Miyamoto said long development = good games but this is not true

[Anonymous No.7827367]

Yoshis island was in development for 5 years with all of Nintendos best working round the clock on it. They even chucked a Super FX2 chip in and at the end of the day it was the worst Mario game ever released at the time. God awful gameplay.

Now lets look at Mega Drive Altered Beast. Tight deadline of 8 weeks with everything about it being a home run. Gameplay, graphics ,music, story all top notch.

[Anonymous No.7827368]

(you)

[Anonymous No.7827369]

>>7827367
Altered beast was an arcade port, nothing about it was built from the ground up, it’s just simply an inferior arcade port. It’s not a good comparison to yoshis island.

Yoshis island was built from the ground up, integrated fresh new mechanics and pushed the snes to its graphical boundaries. It took a long time to make for that reason alone. The gameplay did indeed fall flat though imo, I can agree with you as well that it was the worst Mario game released at the time. But still not a good comparison with altered beast, which as I said before, just an arcade port.

[Anonymous No.7827370]

>>7827367
If long dev times meant good games, Cyberpunk 2077 would've been the second greatest game of all time, next to Duke Nukem Forever.

Good dev's can make good games. Sometimes. Long dev times are actually a sign of massive problems usually. If your game is in dev for like 5+ years, chances are it's going to be a shitpile. See: Square Enix the past 20 years and every FF they've dumped out.

[Anonymous No.7827372]

>Mega Drive Altered Beast
Ya blew it. I love Altered Beast, but the MD port is just a neutered version of the arcade game that holds no value beyond nostalgia if you have access to the original.

[Anonymous No.7827378]

>>7827369
>simply an inferior arcade port
Mega Drive has parallax scrolling over arcade.
>fresh new mechanics
Did they ever bring back crying Mario or aiming eggs that way in any other game? I couldn't stand either.

[Anonymous No.7827380]

>>7827367
>one little game being your main concern fro 3-5 years of your life
always been hard for me to wrap my head around project life cycles like this.

[Anonymous No.7827381]

>>7827372
>but the MD port is just a neutered version of the arcade game
Mega Drive has some advantages over arcade but the point of this thread was it was pumped out in 8 weeks to meet a deadline. If they had 5+ years like Nintendo it could have surpassed the arcade.

[Anonymous No.7827384]

>>7827367
Pikmin 4 will be such a good game then. Thanks Miyamoto-sama!

[Anonymous No.7827419]

>>7827367
>Miyamoto said long development = good games
No he didn't but go off I guess.

[Anonymous No.7827429]

>>7827367
theres so many thing wrong/incorrect with your assessment, its tough to know where to start.

a game is not good or bad based on how long it took to develop. a short or long dev time is primarily related to creating art assets and polishing/defining the gameplay. thats where 80% of the dev time goes. so, if a dev team has more time to work on art and gameplay, usually this makes for a better game in the end.

yoshis island was fun af when it came out, and did some really cool new things. perhaps it was ahead of its time, or perhaps players were too excited about n64 and the 3d revolution at the time. the competition was tough for 2d games around that time.

also, why are you quoting miyamoto as if he's the only authority on game dev? he was only really influential in the 80s and 90s. modern game dev is vastly different than the small team console focused games he managed. the expectations from players have changed dramatically. these days, miyamoto is more focused on making mario theme parks. lol

[Anonymous No.7827450]

>>7827367
yoshi games always suck so it checks out

[Anonymous No.7827479]

>>7827367
>Miyamoto said long development = good games
he didn't, liar.

[Anonymous No.7827495]

>>7827479
>A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad
This is his exact quote. Altered Beast was rushed and is better than almost all of his games.

[Anonymous No.7827504]

>>7827495
Post the quote in japanese

[Anonymous No.7827513]

>>7827504
Then do you want to know his cadence? Accept Miyamoto like Yuji Naka is a hack.

[Anonymous No.7827517]

>made a couple good games in the famicom beginnings
>gets free pass to ruin the company into the ground for 30+ years

[Anonymous No.7827531]

>>7827513
Im not the guy you originally were talking to, im just curious since i learned moon

[Anonymous No.7827564]

>>7827495
Put some more effort in trolling. This isn't /v/

[Anonymous No.7827567]

>>7827378
>Did they ever bring back crying Mario or aiming eggs that way in any other game
Yes, you unironic baby boomers. Yoshi's Island has had several sequels.

[Anonymous No.7827569]

I see the aussie tranny is back at it.
>OIII MEE MAYGERR DRIIIVE
>OIII MEEE SPECCY

[Anonymous No.7827573]

>>7827564
If you played both games and not just went off metacritic scores you would realise Altered Beast is the better game.
>>7827567
>Yoshi's Island has had several sequels.
With the exact same crying and curser aiming? I'm sure they're real winners.

[Anonymous No.7827575]

>>7827531
I got my info from here https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2012/apr/27/shigeru-miyamoto-rushed-game-forever-bad

[Anonymous No.7827580]

>>7827569
I'm so tired of him. Just literally burnt out on responding to him and his anti-Nintendo cohorts. No other game company is the center of so much flamebait on /vr/. And you can't report them or anything, because it's not like they're breaking any rules. But the board just gets steadily worse the longer they get away with their trolling.

[Anonymous No.7827585]

>>7827580
>anti-Nintendo
I called Yuji Naka a hack as well but you nintendrones don't see reality for what it is.

[Anonymous No.7827592]

>yoshi's island is a bad game but altered beast is a good game
fucking lol

[Anonymous No.7827598]

>>7827592
>fucking lol
This is your brain on e-celebs.

[Anonymous No.7827603]

>>7827598
This is your brain on HRT

[Anonymous No.7827608]

>>7827603
Yoshis Island is far more popular in the speed running community.