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RIP arcade-oriented games and Classic Sega.

>> No.7738262

It would be a lot better if most of its best stuff didn't get ported off the system.

>> No.7738294

>>7738262
This obsession with ports reeks of /v/. All sorts of consoles have great ports to and from other systems.

>> No.7738324
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>> No.7738357

>>7738324
90% of the library is shovelware you dope

>> No.7738367

>>7738357
Yeah well, you generally play only a fraction of a console's library anyway.

>> No.7738378

>>7738367
If you’re a faggot that doesn’t actually like video games, sure

>> No.7738381

>>7738261
>barely lasts for 3 years
Wow what a great system

>> No.7738384

>>7738324
Not retro and it's a dumpster fire of casual trash.

>> No.7738385

>>7738262
All the ports are worse because to means you’re no longer playing them on the Dreamcast, which makes all games inherently better.

>> No.7738398

>>7738378
Have you played every single Ps1 and Dreamcast game?

>> No.7738423

The irony being that this console's direct descendant ruined console gaming by bringing FPS faggotry into the mainstream using outdated PC hardware.

>> No.7738449

>>7738385
1. Even I think it has a crap controller.
2. Some are objectively better, like Skies of Arcadia or Sonic Adventure

>> No.7738460

It's an undead console anon, get with the program
https://youtu.be/ODqz_bP6d6Q

>> No.7738567

>>7738381
>>barely lasts for 3 years
>Wow what a great system

The console may have only been around for 3.5 years, but it has a larger game library than the N64.

>> No.7738568

>>7738261
that's not the ps2

>> No.7738598

>>7738449
>Skies of Arcadia Legends
>objectively better
Not with that horrid samplerate music it isn't.

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>> No.7738630

>>7738568
>ps2
muh shovelware
m-muh rpg garbage

>> No.7738774
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<--- the last great gaming console. Everything after was retarded 3D crap with input lag right out of the box

>> No.7738778

>>7738774
I directly compared samurai showdown 3 and 4 on the saturn hooked to a crt with a raspberry pi and it was so fucking laggy. Emulation sucks for anything that isnt turn based. Playstation sucks for 2d and lags as well!

>> No.7738783

>>7738778
>>7738774
I swear /vr/ is the only place I've seen where people even discuss lag like this. Are you fuckers just making shit up or are you really so anal that you notices that one nanosecond a normal human couldn't even register without the use of precision instruments?

>> No.7738794

>>7738783
orrrr... you grew up on laggy shovelware

>> No.7738805

>>7738460
I was expecting another shmup but this looks fun.

Dreamcast chads Rise up!
>>7738783
Lag is a very real issue but the Dreamcast is not a console to be bringing that up.

>> No.7738820

The xbox was Dreamcast 2. It filled that whole with Sega games.

>> No.7739670

>>7738630
The PlayStation 2 is undeniably the last great console.

>> No.7740998

>>7739670
What's so great about it? Muh metal queer? Muh final fantasoy? PS2 is overrated garbage.

>> No.7741018

>>7738385
Came here to say this

>>7738460
Based.

>> No.7741609

>>7738261
>RIP 15-minute long games where the only real draw is scoregrinding the same stage over and over
in what way is this a bad thing

>> No.7741616

>>7741609
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO GAMES NEED TO BE BLOATED WITH HOURS OF CUTSCENES AND BIG EMPTY WORLDS FOR ME TO LOOK FOR SHIT TO GRIND/FARM IN

>> No.7742012

>>7740998
Spoken like a true zoomer.

>> No.7742051

>>7742012
Ps2 is zoomy's favourite/first retro system they have the most nostalgia for, though.

Just look how shit the board's become ever since we allowed that trash on here.

>> No.7742071

>>7742051
I don’t disagree but I would argue it was also when they allowed the Dreamcast.

>> No.7742740

>>7742071
>I don’t disagree but I would argue it was also when they allowed the Dreamcast
The problem with Dreamcast is that it is a niche console, not many talk about it, but definetly retro. However, because people have to push the console generations meme, having the console on the board opened precedents to allow the other 6th gen consoles, which started the turboautism on this board.

>> No.7742776

>>7738783
>Are you fuckers just making shit up

Most of the time yes. But in this case no. If you go from playing heavily on Original Hardware to emulation, youll notice your inputs are delayed. "Wtf I know I did X or Y" then play it on OG hardware and your timing is normal. Its akin to playing a port of a game on another console, you played the one version a million times but on this console you arent cutting it.

>> No.7743047

>>7741616
I think that the Dreamcast could have definitely benefited from more games where you can just stop and take a breather or explore like Collectathon Platformers instead of constant nonstop linear arcade action. A good example from the Dreamcast itself is the city hub section from Sonic Adventure 1. They removed it in 2 and replaced it with a soulless level select which I thought was pretty lame.

>> No.7743053

>>7738261
Agreed

>> No.7743056

Dreamcast lacked big IPs outside of Sonic and Resident Evil. Meanwhile PS2 had GTA, Final Fantasy and FIFA/PES in its first year.

>> No.7743060

>>7738567
man the n64 was shit

>> No.7744003

>>7741609
>never has had a limited time and responsibility

>> No.7744203

>>7742051
ps2 isn't retro

>> No.7744287

>>7743056
who needs big IPs when you can have super fun and highly replayable games like crazy taxi, sega rally 2, outtrigger and zero gunner 2

>> No.7744293

>>7744287
I agree DC is a great system I'm just saying why it flopped

>> No.7744336

>>7744287
Man, Dreamcast was the last best co-op console. So many games to play with your friends that doesn't require shit internet. 4 niggas killing each other in Quake 3 Arena is probably one of my best memories.

>> No.7744413

>>7738262
Correct me if I’m wrong but I was under the impression that the Dreamcast original is still generally superior to ports for the most part.

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>>7738357
>>7738367
>>7738378
Why the Wii alone always gets shit on for shovelware I’ll never know. For every one great SNES or Genesis game back in the 90s, there were 20 of these.

>> No.7744440

>>7744426
Because there were a bunch more quality games to counter the shovelware back then.

Name 10 great Wii games you would unironically still want to go back to and play.

>> No.7744459

>>7744440
I suppose that’s fair although I heavily used my Wii to play a lot of PC Engine and Neo Geo games on Virtual Console as well.

>> No.7744520

>>7744440
New Super Mario Bros Wii
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
No More Heroes
No More Heroes 2
MadWorld
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Red Steel 2
Sin & Punishment: Star Successor
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Kirby's Epic Yarn

>> No.7744559

>>7744520
>epic yawn
>a game you literally cannot die in, perfect for zoomers that hate being punished for making mistakes

post discarded due to poor taste.

>> No.7744562

>>7744559
>post discarded due to poor taste.
Saves you a lot of arguing over legitimately good mentions, doesn't it?

>> No.7744567

>>7738378
what you've played every game?

>> No.7744571

>>7744559
Have you played the other Kirbys? They're piss easy.

>>7744520
Good list, there's tons others. The Wii is criminally underappreciated.

>> No.7744601

>>7744571
>The Wii is criminally underappreciated.
At least compared to the X360 and PS3 where console gaming lost all distinction and soul and turned into AAA multiplats.

>> No.7744625

>>7744562
Looking at the list there wasn't really anything amazing. Both No More Heroes games are better as ideas than actual games, their concepts are cool and leave a lot of room for interesting scenes and writing but between them is some of the most boring games known to man. Mad World too is really really cool for 10-15 minutes...then you realize that's all there is.

There's this contingent of interesting games on Nintendo systems that attempt to harken back to their creators earlier work, letting you know this time "they're back for real!" and the scam might have worked a couple of times - but we're so far removed from those games being market relevant that not even the shills need to pretend they come close to their best games. I actually find mad world's inclusion to be insulting at this point. It's not a good game. It's a 5/10 demo for an 8/10 idea that it goes NOWHERE with. Same applies to basically everything else on this list. It's just so hollow and gay.

That said I think these games are worth playing, but you will not escape the droning mind numbing you get from no more heroes. It'll stick with you for a long time. Still though, once you're done there's not much more to try there. The Wii's got the best library of the generation even if none of the games sold, the PS3's exclusives were definitely better - but I'll happily put on Elebits, play for 30 minutes before throwing on Tokyo Jungle to play for 4 hours. Then maybe play a little bit of Lost in Shadow for 20 minutes.

Sneaking those fucking awful nintendo games like DKCR or Epic Yarn is a sick fuck move though. Work on that.

>> No.7745497

Should I play the Dreamcast versions of Power Stone 1 and 2 or go with the collection on PSP?

>> No.7745559

>>7745497
If never played Power stone then try only the first one never bothered much with the second.

>> No.7745578

>>7745497
It runs like shit on psp.

>> No.7745589

>>7744440
>Name 10 great Wii games you would unironically still want to go back to and play.
Mario, Zelda, the list goes on...

>> No.7745595

>>7745589
kek

>> No.7745606

>>7744520
You cannot look at this list and think "yep, this is on par with the top 15 games from NES, SNES, N64 and GC", specially when many of them are literal ports. The Wii was terrible given how much it sold. Also I feel like there isn't a single post-GC Nintendo game worth playing because of how insultingly easy they are.

>> No.7746564

I've been playing Heavy Metal: Geomatrix, it's an arcade style third person arena shooter by Capcom. It's got an extremely cool visual style thanks to the HM license and it has awesome character designs by Simon Bisley. It also has a licensed soundtrack of various Metal bands that fits the setting perfectly. It's a little awkward at first but once you realize you tap the target button to switch targets and hold the button for free movement it really clicks. You run around frantically and grab weapons that run out of ammo/uses quick similar to a Beat em' Up, you can also use a melee attack, jump, dash dodge, use a super move and double jump/ hover around if you get the jetpack.

If you actually give it some time and get used to the controls it gets extremely fun. I think it's super underrated and definitely recommend it. I heard that there's a Spawn game also on the Dreamcast that plays similar to this title so I'm going to be picking that one up as well.

>> No.7746692

>>7745606
Wii was better than N64.

>> No.7746707

>>7744440
Wii Sports

>> No.7746710

>>7746692
No it wasn't

>> No.7746712

>>7746692
Absolutely not
Wii sux

>> No.7746732

4 player Chu Chu Rocket was a blast. All those sessions with friends that ended up with us screaming insults at each other.

>> No.7746749

>>7746692
I hope all your hatred ends someday, if you go in life saying stupid shit like that you are going to suffer a lot.

>> No.7746752

>>7744520
Zoomers really like soulless shit, isn't? And don't get me started with some games being fucking gamecube games. N64 was a fucking brave console.

>> No.7746897

>>7744413
Sometimes. Like I wouldn't advise playing the Xbox 360 version of Soul Calibur because the single player experience was wrecked.

>> No.7746904

>>7745589
>>7745595
Diagnosis: sneed

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>>7746749
>>7746710
>>7746712
Wii has Rockstar games, CoD, Sega games, Silent Hill, RE4, Tatsunoko vs Capcom. Donkey Kong, Megaman and Metroid games that don't suck.

The list really does go on.

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>>7746929
>Rockstar games, CoD

>> No.7747364

>>7746692
Truth. N64 vs. Wii is the millennial vs zoomer war in console form.

>> No.7747616

>>7744520
the list goes on...

>> No.7747785

>>7746692
>no Star Fox game
>no F-Zero game
>no Yoshi game
>no PilotWings game
>no Puzzle League game
>no Mystical Ninja game
>has the worse Bomberman games
>has the worse Resident Evil game
>has the inferior James Bond game
>has the inferior Sin & Punishment game

You couldn't be more wrong, Wiicuck.

>> No.7748271

Is Outrigger worth playing single player and using a controller instead of mouse and keyboard or is it only fun in multiplayer?

>> No.7748562

Do the Dreamcast ports of arcade Shmups add anything significant or should I just stick with playing them in MAME?

>> No.7748574

>>7747616
It's missing Zelda there.

>> No.7748575

>>7748562
I always play on MAME, but I tend to try the ports for any console in the hopes of finding some neat stuff.

>> No.7748609

>>7738774
Sega's last good console was the sega cd.

>> No.7748668

>>7748609
>FMV shovelware machine
>good
Even the 32X is better than that piece of shit.

>> No.7748748

>>7746929
>RE:4, now with waggle!
i'm pretty sure i agree with you but you picked some fucking weird examples

>> No.7748850

>>7747360
Better than Nintendo 64's FPS and Rockstar games.
>>7747785
>no Yoshi game
You say that like thats a bad thing.

>> No.7748859

>>7748668
If you cross off the FMV games it still has a library in the hundreds. A lot of the time you're simply playing the same game that came out on the Genesis earlier or at the same time, only with CD audio and possible some extra cutscenes.

>> No.7748868

>>7747616
It would if I put in more research, but I'm not gonna waste hours putting together longer lists just to prove a point on a Sudanese cartridge blowing forum.

>> No.7748926

>>7748850
>not liking Yoshi's Island or Yoshi's Story
Wtf is wrong with you anon

>> No.7749089

>>7748926
The crying baby and beeping noises. Why the fuck did Nintendo think that was a good idea? There's a romhack to get rid of the baby noises but it leaves in the fucking beeping. Zero interest in playing that game, I'd rather play something that doesn't rape my ears and has sounds I actually find pleasant.

>> No.7749165

>>7749089
just don't get hit lmao

>> No.7749187

>>7749089
Just listen to something else?

>> No.7749215

>>7749187
>just put it on mute
Great game...

>> No.7750324

How easy is the GDEMU to install? I have no experience with any ODE before. I hear some comments saying you need to do something the PSU or else it overheats?

>> No.7751706

>>7750324
You're better off using redream or flycast instead, Dreamcast hardware quality is garbo.

>> No.7751774

>>7750324
upgrading the fan would be more worthwhile than a psu mod for the gdemu imo

>> No.7751908

>>7751774
You don't like jets?

>> No.7752101

>>7738261
Sega consoles in general didn't have good exclusive lineups like PlayStation or Nintendo did.

>> No.7752323

>>7749089
git gud

>> No.7752349

>>7752101
You're right; Sega consoles had GREAT exclusive line-ups.

>> No.7752846

>>7751908
>>7750324
>>7751774
I just bought one with it and a fan mod already installed.

>> No.7753032

i've been on a journey to narrow down games on consoles to what i want to play, since i have all of my consoles with odes or flashcarts, it's kinda dumb to load everything on them.
so i hate rpgs, and anything non-arcadey for that matter. I've got to remove shadowman from my ode, and move sonic adventures to the pc for the time being. Anything i should throw in, or avoid for the dreamcast?

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>>7753032
Best racing game right here. Only issue is its in jap.

>> No.7753179

>>7753171
Congrats on not including the name of the game in your post you fucking retard.

>> No.7753181

>>7753179
You know you can easily do a reverse image search Einstein.

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Is the fan mod worth it for this piece of shit? Already recapped, battery and controller fuse modded.

>> No.7753270

>>7753171
thanks for rec anon, i'll check it out

>> No.7753279

>>7753171
Wow! maxresdefault! My favorite Dreamcast game!