/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7869915]

Is this game playable outside the snes mini? Is there a rom that can play in emulators?

[Anonymous No.7869929]

>>7869915
have you tried google?

[Anonymous No.7869998]

>>7869915
LMAO, where have you been? A semi-finished build was leaked as early as 2002, and the SNES classic version was dumped almost immediately.
Other builds were also discovered with the 2020 Gigaleak including the The Winter CES one.

[Anonymous No.7870008]

No, the game has a chip inside that checks the serial number of the SNES.
It was made specifically to prevent the ROM leaking, you can't play it even on the real SNES, which is kind of scummy and a reason that not many people are talking about the game.
I think there was a project to ROM hack it, but it got shut down by Nintendo pretty fast.
Basically, all you can do is buy SNES mini to play this game.
Every gameplaye video of the game is from SNES mini, even the ones that predate SNES mini.

[Anonymous No.7870045]

>>7870008
Based.

[Anonymous No.7870103]

>>7870008

I'd rather play Silpheed anyway

[Anonymous No.7870179]

You can overclock the SuperFX chip in emulators by the way. It smooths out the framerate and makes the game even better than it is.

[Anonymous No.7870351]

>>7870179
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6fUM3qrwOk

[Anonymous No.7870512]

>>7870008
>TASVideos unironically believes this when're they gonna replace their shitty prototype run graaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.7871261]

>>7870008
This is a troll. The prototype has been playable on real hardware for many years by replacing the ROM in a SFX cartridge. The final version from the SNES has also been put on real SFX carts and the SD2SNES without any issues

[Anonymous No.7871409]

>>7869915
Yes but its not a good game so why bother

[Anonymous No.7871752]

>>7869915
There's a star fox 2?

[Anonymous No.7871964]

>>7871261
>facetious comedy is trolling
You can't be autistic because an autist's laser detail sense would catch the deliberate contradiction at the end and see no opening for ambiguity, so my diagnosis is fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.7872634]

>>7869915
Let's turn this thread into something less stupid. Ask an SNES Star Fox 1+2 expert literally anything about the games.

[Anonymous No.7872684]

>>7872634
>Ask an SNES Star Fox 1+2 expert literally anything about the games.

Which panties would have the best smell?

[Anonymous No.7872773]

>>7872684
qrd on the options again? I cannot recall any female characters in Star Fox...

[Anonymous No.7873201]

>>7872634
>lets make thread less stupid
Thats not possible when you're posting

[Anonymous No.7873242]

>>7869915
As cool as it is to have this on the SNES mini, it's not really worth the effort to play it on an emulator because it's not that great of a game, I find myself playing other games that weren't included with the mini.

[Anonymous No.7873348]

>>7872634
Is it optimal to kill your allies ever?

[Anonymous No.7873384]

>>7873348
Actually, yes.
In the first game's ground Venom stages, your allies have a tendency to shoot the blue falling towers and have them collapse in your direction. This can obviously be avoided by letting the enemies kill the allies, as unlike in 64 your shots can't damage your wingmen.

[Anonymous No.7873461]

Here you go:
https://www.filemail.com/d/dkkachcvaibmytj

[Anonymous No.7873817]

>>7870179
>>7870351
Doesn't this just speed the game up? Its not like you're getting more frames, its just playing the game faster than intended

[Anonymous No.7873818]

Shit game, kill yourselves furfag shmup niggers

[Anonymous No.7873831]

>>7873817
I would work if they didn’t make it to compensate the slowdown

[Anonymous No.7874126]

>>7871752
Star Fox 2 was finished but canceled on the SNES (in hindsight, for no good reason). Various in-development builds got leaked but the final game was eventually officially released on the SNES Classic/Mini and then Nintendo Switch Online. It has a lot of elements that internally inspired later games.
>>7873384
Doesn't this affect your score though?

[Anonymous No.7874243]

>>7873817
Absolutely. I never got the appeal of overclocking Star Fox, it messes with the timing pretty badly. I wish Nintendo would just put the game in a modern engine though, there was a tease of what that might feel like in the WarioWare for Wii. Just remaster 1&2 as eShop titles, they had the capability since at least 3DS.

[Anonymous No.7874630]

>>7873817
No, overclocking the SuperFX just smooths the framerate, it's not playing the game on fast forward. The game's timing is coming from the SNES's processor and not the SuperFX. The fact that it uses this chip is the only reason it works for these games to do this. Strictly makes the game playably smooth except in points where the slowdown is causing literal timing lag for the console, in which case the game may become very very slightly faster.

[Anonymous No.7874664]

>>7874630
Every overclock attempt I've seen always makes the intro out of sync with the music/effects and I just don't have the stomach to subject myself to any more after than since I know it'll just go downhill in gameplay. I know kids are likelier to emulate it rather than play on real hardware but the damage is real.

[Anonymous No.7874672]

there's a standalone on the switch for the super nes online service thingy

[Anonymous No.7874730]

>>7874126
>Doesn't this affect your score though?
Yes it does.

[Anonymous No.7874732]

>>7874664
So you didn't try it at all and want to judge it anyway, good show lad. Enjoy playing a game as a strict downgrade of what it can be I guess, because that's all you're doing to yourself.

[Anonymous No.7874834]

>>7874732
Show me an overclock that fulfills my criteria.

[Anonymous No.7874851]

>>7874630
Yeah from firsthand experience this is just lying.
>>7874732
>Enjoy playing a game as intentionally designed.
The absolute state of emufags.

[Anonymous No.7874870]

>>7874851Not an argument. If the game was intentionally designed to be shit then its fucking shit and it running slow is not a positive. If you can make it run smoother with no hinderance then running it slow intentionally is moronic.

[Anonymous No.7874941]

>>7874243
>Just remaster 1&2 as eShop titles
We almost got that from Ben Carter for Star Fox 1 on the 3DS but Nintendo said no.

[Anonymous No.7874979]

Overclocking speeds the game up too much to the point where it doesn't play quite right. It's likely that Vitor Viela will probably "fix" the game with a rewrite at some point down the road once he gets bored of writing shit for SA-1. He's hinted at it extensively on his Twitter.

[Anonymous No.7874983]

>>7874870
If you can make it run smoother with no hinderance
When are you gonna prove this when every overclock DOES hinder something? Like goddamn, didn't the source code leak in the gigastuff? You'd do a better job convincing us if you can say the game had an optimized recompilation instead of just pretending that overclocking does miracles.
>>7874870
>If the game was intentionally designed to be shit then its fucking shit
...Oh well. I guess it wasn't for you all along then.

[Anonymous No.7875027]

>>7870008
>all you can do is buy SNES mini to play this game
Actually, it's available on Switch online.

[Anonymous No.7876064]

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[Anonymous No.7876120]

What happens if you solder an SFX2 chip in place of the standard SFX? What happens if you do this on a donor cart for Star Fox 2?

[Anonymous No.7877147]

>>7871964
>facetious comedy masquerading as an attempt to stop players from seeking more info about playing a game

I mean if you want to assist Nintendo in selling more SNES Classic machines or whatever it is called just say that. But ok - haha.

[Anonymous No.7877160]

>>7874941
Jesus, Nintendo is so bad a remastering games. They don’t like to put actual work and improvement into it.

[Anonymous No.7877181]

>>7877147
>But ok - haha.

[Anonymous No.7877319]

>>7869915
It's on switch too you dingus

[Anonymous No.7878734]

[Anonymous No.7880116]

>>7874941
I think they turned it down because the SNES Star Fox games were in legal limbo at the time. Seeing as how those issues have been resolved, he should pitch it again on the Switch.

[Anonymous No.7880347]

>>7876120
Nothing, because there is no point to this. They can both run at 21mhz. starfox 2 runs in the 21mhz mode.

[Anonymous No.7881541]

Fay is SUCH a good dog...but the thread must know that Miyu is a nice cat too.

[Anonymous No.7882395]

>>7881541
They're a combo pack. You can't get one without the other. With that being said, they're both top tier characters.

[Anonymous No.7883291]

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[Anonymous No.7883650]

>>7882395
>Miyu should be the somewhat stocky yet "stacked" one, and Fay should be the tall one.
Why's it so hard to find on-model artwork of them despite the surge they had since the official release?

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[Anonymous No.7887679]

>>7883650
Because the only person to draw them officially was Imamura once and he now is retired from Nintendo. Unless Nintendo still gives a damn about them don't expect more art

[Anonymous No.7889460]

I'm still waiting for someone to make a hack of the various Gigaleak prototypes to polish them to the best they can be. They had some ideas that I wish were still in the final game, such as Andross re-claiming planets.

[Anonymous No.7890660]

I always preferred fay over miyu but I'm a but surprised seeing a lot more attention put on her than miyu lately. Probably due to miyu and katt being identical characters

[Anonymous No.7891965]

>>7890660
Both girls deserve love. I think Fay's rise in popularity is thanks to SF2 being rereleased on the Switch SNES online app.

[Anonymous No.7893961]

[Anonymous No.7894006]

>>7872634
Are the enemies in 2 piloted by the Venom lizard people like in the first game and the comic, or are they robots?

[Anonymous No.7895473]

>>7894006
I... don't think it's ever mentioned or shown. Spriter's Resource doesn't seem to have textures for them in SF2 from what I can see.
Then again, I'm not really one to look at the background fluff while playing.

[Anonymous No.7896294]

>>7894006
>>7895473
This probably would have been mentioned in the manual had the game been released back in the day. The digital manual for the SNES Mini version neglects to mention, and I swear it has the Star Wolf profiles out of order. It might've been mentioned in a preliminary story in some magazine though.
Speaking of magazines, I could've sworn one of them gave the Arwings designations that imply last names for Miyu and Fay. TCRF's pre-release page shows that late 1994/early 1995 build gives "PH-001" for Peppy Hare's ship, "FM-001" for Fox McCloud's ship, and "MW-001" for Miyu's ship, suggesting her last name began with W (it's not "Lynx" like some fansites claim). I recall a magazine also used these Arwing designations plus one for Fay.

[Anonymous No.7896321]

>>7872634
So like, you know how Krystal (and to a lesser extent, Fara, though she was never an official Star Fox member) and Amanda were love interests for Fox and Slippy, respectively? You think Miyu and Fay were supposed to hook up with other Star Fox members? Considering Katt wears Miyu's earring in Star Fox Zero, implying she evolved from Miyu. This also implies that Fay evolved into Bill...

[Anonymous No.7896493]

>>7896294
Found it. It's a third-party source, but I presume they referenced Nintendo materials since it sort of lines up. Thing is, it looks like there's a typo with Falco, Peppy and Slippy's Arwing designations. I'm gonna assume that Fay is correct since Fox and Miyu are a match and the writer probably just confused Falco with Fay. If true, this means that Fay's last name started with O. My theory if that Miyu and Fay's last names were like McCloud and Lombardi and not their species like Toad and Hare. Maybe you can twist Miyu W. into Miyu Wyld, as in Meow Wildcat, or something similar (given Peppy and Slippy resemble a rabbit and frog more than a hare and toad)? And maybe, possibly, Fay O. was Fay O'Donnell or even Fay Oikonny, before it was repurposed for Star Wolf?
>>7872634
I got one for you - is "Astropolis" an official name or a fan one (I'd consider the Aeon Genesis proto fan-translation the latter)? I played the retail version of Star Fox 2 multiple times and don't recall the name of Andross' space base ever showing up, so I don't know where the wikis are sourcing this information.

[Anonymous No.7897172]

>>7896321
If we're judging purely by the SNES timeline (AKA no Krystal or Amanda), love interests weren't really a thing outside of Fara for Fox. Even then, she was exclusive to the Nintendo Power comics and she was seemingly replaced by Fay, seeing as how they have strikingly similar backstories. Perhaps if the game released back in '96 the canines would have fucked, but that's just speculation.

>>7896294
In the CES prototype of SF2, Miyu's Arwing is codenamed "MW-001" and Fay's is codenamed "FO-001". This hints that their last names originally started with a W and an O respectively. With that being said, Dylan Cuthburt remembers calling them "Miyu Swift" and "Fay Sinclair" during development.

>>7896493
If you beat the game on expert difficulty, the model for Astropolis with the name "Astropolis" at the top appears during the enemy role call in the credits.

[Anonymous No.7897642]

>>7896493
>Fay O. was Fay O'Donnell or even Fay Oikonny, before it was repurposed for Star Wolf?
I can believe O'Donnell (they're both canines even). Oikonny is a corrupted wordplay on "oink", and while you may think this may be more appropriate for Pigma over Dengar, there's actually a purpose to this that makes it too deliberate to Andrew. You see, it's a reference to the Andross' heritage in the Nintendo Power comic, where he was raised by (I shit you not) android pigs, and had an android pig assistant of his own named Herbert. Yep.
>>7897172
>Dylan Cuthburt remembers calling them "Miyu Swift" and "Fay Sinclair" during development.
Wait, what? I thought he didn't remember.

[Anonymous No.7898010]

>>7872634
If Wolf is Star Wolf, does that mean Fox is Star Fox?

[Anonymous No.7898589]

>>7898010
Wolf says that line no matter who you're playing as (for example, in your pic you're playing as Fay). I think Wolf is referring to your group as a whole with that line, with "Star Wolf" referring to his. Alternatively it could be a mistranslation, but I don't speak Japanese so I couldn't tell you...

[Anonymous No.7898652]

>>7898010
No.

Wolf's full name is Wolf O'Donnell

Fox's full name is Fox McCloud

[Anonymous No.7899312]

>>7877147
jesus christ don't they put kids this retarded in summer school

[Anonymous No.7899426]

>>7898589
>>7898652
Here's what's up: in the official translation, the team isn't really called "Star Wolf" in the game, but rather "the Star Wolf wing". When "Cap'n Wolf" refers to himself as "Star Wolf", it's within the context of the team being HIS wing. In the Japanese version, he literally calls himself "this Wolf" in that line, which is a bit stilted in English so it's understandable that they'd change it to something that suitably sounds arrogant. I have no explanation as to why he's called Star Wolf in Smash Bros. dialog though.

[Anonymous No.7899508]

>>7872634
What does changing the weather on that one planet in SF1 actually do?

What are the best small secrets in the games?

>>7874730
For better or worse?

[Anonymous No.7900521]

>>7899508
>What does changing the weather on that one planet in SF1 actually do?
Allow you to proceed with the level. It's mandatory to beat Titania, otherwise you loop forever.

>What are the best small secrets in the games?
In SF2, if you keep flying out of bounds on a planet surface, eventually your wingman will ask what the hell you're doing and begin to guide you back. I've never seen anyone else online mention this.

>For better or worse?
For worse. Having your teammates alive means that more enemies are being shot at, adding to your score.

[Anonymous No.7901039]

>>7869915
There's a rom of the SNES Mini version floating around so you don't have to settle for Ghideon Zhi's crapshoot prototype release anymore, just check the usual website starts with V but isn't an imageboard. It even works just fine on SD2SNES Pro, which is how I have it running.
A shame that Nintendo never released it when the SNES was still alive and kicking though, I know it would never sell enough to recoup the manufacturing costs but it would have been a great choice to use as a SNES Jr. pack-in title instead of Yoshi's Island.

[Anonymous No.7901045]

>>7880116
Pretty sure both 1 and 2 are on the SNES Online list already, though it would've been cool to play the first game in 3DS 3D. What I'm guessing is that Nintendo turned it down simply because of the way they got it running on the system, must've fallen outside of compliance when it comes to Virtual Console and 3D Classics releases on 3DS.

[Anonymous No.7901384]

>>7901045
>Pretty sure both 1 and 2 are on the SNES Online list already
As straightforward emulations. What I'd personally like to see is from-the-ground-up recodes that incorporate things like 1080p 60fps, analog control, etc. all while maintaining the SFX chip look and artstyle. I also mentioned before that the reason why I think the SF1 3DS remake was rejected was because there were legal issues with any and all games that used the SFX chip. It's the reason why the GBA version of Yoshi's Island was on the 3DS and Wii U Virtual Console instead of the SNES original.

[Anonymous No.7901617]

>>7900521
>For worse. Having your teammates alive means that more enemies are being shot at, adding to your score.
So the teammates being alive doesn't add to your score directly? Don't they barely help at all? I've nearly gotten a perfect score in starfox 1 (only missed perfect on two stages I think) and it seemed like they really didn't do anything.

I guess they might spawn an extra enemy when they chase or are chased, so that's something....

Is there a best guide to getting good at Starfox 64 in your opinion? Like I can beat the game fine, but I can only get the medal on the first star wolf level. I'd like to get good at scoring.

[Anonymous No.7903279]

>>7901617
Most of your allies' work happens off screen. They mainly exist to give you a chance of having an enemy you passed by be destroyed anyways.
As for SF64, there are lots of walkthroughs on YouTube and GameFAQs to help you rack up points.

[Anonymous No.7904590]

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[Anonymous No.7904661]

>>7903279
So the teammates actually shoot enemies down offscreen? I never would have imagined, I'd have thought they'd show everything they do on-screen for clarity's sake. That's a weird design decision.

[Anonymous No.7904689]

>>7874870
Show him an overclock that fulfills his criteria: >>7874834

[Anonymous No.7904692]

>>7872773
>I'm an expert at the game but I don't read no dang fuckin words on the screen words are for nerds am i right lmao
Is this you? Are you really that guy?

[Anonymous No.7904716]

>>7871261
>The final version from the SNES has also been put on real SFX carts
which game would I need to put it on to get this working? Would Stunt Race FX suffice?

[Anonymous No.7904830]

>>7904692
No, that guy is not me. Take a wild guess as to who I think best girl is.

[Anonymous No.7904845]

>>7904830
I just really wanna fuck bitches

[Anonymous No.7905760]

>>7904845
Fay is for cuddles, not for lewd.

[Anonymous No.7907118]

>>7904845
Who doesn't?

[Anonymous No.7907950]

>TFW Fara is never ever coming back
>Not even fans seem to remember/like her

[Anonymous No.7907976]

>>7869915
yes.

[Anonymous No.7909463]

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[Anonymous No.7909471]

>>7872634
What do you make of "Lady" and "Saru" in the early Star Fox 2 prototypes?

[Anonymous No.7909803]

>>7872773
>2021
>during pride month
>making passive aggressive statements about men wearing panties
fuck off you piece of shit

[Anonymous No.7909857]

>>7909803
>current year
>during yet another month
>wait what was that poster even saying again

[Anonymous No.7910597]

>>7909471
"Saru" is Japanese for Monkey and "Lady" is self explanatory. A lot of people seem to think that they're Fara (from the Nintendo Power SF comics) and Andross. While Fara makes sense, I don't know why Andross would be in an Arwing. In my opinion Argonaut made the right call with swapping them out with original characters. It helps expand the universe a bit.

[Anonymous No.7911187]

>>7871261
You were popular in school weren't you?

[Anonymous No.7912752]

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[Anonymous No.7913114]

>>7872634
Now that Star Fox 2 was officially released, so you expect to see Miyu and Fay make an appearance in the next game?

[Anonymous No.7913138]

>>7913114
What about mah boi Algy?

[Anonymous No.7913173]

>>7913138
Algy's basically just another form of Andrew. For whatever reason, Andrew was the original idea and it became Algy at some point. Star Fox 64 looked to the concept art when making their version of Star Wolf. For that reason, I doubt they'd ever have Algy and Andrew coexist as separate characters.

[Anonymous No.7913561]

>>7913114
Possibly. I'm not sure if they'd be on the SF team, but I could see them showing up as a temporary partner during some missions similar to Katt. I'm personally fine with them being main crew, but lots of people only want the original four to be on the team...

>>7913138
Algy however has been basically replaced by Andrew. >>7913173 says it best.

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[Anonymous No.7915359]

>>7872634
Why is Venom so different in Star Fox 2? Did they accidentally switch it with Eladard or something?