/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7848804]

is this the best scaler for ps2

[Anonymous No.7848815]

>>7848804
you could just use the official component sony cables

[Anonymous No.7848825]

>>7848815
tv adds lag

[Anonymous No.7848828]

actual crt is the best display method for 480i content

[Anonymous No.7848862]

>>7848804
BC PS3 with HDMI is the best scaler.

[Anonymous No.7848879]

GBS Control or Retrotink 5X with motion adaptive de-interlacing is the best scaler for the PS2 but the 2X-Pro is also really good. I love it for my Wii

[Anonymous No.7848897]

>>7848825
So does every Retrotwink product.
Wait for the OSSC Pro or pick up a CRT that I bet you can get for free anyways.

[Anonymous No.7848907]

>ossc/ps2-spammer spamming rt5x now
based

[Anonymous No.7848938]

>>7848862
This
Using a PS3 also has no more or less lag than a original PS2 even when using HDMI

[Anonymous No.7849167]

>>7848897
Under 2 frames. Unless you're the turbo-autist of the century, I highly doubt you're actualoly going to notice.

[Anonymous No.7849180]

>>7848897
>don't buy thing, buy the thing I'm shilling for instead

[Anonymous No.7849221]

>>7849167
>32ms
No thanks.

>>7849180
I don't give a shit about either, use a real CRT, but I don't get what's wrong with shilling something when it's actually better? If you ask about latency, it's wrong to recommend the product that has less compared to the one that's more popular? I guess you're just having buyers remorse for buying a shit product. Most of /vr/ is always projecting about dumb shit.

[Anonymous No.7849356]

>>7849221
>but I don't get what's wrong with shilling
lol. I don't own either; sounds like you're the one projecting.

[Anonymous No.7849360]

>>7849356
Well, I wasn't the one getting mad about random shitty products. I was just getting mad about a dumb shitpost.

[Anonymous No.7849537]

>>7849167
>turbo-autist
lmao. You're literally retarded if you can't notice 2 frames of lag.

[Anonymous No.7849580]

>>7849167
>actualoly
Yeah, someone with your mental faculties probably would have problems registering the copious amounts of compounded lag these "heh it's good enough for idiots like me" hack-job "solutions" introduce.

[Anonymous No.7849612]

>>7849580
>>7849537
I can see I've hurt some people's feelings.
Oh wait, sorry.
Turbo-autists aren't people.

[Anonymous No.7849656]

>>7849537
>>7849580
Most modern TVs will have at least 1 to 2 frames of lag with whatever you out in them on Game Mode, and several more outside of game mode.

If you go fully buffered on the 5x, it should be about 20ms of computation time, though it's less when you don't go fully buffered, or aren't doing certain de-interlace methods. Only line doublers won't add any additional lag, but they have problems with dropped sync and other things. You have to have a scaler with a frame buffer if you want additional benefits, and that means usually anywhere from 4 ms to 20 ms of latency.

So essentially the whole argument is pointless. Nothing will be better than the 5x, and the OSSC Pro will be have the same, and if you really care about 20ms of delivery time, then you shouldn't be using a scaler or any modern flat panel today, you should be using a CRT.

[Anonymous No.7849664]

>>7849167
Retrotink multipliers have NO lag, they say "52 milliseconds" on the product details page because they assume you have a shit tv. Some TVs only have 8ms of lag in 60hz mode.

[Anonymous No.7849671]

>>7849580
The blur filters on Retrotink 2x products are the best, and contrary to what this thread is saying, there is NO lag introduced.

[Anonymous No.7849674]

>>7849664
Line multipliers have almost no latency, yes, but the 5x is actually a scaler, and does have a framebuffer, which does introduce between 4 and 20 ms based on the settings.

[Anonymous No.7849675]

>>7849656
>what are zero-lag line multipliers

[Anonymous No.7849680]

Today I will remind them

[Anonymous No.7849725]

>>7849680
Video quality is blurry and dark, like playing N64 on a Wiiu. But yes, go ahead and feel superior because you're playing with an "advanced" solution.

[Anonymous No.7849732]

>>7848804
That's not PCSX2. In all seriousness, I find it funny that there's this pissing content to make PS2 hardware look 'good'. It's garbage in, garbage out. That way it renders and outputs is inherently shitty. Component on a 15khz CRT is about as good as you'll get it but it's still an UGLY fucking system.

[Anonymous No.7849738]

>>7849732
It can do crystal-clear RGsB. There are systems like the N64 and Xbox Original which are "Garbage in, garbage out", but the PS2 isn't one of them.

[Anonymous No.7849747]

>>7849674
I didn't realize the discussion image magically changed from a Retrotink 2x to a Retrotink5x, silly me for going off topic.

[Anonymous No.7849772]

>>7848897
>So does every Retrotwink product.
Wrong, do your research.

[Anonymous No.7850012]

>>7849656
>Most modern TVs will have at least 1 to 2 frames of lag
You serious? Where are you, 2006?
Good monitors these days have 3 - 9 ms of TOTAL latency, that's processing + G2G response time.

[Anonymous No.7850024]

>>7849167
32 ms is enough to make a game completely unbeatable if you found it difficult to begin with

[Anonymous No.7850405]

>>7850024
I said 2 frames not 32 ms, seriously you autists nag about everything.

[Anonymous No.7850545]

>>7849738
Isn't it meant to be a budget solution that does a workable job at fixing the PS2's interlacing without relying on bob deinterlacing like the standard OSSC/Retrotink 2X?

>>7849738
I thought the OG Xbox was fine, doesn't that support 480p on most of the library and 720p on a few rare titles?

[Anonymous No.7850562]

>>7849680
what's that, a Coleco Chameleon?

[Anonymous No.7850571]

>>7849725
Works on my machine

[Anonymous No.7850598]

>>7850545
Yeah, but there's lots of noise copmpared to other 6th gen consoles, and 720x480 titles have a pixel shift that can't be fixed with optimal sampling.

[Anonymous No.7850618]

>>7850571
Works, doesn't look good though, You're better off bob-ing or multiplying.

[Anonymous No.7850832]

>>7850618
I can understand line multiplying upscalers being a better alternative to the GBS, though admittedly I'm not sure how bob-ing would be. I hear some TVs are better at de-interlacing than others, but that depends on the set up IIRC.

[Anonymous No.7850836]

>>7848804

PCSX2

[Anonymous No.7850843]

>>7850832
Bob-ing has no input lag and retains far more colour and brightness than the GBS-C, only problem is the video bobs up and down. It's not ideal for recording, but it's great for just playing games with.

[Anonymous No.7850852]

>>7850836
Why do emulator-virgins always want so much attention from us scaler-chads?

[Anonymous No.7850862]

>>7850852
>valid argument to OP
>instant projection from butthurt "nooo u can't just emulate" fag

[Anonymous No.7850864]

>>7850852

OP asked for a better scaler so i answerd his question you faggot dont mind me playing ps2 games in 3440 x 1440 or 4k faggot

[Anonymous No.7850865]

>>7850836
Based. PCSX2 with software rendered with a 19" VGA Trinitron running at the native res/refresh is just a bliss.

[Anonymous No.7850868]

>>7850862
>valid argument to OP
He asked if it was the best SCALER, you unwanted faggot.

[Anonymous No.7850874]

>He asked if it was the best SCALER, you unwanted faggot.
>"nooo, you can't just scale IN ENGINE and not like we do after the pipeline that always gives worse results"

[Anonymous No.7850882]

>>7850874
>>7850865
>>7850836
Go back to your emulation threads, nobody here fucking cares.

[Anonymous No.7850887]

>>7850882
You don't make the rules, buddy.

[Anonymous No.7851150]

>>7850618
I feed the GBS into the OSSC to then multiply. Looks pretty damn good to me better than the bob and in 480p games I can't personally detect a drop in quality compared to when running straight through OSSC, but that's just my experience

[Anonymous No.7851220]

>>7848804
No, the 5x Pro is.

[Anonymous No.7851660]

>>7849725
mod it and it's not blurry nor dark anymore

[Anonymous No.7851792]

I just use my computer :)

[Anonymous No.7851801]

>>7849612
>out self as slow reaction time downie
>get laughed at
>u-u-ur mad

[Anonymous No.7851918]

>>7849725
>NOOOO
cope

[Anonymous No.7852260]

>still fine with my OSSC
>not bothered with 480i Bob-deinterlacing because I sit a reasonably distance away from my screen where it's barely noticeable unless you're nitpicking about reference quality footage of old games being displayed in some video by some youtuber looking to say controversial shit shit for a total runtime of 10-15 minutes to monopolize on adsense money