/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7905702]

He sure does go through the wringer, doesn't he?
FFVII thread

[Anonymous No.7905831]

I can't recall how many hours I spent in the gold saucer playing this and the motorbike chase game as a kid

[Anonymous No.7905857]

>>7905831
for me, it was mog house

[Anonymous No.7905938]

Playing Hide and Seek with Yuffie is damn nerve wracking.

[Anonymous No.7906015]

So apparently I can't go to Wutai and do the whole Materia side quest until I get Cloud back in my party. I guess I have to start the whole game all over again.

[Anonymous No.7906229]

>>7906015
>I guess I have to start the whole game all over again.
but why
just wait until you have Kuraudo back

[Anonymous No.7906310]

Oh, turns out I don't need Cloud to do it after all.

[Anonymous No.7906347]

This game feels gigantic, more than most games
I guess it's because the world is so varied

[Anonymous No.7906354]

>>7906347
it's also structured pretty well and you can explore most of the world map somewhat early

[Anonymous No.7906378]

All the models in this game have a toylike quality to them, not just the overworld models but the ones used in the FMVs too

[Anonymous No.7907126]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S25R3FGwPZw

[Anonymous No.7907163]

I just did the ship level and got to the beach town. I skipped the battle outside of the port on the previous continent, did I miss anything important?

[Anonymous No.7907186]

>>7907126
Ancient City must be one of my favorite locations ever, even though there's nothing to do in it other than advancing the story. Looks like an underwater place that isn't underwater. The location and the music gives a healing feeling.

[Anonymous No.7907239]

>>7906015
You have til the start of disk 3.

[Anonymous No.7907259]

>>7905702
I can't stop thinking that they'll either skip this or move it somewhere else in the Remake because fuck, talk about a violent shift in tone.

[Anonymous No.7907287]

currently watching rocco from mega64 replay through FF7, on youtube but from a few years back - really making me want to play it again.

[Anonymous No.7907295]

>>7907259
I doubt Remake will be following any more of FF7's story beats. It's veered off into its own direction, where Nomura is free to unleash whatever brain farts he wants.

[Anonymous No.7907312]

>>7905702
Who cares he got Tifa pussy at the end of the day. Was all worth it

[Anonymous No.7907892]

>>7905857
You see stuff like this and you wonder how every other piece of FF7 media after the original game looks grey and bleak

[Anonymous No.7908157]

>>7907892
because Square themselves didn't get FF7

[Anonymous No.7908164]

>>7905702
ff7 isn't retro. fuck off ff7fag, worst game in the entire franchise

[Anonymous No.7908183]

>>7908164
>ff7 isn't retro
imagine the IQ

[Anonymous No.7908408]

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[Anonymous No.7908561]

>>7907126
One of the best tracks in the game.

[Anonymous No.7908648]

>>7908408
twink!

[Anonymous No.7908731]

>>7907892
Nomura thinks people loved FF7 only because of emo Cloud and big gay Sephiroth and not because of the game's rich lore, themes and character development.

[Anonymous No.7908773]

>>7907892
I think that Midgar left such a big impression on everybody that it fogged their memory of the rest of the game.

[Anonymous No.7908924]

>>7908773
I hated the atmosphere of Midgar so it took me a long time to get past that part. I beat a few other FF games in between starting FF7 and getting out of Midgar.

Escaping that shit pile is a great moment, though and then the game is good and fun.

[Anonymous No.7909309]

What I want to know is, where does Cloud get his hair done?

[Anonymous No.7909798]

[Anonymous No.7909991]

>>7908157
Based

>>7908164
Nigger

>>7908731
Tetsuya Nomura killed Final Fantasy. FFVII was the best game but it was the last truly great one, everything devolved into edgy belt and zipper faggotry after that.

Simple as.

>>7908924
What exactly didn't you like about Midgar's atmosphere? Just how dark it was, no overworld?

[Anonymous No.7910021]

Played it as a kid when it came out, absolutely loved it but since there was no internet and I lived in a small town I thought it was some small game only me and a friend knew about. Never thought it would have so much impact and shitty spin offs.
Tried to play it again maybe 10 years ago but didn't enjoy it, started again last week in Japanse since I got good enough, and this time I'm addicted. Game is really good, not only nostalgia.

Also rate my battle formation.

[Anonymous No.7910350]

I always liked the way Aerith teases Cloud, it's cute.

[Anonymous No.7911279]

I just got to Jew City. Does it get any better after this? This has to be everything I hate about FF7 so far in one place.

[Anonymous No.7911807]

[Anonymous No.7911827]

>>7907126
You know shit is going down when there’s no random encounters.

[Anonymous No.7912021]

>>7909991
I know it was intentionally a hopeless, dingy place below a soulless, industrial place, but I think it was actually too effective at it. I didn't like being there.

[Anonymous No.7912129]

>>7907892
That's an arcade game in an amusement park.

[Anonymous No.7912304]

Does anybody else like the overworld models? I’ve always thought they’re cute.

[Anonymous No.7912337]

>>7912129
Costa del Sol
Mideel
Canyon Cosmo
Junon
Wutai
Kalm
Chocobo Farm
World map

All colorful places. Try again.

[Anonymous No.7912390]

>>7911279
nope. don't play this game its not for you, no one is forcing you to play a game you dont like.

[Anonymous No.7912472]

>>7907295
What I want to know is, is Cait Sith in the remake?

[Anonymous No.7913097]

>>7911279
(((shinra)))

>>7912021
Honestly I wish we could've seen more of Midgar above the plates. It would've been interesting.

[Anonymous No.7913260]

>>7912472
no, but the remake only covers until they go to leave Midgar. There's a lot of extra stuff that isn't entertaining or good. They put Red in your party but you don't get to control him or see him do anything special

[Anonymous No.7913402]

>>7913260
Didn't they prevent the sector seven plate from dropping or something like that?

[Anonymous No.7914428]

>>7908530
hewwo

[Anonymous No.7914437]

>>7913402
theres a bunch of fucking ghost faggots that are "protecting the timeline" becuase for some reason sephiroth gets a second chance. its retarded and i hate it.

[Anonymous No.7914439]

>>7911279
you should invent the time machine, so you can go back in time and kill yourself as a baby in front of your parents.

[Anonymous No.7914601]

>>7912472
Nah. Replaced by Iscar Matthias.
Cait will be utterly annihilated.

[Anonymous No.7915218]

>>7914601
That whole mod makes me question how many people enjoyed the actual FFVII and how many of them enjoyed the Advent Children interpretation of it.

[Anonymous No.7915256]

>>7909991
>Tetsuya Nomura killed Final Fantasy. FFVII was the best game but it was the last truly great one, everything devolved into edgy belt and zipper faggotry after that.
>Simple as.
Are you high, or did you never play FF9 or FF10? Both were bright and colorful, full of goofy shit and wacky characters, and were even less dark (tonally) than FF7.

[Anonymous No.7915368]

>>7915218
Do you know about the "FFVII House" incident? The FFVII fanbase is truly mind-boggling

[Anonymous No.7916117]

>>7915256
tes

[Anonymous No.7917442]

>>7915368
>Do you know about the "FFVII House" incident?
No, please indulge our morbid curiosity and make me regret asking.

[Anonymous No.7917861]

>>7917442
Basically an abusive mentally ill woman that thinks she is Jenova reincarnated IRL and her boyfriend (who is Hojo reincarnated IRL) lures a bunch of vulnerable nerds into their apartment, assigns them roles, and uses them financially. It's pretty hilarous, the Jenova in question practically never bathed and ate like a pig. She was also doing crystal healing crap and cosplay. This video goes a lot more into detail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFRjrLmc_4c

[Anonymous No.7918649]

I’ve been wondering, what happened to the real Sephiroth, the one we saw in the flashbacks? Is he dead?

[Anonymous No.7918776]

>>7918649
The one encased in Mako in the Northern Crater is the real Sephiroth.

[Anonymous No.7918789]

>>7918649
>Is he dead?
Yes.

[Anonymous No.7918808]

>>7907126

I loved exploring here as a kid, gave me a really eerie feeling. Also hype as fuck because you find meteor materia there.

[Anonymous No.7918813]

>>7918789
Pretty sure his conscious is still alive to a degree.

[Anonymous No.7919907]

>>7908408

[Anonymous No.7919929]

Anyone played New Threat Mod recently? I gave it a try a few years ago and gave up at Hojo.

[Anonymous No.7920042]

>>7907259
Hopeful optimist here. I really think they'll make it like a single level Time-Trial mini-game. I mean, Fort Condor turned into a significant part of the DLC. They made the whole dance number, squats, etc. Gotta pad out the games somehow.

>>7907295
Blame Kitase. Nomura's just a fall guy for this shit. Also so far it seems to be following original story beats based on the ending of the DLC. I mean it'd be dumb NOT to follow since the work's already there.

>>7912472
Small cameo during the part when the plate falls. Made me audibly say "what the fuck?"

[Anonymous No.7920783]

>>7919907
How does a sporty girl like her have such big fat honkers?

[Anonymous No.7921413]

[Anonymous No.7921950]

>>7920042
>Small cameo during the part when the plate falls. Made me audibly say "what the fuck?"
what a trash decision that was

[Anonymous No.7922059]

I didn't play FF7 until much later, but how was the ending received upon release?

[Anonymous No.7922108]

>>7922059

It was received after three discs

[Anonymous No.7922168]

>>7918776
>>7918813
in a way that's basically pushing forward the will of Jenova I guess
Jenova cells are Jenova cells, it's not the host
in the end, he's just a puppet

[Anonymous No.7922839]

>>7920783
All you need is the correct support.

[Anonymous No.7923212]

>>7917861
I am too smart to be a part of the Final Fantasy house, and too dumb to be a person.

[Anonymous No.7923346]

>>7922059
If I played it when it was new I would have thought that humanity was gone for the planet's good, but Advent Children rules that out.
I feel that it would fit the game's themes better for humanity be wiped out and be reincarnated as more nature-oriented beings after a long time period where the planet healed its wounds.

[Anonymous No.7923405]

Mama I'm coming home...

[Anonymous No.7923413]

>>7923346

[Anonymous No.7923695]

>>7923413
Seems like the whole “reset everything and start again” ending is common in Japanese media.

[Anonymous No.7923719]

>>7922839
i always took this to be underwear to correct a dumpy ass.
this is the first time i've considered it a bra to correct her breast-induced scoliosis

[Anonymous No.7923796]

>>7922168
>Jenova cells are Jenova cells, it's not the host
>in the end, he's just a puppet
sephiroth isn't the puppet, jenova is
jenova is just an instinctual parasite, sephiroth is exerting his will through his connection to jenova's cells

[Anonymous No.7923921]

Cid/Barret, Dio, Rufus’s appearance, there’s a good bit of musical references in this game.

[Anonymous No.7923952]

>>7923921
>Dio
speaking of dio, i was just checking out his museum in the battle arena
there is a diving suit that is labeled "Type D Equipment", which is clearly an eva reference
i suspect most of the display pieces are puns or nods to other things. does anyone else know what is being referenced?

the museum items are:
Star Cup = mario kart?
Weekend Clock = ?
Laugh Sapling = ?
Slayer's Pot = ?
Chisa's Mask = ?
D Type Equipment = eva
Zauger's Cup = ?
Calling Gourd = ?
Kleine's Pot = klein bottle

[Anonymous No.7924397]

[Anonymous No.7924484]

>>7923796
I never really got the sense that either of them was a puppet. Both of them were pursuing their own ends, which happened to coincide with one another: Sephiroth wanted to ascend to godhood and travel the stars, Jenova wanted to suck the life from the planet and move on to the next one.

[Anonymous No.7924636]

Anybody else think the name "Vincent Valentine" sounds like a member of a glam metal band?

[Anonymous No.7924807]

>>7923796
It's funny how his goals and Outlook suddenly changed coincidentally to be that which would propagate the Jenova organism.

[Anonymous No.7925071]

>>7907259

They'll skip everything left in the original game and the following DLCs will be 4 hours long aerial battles between Cloud and Sephiroth

[Anonymous No.7925078]

>>7923346

If only humanity was eradicated we would have been spared the endless pile of garbage spinoffs

[Anonymous No.7925120]

It's funny how the original game is the odd man out among its universe.
And it's the only thing that feels like a Final Fantasy game.
Also, Jenova is Lavos' lil sister.

[Anonymous No.7925598]

>>7924636
It's probably a reference to the shoegaze band "My Bloody Valentine" and their 1991 album "Loveless"
"Loveless" appears as an epic poem in the game and there are posters titled My Bloody Valentine. The staff must have liked it back then. It's still a popular album, even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcOhXThqh_0

[Anonymous No.7925785]

As a kid my favorite thing was how the whole game was like a mashup of a bunch of popular anime and manga from the time. Everyone knows about the Eva references, but it always reminded me of Iria a lot for some reason too. I saw the original live action Zeiram movies years later and the actress playing Iria kinda looks like Tifa cosplaying Vincent, so maybe I wasn't too far off.

[Anonymous No.7925876]

>>7925120
felt like I was the only one that noticed the recycling of lavos "word eater" = jenova. Surprised they didn't let you choose to kill or recruit sephiroth

[Anonymous No.7926023]

>>7917861

[Anonymous No.7926049]

>>7925876
The "world eater" alien thing isn't the only connection. Augmenting human power with the alien's power is another trait.
Still, I love both games to death. The gameplay and other stuff really shine on CT and VII

[Anonymous No.7926170]

Cloud's mom is cute.

[Anonymous No.7926464]

I find it weird how there isn't as much lovey-dovey art of Tifa and Cloud as there is of Aerith and Cloud.

[Anonymous No.7926490]

>>7914439
Holy fuck lol

[Anonymous No.7926523]

>>7926170
sutorausu = strife?

[Anonymous No.7926560]

>>7914439

Giga based

[Anonymous No.7926848]

>>7924807
Wow, it's almost like he play the game, retard!

[Anonymous No.7926952]

>>7926848
Majority of people who have actually played FF7 come to the Jenova conclusion, only those who go by dev statements and all the terrible bullshit released afterward think Sephiroth's will was stronger.

[Anonymous No.7927023]

>>7926952
The OG game straight up tells you that Sephiroth is in control, and all the evidence throughout the game lines up with that explanation. Plus, if you pay attention to his actions throughout the story, they’re clearly driven by a human ego, not an incomprehensible alien instinct. It also makes far more sense thematically for Sephiroth to be the villain due to what he represents both for Cloud personally as well as for the game’s environmentalist motifs.

Ironically the only real evidence that Sephiroth is somehow acting in accordance with Jenova’s will and not the other way around is in Advent Children, where he says he wants to sail through space just like she did. There’s nothing like that in the original game

[Anonymous No.7927503]

So who came and got Jenova out of that containment tank? One of those hooded clones that was roaming around Nibelheim?

[Anonymous No.7928630]

>>7927503
Sephiroth. Consider these key points:
>Barret points out that Jenova is missing its head
>Sephiroth left the Nibel reactor carrying Jenova's head
>the "Sephiroth" on the cargo ship turns into Jenova BIRTH and leaves behind a writhing piece of Jenova when defeated
Sephiroth's connection to Jenova allows him to project himself through severed parts of her body. Jenova was freed from Shinra HQ by Sephiroth manifesting through the biomass of her head.

[Anonymous No.7928679]

>>7926170
Was she originally called Claudia or was that just the Remake team being fanfic tier?

[Anonymous No.7928685]

>>7923921
>>7923952
>Dio
Do all the newfag zoomer LPers beat the exact same dead horse when they get to this point in the game?

[Anonymous No.7929145]

Yuffie strikes me as the kind of girl who would start groping her friend’s tits when she gets drunk.

[Anonymous No.7929847]

In the fields of bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning

[Anonymous No.7929876]

>>7905938
This is my least favorite part of the game. Just feels...forced and not fun.

[Anonymous No.7929891]

>>7927023
The character's in-universe thinking is only their explanation of what is happening, not what is actually happening.
>dutiful soldier
>meets his 'mother'
>does a 180 in personality
>burns down the town
>falls into the lifestream and dies

>It also makes far more sense thematically for Sephiroth to be the villain due to what he represents both for Cloud personally as well as for the game’s environmentalist motifs.
The final Sephiroth is the one in his head. Him killing that Sephiroth is Cloud cutting the final strings that had him psychologically a puppet.
Sephiroth is the villain not because he's a mastermind in torturing Cloud (he had no idea who Cloud was for the most part during his life before), but because both were made into puppets.

[Anonymous No.7929913]

>>7926952
>Headcanonfags even manipulating reality
Such a tired fucking autistic argument.

[Anonymous No.7930040]

>>7925785
I don't see it mentioned very often, but Midgar is right out of Gunnm/Battle Angel Alita too. It's basically the same deal as the Scrapyard with Tiphares suspended above it. The boss you fight during the escape is even named Motorball, just like the sport in the manga.

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[Anonymous No.7932261]

Anybody else find satisfaction in just wandering around and grinding? It makes boss battles much easier to get through.

[Anonymous No.7932270]

>>7932261
The bosses in FF7 aren't exactly hard to begin with.

[Anonymous No.7932275]

>>7932261
That's how rpgs are supposed to be like, you gain more fun attacks as a reward for exploring. But everyone on 4chan is an autist obsessed with tier lists and minmaxing.

[Anonymous No.7933191]

I feel like the second Square drifted away from the more anime-like designs, they lost their heart.

[Anonymous No.7934158]

I think VII might be the most ethereal game in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMvHTlWyxH0

[Anonymous No.7935621]

[Anonymous No.7935625]

>>7933191
As soon as FF10 came out they lost their heart.

[Anonymous No.7936339]

Who'd you get on your date?

[Anonymous No.7936371]

>>7936339
It was always Aerith for me, I used her in battle as much as I could which was probably why.

[Anonymous No.7936384]

>>7936339
Aerith of course, she's the "default" choice unless you jump through hoops

[Anonymous No.7936392]

>>7935621
I played crisis core this never fucking happens!

[Anonymous No.7936452]

>>7932261
t. VeghEsther

[Anonymous No.7936741]

>>7923952
>there is a diving suit that is labeled "Type D Equipment", which is clearly an eva reference


Or more realistically, the D stands for Diving. Calling Gourd could be a pun (calling card).

[Anonymous No.7936861]

>>7932261
Yup. Back when I replayed Final Fantasy VII on almost a yearly basis I always got to Temple of the Ancients (where the party first interacts with Sephiroth) at Level 50. This was to mirror Nibelheim's flashback so the party matched Sephiroth's strength. Fun to do and it didn't take too long with the Junon alarm trick.

[Anonymous No.7937070]

>>7922059
I was the first to beat the game on my college campus. There were twenty or more people in my dorm room when someone went out in the hall to tell everyone I was about to beat it. The Sephiroth/Cloud stand-off at the end was incredible. Everyone ooh'd and ahhh'd, especially when I was given back control of Cloud to do the finishing move. The meteor/lifestream thing, not so much. It was pretty to look at, but some people got confused and others thought it was a Deus X Machina type of thing. Everyone but a few friends left after that. The four or five of us left in the room saw the Red XIII ending after the credits. IT WAS PURE AWESOMENESS.

[Anonymous No.7937076]

Never noticed until now, but he's got earrings on.

[Anonymous No.7937869]

Tifa SMASH!

[Anonymous No.7938432]

Is the location of the Lunar Harp randomized, or is it in a specific place?

[Anonymous No.7938953]

>>7934158
Why?

[Anonymous No.7938961]

>>7919907
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.7939321]

[Anonymous No.7940061]

>>7905702
I just want to say, I tried to play the remake and could not get through it after a certain point, t just felt like watching a movie and made me feel actually sleepy. Then everyone I know IRL was loving it I felt so out of place for being still "hung up" on the original. Finding this thread made me finally feel like I wasn't wrong for still liking it more. Everybody shits on it because of the graphics but I kinda like them still.
Hope mentioning the remake is OK... I will do a replay of the original thanks to this thread soon. Miss the music and snappy dialog a lot.

[Anonymous No.7940082]

>>7937070
That sounds great. I chreish people like you who show off this stuff to others and get them interested.
I had the experience of watching my older brother beat it first, in a little room where me and many of my other siblings were sitting on a bed with blankets, watching. He shut the lights off for the final fight and we watched it like a movie on a tiny monitor. One of my fondest memories, definitely the reason I played it myself later when I learned to read.
>>7922059
As far as I've seen, there were people who liked the ending because the losses suffered by Cloud (Aeris dying) wasn't reversed, and the distant future ending was open to interpretation and they liked that since they could lean on a darker interpretation of their own choice (humanity's perished for example) or a brighter one. I don't know how much the future derivative works changed that though.

[Anonymous No.7940090]

i want an ffvii sequel 500 years after the ending

[Anonymous No.7940124]

>Nanaki will never see his comrades ever again since they died a little over five hundred years ago.
I wonder how each and everyone of them died. maybe humanity went extinct like bugenhagen said.

[Anonymous No.7940472]

[Anonymous No.7940935]

Hey look, it's David Bowie.

[Anonymous No.7941159]

>>7940061
Holy fuck, I relate so hard to everything you said.
I got to wall market and felt like I'd seen plenty to know I wasn't going to like it any more as I went on, and everyone I've spoken to about remake has tried to make out that I'm a tasteless faggot for not being absolutely smitten with it. It felt like a doujin with the "rewrite" tag. All the key moments were there, but all the impact was lost in the absolute bullshit spun around them. FF7 needed none of that. I have no fucking idea why Nomura felt like he had to rub his taint all over an immaculate story.

[Anonymous No.7941494]

[Anonymous No.7941514]

>>7936339
I think I got Tifa first, then I tried for Yuffie each time subsequently.

[Anonymous No.7941685]

wish there was a mod hack where you play as the turks in place of cloud's team.
Rufus,Rude,Reno,Reeves,Elena,Tseng, and Vincent Valentine. only problem is, Tseng doesn't fight.

[Anonymous No.7941753]

>>7941514
Why would you ever want to go on a date with Yuffie? She’d steal your GP!

[Anonymous No.7942590]

>>7941685
Fuck you, here's Before Crisis.

[Anonymous No.7942792]

>>7940935
Rufus, Turks, Sephiroth, Shinra HQ raid... Easily the best parts of the game. I wonder how the game would have been if it was only contained in Midgar, or if the whole world was like Midgar. Really wanted to see some more sci fi in it

[Anonymous No.7942989]

Aerith's death really is a shame in the long run, Her healing limit breaks really came in handy.

[Anonymous No.7943127]

>>7941753
Perhaps the same could be said of all roasties.

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[Anonymous No.7944418]

If Cloud was never in SOLDIER, how’d he get the uniform?
Also do threads auto sage after two weeks on this board?

[Anonymous No.7944614]

>>7944418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PD-xq1k6MQ

[Anonymous No.7945265]

>>7938961