/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7910319]

What would be a nice /vr/ PC build specs wise? Something year 2000? What are your builds, share!

[Anonymous No.7910331]

Nigger

[Anonymous No.7910334]

Nigger

[Anonymous No.7910337]

Niggers

[Anonymous No.7910340]

Nigga

[Anonymous No.7910345]

>>7910331
>>7910334
>>7910337
>>7910340
>Typical /vr/ console fags being mad at someone making a PC thread
Classic

[Anonymous No.7910346]

>>7910345
You'll see, it will work and the whole thread will be deleted. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.7910351]

>>7910346
PC gaming and hardware for PC gaming is as much welcome on /vr/ as consoles or arcades are, try harder.

[Anonymous No.7910352]

>>7910345
>>7910346
Nigger

[Anonymous No.7910356]

>>7910351
Nigger

[Anonymous No.7910362]

kneeger

[Anonymous No.7910363]

kneegrow

[Anonymous No.7910367]

Nigeria

[Anonymous No.7910369]

Negro

[Anonymous No.7910465]

>>7910319
Sweet flat-screen CRT, bro.

[Anonymous No.7910495]

>>7910319
I don't know. Though MS-DOS based Windows and NT based operating systems is a big split for various interesting reasons.

[Anonymous No.7910505]

>>7910495
True, most hardware is geared either for one or the other too.

[Anonymous No.7910526]

DOS-9x: Pentium 3, ISA Soundblaster 16, 256mb of RAM, Voodoo3.
9x-XP: P4/A64, Soundblaster Audigy, 1gb of RAM, Geforce 5700+ for max compatibility, 6800 for best performance but only certain drivers work in 98 and table fog/8 bit paletted textures for a few games.

Some contrarian, pedantic shitheads will say you can cross into Pentium 4/Athlon XP/64 with ISA/DMA for older soundcards but these boards will be rare and expensive. You're going to have to sacrifice DOS sound compatibility or the speed/convenience of faster CPUs/GPUs/buses. You'll have to build for DOS/98 or 98/XP with fringe exceptions. A lot of DOS games will be fine with PCI soundcards but enough of them will have problems to notice.

[Anonymous No.7910545]

P4 2.4ghz, 1gb, Geforce 5900XT (not as awesome as it sounds, barely a 5800 in practice, but nice enough), SB Live + YMF744 (better DOS FM) PCI soundcards, 128gb SSD, 24x CDROM drive, mobo USB2 and ethernet. Dualbooting 98 and XP, occasional DOS usage. 17" CRT. Sidewinder 3D Pro and Interact ProPad 6 game controllers.

[Anonymous No.7910568]

>>7910526
>>7910545

These. You can always dual boot, but if you're primarily focusing on 90's DOS-based games, go Win98 with a P3, SB16, etc. That'll get you the best compatibility/stability for older titles.

[Anonymous No.7911253]

I have an ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop I want to touch up. I need to replace its ancient 4200 (!) rpm HDD and was thinking about a PATA SSD or equivalent.
What would be better: an old native PATA SSD (I say 'native' because later PATA SSDs are SATA SSDs with an adapter, and those aren't recognized by some old BIOS) or a CompactFlash with an IDE converter?

[Anonymous No.7911310]

>>7910319
Well do you want to play games released before or after 2000? MS-DOS and Win 9x shit won't work on a PC build from the early 2000s. Windows 2000 and XP are based on the NT kernel not the 9x kernel, and there are compatibility issues to consider when building a PC to play games of the time.

[Anonymous No.7911661]

>>7911310
>>MS-DOS and Win 9x shit won't work on a PC build from the early 2000s.
>she doesn't have a Athlon build with ISA Sound Blaster and 98SE / XP dual boot

[Anonymous No.7911683]

>>7910319
>Something year 2000?
Some Asus/Abit/Aopen/Chaintech Slot1 mobo with 440bx chipset, 1ghz PIII, 256/512megs 133mhz CL2 sdram, GF2 GTS/Pro (yeah, good luck with Ultra), SBlive/Vortex2, proper network adapter from 3com or netgear.
>What are your builds, share!
pic related, early XP-era rdram setup with radeon 9800 pro and audigy platinum.

[Anonymous No.7911697]

>>7911683
Based. Isn't that kind of overkill for /vr/ though? I'd expect at least a actual ISA sound card too.

>(yeah, good luck with Ultra)
What do you mean?

>pic related
It's very nice. Add SCSI and it would be a perfect high end build.

[Anonymous No.7911760]

>>7911697
>Isn't that kind of overkill for /vr/ though? I'd expect at least a actual ISA sound card too.
I mean do you really need an ISA soundcard in year 99-00 build? Live! cards got a pretty competent SB Pro/16 emulation, and with Aureal cards you can hook midi daughterboard up.
But with slot1 mobo you still got an option (just keep in mind you need a PSU with -5V rail for some superfancy soundcards).
>What do you mean?
Ultras is a top of the line GF2. Naturally, they are rare and fuckoff expensive.
>It's very nice. Add SCSI and it would be a perfect high end build.
Thanks. SCSI stuff is a bit too loud. And it's pretty hard to get an hdd in good condition since most of them were used and abused 24/7 as part of server equipment.

[Anonymous No.7911815]

>>7911683
Weren't VIA chipsets at the time actually better because they offered features like memory interleave?

[Anonymous No.7911923]

>>7911760
>the old Halo trailer
Man, nostalgy

[Anonymous No.7911926]

>>7911760
>>7911923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KqFJ5pPu2g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEVz0KyQDt8

[Anonymous No.7911934]

>>7911683
>GF2 GTS/Pro
>>7911926

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meLg7jSHT20

[Anonymous No.7911951]

>>7911760
>Ultras is a top of the line GF2. Naturally, they are rare and fuckoff expensive.
True. They are pretty rare and often expensive. But a Ultra is just a binned GTS with better memory, usually you can overclock a GTS to pretty much the same performance.
The Ultra cards look nice though, the GeForce2/3 (and their Quadro relatives) with the blue or green heatsinks and PCBs are just super nice.

[Anonymous No.7911982]

>>7911683
>>7911760
Are you still here anon? I have a few questions you might be able to answer.

[Anonymous No.7912119]

>>7911926
>>7911934
Oh man. Hope one day we will get some pre xbox era leaks.
>>7911982
Sure, go ahead.

[Anonymous No.7912131]

>>7912119
>Sure, go ahead.
I guess you have a GTS yourself. I always thought that you needed a GeForce3 with Pixel Shaders to get the glow effects in Halo CE but looking at the ad here about the GeForce2 GTS, apparently the GTS did have the glow around the plasma and stuff in Halo, while the GeFore2 MX didn't? (I have a MX and I don't have the effects).
Thanks.

>Oh man. Hope one day we will get some pre xbox era leaks.
Pretty sure the Apple 1999 trailer is from before Microsoft bought Bungie (that was in 2000 or 2001, this trailer is actual Apple even in 1999 when the game was still supposed to be Macintosh exclusive).

[Anonymous No.7912204]

>>7912131
Sorry anon, not sure what kind of effect you are talking about. Also as far as I know, in terms of features gf2 chips are basically identical (and none of them even shader model 1.0 capable).

[Anonymous No.7912224]

>>7910319
>Something year 2000?

Pentium III, 256MB RAM, Windows 98se, GeForce 256 32MB. (Basically the real PC I had in 2000, but with a better CPU and double the RAM)

[Anonymous No.7912247]

>>7910319
I used pentium 2 400 mhz at the time and considered it to be very powerful, many were still on pentium 1s.
I have a pentium 3 with a rage 128, that video card is too slow to even run the ps1 port of driver at full speed but can run quake 3 in 640x480 at 60 fps.
I ripped my original games using nero and play the games using the image drive, probably a lot better software to use such as alcohol 120 which I have and use sometimes.
A couple of my favorite games are Normality and Carmageddon.

[Anonymous No.7912251]

>>7912204
Watch the video when you have time: >>7911934
Like the glow effect at 0:47

>Also as far as I know, in terms of features gf2 chips are basically identical (and none of them even shader model 1.0 capable).
That's what I thought, but when I looked at the MX and GTS side by side, the MX has none at Pixel Shaders while the GTS is listed as Pixel Shader 0.5, I guess a very basic implementation of it that enables those effects.

Since I can guarantee I don't have effects like the green glow in pic related or the glow in the GTS commercial with my MX card. Asking if you know if your GTS has them.
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.7912383]

>>7912224
>Pentium III, 256MB RAM, Windows 98se, GeForce 256 32MB. (Basically the real PC I had in 2000, but with a better CPU and double the RAM

Or alternatively:

AMD Athlon 950 ThunderBird (Socket A, so I could upgrade to an XP a few years later), Windows NT, 256MB RAM and ATI Radeon 64MB VIVO.

[Anonymous No.7912401]

>>7912251
>GTS is listed as Pixel Shader 0.5
The thing is, while it was a proto pixel shader thingamajig (called Nvidia Shading Rasterizer) it was nothing but proof-of-concept, and in real life was it was only implemented for a couple of obscure tech demos.
>Since I can guarantee I don't have effects like the green glow in pic related or the glow in the GTS commercial with my MX card. Asking if you know if your GTS has them.
Unfortunately I can't confirm it now since my GTS is long gone, but I'm pretty sure I had aforementioned effects, just no as bright and pronounced.

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[Anonymous No.7912423]

>>7912403
MDD > Cube

[Anonymous No.7912427]

>>7912403
DO WANT

[Anonymous No.7912438]

>>7912403
>not the CRT Studio Display
Dropped

[Anonymous No.7912457]

>>7912403

1999 Mac G4.

[Anonymous No.7912467]

>>7912457
Based

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[Anonymous No.7912597]

>>7912593
cute
what game?

[Anonymous No.7912602]

[Anonymous No.7912605]

>>7912602
LGR?

[Anonymous No.7912607]

>>7912597
>what game?

Looks like Wacky Wheels, but could be Skunny Karts.

[Anonymous No.7912612]

[Anonymous No.7912619]

>>7912597
Wacky Wheels

[Anonymous No.7912623]

>>7912602
NIce, I have that DVD ROM, nice for 1999.

>>7912619
Eh, I had the same monitor for my Amiga. Always loved the design.

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[Anonymous No.7912632]

thanks for posting all those nice retro battlestations anon

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[Anonymous No.7912705]

>>7912703
Ugh, beautiful anon

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[Anonymous No.7912715]

>>7912712
For the love for God anon, I can only take so much...

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[Anonymous No.7912769]

>>7912726

The pixel art Turrican power-ups on the wall complete the image. Nicely done!

[Anonymous No.7912770]

>>7912712
Holy shit this is so perfect.

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[Anonymous No.7912851]

>>7912834
That would have been nice to have 20 years ago.

[Anonymous No.7912871]

>>7912851
I would kill for a G3 in good condition.

[Anonymous No.7912927]

>>7912834

> Flip down MB on the side wall.

Why can't modern day cases be this good?

[Anonymous No.7912929]

>>7912927
There's a whole market of custom cases these days. There's models that support features like that.

[Anonymous No.7912961]

>>7912929
>There's a whole market of custom cases these days. There's models that support features like that.

I'm sure there are custom cases like this. But this was never standard for PC cases. Awesome system.

[Anonymous No.7912974]

>>7912961
True but that's also a big difference between PCs and Macs at the time too, Macs were pre-build, always, while PCs were almost always made with a bunch of off the shelf parts, even pre-builds.

[Anonymous No.7913003]

>you will never own a Y2K TOWER OF POWER

[Anonymous No.7913014]

>>7913003
I already do.

>1GHz P3
>256MB RAM
>GeForce2 Ultra
>SB AWE32 and SB Live!
>SCSI 160 with several 10k RPM drives
>all in a full tower case

[Anonymous No.7913167]

>>7913014
N E A T

[Anonymous No.7913169]

for me its the geforce3 ti500

[Anonymous No.7913280]

>>7911253
I just did the cf card thing on a late-era DOS system I recently put together, works real nice so far. BIOS and dos see and use the cf card as just any old IDE device, since it is.

>Asus P2B-F mainboard with latest BIOS update, Fuck what the crusty shits at vogons say, with this bios update at least, you _can_ use both 3.5 and 5.25 floppy drives at once.
>NOS Pentium II 233 w/MMX slot one cpu with a 120mm fan mounted hilariously to the heatsink via some custom brackets
>Trancend media 2gb cf card
>Sybotech (I think) cf>IDE adaptor
>Lite-on cd-rom
>the afor-mentioned 3.5 and 5.25 floppies
>Nvidia Geforce2 GTS
>Sound blaster 16 ISA M# CT1740
>Ch products Gameport III Automatic gameport controller card, as Zeliard seems to not want to work with the SB16's gameport.
>ps/2 keyboard
>serial mouse

Tip one: Use a serial mouse if you're operating in DOS, something about ps/2 mice seems to lag the whole damned system down. Don't know if it's drivers, or some tarded' I/O conflict.
Tip two: Have your BIOS set to either LARGE, LBA, or better still AUTO for the ide devices if you're using a 500mb or larger drive, and optical drives as well. NORMAL is/was for the older, smaller capacity drives.

[Anonymous No.7913284]

>>7913014
Does duke nukem voices in every video
talks about duke all the time
owns shit loads of duke nukem stuff
does a play through of Duke 3D
Sets the difficulty to
>Lets Rock
lol Like how could you play duke that much and like it that much and still be challenged by lets rock what a fuckin noob

[Anonymous No.7913291]

>>7913003
three dvd burners and an extra dvd drive? why?
that audio interface is sick though.

[Anonymous No.7913301]

>>7912619

Duke Nukem 3D mouse pad (came with the boxed copy of DN3D), Microsoft intellimouse. I had a few of those, loved using them. Gravis gamepad. Model M keyboard. Nice.

[Anonymous No.7913342]

>>7913291
>three dvd burners and an extra dvd drive? why?
Piracy station

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[Anonymous No.7914467]

>>7913169
Classy.
On the side note. Why early 00s graphics cards look so aesthetically pleasing?

[Anonymous No.7914540]

>>7914467
smol fan

[Anonymous No.7914565]

>>7912757
I quite recently got a 4k TV, and just after I had set it up I absolutely had to do this. It was uncomfortable, but amazing.

[Anonymous No.7914569]

>>7912707
>Toshiba satellite laptop
Ayyyy I have two of those. Great machines.

[Anonymous No.7914769]

An unconventional kind of year 2000 build.

[Anonymous No.7914783]

>>7914769
Did you afterwards gut it and stepped on all the parts you took out and then used the case for a shitty oudated build?

[Anonymous No.7914785]

>>7914769
>>7914783
kek

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/someone-destroyed-a-rare-original-xbox-development-kit.1346423/

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/5qewph/refurbished_and_old_xbox_development_kit_and_made/

[Anonymous No.7914894]

>>7913167
>IDGAF

[Anonymous No.7914897]

>>7914783
No, I picked up an empty case and stuff it with similar parts.

[Anonymous No.7914901]

>>7914897
Nice!
What GPU?

[Anonymous No.7914932]

>>7914901
2bh I'm just larpin'
But the GPU is a ProLink GF3.
Shit's compatible with the OG hardware since it's the same good old nv2x series.

[Anonymous No.7915184]

>>7911760
>SCSI stuff is a bit too loud.
The sound of 10k or 15k RPM SCSI drives make it all worth it.

[Anonymous No.7915574]

Aluminium and turquoise glass - peak early 00s style

[Anonymous No.7915578]

>>7915574
>peak early 00s style
Truly. What a beautiful machine.
Got any more pics of it?

[Anonymous No.7915596]

>>7915574
>biohazard fan grill
SOUL

Needs UV IDE cables, UV fans and UV LEDs though.

[Anonymous No.7915618]

>>7915596
>UV LEDs
Wasn't really a option back in the day you know. We used UV CCFLs.

[Anonymous No.7915620]

>>7915618
Maybe they were a new thing at the time but I had UV LEDs by 2005. Cold cathodes would be more authentic and powerful though.

[Anonymous No.7916201]

[Anonymous No.7916313]

>>7916201
Is that a homemade fan controller?
But that 4 digit processor speed display is pretty awesome.

[Anonymous No.7916584]

>>7910319
You don't need the typical "LGR" build, good read on why here

https://proxima64.neocities.org/sentiments/articles/retrogaming.html

[Anonymous No.7916625]

Question: can I put new DDR3 ram into an old PC? The mobo supports up to DDR3 1600 (ASUS p5e3 Pro). Or is new DDR3 ram incompatable with antiquated CPUs/chipsets?

[Anonymous No.7916827]

>>7910319
Not PC but my setup

[Anonymous No.7916951]

[Anonymous No.7916959]

>>7916625
>Question: can I put new DDR3 ram into an old PC? The mobo supports up to DDR3 1600 (ASUS p5e3 Pro). Or is new DDR3 ram incompatable with antiquated CPUs/chipsets?

sounds fine to me.

[Anonymous No.7916961]

>>7916625

If it supports DDR3 it will work, but you'll only get as much speed out of it as the mobo supports

[Anonymous No.7916989]

>>7916959
>>7916961
Ok cool. I was worried because the ram I want only lists a small number of newer chipsets in its compatability list.

[Anonymous No.7917020]

>>7916989
>Ok cool. I was worried because the ram I want only lists a small number of newer chipsets in its compatability list.

I don't see why there should be an issue. If the speed is the same, it should be fine. If it was faster, I think it would down clock to 1600 speed. But you might have to do that manually in the BIOS. Corsair Vengance DDR3 has good compatibility from my experience with it.

[Anonymous No.7917046]

>>7917020
Yeah the mobo is from '08 and I believe the DDR3 Vengeance kit is from '12 so I think it'll be fine. I've been out of the loop when it comes to newer PC hardware so I just wanted to get a second opinion. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.7917345]

Something before 1999, after that you need to recap the mobo and good luck with that. I can no longer find working P4 motherboards locally, they came out right at the cap hell.

[Anonymous No.7917831]

>>7916951
I had one as a kid. I wish I'd find one of the later ones with speakers integrated and CD ROM.

[Anonymous No.7917834]

>>7917345
I recap shit that's even 10-15 years old. Specially CRTs, video and sound cards.

>>7916625
Yes, if the DDR3 is faster than 1600, it will just run at slower 1600 speeds.
Some motherboards have a table of compatible RAM too that's tested, but 99.9% of the time, if it's the same standard (DDR1, DDR3, etc) it will work.

[Anonymous No.7917898]

>>7916584
You really created a blog just to cope?

[Anonymous No.7917924]

>>7917898
I don't see anything wrong with that, it's good people are spreading the word that meme prices are a lie.

[Anonymous No.7918019]

>>7914769
omfg is this that scumbag's complete build?
the collective fury of a million spergs will force him to an eternity in hell

[Anonymous No.7918024]

>>7910319
That is an absolutely pristine, beautiful setup, phone is a nice touch and good job finding those speakers. It is so pristine I am thinking you should get unworn roman columns or paint your own to give everything a "new old stock" feel.

[Anonymous No.7918049]

>>7914785
Huh, looks like an early Alpha Tower revisions were equipped with gefore2 GTS. I wonder if it was possible to run some OGbox games on it.

[Anonymous No.7918075]

>>7918049
It was a early dev kit, so yeah, it did run OG Xbox games.

[Anonymous No.7918103]

>>7918019
>omfg is this that scumbag's complete build?
>the collective fury of a million spergs will force him to an eternity in hell
Can confirm, I was in that thread and I tried to plead with the OP. He didn't heed my cries.

[Anonymous No.7918136]

>>7918103
I imagine a scenario where a crypto-autist who never forgot orders a hit on him

[Anonymous No.7918162]

>>7918136
Kek, Starring Ryan Gosling as the redditor-hitman.
I love how the OP changed the thread flair to Satire after two days of bullying. Fucking retard genius. Lmao

[Anonymous No.7918190]

>>7910526
theres this thing called dosbox, and this other thing called the vee ems.

[Anonymous No.7918191]

>>7911934
nice hideous anime faggot

[Anonymous No.7918192]

>>7918019
>>7918103
>build a already outdated build worth maybe a few hundred euros, while gutting a devkit that people offered to buy for 5000 euros
genius indeed

[Anonymous No.7918195]

>>7918190
imagine even wanting to play DOS garbage

[Anonymous No.7918202]

>>7916827
nice dust covered tower

[Anonymous No.7918209]

>>7918103
that's what you get for enforcing "PC master race" into reality.
Deal with dumb fucks now.

[Anonymous No.7918220]

>>7918209
I'm a console fag.

[Anonymous No.7918229]

>>7918220
I mean in general that's what people get for PC getting more mainstream nowadays and everyone installing RGB and shit to have "gamer" build. All that while basking in their "superiority".
Was not addressed to you in particular, sorry about that.

[Anonymous No.7918235]

>>7918229
Normies ruin everything eventually, a story as old as time.

[Anonymous No.7918237]

>>7918024
those boots - what a faggot

[Anonymous No.7918249]

>>7917834
I've never realized capacitors were so common to be the main fault, I threw away broken cards that maybe could be fixed by recapping. My P4 motherboard has textbook cap issues, they ballooned up, some dark liquid has leaked from the top, motherboard booted but it had strange bus speeds, now it powers but no image.

[Anonymous No.7918258]

>>7918237
u jelly of my gripfasts m8
fun fact: i made a CRT joke on /pol/ and posted my sleeper rig, then british anon posted his sleeper rig and he had his autism boots on and and i had MY autism boots on so i took this amazing picture. there are literally armies of us.
it was a very beautiful, autistic, and extremely racist moment in time.

[Anonymous No.7918263]

>>7918235
Yea, I know. For some reason I find them worst offender nowadays when it comes to anything PC related.
As if PCfags can do no wrong, etc.

[Anonymous No.7918271]

>>7918263
Good. Shit should be ruined.

[Anonymous No.7918276]

>>7918271
Yea, I'm mostly over it anyway. I have my backlog which will last me forever.
No need to ever interact with anyone or be annoyed at new things

[Anonymous No.7918279]

>>7918249
There was also a period where a lot of low quality capacitors came from China (called the capacitor plague) which is mostly early 2000's equipment. So P4 motherboards fall exactly into that period.
Recapping is generally a good idea for anything older since caps just don't have a good shelf life, some hardware from even the 80's could still be just fine, specially if you give the caps time to heal slowly, but you never know if the crash you encountered, etc was a problem of a power ripple because of a bad cap or something else, so just to minimize those problems, might as well change the caps. That's specially true for analog things, like CRTs or sound cards, where a bad cap can make the picture out of focus or shake or the sound too quiet, etc.

[Anonymous No.7918282]

>>7918276
I am sensing intense zen-like neetdom from that. you hate normies and new gay shit so much it's admirable and I know that feel. life is short though king.

[Anonymous No.7918285]

>>7918282
>life is short though king.
More the reason to get back to that backlog.

[Anonymous No.7918301]

>>7918024
>estrogen pillbottles
lmao

[Anonymous No.7918316]

>>7918301
you wish, faggot

[Anonymous No.7918318]

>>7918316
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.7918326]

>>7918318
>army boots
>steroid bottles
>"""ywnbaw""""
I hope not

[Anonymous No.7918590]

>>7910319
> steam
Imagine being this faggot

[Anonymous No.7918607]

>>7912712
The longer you look... Awesome time capsule setup.

[Anonymous No.7918990]

>>7912712
aesthetic perfection for you too btw

[Anonymous No.7919753]

>>7910319
For a faggot like you? Some old shitty laptop. All the cool zoomers are doing it.

[Anonymous No.7920070]

>>7913284
He used to do reviews of various DOS games but you can tell he only knew Duke Nukem 3D back in the day and is larping since.

[Anonymous No.7920075]

>>7912974
When I first got the Mac Pro it blew me away how awesome it was designed, some annoying things as it was custom and new hardware needed to be adapted to it like SSD's.

[Anonymous No.7921015]

>>7920075
Yep, always lowed the design of Apple desktops, before the Trashcan.

[Anonymous No.7922014]

bump

[Anonymous No.7923170]

>>7921015
>lowed
It's spelled loathed, dumbass

[Anonymous No.7924196]

bump

[Anonymous No.7925883]

>>7910545
I'd go with a Radeon 9800 over the 5900 if you are loading any DX9 games on it.

[Anonymous No.7927515]

bump

[Anonymous No.7929132]

>>7912712
>69°C
jesus what's cooking in there, bet it's a Pentium 4

[Anonymous No.7929218]

>>7922014
>>7923170
>>7924196
>>7925883
>>7927515
>>7929132
Is there any special reason why you keep bumping this dead thread?

[Anonymous No.7929251]

>>7929218
>you keep
hmm

[Anonymous No.7929342]

>>7918024
>let me see how much of my personal identity i can cram into a single photo
>god, please validate my existence and think i'm cool
>anyone
>just... please...
jfc, get a grip on yourself

[Anonymous No.7930184]

>>7929218
Replying to posts? u mad?

[Anonymous No.7930659]

>>7930184
replying to week-old posts with irrelevant shit to bump a dead thread? you're better than that.

[Anonymous No.7930694]

>>7912612
what's picrel and its function?
>>7912624
cool grandmother setup

[Anonymous No.7930710]

>>7930694
It looks like a tubular pin tumbler lock

[Anonymous No.7931024]

>>7912732
>Superfrog
>Walker
>Turrican
>Rainbow Islands
All the things I loved to play. Only needs a Battle Squadron spaceship.

[Anonymous No.7931165]

>>7930659
The first post you cried about that's a reply was to something the day before. Day-old != week old. Unfortunately you aren't better than that.

>>7930694
It's a key to lock the keyboard. Standard on old PCs.

[Anonymous No.7932871]

bump

[Anonymous No.7933358]

>>7910319
How can I find and under monitor surge protector under the monitor like in OPs image? It's pretty cool, but not sure what/where to look.

[Anonymous No.7933478]

>>7933358
You could try googling "retarded old pc shit only try hard wannabe hipsters have"

[Anonymous No.7933623]

>>7933478
>militant crybaby

okay seethe

[Anonymous No.7933629]

>>7933358
I actually had one of those on my desk at an old job as recently as 2019. It's a needle/haystack thing but I'd say check out goodwills near you. You could also just search marketplace for like "computer" and filter by cheapest. As long as you don't use "retro" in your filter stuff should be pretty cheap/free.

[Anonymous No.7933680]

>>7910319
>Pentium 3 or 4 build
>any Geforce is powerful enough for 1999 or below
>for Glide gaming, get a Voodoo 3. They are still relatively cheap compared to the other Voodoos.
>Soundblaster Live easily covers all of your basic audio needs
>If you want to get really fancy you can use an Audigy 2Z or an Aureal Vortex2 instead

A Geforce4 MX440 is a really fantastic 90s gaming card. Still cheap as dirt.

[Anonymous No.7934702]

>>7933623
>pacifist crybaby
>>7933629
They're common as fuck. That exact model is still being sold.

[Anonymous No.7935745]

>>7929342
jelly, thanks for saying i have a strong personal identity, consoomerfaggot.
>>7933478
>he likes post-07 electronics/appliance design

[Anonymous No.7935885]

>>7910319
>>7933680
>not going for a 90's beast machine with a P3 1GHZ, 512MB RAM and one of these beauties:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK4-7Gh5SFU

[Anonymous No.7936061]

>>7929342
There is no reason to share personal setups outside of educational reasons that don't boil down to "recognize me" or "validate me".
There's battlestations threads on here and /g/ that's literally about "look my shit".

[Anonymous No.7936140]

>>7935885
>90's
>P3 1GHz
Not a thing in the 90's, even for a 800MHz to clock to 1GHz you'd need LN.
If you're going 2000 already with a 1GHz or 900MHz OC'd to 1GHz P3, might as well go with a GeForce 2 GTS too.

[Anonymous No.7936142]

>>7935885
>>7936140
Super cool card tho, I'm happy we're able to produce such fun shit.

[Anonymous No.7936750]

>>7910526
>>7910545
>>7910568

Is Pentium3 era the norm for DOS retro now? Feels like only yesterday that everybody wanted Socket7 in an AT case, and PIII was considered literal trash.

[Anonymous No.7936769]

>>7936750
It's the highest common denominator for a high end DOS+Win9x build. Hardware with ISA support is easy to find and configure, it's not too new and not too slow, plus manages even oldest DOS games with now available tools to slow down the computer to make them run at the right speed.
I used to have a SS7 machine but after I could just combine it with my Win9x machine, saves space and makes things easier.

[Anonymous No.7936802]

>>7936769

I have a SS7 machine right now because i enjoy having an AT case, but i do find myself annoyed sometimes at how the ~450mhz CPU just isn't enough to run some of the 3D stuff i want. I also have a Socket A board but that feels too "new" where i might as well be using a modern pc at that point so i just dont use it... I'm starting to think that IBM-PC compatibles in general might be a waste for retroing because they're too similar to modern stuff, except with more hardware problems and incompatibilities.

[Anonymous No.7937194]

>>7910319
>What would be a nice /vr/ PC build specs wise?
Depends on what games you are most interested in would determine a nice spec. Maybe as recent and powerful for maximum compatibility via emulation.

>Something year 2000?
I guess that would match my planned J-Win98SE build. I have not finalized the choices, but it surrounds the Pentium III.

>What are your builds, share!
I have a few time machines that are underway:
-Super Socket 7 for DOS
-PIIIs for J-Win98SE
-Athlon XP for Win2000pro
-Athlon 64 FX60 for 32-bit WinXP
-Athlon 64 X2 6400+ for 64-bit WinXP
-Xeon E5-2650v2 for Win2k3 (hoping to find a cheap E5-1650v2)
-i7 7820 for retro Win7U

[Anonymous No.7937247]

>>7937194

holy shit, I have that exact same Pentium III board seen on the top right. The ASUS one. I recognize it because it only has 3 RAM slots. It was in a literal office PC that somebody gave to me two years ago, because they didn't know what else to do with it. It has a Pentium III in it as well. I haven't tested it. But all the capacitors still look good.

[Anonymous No.7937336]

>>7910319
those columns holding up the speakers are awesome.

[Anonymous No.7937485]

>>7935745
You're trying too hard

[Anonymous No.7937737]

>>7937194
Fucking nice to see your stuff again, since the last time we talked I've been able to score a GeForce2 GTS, a Live! and a 1GHz P3 for my Y2K P3 build. Might post pictures later if I have time.
Any of your machines in working order already?

[Anonymous No.7937987]

>>7937247
It is a nice motherboard, with good documentation. It looks like it has 2 more slots for IDE connectors but mine doesn't have them attached. One weakness is the chipset for it does not allow anything past 512MB of RAM, which is okay for Win98. The primary reason I am considering the motherboard on the left is the ISA slot which the ASUS lacks for some classic sound cards.

>>7937737
Very nice! That should be great for Y2k. Is there a reason for a 2GTS over a 4MX? The closest to completion is my retro Win7U build which requires a bit of research for the OS, but once I figure it out it should be a good 720p machine of the era.

[Anonymous No.7938005]

>>7937987
>Very nice! That should be great for Y2k.
Yeah, makes for a very decent machine for the time, even plays a few games that a couple years newer pretty well.
Plus I stuck a AWE32 and Voodoo 2 in there too, so most of DOS and a bunch of very specific Glide-only and specially Glide DOS games work perfectly fine (i.e. Carmageddon).
Pretty happy how it turned out.

>Is there a reason for a 2GTS over a 4MX?
You mean the GeForce2 MX400 or GeForce4 MX4*0?
Well the GTS is a tad faster card that came out in 2000, while even the GeForce2 MX400 came out in 2001, as I said, I'm trying to stick to 2000 and older, the only part that's newer than 2000 is one of the SCSI drives currently in it. Also pretty sure the ThermalTake copper heatsink I have in it right now is like 2002 too.

>The closest to completion is my retro Win7U build which requires a bit of research for the OS, but once I figure it out it should be a good 720p machine of the era.
That looks balling. That era was fun for SLI and Crossfire.

[Anonymous No.7938824]

>>7937987
>It is a nice motherboard, with good documentation. It looks like it has 2 more slots for IDE connectors but mine doesn't have them attached. One weakness is the chipset for it does not allow anything past 512MB of RAM, which is okay for Win98. The primary reason I am considering the motherboard on the left is the ISA slot which the ASUS lacks for some classic sound cards.


Actually, I take that back. This is not an Asus board, that was my mistake on first glance. But it looks identical, though, This one is made by mastonic, and has a Pentium III in it as well as a single 256 stick of memory. I suspect that this machine can use 768MB total. This is a board that somebody game me. Not sure what I would do with it. Part it out and sell the pieces, or keep it? I do have another PIII class Motherboard

[Anonymous No.7938827]

>>7938005
What's wrong with th Voodoo 2?

[Anonymous No.7938993]

>>7938827
What's wrong with it? Do you mean the SLI header? It's just a plastic connector to protect the pins.

[Anonymous No.7939076]

What should I fill my empty slots with? Kinda thinking a storage drawer and something else.

[Anonymous No.7939115]

>>7939076
SCSI mobile rack caddies!
How's the BeBox coming along? Done anything yet to it?

[Anonymous No.7939248]

>>7939115
It's on the back burner for another few weeks. I want to finish my Mac Plus and sell an LCII I just picked up. Then I'll build it.

[Anonymous No.7940020]

>>7939076
Cigarette lighter.

[Anonymous No.7940085]

>>7936750
>what is throttle.exe and turning off your cache

[Anonymous No.7940106]

I bought 3 17" CRTs several months ago. My favorite of the bunch black. Fit my case, keyboard, mouse, and everything perfectly. Fucking thing went blew a cap or something and went into a flicker loop where it never fully starts up. Got rid of it and started using one of the 2 beige ones remaining. My retro setup hasn't been the same since. This has been my second CRT monitor to go.

Who do you even take these goddamn things to when they break? What are quotes like for these repairs? I've done a tad of amateur hour soldering but fucking around with this thing that could probably kill me seems like a bad idea. Anyone have any experience fixing monitors? Should someone without any formal electronics training even attempt it? Just wanna know what to do when I'm inevitably faced with my last one blowing up.

[Anonymous No.7940109]

I bought 3 17" CRT monitors several months ago. My favorite of the bunch was black. Fit my case, keyboard, mouse, and everything perfectly. Fucking thing went. Blew a cap or something and went into a flicker loop where it never fully started up. Got rid of it and started using one of the 2 remaining beige ones. My retro setup hasn't felt the same since. This has been my second CRT monitor to go.

Who do you even take these goddamn things to when they break? What are quotes like for these repairs? I've done a tad of amateur hour soldering but fucking around with this thing that could probably kill me seems like a bad idea. Anyone have any experience fixing monitors? Should someone without any formal electronics training even attempt it? Just wanna know what to do when I'm inevitably faced with my last one blowing up.

[Anonymous No.7940221]

>>7936802
It's not about "feel", it's about compatibility.
A P3 with a ISA slot can do everything a SS7 can but more, while a modern computer needs software emulations to do many of those things the P3 and SS7 machine do natively.

>they're too similar to modern stuff
Modern PCs aren't even PC-Compatible without CSM and you need things like DOSBox, software wrappers or PCem to get access to Glide, EAX, OPL synths, etc, things that are not 100% compatible or true to their hardware originals.

[Anonymous No.7940230]

>>7940109
>Blew a cap
>Got rid of it
Recapping is quite literally the most common thing in this old hardware hobby, yet all the time you see people saying they threw away their CRT because a cap blew or their picture was messed up because a cap was busted.

>Who do you even take these goddamn things to when they break?
First thing I do when I get a CRT is:

1) Clean inside and out.
2) Recap.
3) Recalibrate.

Then I'll start using it and if I find anything other wrong with it, after that I focus on that repair.
If it's broken beyond reasonable repair, I use it for parts for other ones.

>that could probably kill me seems like a bad idea.
That's why you need experience, which comes with years doing it.

>formal electronics training
Many hobbyist are more educated in their specific hardware fields than people with "formal electronics training", it's about experience and knowledge, not where or how you got it.

I've gotten plenty of high voltage zaps over the years, because I started when knowledge about it wasn't even as easily available as today and learned the hard way.
I'm not saying stick your tongue into the CRT, but it's quite hard to actually get yourself killed by one, but learn what not to do beforehand and use safety equipment and practices (decharge capacitors beforehand, wear rubber gloves, rubber soles, use your right hand near things you think might contain high voltage, etc.)

[Anonymous No.7940349]

>>7940109
>Just wanna know what to do when I'm inevitably faced with my last one blowing up.
Hopefully have gathered enough experience and know how to repair them by then.

[Anonymous No.7940376]

>>7939076
Whatever you do don't use drive bay covers like someone who's not a faggot would use.

>>7940230
>Many hobbyist are more educated in their specific hardware fields than people with "formal electronics training"
This. There's a big emphasis on specialization and many "obsolete" things aren't even taught as part of general electronics education. Anyone who bult a kit TV or did his own repairs back in the day is going to know infinitely more about TVs than someone who specializes in DSPs and has never seen a tube in his life.

[Anonymous No.7940505]

>>7910526
>Voodoo3
In some cases, running 2 Voodoo2 cards in SLI mode along with a separate 2D card (preferably a S3 or Matrox card) performs better than Voodoo3 alone.

[Anonymous No.7940510]

>>7940221
>It's not about "feel", it's about compatibility.
I disagree about that. Its important to use parts that feel exciting

[Anonymous No.7940515]

>>7940505
Yeah, but without 768p support or 32-bit support.

[Anonymous No.7940517]

>>7940510
"feel" is pretty useless when you can't play the games you want

[Anonymous No.7940759]

>>7910319
There are other speakers besides Rolands. Youtuber memes are lame

[Anonymous No.7940820]

>>7940759

[Anonymous No.7940871]

>>7940759
>had the speakers before YouTube was even a thing
>good speakers even back in the day, still are
>"nooo youtuber memes lame XD"

[Anonymous No.7940924]

Got a dell optiplex 320 with this in it.
I tried to add more ram. But whatever i put in rejected it.
Doesnt matter. Seems to run all early 2000 games well.

[Anonymous No.7941195]

>>7938005
>SCSI
If the point is gaming, why use SCSI?

[Anonymous No.7941215]

>>7941195
>It's time to build your Y2K /vr/ gaming machine son, you have to pick the storage solution now.
>On the one side you have plebian UPATA/66 with theoretical speed of 66MB/s shared between the drives and widespread 5400 and 7200 RPM drives, supporting 2 devices per controller and buggy DMA for the time and software RAID
>On the other side you have glorious Ultra3 SCSI with 160MB/s shared between the drives and widespread 10000 and 15000 RPM drives with megabytes of cache, supporting 15 drives per controller, proper DMA and controller offloading for RAID

>why use SCSI?
It's cool.

[Anonymous No.7941541]

Vogons has a lot of neat info. Phils PC lab on yt has some great builds that don't break the bank.

[Anonymous No.7941750]

>>7941541
Not just info, both Vogons and Phils homepage have lots of drivers too.

[Anonymous No.7942347]

>>7912757
From the looks of it, Russians are going to be playing Heroes 3 and launching stuff with the R-7 family of rockets until the heat death of the universe and beyond.

[Anonymous No.7942461]

>>7942347
and they would be right

[Anonymous No.7942582]

>>7940871
>had the speakers before YouTube was even a thing
Sure you did

[Anonymous No.7942608]

>>7912707
what is that green disk cover sticking out of your computer? is that a storage compartment on the old PC?

[Anonymous No.7942727]

>>7942608
Looks like just a green 3.5" floppy

[Anonymous No.7943265]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.7944519]

>>7910319
Threadripper, Dual 3090s. It's not the fucking stone age anymore moron.

[Anonymous No.7945124]

>>7938005
The Thermaltake cooler you have there looks like a Volcano 7 which I had in those days, which I am trying to recreate with my Win2k machine. In building your own computers, they tend to reflect the person a bit which is what makes them so interesting. I get you're going with period correct, and that period did have a lot of great games to play.

>>7938824
Pretty close, but you do have a nice ISA slot for that classic SoundBlaster audio that I love. I'm not going to make suggestions, as that's for you to decide what is the best for your situation. Maybe consider, as I am at the moment, to make dueling P3s, as that time period was great for networked RTS and FPS games.

[Anonymous No.7945358]

>>7910319
>youtube shitposter
le back to le youtube

[Anonymous No.7945367]

>>7945124
>looks like a Volcano 7
That's exactly what it is. Good eyes.

[Anonymous No.7945562]

>>7945124
Good hardware pr0n

[Anonymous No.7945603]

>not liquid metalling your 7800

[Anonymous No.7945604]

>>7912712
If anyone breaks in at least you can bludgeon them with that computer tower. Holy hell that is a monster.

[Anonymous No.7945608]

>>7945604
Full towers are fun, specially now where you can pack them full of hardware with little concern for money.

[Anonymous No.7946218]

>>7940871
>larped the larps even before larps were a larp

[Anonymous No.7946247]

>>7946218
I unironically had a lot of things in everyday use that are considered memes now. CRTs, BS and mehanical keyboards, etc.

[Anonymous No.7946258]

I watched LGR back when his username was Phreakindee and he had less than 2k subscribers. Miss the pre-shil days.

[Anonymous No.7946791]

>>7946258
I remember when he still had a crush on PUR and PUR still had her blog posts up about him and his tries to break out of the friend zone. Great laughs.

[Anonymous No.7947549]

What are some good retro speakers to look out for?

I'm only aware of Roland thanks to LGR, but those prices seem crazy inflated (probably due to LGR).

[Anonymous No.7947918]

>>7946247
>I unironically larped

[Anonymous No.7948152]

>>7947918
>no way there's /g/tards here who are 30+ and hoarded hardware 15 years ago already

[Anonymous No.7948174]

>>7947549
Most big computer speakers with at least two drivers in one speaker and a port. The Rolands aren't even that good compared to most higher end ones. You might want to recap them and add some plastic wool into them for dampening when you find any.
There's also the Creative surround set with woofer, but that's expensive too these days.

[Anonymous No.7948223]

>>7945124
>purple pcb
ughhh

[Anonymous No.7948226]

>>7948223
Pure sex

[Anonymous No.7948264]

>>7947549
>tfw those speakers cost 300 bucks
>>7948174
>tfw those you can find for 5 bucks or even free
Memes are strong

[Anonymous No.7948309]

>>7948152
>no way there's larpers here who are larp+ and larped larp 15 larps ago.
Stop playing games already. Are you really going to defend an obviously staged instagram pic of hipster cringe? Does you mom even know how bad you're embarrassing yourself on teh intarwebz?

[Anonymous No.7948316]

>>7948309
Go back the post chain, I think you're confused to what this was even about. OP isn't even in this thread.

[Anonymous No.7948319]

>>7948316
Person who took OPs picture*
Derp, I'm OP