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>loads of great fighters, shmups, bmups and sports games
>no jarpigs or adventure garbage polluting its library
>outlasted its competition as well as shitty 5th gen
What you been playing on your Neogeo lately?

>> No.7812986

>>7812983
zoomer.. you only found out about this shit because of smash ultimate. stfu

>> No.7813010

>loads of great fighters, shmups, bmups and sports games
Mindless shit that people only play when they don't want to play real games.

>no jarpigs or adventure garbage polluting its library
Okay so you just don't like good games. I already knew that though.

>> No.7813021

>>7813010
>jrpg
>good games
>fighters, shmups, bmups
>mindless shit
Pretty sure jrpg is the only gender where you can finish the game even if you have no idea what you are doing, thus, the greatest mindless shit ever made.

>> No.7813034

>>7813021
Yeah yeah I've seen that retarded meme quote in the shmup thread posted 50 times already too

>> No.7813049

>>7813021
Fighters also apply. It depends mostly on the character but anyone can find a couple spammy moves and go to town with them.

>> No.7813056

>>7813021
how many rpgs have you beaten?

>> No.7813063

>>7812983
Post a time stamped pic of your Neo Geo AES and games, OP.

>> No.7813078
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7813078

>>7812983
Neo Geo JRPGs and adventure games were a severely missed opportunity. SNK should have made a Castlevania-like game for the system.
No, Magician Lord does not count.

>> No.7813098

>>7813078
Crossed swords was advertised as a RPG.

>> No.7813110

>>7813098
But it isn't one.

>> No.7813124
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>>7813110
Tell that to SNK

>> No.7813128

>>7813124
People also called Zelda an RPG back then but they were still retards.

>> No.7813219

This thing came out in 1996 for 399. How in the fuck was this juiced up genesis 399? PlayStation was half the price...N64 was 199. Why could this have been a budget console?

>> No.7813250

>>7813219
It came out in 1990. You’re probably thinking of the 3DO.

>> No.7813254

>>7813250
Correction, the AES came out in 1991.

>> No.7813459

>>7812983
Neo Geo is a tragedy of a platform. So much potential only to have over 80% of its library be copy paste fighter garbage.

>> No.7813464

On the gweeeeen

>> No.7813493

>>7813464
is she saying "this is nancy's report"?

>> No.7813518

>>7812983

Didn't this shit cost three times as much as the other consoles on the market?

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>>7813493

>> No.7813528

>>7813518
Yes, but it was marketed as sort of a niche product. It started out as a rental unit for Japanese hotels IIRC. Even when it was released for sale to general consumers, you’d only be able to find them in larger cities.

>> No.7814150

>>7812983
>What
2020 Super baseball

>> No.7814154

beat em ups and sports games are garbage
fighters are okay but you need other people around to fully enjoy them

>> No.7814184

>>7813021
Imagine being so obsessed with transers you make this Freudian slip

>> No.7814278
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7814278

>>7813010

>> No.7814283

>>7814154
>sports games are garbage
onions shut in skinny fat bullied proto pedo tranny detected.

>> No.7814284

>>7814283
any more buzzwords you wanna throw in there?

>> No.7814294

$1100(in 2021 dollars) for commercial arcade hardware is a steal. How much do AES go for now?

>> No.7814319
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>>7814283
>>7813010

>> No.7814332

>>7814283
Go do your clown tricks.

>> No.7814340

>>7814283
Play some real sports outside and not on your vidya you fuckin incel

>> No.7814347

>>7814294
Bought mine for 300 w a controller and av and ac adapter

>> No.7814353

>>7814278
Go back to r/shmups

>> No.7814683 [DELETED] 

>>7814283
based
super sidekicks is the only good thing that assNK ever made

>> No.7814695

>>7814353
lol

>> No.7814810

>>7812983
>>7813010
>>7813021
Have you guys tried not being faggots? You don't need balls bumping on your chin every hour of the day.

>>7813063
>implying OP has money

>>7814283
>"That post really hurt my feelings!"

>> No.7814837

>>7812983
Enjoy your overpriced street fighter box, I'll be busy having fun adventuring.

>> No.7815402

>>7814837
>plays adventureshit to fill the void in his empty life and forget the fact he has no friends to play FTGs with

Sad....

>> No.7815410

>>7815402
What are you projecting lol
I play co-op with my sister sometimes, but prefer solo

>> No.7815479

>>7815410
so you're just afraid of competition. lay off the soimilk lad and start socialising sometime, escaping to gay elf will do you no good.

>> No.7815492
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7815492

>>7813010
>>7813459
>>7814837
Spotted the Small Tymers.

>> No.7816194

>>7814294
400 for the main unit, 2 sticks , one memory card and 4 games 6 years ago

>> No.7816353

>>7812983
>>loads of great [...] shmups, bmups and sports games
nobody has even attempted to call out this baloney

>> No.7816370
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7816370

Neo Chad here, it’s a cool system. I have nothing against adventure games or jrpgs though. I’m glad there are enough different genres that everyone can find something they enjoy.

>> No.7816413

>>7812983
>bmups
it really doesnt have anywhere near as many beat em ups as it should desu

>> No.7816418

>>7814184
i identify as a jrpg you BIGOT

>> No.7816424

>>7816370
thats a lotta megapower

>> No.7816429

>>7814154
Sports games are great when they are arcade-oriented instead of simulation. Hence why Golden Tee, NFL Blitz, NBA Jam, and Turf Masters were popular with non-sports fans.

>> No.7816452

>>7816429
this
neo geo turfmasters is a golf game and its fucking EXCELLENT
FUCK golf
but that game is fun

>> No.7816484

>>7816452
Turfmasters and the NGPC game beats all those games HANDS DOWN. For some reason dirty yakuza japs and ex-irem employees made a golf game that to-this-day you can chillax with your friends with and everyone likes playing.

>> No.7816503

>>7816484
SNK are my favorite yakuza family desu

>> No.7816537
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7816537

>>7816503
Sadly, same.

>> No.7816575

>>7813010
>real games
Yeah REAL GAMES like prince peach has flatulence. And metroidvanias n shiet.

>> No.7816773

>>7813254
>>7813219

The AES, yes. But when the came out with the neo Geo CD, shit should have been cheaper than PlayStation

>> No.7816803

>>7812983
Do you even own this OP? Post your collection

>> No.7816830

>>7816773
The Neo Geo CD also seemed like a pretty niche product. It’s not like I was walking into my local small town Walmart and finding it on the shelves next to the N64 and PlayStation stuff.

>> No.7816840

>>7816803
The fact that OP thinks it’s called the “Neogeo” indicates to me that he probably doesn’t own one. While we’re at it, Game Boy is also two words. It’s not Gameboy.

>> No.7816842

>>7816830
The Neo Geo CD had to be made. However fucking SNK was too stupid and skimped on the SRAM, sucks it was so expensive back them. You needed to load up the SRAM with which was on a dick. They made the discs just so they didn't have to sell $500+ motherboards that they called games. Sadly even with that what you say is still true, didn't fix their abysmal market share.

>> No.7816843

>>7813010
>real games
>>7816575
>real games
by real games he means nintendy platformers we all beat when we were 9 years old on nes.

>> No.7816856

>>7813056
Every single one of them released to SNES and Mega Drive. Why?

>> No.7816859

>>7816842
Yeah, the one and only time I ever saw a Neo Geo in person was when we visited my grandparents in Phoenix and went to a big Toys R Us. I’ve never seen a Neo Geo CD.

>> No.7816863

>>7816830
The Neo CD SD Loader basically brings to life the most fantastic of "what if" scenarios for the Neo Geo CD, but of course that couldn't be done at the time, economically. Too bad.

>> No.7817182

>>7815492
holy shit the chad energy here is record high

>> No.7818320

>>7816842
Too bad about the 1x reading speed.

>> No.7818414

>>7813459
The unfortunate thing is that a lot of people think of Neo Geo being copy paste if only for the very late output from the console, which honestly just a fallback for when the Hyper 64 bombed.

Stuff like 2001 and 2002 are 100% copy paste with awful audio. The Samsho 5 games are literally Rom Hacks of Samsho 4. Straight up just decompiled the rom and edited it. You can see all the old references to 4 in the code. Metal Slug 4 and 5 are much the same, and lack a lot of the creativity of 3.

It really wasn't until KoF2003 and SVC Chaos where you got some new stuff, but even SVC is let down by many old sprites, and shit backgrounds and music.

When you go back to KoF 2000 and everything before that, like Garou, Breakers, the original MSlug games, etc., and you see a lot of fresh new content, careful craft of art, smart refreshes to content, and even when a game was only a year apart, it was very different.

KoF 95 to 96 is very different, and likewise 96 to 97, and 98 to 99. There's only 3 AoF games, but they're all so different and brilliant. The Fatal Fury games rehash a bit for sure, but if you focus on Fatal Fury Special, Real Bout Special, and Real Bout 2, you'll see some very different games, especially when you finally get to Garou.

And none of this takes into account the wide variety of Shmups, sports games, and alt games like Shock Troopers and Spin Masters and Twinkle Star Sprites.

It's just those late official romhacks, coupled with a lot of bootlegs and everything else at that time that really hurt the legacy of the Neo Geo, which has a spectacular library, which still holds up today for about 80% of the content.

>> No.7818446

>>7816842
>skimped on the SRAM
What? It had 7 MB of RAM in 1994 when the PS1 and Saturn had 2 MB, and that's not including the work ram of the 68k and program ram for the Z80. They out in literally as much RAM as they could, which at the time was enough RAM to hold the entirety of many games from their library, and some games would only need to do loading for a How to Play or the Demo mode. Even after the Saturn added a 4MB RAM cart it still wouldn't match the amount of RAm the NGCD had.

>>7816859
In the US, SNK of the US delayed the launch of the system. In the EU and Japan, it came out in 1994, which was a great time because the PS1 wasn't the juggernaut it would be, and 2D games still mattered.

In the US, SNK USA delayed it because they wanted to rework their units with faster drives to improve loading, and SNK JP said they would do it, but it turns out that wasn't entirely the problem, and the units couldn't be reworked as such, so they just released the units a year and half later in 1996, well into the time when the PS1 was killing it with 3D graphics. They couldn't get a distributor anymore, so it was mostly direct or smaller retailers, if that.

>>7818320
The disc speed is one thing, but the architecture is the big issue. The system has to load a lot of data for that era. 7 MB as opposed to maybe 512 or 1 MB of other consoles in some of the worst cases. Data is going in and out of buffers, and further, none of these games are designed to be run this way, and are instead being retrofitted, so you have a lot of sub-optimal loading. They fixed it tremendously with the CD-Z by designing that whole architecture better, but it was way too late by then, and the system being 2D-only ended up being its biggest problem.

>> No.7818473

>>7812983
The Neo Chado

>> No.7818539

other consoles
> do not have windjammers

the neo geo
> does have windjammers

>> No.7818567

>>7818539
is it, dare i say, the greatest sports game of all time?

>> No.7818648

>>7818539
And then they make that shit windjammers 2.

>> No.7818827

>>7818567
yes
tho i played nhl 94 way more cuz genesis wasnt a gorillion dollhairs

>> No.7818862

>>7812983
It is the best console for fighters. Despite being a purist. I find MAME on a dual core CPU and flashed AMD GPU with tight settings on a CRT is just as good. I am so used to using a keyboard for fighters. I also have USB Saturn controllers for friends to use.

>> No.7818952

>>7818862
>Despite being a purist. I find MAME on a dual core CPU and flashed AMD GPU with tight settings on a CRT is just as good
that depends heavily on the rom in question, and the bios being used

at least for old capcom fighters, ive had better luck with fbalpha in terms of accuracy, and definitely in terms of ease of use
MAME gets the job done, and done well, 90% of the time. but that other 10% of the time is usually a fucking headache

>> No.7819063

>>7818446
Listen, look at this image here. >>7816370
In it you can even seen the ROM sizes. For the year it came out the average game was 200MB. For there to only be 7MB to load the game? Trash. That's why no one would put up with the 1x reading speed. They fixed their issue with cart prices but creating another issue with a weak console.

>> No.7819076

>>7813021
>jrpg is the only gender


...?

>> No.7819090

>>7819063
Those are megabits not megabytes.

>> No.7819124

>>7815492
southern euros are topkek

>> No.7819132

>>7816830
Exactly, it was way to expensive

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>> No.7819192

>>7819132
That wasn’t even my main point. You literally couldn’t go into a department store and find Neo Geo stuff unless you lived in a major city.

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>> No.7819894

>>7813021
>only gender
nice freudian slip. i wonder how much tranny porn you have to consume to get to this point

>> No.7819919

>>7813078
i'm sure this is far enough from the neo geo that the same team wasn't available but they have it in them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystalis