fight the last boss just using the pistols.

I'm not ashamed to admit I got filtered in the "climbing" part because I thought the game was telling you that jumping up and down that structure was a no no (I tried that like dozens of times) only to learn that it literally meant you can escalate it (but shouldn't). Such a nice and original touch by the devs right there - giving you clues but confusing you by making you think that sign means something else your head has cooked up.

The last boss felt like a hell of a threat. You know the last secret is right there but you have to get through the boss first and you got a lot of traps along the way to make your job more difficult. Then you have to get out of there and go back up so you have space to dodge and fight the boss. And while evading/dodging the boss is always hard, at least you're given you the right tools to actually try and make through it unscratched if you're really that good at using the environment around you at the right times. What a way to finish off Golden Mask!

[Anonymous No.7941831]

And I guess that's it, guys. I hope you liked it. I'll be taking a break from Tomb Raider before I follow up on 3 and The Last Revelations but when I do play them I'll write up through the levels that caught my attention like I did with Tomb Raider 2 and Golden Mask.

[Anonymous No.7942618]

Larachads?

[Anonymous No.7942624]

>>7942618
I really hope that's not a remaster of Angel of Darkness, unless it's not made by Crystal Dynamics. You know those soiboys would remove the breast jiggling and replace Lara with some low res version of nuLara instead.

[Anonymous No.7942670]

>>7941117
>Implies bunch of total bullshit that only a zoomer could make
>N-no, I-I'm not underage
Nigger, I've been pirating before you were born. If you think the only source of media is the official shop you are buying in, you deserve to be laughed at and ridiculed for how incompetent you are. Not to mention displaying the standard idiocy of someone who only plays 7th gen and higher, where backward compatibility doesn't exist - and that by itself is something to laugh at, you fucking console peasant, displaying the standard peasant fears.
Fuck man, you are a walking stereotype, displaying even more stereotypical behaviour... and try to sound smug about it, "Chad"

[Anonymous No.7942676]

>>7942624
I was told it's a fan-made stuff, but how did it end up on steam?

[Anonymous No.7942729]

>>7942676
this, i mean, it can be a fan game, like the TR2 fan remake. Don't you like it, guys?

[Anonymous No.7942775]

>>7942676
> I was told it's a fan-made stuff, but how did it end up on steam?

If Valve was willing to let a bunch of random Youtubers shit all over their franchise for a few shekels, I'm sure Eidos would gladly do it too.

[Anonymous No.7943308]

>>7942670
Whatever makes you feel better retarded ESL faggot.

[Anonymous No.7943778]

>>7943308
Nice non-arguments you've got there, "Chad". Don't forget to correct my grammar when you're at this.

[Anonymous No.7944420]

Kind weird I finished up my write-ups on Tomb Raider 2 Golden Mask yesterday and this repro I ordered arrived today. I was pretty happy when I saw it frens. I know it's kind silly to waste that much money on something that was not made by Eidos but I just loved Unfinished Business so much (and I can't say Golden Mask was disappointing - it certainly has its own charm) I couldn't help it. And it doesn't feel like a cheap knock-out - it feels like a genuine PSX game.

[Anonymous No.7944696]

>>7944420
Since you seem to love the gold stuff, yesterday I stumbled upon Campbell blog where he describes what tr4 gold would have been like, some Bermuda triangle/voodoo/pirates stuff. Also from the tr devs interview I watched yesterday, Campbell was from Eidos USA and barely interacted with the British team, just visited the team once after tr1 then doing his own thing with no input from the others.

http://www.philcampbelldesign.com/index.php/portfolio/story/tomb_raider/

There is a fan made tr4 gold level pack that tries to follow those ideas.

[Anonymous No.7945410]

>>7944420
>hidden treasures
the fuck is this anon

[Anonymous No.7945428]

>>7945410
>Beilor Games
Looks like an etsy seller who produces repros.

[Anonymous No.7945820]

Opera house was nice, you can tell it's a Heather level, lots of verticality, water and traps; nicely designed and unique looking location, but still too much combat for my taste.

[Anonymous No.7945838]

Offshore rig and diving area: well now you can tell it's a Neal section, rather dull industrial environments, even more focus on combat, feels quite similar to the Area 51 levels, even starts the same... level design is less interesting but he does combat better than Heather, enemy placement is less frustrating and gunfights feel more satisfying, I was expecting them to be a slog but overall the levels has a pleasant fast pace to make up for their unoriginality.

[Anonymous No.7945878]

>>7911491
>texture filtering on low res textures
>fake caustics
>basic bitch normal mapped water
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.7945885]

>>7945838
snake eaterrrr

[Anonymous No.7946003]

[Anonymous No.7946170]

>>7946003

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[Anonymous No.7947178]

Does Lara count as a tomboy? Is there a "tomb" pun in there somewhere

[Anonymous No.7947180]

>>7928738
To be fair, she makes a compelling argument for not using it. Someone should make a "Wide Lara" mod that leaves everything else normal.

[Anonymous No.7947202]

>>7944696
Thanks anon! That was an interesting read. Did Campbell ever went into more detail regarding the level design of each level or did he just come up with a general concept?

>>7945410
It's a repro of Unfinished Business and Golden Mask for the PSX. I guess he named it Hidden Treasures because it fit with the Tomb Raider style and the meta of it (for PSX fans). Has a manual with the description of the characters, levels, weapons and enemies, 4 postal cards with concept artwork and a map of Melkinov Island. Also each copy comes with its own number. Mine was 6/100. It's all written in spanish though.

>>7945820
Yeah, I felt Opera House was the only good level of Venice. It actually felt like St. Francis Folly TR2's counterpart, even if it wasn't designed with that intention.

>>7945838
It will be interesting to see what you think of Wreck of Dona Maria and The Deck.

[Anonymous No.7948006]

>>7947178
She grew up as one, yes.

[Anonymous No.7948248]

good thread, posting a rare Lara for it

[Anonymous No.7948670]

>>7948006
She didn't. She consciously chose to be one.

[Anonymous No.7948920]

>>7948006
She had braids and long hair as a teen, she was not a tomboy growing up.

[Anonymous No.7948926]

>>7948670
What did he mean by this?
>>7948920
>tomboy is a hair

[Anonymous No.7948971]

>>7948926
>>tomboy is a hair
It literally is, it's part of the aesthetic. A girl being interested in guns does not a tomboy make.

[Anonymous No.7949090]

>>7948926
It means she was brought up to be a lady from a minor noble house. And she chose to do everything unladylike possible the moment she had a say to it.

[Anonymous No.7949763]

>mogs your waifu