Why is this game so hard to find?

[Anonymous No.7784902]

There is not one single cartridge for sale on ebay

[Anonymous No.7784905]

https://archive.org/download/nointro.gba

[Anonymous No.7784907]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184832166271?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28

Took less than 2 minutes to find this. I almost feel like you don't even deserve this but I wasted my time so I'm going to post it anyway.

[Anonymous No.7784962]

>>7784902
>Why is this game so hard to find?
It's not. I have several.
>There is not one single cartridge for sale on ebay
There is. You're just retarded.

>>7784907
>Took less than 2 seconds

[Anonymous No.7784967]

>>7784902
just play the nes version. its better since it doesnt handhold and punishes the player for being shit

[Anonymous No.7785001]

>>7784905
holy shit thank you very much

[Anonymous No.7785015]

>>7785001
Newfag.

[Anonymous No.7785039]

>>7785015
at least he said thanks

[Anonymous No.7785060]

>>7784967
ill do ya one better and recommend super zero mission SM romhack instead
really excellent hack, and is quite difficult compared to any of the vanilla games, without going over the top into total romhack stupidity

going in blind its likely to take ~10hrs, and since its a pretty well-known hack, theres even fan-made maps you can look up if you get stuck

[Anonymous No.7785104]

>>7784902
I got this game for $38 last October. It was the "not for resale" version, but even that is going for double now.

[Anonymous No.7785120]

>>7784907
thats a bootleg... dont buy that garbage

[Anonymous No.7785209]

I don’t care how you decide to play it OP, you’ve made the right choice to play it.

[Anonymous No.7785306]

>>7785060
>recommend super zero mission SM romhack instead
based. it was one of my first sm romhacks with redesign, fucking loved it. also quite difficult like you said.

[Anonymous No.7785320]

>>7785306
you played vitality yet?
just started it yesterday
really pretty hack, and pretty decent difficulty. again, not over the top

dman really knows what hes doing
i liked eris and cliffhanger too, but for the average player of SM its almost unplayable due to the amount of random esoteric tricks youd need to know to complete them

[Anonymous No.7785321]

>>7785120
bootlegs work fine. It's not 1990 anymore. SOme of them even perform better than OG 90s carts. Why pay a scalper $50 when you can pay china $6?

[Anonymous No.7785331]

>>7785321
cope tranny

[Anonymous No.7785342]

>>7785320
>you played vitality yet?
yes. super zero mission and redesign got me so hooked up on smetroid hacks that I finished most of the "good" ones on metroid construstion. hyper metroid, redesign, z-faster, superzero mission, vitality, ascent.

vitality really got me at the end, I didnt expect THAT.

[Anonymous No.7785343]

>>7785321
Bootlegs often don't work and in the case of GBA they look retarded and feel cheap. Buy real thing or use a flashcart or emulate. Spending money on a bootleg is literally the stupidest of all options. It's low class and pathetic

[Anonymous No.7785347]

>>7785331
Go back to /v/ not a tranny, faggot.

[Anonymous No.7785359]

>>7785343
I dunno what bootlegs you've been using but if they're made correctly (with the edges rounded off and the board straightened)they perform fine on original hardware.
>Bootlegs often don't work
They do, if they're made correctly. You can even alter Chinese shit with a dremel&file to make it safe. People should take an electrical engineering course, if you learn how pcb works and how connectors interact with eachother, you'd be saving yourself a shitton of money in the longrun.

[Anonymous No.7785361]

>>7785342
>vitality really got me at the end, I didnt expect THAT.
aww man now i gotta go finish it

[Anonymous No.7785363]

>>7784967
>>7785060
>>7785306
>>7785320
>>7785342

I hope that hackers move to working on Metroid Samus Returns someday instead. That game has, in my opinion, a much more fluid and enjoyable gameplay and play control than Super Metroid.

[Anonymous No.7785384]

>>7785361
do it, the whole game is basically just a lead up to the end. really changes the way you think about this hack once you finished it.

[Anonymous No.7785390]

>>7785363
considering how they C&Dd the AM2R guy practically to death over making a romhack based on the same source material, its not likely for a while
no one wants to piss on the third rail
it was a decent game, but i honestly enjoyed AM2R more even tho im not particularly fond of the zeromission/fusion physics/controls

also, the reason SM has so many hacks in the first place is the wealth of resources to learn from, and tools available to build stuff with
for what youre asking to happen, it will take many years of fans working at taking that game, and the 3DS architecture itself, apart

[Anonymous No.7785394]

>>7785363
>That game has, in my opinion, a much more fluid and enjoyable gameplay and play control than Super Metroid.
I really missed the acceleration part in the movement. Its one of the reasons imho why quake for examples feels so much smoother than unreal tournament.

[Anonymous No.7785538]

>>7785394
>acceleration part in the movement

What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.7785597]

>>7785538
diff goy, but SM has a very specific feel to it due to how many frames it takes to get going, stop (unless of course you stop while holding angle up/down), turn around etc etc
once you get used to it after playing a bunch of SM, it can make other games with different physics feel much more stiff

same reason i tend not to favor the gba games
they look fine, but the feel is just a little off
purely preference of course, but its there

[Anonymous No.7785624]

I bought one and hardly touch it.
I just emulate. It's convenient.

[Anonymous No.7785645]

>>7785597
Interesting. I played through most of SM (I don't know where I was last, maybe close to Ridley fight) and one thing I specifically disliked was the movement and play control. Samus feels very stiff to me in that game, because of the exact things you pointed to as feeling fluid (startup on movement, etc.). I struggle, in fact, to understand how making movement actions take longer to do would make something more fluid, as opposed to less fluid.

[Anonymous No.7785808]

>>7785645
yea like i said its mostly preference and what you grew up playing
fluid might not be the right word
having momentum tends to make things feel more natural tho imo

for a non metroid ex, and one i hear often, try playing the original super mario on nes, then playing super mario land on gb back to back
smb has momentum. takes a while to get to top speed/to stop etc
whereas sml has none of that
as soon as you stop holding the d-pad, mario stops on a dime
a lot of early, more crude platformers had this issue, and to many it feels extremely unnatural

back to metroid
its subtle shit, and were talking like a difference of a few frames in a 60fps game so maybe a couple dozen milliseconds, but if youve played it a lot, its definitely noticeable

[Anonymous No.7785862]

>>7785808
That makes more sense then. I wouldn't say "fluid" but you definitely get used to the "weight" of the character. Mario in SMB is totally different than the later Marios, where they wanted to facilitate easier control. For me, SMB is good as well, and has a satisfying feeling when you are good enough to move Mario as if he is just as fluid as in the later games (where they hand it to you without so much as a single demand!)

As you say then, it is ultimately personal taste. For me, SM movement has too much delay to be enjoyable. I like Samus Returns as it makes for a very action-oriented and fluid game design.

I actually would really love to see that same game modified and released (as new titles, not just a reskin) with a different franchise than metroid, as I feel like the style of game and play control is not quite right for Metroid overall (the feeling was too much like that of an overtly action-focused game, where to me Metroid should be overtly exploration-focused) but I still really loved the action gameplay. If it were the basis of, say, a Turrican clone, or even just something that was similar but wasn't called Metroid, then they could fully explore a new framework of expectations for the players, and probably do more that was unhindered by the preexisting notions of what fans expect from a metroid game (my vote would be to ditch having so many obvious "use this beam" doors).

Plus, they could do more than one game in a blue moon, since Nintendo wouldn't be controlling the release cycle. I don't expect future games like this one though, which is why I ask instead for romhacks.

[Anonymous No.7785897]

>He didn't get it when it was new
Sucks to be you, OP

[Anonymous No.7785902]

wow, this game is super overpriced. I bought it new and beat it a few times, but never thought it was that special. GBA shit is kind of absurd as I look at it more. Too bad I sold it off a few years ago instead of waiting.

[Anonymous No.7785958]

>>7785862
you should maybe try some of the improvement hacks for SM
theres a lot of them that make the physics more snappy as well as speed up door transitions, change HUD/pause screen, change the ammo system, let you shinespark much quicker, let you bomb jump easier etc etc
just go to metroidconstruction.com and search for SM hacks and check off the "improvements" box, then read the various user reviews
patching it is ez af, just make sure you have an unheadered rom

or if youre feeling really ballsy, try the romhack "ancient chozo". pretty easy by romhack standards imo, and its WAY faster in terms of its feel, as its based on the improvement hack "project base" iirc. other than that, its something of a re-imagining of the original SM and relatively close to the original map.
and graphically its absolutely gorgeous

new turrican sounds fucking great tho
GL with nu-tendo ever giving you what you want tho. they havent been very kind recently to those whove taken their own time to re-build/fix their old games, even with no profit involved
like i said, give it a few years and check back. 3DS is a much more complicated system than SNES, and we know MUCh less about that games engine as the code hasnt been reverse-engineered like with SM. nor does it have as many nerds whove been tearing it apart constantly for decades

speaking of de-comp, im excited to see what the OoT de-comp will bring in terms of romhacks

[Anonymous No.7785972]

>>7785321
>buying a bootleg
fuck no. how poor are you?

[Anonymous No.7786002]

>>7785958
I'd really like to see OoT get an update visually, using the Ocarina of Time 3D models as a base, but also touching up the game to restore the various elements taken away for the 3D release (specifically, things they dropped in later N64 carts, like the red blood, the original fire temple music, and the original block/mirror shield imagery, but also things like the bloody textures surrounding the torture implements on Bottom of the Well/Shadow Temple).

I am not currently in a "metroid mood" but your comments are interesting. I've filed them away for later, in a long, long list of "maybes" to play at some point. Cheers for sharing them with me.

Samus Returns makes me wonder how much of the game was Nintendo and how much of it was MercurySteam. The last MercurySteam game I played was Castlevania Mirror of Fate on 3DS, and I was appalled by how they treated the CV series, but perhaps that was Konami, or perhaps more so it was my framework of expectations being utterly trampled on by the game's design and also its tone.

Maybe Nintendo straightened them out on making a great game, and maybe it was more Konami was a negative influence on the game. We will probably never know unless we get interviews with MercurySteam heads regarding the working relationships they had with each company.

Needless to say though, if it was MercurySteam/Nintendo quality of relations that produced Samus Returns, then I will be very sad that they will likely never work again. I'd love to see that seemingly harmonious pairing work again on a new game, even a new property, so that they could expand beyond the framework expected of a metroid game, and do things that were more in tune with a full-focused action platforming shooter.

[Anonymous No.7786018]

>>7785972
Why are you people so retarded? All that matters is that you can play it on original hardware. Miss me with paying $70 extra for a Nintendo seal of approval.

[Anonymous No.7786091]

>>7786018
buy a flashcard then

[Anonymous No.7786095]

>>7786091
Yes, everybody should buy a flashcard. If you want an individual cartridge with dedicated to one game that you can buy cheaply, there's nothing wrong with that either. Two different uses for flashcarts and individual repros.

[Anonymous No.7786102]

>>7786095
If you don't care about the authenticity then I don't know why you'd want an individual cartridge either. Unless you literally only want 2 or 3 games for your console.

[Anonymous No.7786104]

I am still getting amazed about Zero Mission. It was the first Metroid I've ever played and I was blown away by the pixelart quality and general amount of polish and details it received for a freaking 160p handheld screen. It is one of the best games overall. It is a pity so little hacks are done for it comparing with Super Metroid, no projects with the scope and quality of Vitality or Eris SM hacks.

[Anonymous No.7786105]

>>7786102
Because some carts go for $300? The authenticity is the fact that it's a physical medium and works on original hardware, not the manufacturer.

[Anonymous No.7786109]

>>7786104
I honestly think ZM has pretty weak art style. I always preferred Fusion.

[Anonymous No.7786135]

>>7786104
AM2R is literally a fusion hack iirc
and fusion/zm are the same engine from what i know
but thats one of the more comprehensive hacks for any metroid game ive seen desu

[Anonymous No.7786165]

>>7785321
I bought a ff6 bootleg cart and its difficult to insert and take out of the gba so cheaper isnt always better.

[Anonymous No.7786181]

>>7786135
>AM2R is literally a fusion hack iirc
It was made in Game Maker.

[Anonymous No.7786231]

>>7786181
my bad
it just has a lot of fusion mechanics

[Anonymous No.7786432]

>>7786231
Yep, AM2R is a standalone game. I was wondering why the dev didn't go with Super Metroud hack fir AM2R itself, but then realized, that you cannot really do bosses this way. Some SM hacks has astounding visuals and very different mechanics. But bosses suck (the same with minor visual changes) in all SM hacks.

[Anonymous No.7787332]

Zebes. Home.

[Anonymous No.7788075]

>>7785060
There were two absolute shit parts in this game. There was one point near the beginning where I needed an upgrade and scoured the map for it. Couldn't figure out any new areas or where to go so I ended up doing an infinite bomb jump in an area with collapsing floors and had to do it diagonally to get to the top left of the room. Took me 20 minutes but I did it and got a bunch of upgrades and it was smooth sailing. Then I got stuck in the area with Metroids floating around and during a cutscene type section you get latched onto and die in 10 seconds. I thought it was telling me I couldn't go through there so I spent another hour or two just exploring the entire map. Got fed up and looked at a guide. You have to get latched onto and then shoot and bomb your way through the glass to the left and even after knowing this it took me 5 tries because I kept dying as I was a couple frames away from the edge of the screen. Really frustrating but other than those two parts I had so much fun.

[Anonymous No.7789132]

>>7788075
>Really frustrating but other than those two parts I had so much fun.
thats romhacks, innit?

>>7787332
least it was before i went and blew errytang up

[Anonymous No.7789151]

>>7785060
>>7785306

Hyper Metroid > Super Zero Mission

[Anonymous No.7789158]

>>7789151
i can live with that desu

[Anonymous No.7789165]

>>7785972
Paying for overpriced shit seems more retarded when you could flashcart, buy a bootleg or emulate

[Anonymous No.7790386]

so i was just playing vitality again, trying to finish it
think i just accidentally sequence broke
i was splorin, trying to exhaust all my unfilled map corners, then found a gate facing the wrong way
i was pissed off i had went all the way there for nothing, so i did the gate glitch with my supers and then found mama turtle and screw attack
pretty sure im not supposed to have screw attack yet lol

[Anonymous No.7790656]

>>7786018
>Buy a bootleg
and the thing dies in a few years, if it even works right to start with
>>7786091
>buy a flashcard
and enjoy your shit battery life and black hole of soul

[Anonymous No.7792951]

>>7790656
I'll just call my bootleg a "repro" and that will magically make great and worthy of hipster worship.

[Anonymous No.7793064]

>>7790656
Yeah my battery life sucks in my snes and mega drive now since I started using a flashcart...

[Anonymous No.7793069]

>>7793064
This is a thread about a GBA game.

[Anonymous No.7793519]

>>7793069
Thanks anon, I forgot that minor detail... I am not just saying it to be awkward but I've not noticed any dip in battery life with an ez flash 4 - I do have access to an unlimited supply of duracell industrial batteries though

[Anonymous No.7793629]

>>7793519
Depends on the flashcart. The EZ Flash IV is an old design so it probably doesn't have a power-sucking CPU inside.