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Hey /vr/,

I'm REALLY BAD at sonic games. Laughably bad. How do I get better at them?

>> No.785826

Take it easy and go at a steady pace.

ENJOY them.

>> No.785835
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>>785826
Don't listen to this faggot.

Gotta go fast.

>> No.785838

>>785826

This. You have 10 minutes to finish each stage.

>> No.785849

>>785838
Why the fuck did Sonic games have a timer that counted up, anyway? Always seemed really stupid to me.

>> No.785858
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785858

I'm awful at sanic too bro ;_;

and mario

I can handle things like Ninja gaiden and castlevania, going fast is just hard for me I guess.

>> No.785859

>>785849

Because it's like a racing game. You want the lowest number (time) possible

>> No.785861

Try playing one with competent like 2 or 3&k. If you're trying CD than it's run counter to every other Sonic game.

>> No.785865

>>785817
Step it up

>> No.785886

>>785861
Sonic 2 is basically just hold right on d-pad to win.

>> No.785892

>>785859
Then why even put an arbitrary, invisible time limit in the game in the first place?

>> No.785898

Are you generally bad at platformers?

>> No.785905

>>785858
OP here, are you me?

>> No.785907

>>785898
Not necessarily, just sonic games in specific.

>> No.786003
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786003

>>785817
COMON OP STEP IT UP

>> No.786012

>>785892
What are you talking about. After 10min you die and especially SonicCD where there's lots of searching and backtracking that limit can get eaten up.
...and wtf are you talking about "invisible"? The counter is at the top of the screen

>> No.786020

Come on, dude. I could beat the first sonic stage in under 40 seconds as a kid. It's really not that hard, it's really all about rhythm and learning how to properly control your speed.

>> No.786017

>>785886
Sonic Advance 2 maybe otherwise your a goddamn retard

>> No.786018

>>786012
genius

>> No.786029

>>786017
Explain how Sonic 2 isn't.

>> No.786034

>>786029
You want me to explain with a flow chart and a bullet list?
The game is not "hold right to win" by any stretch of the imagination.

>> No.786037

>>786012
Please show me any screenshot of Sonic that indicates that the time limit is 10 minutes. The score and ring count do not have leading zeroes and expand as needed, so saying "well clearly it stops at 9:59" is not acceptable.

And you do realize that your Sonic CD example is an argument AGAINST a timer, right?

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>>786037
That was difficult.

>> No.786046

>>786037
Wow, are you an idiot? It says in every manual for every 2D platform Sonic game that you have to complete the level in under 10:00. It's no different than Mario.

>> No.786050

>>786046
In regards to having a set time limit I mean

>> No.786051

>>786034
Give some examples, it's not that hard. I mean if you're going to call people names you could at least give some reasons to back up your initial opinion. Sonic 2 is definitely one if not the easiest Sonic games out there. The only levels I can think of that actually take some bit of real maneuvering are Metropolis and Wing Fortress.

>> No.786058

>>786051
Look at a goddamn map of the levels and see for yourself. You're the one making retarded statements, you look for yourself.

>> No.786068

>>786058
I don't need to look at the maps. I've played the game for myself and know exactly how easy it is.

>> No.786073

>>786068
You can say they're easy but "hold right" they are not

>> No.786082

>>786051
>>786058
I'm pretty sure Anon's saying that "press right to win" is oversimplifying the matter. Obviously it takes more than that to beat the game no matter how easy it is.

>> No.786084

>>786073
You really shouldn't take everything literal, kiddo. The statement was made to say how piss poor easy the game is. Apparently you haven't been here long enough to realize how such a statement is used. My apologies.

>> No.786094

wow /vr/, the shit you're turning into. I used to like this board.

>> No.786096

People who are saying Sonic games are easy, come back after you have collected all chaos emeralds in all of the /vr/ games. Go ahead, tell me how easy 8-bit Sonic 2 is.

>> No.786105

>>786084
>>786082
No, because Sonic Advance 2 IS hold right to win. Just saying that as a way of indicating ease is using it incorrectly.
Besides, all Sonic games are easy so why even try to act all hardcore about it anyway?

>> No.786113

>>786084
>kiddo
Whatever you say junior

>> No.786120

>>786096
Sonic 2 GG isn't easy but as a kid that was all I had for a while. Hardest SOnic by far but doable

>> No.786117

>>786105
>Sonic Advance
Cool story, not retro.

>> No.786128

>>786117
cool story, what's your point?

>> No.786130

>>786105
The discussion has nothing to do with Sonic Advance 2 and no one is trying to be hardcore about anything. Well, except maybe the guy who got offended when someone pointed out a flaw in one of his childhood video game memories.

>> No.786137

>>786050
I was gonna say, if you had 10 minutes for every Mario level, it'd be an Action/Adventure game.

>> No.786141

>>786120
I've collected every emerald up until that stage with all of the pipes near the end. I refuse to use save states (or emulate at all unless unavoidable) so I pretty much just gave up there. Not interested in going through the trial and error bullshit of it when half of the time by the time you get there you're already down to single digit lives from Green Hill Zone's death jumps.

>> No.786151

>>786130
"Hold right to win" is SAdv2. The game exists and that phrase is synonymous with that game. Not /vr/, but so what? You say a phrase associated with a game, it'll get mentioned.

Even as easy as Sonic 2 is, holding right to win doesn't even work as a piss take.

The only person offended is the one who got called out for talking bullocks

>> No.786147

>>786128
This is /vr/. We only talk about retro games here.

>> No.786159

>>786141
Memorizing the Green Hills springs and the Dragon's Lair-like way to navigate the Scrambled Egg zone were the banes of my childhood. I was floored, I was fucking FLABBERGASTED when I finally got the chance to play the Genesis version and how different it was.

>> No.786160

>>785817
ya know that game fancy pants man? its like that but with a blue guy instead of a stick figure

>> No.786161

LOL

Another sonic thread, another endless argument.

>inb4 300+ replies

>> No.786173

>>786159
I can only imagine, I had 16-bit Sonic 2 as a kid never even played on a Game Gear until last year. Still, to be able to say you've beaten that game is a fucking massive achievement as far as I'm concerned.

>> No.786181

>>786151
Well, I'm not too sure about offended. I explained my reasoning and what I meant by my statement. Like I said, I apologize that you or whoever did not understand, or can take any form of criticism apparently. The base argument is Sonic 2 is one of the easiest Sonic games out there. Nothing more. It was geared towards Sonic 2 and not Sonic Advance 2. I've never played the Advance version so I have no idea what it's actually like.

>> No.786231

>>786037
When the time goes to 9:59 you die.

>> No.786507

>>786096
Master System Sonic 2 is easy-peasy lemon-squeezy. You can't judge a game's difficulty by a shitty handheld port.

>> No.786551

>>786507

Yeah, be quiet. S2 GG is so much harder and not just because of the screen size, but because they made the bosses harder (except for the seal who they made easier for some reason) but they changed some of the stage layouts to be harder. A lot harder.

>> No.786556

>>786551
Did you read the post you're replying to?

>> No.786564

Roll around at the speed of sound.

>> No.786575

>>786045
>>786046
>>786231

So the only way to know what the time limit is without hitting it beforehand is by reading the manual? What is the point of that? Why not just count down from the maximum time limit like every other goddamn game?

>> No.786582 [DELETED] 

>>786575

There's only 3 digits in the time section. Anyway I found out by taking too long as a kid.

You act like you want those lost extra lives back or something.

>> No.786587

>>786575
It's supposed to evoke the feel of a race. The shorter the time, the better.

>> No.786589

>>786575
>>785859

>> No.786592

>>786587
Not having to do basic subtraction is more important than having forewarning about something that instantly kills you?

>> No.786601

>>786592
It teaches children basic math skills. Sanic is edutainment.

>> No.786602

>>786592
if it takes you ten minutes to beat a sonic level you went slow, and deserve to die

>> No.786613

>this thread

You people will complain about anything. When I said you could take 10 minutes to finish the level, I was just letting you know how much time you had to finish, not how much I expected you to actually take. Not even fucking Metropolis Zone 3 takes me 10 minutes to get through.

>> No.786615

>>786602
I don't know. A couple levels in Sonic 3 were longer than they should have been. I haven't played it in awhile though.

>> No.786625
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>>786601

getting a hedge-u-cation is very important

>> No.786627

>>786575
Everybody read manuals in the Genesis days.

>> No.786636

Wow I didn't expect this thread to explode in an argument.

Guys, seriously though. I need tips on getting better at sonic.

>> No.786649

Err, the timer is supposed to be an onscreen track of your progress not a countdown to your doom.

"I got to this point at the 30 second mark"

vs

"I got to this point at T-9:29"

>> No.786658

>>786636

get lots of RENGS and stay on your toes

learn to control Sonic, the physics are very easy to get used to

If you're playing American Sonic 1, never let yourself bounce off of one pair on spikes and onto another or you'll die. It's a mean glitch.

>> No.786667

>>786627
This. I first played Sonic on the Gamecube Mega Collection and even that had the manual scans in-game.

>> No.786676

>>786667
I was the only one who didn't when I was younger ; ;

Got to casino night zone...couldn't get past the pinball plungers. Kept trying to force sonic round the loop with the d-pad, would always almost get there then roll back down.

Finally realized there was a manual explaining all this.

>> No.786890

>>786575
>So the only way to know what the time limit is without hitting it beforehand is by reading the manual?
Yes.
If you can't be bothered, the worst you'll have to deal with is having to die once and restart at a checkpoint. It's not the end of the world.

>Why not just count down from the maximum time limit like every other goddamn game?
Because the game is designed to encourage finishing the levels as quickly as possible. Not "within 10 minutes."

>> No.787010

>>786556
Did you? S2 GG and MS are completely different beasts.

>> No.787042

>>786658
thanks :)

>> No.787063

Since you guys were discussing the timer thing, here's an interesting bit of info:
In Sonic CD, the timer resets to 5'00'' if you time travel (either to past or future), so say you're about to die at 9'50'' but you manage to time travel, it goes back to 5'00''
And running out of time in SCD is very common since usually getting to the past and finding the generator takes time if you're not looking at a map of the level.

For some reason, this timer reset mechanic was taken off the HD remake.