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I'm going to play doom 1 for the first time today, more specifically the ultimate doom on steam
what should I know / install / whatever before playing?
inb4 faggots call me a zoomer for never having played doom

>> No.7885918 [DELETED] 

>>7885902
play brutal doom

>> No.7885929 [DELETED] 
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7885929

>>7885918

>> No.7885943

>>7885902
download crispydoom or prboom+
dont jump straight into ultraviolence because fome faggot eceleb told you to
have fun

>> No.7885947

>>7885902
Dont install anything, just play vanilla. Play on ultraviolence. Thats it.

>> No.7885949
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>>7885902
Just sit down and play it, you donut. Have fun shooting the demons and don't feel obligated to play on Ultra Violence. After you beat that, play Doom 2.
I don't know if you can just play the Ultimate Doom straight from Steam or not, but if it needs a sourceport or some shit you should try crispy or PRboom+ for a more traditional Doom experience.

Once you're done with Doom 1 and 2, if you want you can dive into the rabbit hole that is Doom modding. You'll need GZDoom for that, make sure to turn off texture filtering.

>> No.7885957

>>7885902
Play vanilla first don't listen to any fags that recommend mods or wads

>> No.7885969

>>7885957
not even mega man? :(

>> No.7886050

Know that the quality dips off incredibly hard after episode 1, then go find some good wads to play instead.

>> No.7886058

>>7885902
prboom+ is the source port with the best mix between modernity and staying true to the original
gzdoom is what you have you have to use for most mods. it has cringe settings on by default like jumping turned on.
you have absolutely no reason to subject yourself to dosbox doom when a million different source ports are trivially easy to install
>>7885918
>>7885947
faggot retards

>> No.7886079

>>7885902
>he's going to pay for Doom (1993)

>> No.7886085
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>>7885902
just pirate it you fucking retarded zoomer
>zoomer for never having played doom
yes, but the worst offence is paying and giving money to bethesda, which is now just microsoft

>> No.7886206

>>7886079
>>7886085
I'm not going to pirate something that's five dollars. If it's fairly priced, in my region, and doesn't fuck the customer over directly, i couldn't care less about who gets my money.

>> No.7886213

>>7886206
>i couldn't care less about who gets my money
Give me your money then

>> No.7886224
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>>7886206

>> No.7886232

>>7886206
The source code was released to the public by carmack. It's not piracy

>> No.7886235

>>7886232
Game engine is free to use assets aren't, its still piracy, but who gives a shit.

>> No.7886240

Is Doom intended to be played with M+KB or just keyboard?

>> No.7886245

>>7886240
Joystick only

>> No.7886806

>>7886240
doom has always had mouse support.

>> No.7887018

>>7886206
All of id software assets fall under (((ZeniMax))) and therefor (((Bethesda))), other than those 2 kike companies none of the original Doom devs get a dime. You're making the powerful rich even richer.

>> No.7887116

>>7885943
>>7885949
How much better is CrispyDoom compared to Chocolate Doom? I've been using Chocolate for years mainly because I don't tend to use mods or other wads all that much. I'll probably switch to Crispy if it's just Chocolate but better.

>> No.7887162

Best way to play doom is on a 468 with a Diamond VLB graphics card and SoundBlaster ISA card with a Roland SC-55MKII.

If you can't do that then the next best thing is to play unmodded Doom for a while and then switch over to Doom II before you try anything else so you get a real feel for what the games really are. Play on Ultra-violence or the difficulty under that one. And easier and the game isn't really Doom anymore. Then when you got your toes wet play with the mods.

>> No.7887486

>>7887116
they're pretty much the same except crispy doom isn't capped at 35fps and runs at a slightly higher resolution, plus some other features

>> No.7887529

>>7886058
The Steam version of Doom uses Unity and plays fine you fucking idiot, do you think someone who's never played Doom before is going to appreciate what PR or GZ offer?

>> No.7887582

>>7885943
IMO UV is perfectly fine for newcomers when it comes to Doom 1, as its absurdly easy on lower skills.
Doom 2 and Final Doom can be a bit more challenging though, so HMP or lower is fine here.

>> No.7887694

In all my years of hearing about Doom, I'm surprised I've never heard anyone make light of the fact that Doomguy can snipe with a shotgun and hit enemies at any elevation by firing straight in front of him
A shame that the game becomes basically unplayable if you die. That's the only problem I have with it so far other than the mandatory damage at the beginning of level 5 (you're forced to walk over a poison river)

>> No.7889351

>>7886213
>>7886224
>>7886232
>>7886235
>>7887018
I think that it's not worth buying Doom on PC, because sourceports give you widely superior options. However, if you're a console only pleb, the new official ports are actually really good, they're the most complete and authentic ports of Doom and Doom 2 to consoles ever, and they do give you a bunch of curated levelsets for free.

>> No.7889359

>>7887694
>I'm surprised I've never heard anyone make light of the fact that Doomguy can snipe with a shotgun
That's a normal tactic, Doom's shotgun has a fairly realistic range, even.

>and hit enemies at any elevation by firing straight in front of him
Not quite, Doom has no vertical mouselook, so the game compensates for this by adjusting your aim vertically to hit monsters above and below, but this auto-aim has a limited range, and only works on monsters in your direct field of view.

>> No.7889370

>>7885949
Doom 1 is seriously easy on UV, if you have any kind of experience with first person shooters you shouldn't really struggle.
Episode 4 of Doom 1 goes pretty fucking hard on UV, at least for the first few levels, so I would suggest a beginner play on HMP or maybe even lower instead.

>>7886240
The standard way is horizontal mouseturning (no vertical mouselook), with a vertical auto-aim and using the keyboard. This is how the devs played.
Doom was really built to be playable in lots of ways, you can use a flight stick or gamepad, hell, gamepad actually works pretty well with enough buttons and suitable bindings. It's also possible to play keyboard only, which was nice because people with 386 computers tended to not have enough memory to run both Doom and mouse drivers at the same time.

>> No.7889418

>>7887018
Kevin Cloud and Donna Jackson still work there, actually, and Tim Willits left a while back, so you don't give him any money anymore, which is great.

>>7887116
Crispy Doom is Chocolate Doom with a bunch of optional bonus features.

>more resolution options
>more levels to the gamma gradient
>can be set to widescreen
>can correct the color for the bloodsplatter on some enemies, so Cacos spurt blue blood fitting to their sprite, instead of red, likewise Barons bleed green
>can randomly mirror death animations/corpses (basically makes a large group of similar corpses look less samey)
>no visplane limits or other static limits, not applicable in Doom and Doom 2 really, but very much in Final Doom and custom mapsets
>can use a minimalist HUD which shows more of the screen
>can use a crosshair
>can use improved collision detection to let you walk underneath a flying enemy above you, or run down a ledge and over the head of an enemy below you (not true to vanilla, but this is one of the limitations which I don't feel bad about fixing)

You can also turn on full mouselook and jumping, but if you're looking for a Vanilla(ish) experience then you obviously won't. Has a bunch of other features.

>> No.7889423 [DELETED] 

>>7885902
Download, install, play brutal doom and make the elitist chuds to seethe

>> No.7889801

>>7887529
>the steam version of doom uses unity
it uses dosbox
>and plays fine
also wrong. the fact that you go forwards and backwards when you move the mouse vertically is reason enough to spend the minimal amount of time required to install prboom+
>do you think someone who's never played Doom before is going to appreciate what PR or GZ offer
obviously they are going to appreciate playing in widescreen 1080p at a normal framerate with mouselook that isn't retarded
I never suggested they play in gzdoom so no idea why you brought that up

of the anons I have interacted with the last couple months, you are one of the dumber ones.

>> No.7889887

>>7889801
Bethesda ported the Official Console Source Ports to PC, which run of Unity, and has native 1080p, widescreen, ordinary mouse and keyboard controls, controller support, and so on.
Slag.

>> No.7889889

>>7889887
*on Unity

>> No.7890001

>>7889801
You get the new Unity ports with Steam now, and you can get them for free if you already bought Doom on Steam. If you were dumb enough to pay for Doom, they're pretty good ports, all in all.

>> No.7891529

Doom Retro is objectively superior to Chocolate Doom. Had a go on it today and I’m blown away

>> No.7891606

I only played Doom for the first time in 2018. Not a big deal.

Use a source port and make sure to turn off free aim/freelook and jumping/crouching. Sometimes that's ok by default. The original didn't have that.

>> No.7891617

>>7889418
Can I get blood fix in gzdoom? There's gotta be a mod for that?

>> No.7891636

Get Beautiful Doom.
It makes the animations, beautiful. No gameplay vanilla changes.

>> No.7891648

First time? Don't. These games aged terribly for someone without nostalgia goggles.

>> No.7891673

>>7891617
There's a lot of mods which do that.

>>7891648
Nigger.

>> No.7892292 [DELETED] 

>>7891636
Beautiful Doom is for faggots

>> No.7893314

>>7885902
use GZdoom
>>7889351
agreed,though source-ports decimate any official version,the new port is really good by console standards.

>> No.7893317

>>7891529
its probably the best faithful source-port
my only small complaint is that they only tell you in fine print that it works on Linux and mac naively for some reason

>> No.7893324

>>7885969
especially not megaman you doomseeker server browser flooding shitter, i hate you mm8bdm fags and i have to filter your shitty mod so i can find actual doom servers when i have the deathmatch itch

>> No.7893364

>>7893314
GzDoom is great, but I think it's very much worth to experience the game without its bells and whistles, because you can appreciate what the base game actually did, as well as the things GzDoom lets you do.

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7893371

>>7893324

>> No.7893376

>>7893371
zdaemon numba wan

>> No.7893443

>>7893364
thats fair,im a sucker for Vulcan (loonix fag) and mods like smooth doom.

>> No.7894806

>>7891529
Doom Retro is a broken mess, I'm telling this as someone who used to be a huge fan of it. Brad keeps adding/changing unnecessary little things but not the important ones. It took years for blockmap bug fix and widescreen support (which was broken at first with terrible framerate and floors leaking everywhere). There were still some Boom-related crashes last time I played.
Just use PrBoom or DSDA if you want faithful MBF-compatible experience.

>> No.7894816

Just play on Ultra Violence. It's really not a difficult game.

>> No.7894867

>>7894816
Pretty much true, but it'll vary.

>E1, E2, E3
Not hard at all, there's like, maybe one or two rude ambushes which can get you, but it's not like you can't load a save, or like the levels can't be beaten pistol start if you fucked up. If you have any kind of experience with first person shooters, you'll be able to do this just fine on UV.

>E4
Added for the retail re-release. First three levels twists your pair and pulls, but lets up quite a lot afterwards. I would not suggest a first timer to play this one on UV.

>Doom 2
Harder than the original, but not significantly. There's new monsters and more complex levels. If you could do the original three episodes UV, you shouldn't have much trouble with Doom 2 on UV.

>TNT
Harder than Doom 2, but not massively so, uses zombies a lot, so you'll git gud at handling them.

>Plutonia
A lot harder than Doom 2, the design philosophy was that they'd make the levels harder if they felt the levels were too easy for them to beat. If you're not up for its tricks and traps, consider playing it on HMP first, then giving it a run on UV.

>Sigil
Mildly merciless on UV. Imagine if E4 continued to be balls hard for its entirety.

>> No.7895094

>>7891636
Some of the animations lose some of their punch with the additional frames.

>> No.7895097

>>7894867
Doom 2 is only "harder" than Doom 1 because the level design is hot garbage.

>> No.7895180

>>7895097
pleb

>> No.7895185 [DELETED] 

>>7895180
Doom 2 is a pisswalk. The levels are just tedious and/or shit.
>but muh SSG
Redditor.

>> No.7895207 [DELETED] 

>>7895185
Thinking Doom 1 is better is the reddit opinion my friend.

>> No.7895218 [DELETED] 

>>7895207
Literally every reddit nog out there praises Doom because of the SSG and Revenants, which are exclusive to Doom 2, so you're shit out of luck, faggot.

>> No.7895249

>>7885902
After beating vanilla Doom 1, try GZDoom with SmoothDoom, perkristian sfx, and an SC-55 music pack. You won't be able to go back.

>> No.7895937

>>7895249

Make some links faggot

>> No.7896508

What about Brutal Doom?

>> No.7896539

>>7891648
Nigger.

>> No.7896543

>>7896508
Don't even bother. That shit sucks.

>> No.7896648

>>7886206
>i'm not going to pirate something

that is why you fail

>> No.7896692

>>7896508
its fun for about 10 minutes. it just adds blood, new gun sounds and looks, and some animations are changed. og is still more interesting.

>> No.7896696

is there a way to apply smooth doom to everything i play through gz doom?

>> No.7896701

>>7886058
/thread

Based PRBoom+ user

>> No.7896845

Just played through all three original episodes again last week. Great game for sure, but fuck me does some of the music past episode 1 just suck dick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETV9fPmieOM

Just running around a level for 30 minutes looking for the exit or key while listening to shit like this can be excruciating.