Final Fantasy IX

[Anonymous No.7824339]

This game is charming but it feels off when actually playing it. The story isn't bad but it's not extraordinary, the combats are more difficult than the previous 3 entries but also slower and more boring. The pace and progression after disc 2 is far from the best. It's a beautiful game to look at, but the character design (other than Vivi and Dagger) is puke inducing. All in all, it feels like the world's best mediocre game.

[Anonymous No.7824345]

At least it isn’t full zipperland like X.

[Anonymous No.7824347]

>>7824339
mfw ff9 still filtering plebs with shit taste in 2021

[Anonymous No.7824350]

>>7824347
Tell me why do you like it so much

[Anonymous No.7824383]

game was pretty obviously unfinished and rushed out so they could shine all the marketing on their PS2 titles. everything just kinda falls apart on the third disc and half the cast has no reason to exist plot wise

[Anonymous No.7824396]

>>7824350
>Tell me why do you like it so much
he seems to like that it makes u seethe

[Anonymous No.7824407]

>>7824396
Yes, I knew already that FF9 faggots are contrarians.

[Anonymous No.7824408]

>>7824339
It's actually the best FF and you have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.7824440]

>>7824339
Agree. Ff9 stinks compared to ff4-8

[Anonymous No.7824458]

>>7824350
>contrarian calling the correct opinion contrarian
chill out, it's just games bruh

[Anonymous No.7824461]

>>7824407
>contrarian calling the correct opinion contrarian
chill out, it's just games bruh

[Anonymous No.7824474]

>>7824461
You fuckers can't never state exactly why this game is the best. It's all
>it's a callback to REEL final fantasy!
what is Final Fantasy? just having a black mage and some references?

It's a contrarian choice because you fuckers feel special by picking 9 instead of one of 4 to 8. Even ProJared said it's the best but struggled to explain why exactly other than some meaningless "it's not bad at anything". Yeah, but it's not good at anything either. The Mediocre Final Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.7824514]

I didn't think it was all that great either. Too many references and not enough originality.

[Anonymous No.7824517]

>>7824474
> The Mediocre Final Fantasy
That's so true. I played a bunch of final fantasies as a kid (including everything from 6 to 10), and I remember enjoying 9, but I don't have any strong memories of it

[Anonymous No.7824525]

I like it. I judge jrpgs based upon the feels they provide more than anything. The character design is a little cutesy for my taste, but otherwise, the pre rendered background art and music is beautiful. The plot is fine. I don’t expect dostoevsky from a jrpg, but it also has more pathos than dragon quest 1. I just like the feels- A pleasant diversion into a colorful fantasy world, simple as.

[Anonymous No.7824541]

>>7824474
>seething even more
>ProJared said
>I DONT GET IT!!!!!!!!
anon, you need to relax and accept this is one Final Fantasy you just don't understand.

[Anonymous No.7824757]

>>7824383
Final Fantasy X is far more unfinished than Final Fantasy IX.

[Anonymous No.7824783]

>>7824541
How do I tell her I'm more interested in the slightly awkward, self-conscious girl behind her?

[Anonymous No.7824810]

The main issue with FF9 for me is how limited the gameplay system is. There really isn't that much customization or different things you can do, unlike in 7 and 8.

I still played the shit out of it. I even found a way to kill the Grand Dragons on the plain up the grotto at the start of Disc 2.

[Anonymous No.7824961]

>>7824810
>There really isn't that much customization or different things you can do, unlike in 7 and 8.
You can do systems with limited customization just fine. But for the love of god, at least let me pick my party instead of forcing a set party throughout 2 discs and a half. FFIX was infuriating in this aspect. You replay the game and it's always the same experience and same strategies because you can't deviate from the same forced 4 characters.

[Anonymous No.7825135]

>>7824783
tell her you're gay

[Anonymous No.7825141]

>>7824474
>It's mah favorite FF because Sakaguchi said so!

Or something among these lines.

Game is just a rehearsal of classical Final Fantasies. Doesn't have any refreshing or new ideas being thrown around. It's a solid game if you're looking for something that pays tribute to old FFs but the slapping it a number title was a mistake.

Only memorable storyline was Vivi's for me. Everything else (and I mean everything) was pretty unoriginal and best done in the games it draws inspiration from.

[Anonymous No.7825164]

Garnet’s ass makes the game worth playing.

[Anonymous No.7825254]

>>7824339
I read the dialog box OP.

[Anonymous No.7825564]

the 3 psx ff are the best of the serie.

[Anonymous No.7825637]

>>7824339
I love FF9. FFX sucks ass ;)

[Anonymous No.7825804]

>>7824339
its a good game
but nowadays if i were to want to go replay a jrpg thats really pretty and has good music, id just go re-play chrono cross again

[Anonymous No.7826745]

>>7824757
no its not

[Anonymous No.7827447]

>>7826745
>b-b-but it hasn't a world map!

[Anonymous No.7827480]

>>7824339
>miss a single input
>half your audience hates the performance
Hope you like flamenco music

[Anonymous No.7828279]

>>7827480
Lol, zoomers really are retarded if this is what you are complaining about.

[Anonymous No.7828289]

all jarpigs suck ass

[Anonymous No.7828301]

>>7828289
t. filtered by rpgs

[Anonymous No.7828306]

>>7828301
yes, I'm filtered by the shitty gameplay and stories in RPGs

>>7825164
you can fap to garnet pics on boorus without playing the game, you know that right

[Anonymous No.7828324]

>>7824461
bruh y u finna boutta be typin like this my nibba i mean rly? super sus bruh.


No, really, stop typing like you have brain damage.

[Anonymous No.7828348]

I like 9 but it's my least favorite up to that point. The whole world feels dull outside the mist continent. I don't really like the combat and they're much slower than they should be. I loved the other-worldlieness of Terra the first time I played it, but it loses that impact when you replay it. The chocobo mini-game is fun. The card game and most of the other mini-games suck too.

[Anonymous No.7828357]

>>7824339
True. I played through it once and I've tried to replay it several times over the years, but it never really is quite as good as I'd like it to be. I love the themes the story explores, but it kind of drags on too much. I like that the characters feel different, but the combat system isn't that engaging.

It's not bad, but it's not great either.

[Anonymous No.7828376]

>>7828301
>t. filtered by rpgs
so true
My theory involves four deficiencies: illiterate people, people with stunted imaginations, people who can't connect with other people or characters, inability to understand metaphor.

Another big one is low self-esteem, many rpgs involve getting together with friends, having romances, and these things remind the spergs and autists what they're missing out on. Immediately it makes them uncomfortable. So they retreat to dry games with no depth, just jumping on platforms or shooting at pixels with no context or plot.

[Anonymous No.7828386]

>>t. filtered by rpgs
>so true
>My theory involves four deficiencies: illiterate people, people with stunted imaginations, people who can't connect with other people or characters, inability to understand metaphor.

>Another big one is low self-esteem, many rpgs involve getting together with friends, having romances, and these things remind the spergs and autists what they're missing out on. Immediately it makes them uncomfortable. So they retreat to dry games with no depth, just jumping on platforms or shooting at pixels with no context or plot.

[Anonymous No.7828392]

>>7828376
So the type of people who get annoyed when they see happy couples outside in public?

[Anonymous No.7828405]

>>7828392
Funny enough, these are the type of people that created the first rpg. Go figure.

[Anonymous No.7828410]

>>7828386
I cannot think of anything more inane than caring about skill in a video game.

[Anonymous No.7828416]

>>7828410
Don't RPGs have skills, jarpig?

[Anonymous No.7828420]

>>7828410
Caring about "getting together with (virtual) friends, having (virtual) romances, and these things" in a video game.

[Anonymous No.7828436]

>>7828392
Yes those types end up becoming very creepy, rejected by friends and gaming communities. Their negative fixations makes them obnoxious to be around.

When they see others enjoying rpgs, fiction, girlfriends, relationships, gaming hardware, careers, basically anything they can't have the rage starts building up and eating away at them like a parasite.

>>7824541
>you need to relax and accept this is one Final Fantasy you just don't understand.
This is probably a joke but you don't know how true it is. Their frustration is caused by their lack of understanding, they wish they were having fun but they don't know how. Another part is envy. Ignorance and envy.

[Anonymous No.7828452]

>>7828301
>>7828376
I enjoy JRPGs, but don't pretend there's anything intelligent about about them or that enjoying them makes you somehow superior. They're comfortable.

[Anonymous No.7828483]

>>7828436
>>7828452
I know what you mean there are people with negative pathological fixations on jrpgs and the fanbase. It poisons their mind and seeing people enjoy rpgs makes them seethe, happens a lot. We need to have pity on them, they are broken

>>7827480
I do like FF9 music and that part is tricky to figure out, needs some practice but once you got the timing down it's doable

[Anonymous No.7828525]

What jrpg would you recommend to someone who has mild autism and is very anti-social and has a hard time understanding fiction?
Dungeon crawlers? Roguelike maybe?
He gets nervous and angry around women and just seeing female characters reminds him of his impotence. So if the cast is all male or solo it would be best.
Diablo 2?

[Anonymous No.7828529]

>>7828525
Final Fantasy Tactics! ??

[Anonymous No.7828582]

I enjoy playing FF without guides or help. That way I'm always thinking and planning while observing the environment.

[Anonymous No.7829043]

>>7827480
I always get this by the second or third try.

[Anonymous No.7830051]

Does Vivi have a soul?

[Anonymous No.7831445]

>>7824339
correct, it's the most absolute mediocre game, if feels almost like a dragon quest game aside from story.
no fun mechanics on combat, limit breaks are automatic and doesn't change much, not even a cool attack, learnig new abilities is just grinding, almost no fun minigames, I only recall vivi's rope jumping and race, tried to copy 8's card game but fucked it up badly.
it does a few thing right, secrets and sidequests are fun, keeping uo with moogles and the "mean while" side stories are fun as well.
but then again, combat is as bad as 7's

[Anonymous No.7831757]

>>7828348
God I never remembered this graphics being so atrocious. As a kid it looked wonderful.

[Anonymous No.7831765]

>>7831757
Because you played on a CRT as a kid and it didn't look like an overstreched emulator image with no filters.

[Anonymous No.7831779]

>>7828525
>What jrpg would you recommend to someone who has mild autism and is very anti-social and has a hard time understanding fiction?
>Dungeon crawlers? Roguelike maybe?
Probably Visual Novels or manga, to improve his reading and imagination skills, and expand his attention span. Playing too many jumpy jump games and shooters might've stunted his brain

[Anonymous No.7831819]

>>7831779
This is true. I'm a huge jrpg fan and literally don't have the attention span for a manga or visual novel.

[Anonymous No.7832316]

>>Good things about FF9
>Characters
>Locations
>Graphics
>Music
>the ability system allows you to change your characters weaknesses and strengths in between battles, allowing you to adjust to compensate for the area or an upcoming boss
>synth system gives you a reason to not immediately sell your old shit once you get something with better stats, and even buy some extras in case you get a chance to use it

>>Bad things about FF9
>battle load times and animation lengths
>plot turns into incoherent mess by disc 3 and never recovers, making it feel like a random adventure
>every single mini-game is ass, with the forced Red Light Green Light being a clear offender, and the optional Chocobo Hot and Cold being a fucking annoying time sink needed to get the really good gear
>the ability system means you might need to use a lower quality weapon/armor for far longer than you want just to get the ability unlocked
>your team is mostly forced as specific people for a majority of the game, leaving you little to no choice in strategy other than "I have the abilities to make this easy" or "I don't"
>the "optional" cutscenes that appear all the way through the game seem like a good idea since you can just skip them on replays, until you realize that some of those optional cutscenes need to be viewed or you'll miss out on loot
>tons of easily miss-able collectables, some can only be gotten during a limited timeframe, and many are pointless anyways

It has great things and terrible things.

[Anonymous No.7832815]

>>7824783

Railgun. Then do a grenade jump over to the other girl and try to strike up a conversation. If you do it fast enough (within six frames) she won't engage with the violence and will instead focus on your words. When she blushes, gently take her hand. The rest should be straightforward

[Anonymous No.7835065]

love me FF9
love me progression
love me characters, setting, and battles
simple as

[Anonymous No.7836532]

The setting and presentation are excellent but the gameplay stinks. Battles are too slow, and trance is stupid. The fixed roles are OK but learning skills from gear is not, and often just gets in the way of using new gear you just got. I hated being locked out of most maps at the end, but I guess FF8 turned that into the status quo.

What really pissed me off was all the missable garbage that wasn't even fun to get (fuck rope skipping, hippaul, the coffee crap, etc etc), and the autistic card game.

[Anonymous No.7836739]

Whoever wrote Eiko's lines on Terra was a cheeky cunt.
>"Where is your man?"
>"My man? MY man?! Even Dagger doesn't call him that!"
also
>"What a bimbo!"
Imagining some 6yo little faerie girl talking like that cracks me up.
Also, Amarant-
>"I thought we'd find a bunch of mean mothers here, but they're all wimps."
Little moments of charm like this, and the pure fantasy backdrop and music and story about existentialism, and hunting down neat items and getting more powerful with training(fighting enemies and leveling up) like in a shonen series makes the game one of my favorites of all time.

[Anonymous No.7837558]

My first Final Fantasy was FFVII (which made me obsessed with RPGs and I loved it greatly) and even I think FFIX is the best.

If I could explain it in simple terms, I just love the whimsical nature of it, the music, the art direction,the side characters.

After playing 8, I needed the levity from that dark hole of a game.

[Anonymous No.7837564]

>>7836532
>The fixed roles are OK but learning skills from gear is not, and often just gets in the way of using new gear you just got
I liked the ability system, didn't bother me actually found it interesting

>What really pissed me off was all the missable garbage that wasn't even fun to get (fuck rope skipping, hippaul, the coffee crap, etc etc), card game
isn't some of that optional?

> Battles are too slow, and trance is stupid.
agree battles WERE too slow but the HD versions fixed that, or just emulate and speed it up.
trance was implemented poorly, but a cool idea

[Anonymous No.7837591]

>>7837564
I have NEVER completed the rope jumping or Hippaul's training. If you simply do the chocograph stuff, which isn't even bad at all compared to grinding in older RPGs, you'll be set up legit for the final areas and even Ozma.
Trance is the only thing that actually irritates me about the game. Should have just stuck with limit breaks.

[Anonymous No.7837681]

>>7824339
FF9 is loved because it saved the franchise after the disaster that was FF8. The fact that it did so while paying homage to all the "traditional" final fantasy elements, and thus also serving as a swansong to the "old" era of final fantasy, causes people to reflect highly on the game. It's true the game feels rushed and unfinished in places, but none of that matters since all it had to do was be better than FF8, which is succeeded with flying colors.

[Anonymous No.7837686]

>>7837681
I used to replay IX just so I can hang out and listen to this music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsb4VTueU7U

[Anonymous No.7837893]

>>7837681
Ff8 was no disaster ff9 was.

[Anonymous No.7838708]

>>7837564
Tons of stuff is optional but that shouldn't make it a hassle to get. Limiting a grindy minigame to a small time window so you're forced to stop progression to beat it or lose out on an item is just asshole design.

[Anonymous No.7838794]

>>7837681
FF8 was good, but it's a game where it's ideas are much better than the sum of it's parts. My theory is that Square was so overwhelmed by the commercial and critical success of 7 that they were pressured to make the next entry the grandest of all with a larger budget then they had before. It led to a lot of ideas being put into the game because they could afford to do it, but they didn't really mesh in execution. It didn't help that all of the characters were made by formula rather than what was important for the story. For instance I remember reading an interview with one of the devs once about how FF's have to have the "wild boy" archetype, and that's how Zell came into being. From that, it's easy enough to prune others from the cast knowing that they exist to serve archetypes rather than to be agents in the plot. FF6 also had this problem. Hell of it is, with the junction system being as flexible as it is, they could have kept the main cast to 3 characters, and you could still mold them into whatever combat role you wanted for them.

Also, Freya is best girl. Love that gif.

[Anonymous No.7838830]

>>7837681
tipsfedora.gif

[Anonymous No.7838882]

>>7838708
Just don't get the item. Most of the missables are unusable trinkets anyway.

[Anonymous No.7838893]

>superboss has only 65k health because they went full retard with "muh homage" and programmed the whole game in 16 bit

[Anonymous No.7839215]

>>7838882
>Just don't get the item

heresy

[Anonymous No.7839223]

>>7824339
>the character design (other than Vivi and Dagger) is puke inducing
It's easily the worst in the series. Even the goth emo band in 15 is better, as boring as they are. Armarant and Quina are just flat out ugly. We should've got Lani instead.

[Anonymous No.7839225]

>>7838893
>has only 65k health
>only
Mate, the worst thing in those jrpgs is exactly that. Big numbers to hp, attack and so on, fuck that shit.

[Anonymous No.7839295]

>>7839225
I agree that enemies with gazillion HP points are boring, but killing a superboss in 2 turns without glitches/exploits is lame

[Anonymous No.7839521]

>>7837681
>FF9 is loved because it saved the franchise after the disaster that was FF8.

Such a disaster that it was the best selling FF in the first weeks/months, critically acclaimed by every reviewer at the time and it was still considered internationally the second best FF years ago by fans of the series (until FFXIII was released as far as I remember tracking it). You retards keep thinking your echo chamber is representative of shit but it is not. FF purists are the worst fags.

[Anonymous No.7839550]

>>7839223
Vivi's definitely the best of the bunch, but you're generalizing with most of the cast.
Dagger is bland, but is likely a pass because it accentuates her ass
Zidane's not too bad apart from the flared pants, sleeveless cuffs, and the tail. I know the latter is a story element, but if he's a monkey, make him a damn monkey, like something closer to Son Son.
Eiko and Quina's designs are definitely retarded.
Amarant just needs the afro toned down a bit, and it'd be fine
Freya's design is great, I don't understand it doesn't get a pass too.
Only thing off about Steiner is the feathered cap. Should have been a steel helm, or nothing at all.

[Anonymous No.7839592]

>>7839550
>Freya's design is great, I don't understand it doesn't get a pass too.
because we're not furry fetishists

[Anonymous No.7839676]

>>7839550
>Eiko and Quina's designs are definitely retarded.


Eiko is a grotesque little monster but Quina is awesome.

[Anonymous No.7840110]

>you will never be as positive as Quina

[Anonymous No.7840120]

>>7840110
>those backgrounds on the PC version

[Anonymous No.7840169]

>>7840110
This is disgusting.

[Anonymous No.7840243]

>>7831757
You fucking brainlet.

Play it on a CRT with composite and, not a 1280x960 raw pixel stretched mess, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.7840248]

>>7839215
>that background
>that textbox
Nu FF9 is absolutely disgusting.

[Anonymous No.7840280]

>>7840120
Moguri mod helps but barely.

What's bullshit is, they could have remade the backgrounds, even if they don't have the original render files saved.

*One* autist with a strong GPU and a few thousand dollars (the money is frankly optional) and we could have ALL backgrounds remade from scratch.

[Anonymous No.7840682]

>>7824339
just replayed 8 the other day. i will now replay 9.
don't forget to steal fellow anons!!

[Anonymous No.7840994]

>>7838893
That superboss is the hardest one in any of the Playstation titles. Very unpredictable and can Curse+Meteor your party into oblivion at the drop of a hat.

>>7840682
>don't forget to steal fellow anons!!
Yeah, takes forever to build up Thievery. Dragon's Crest was done more forgiving.

[Anonymous No.7841752]

>>7840682
>don't forget to steal fellow anons!!
I hated this. Basically Zidane does nothing but attempting to steal so you're practically fighting the boss with 3 members

[Anonymous No.7842217]

>>7824339
>entire intro to battle theme plays
okay games loaded in the battle now you can fight