/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.773768]

Is it me or is this game practically unplayable after you get used to SC2

[Anonymous No.773794]

it's you

[Anonymous No.773802]

>>773768
you should probably give up on gaming if you think that

[Anonymous No.773834]

It's you, SC1 is clearly better than SC2 especially as a spectator game.

SC2 is good, SC1 is godlike.

[Anonymous No.773868]

>>773768
The original had a god tier campaign. Who gives a shit about multiplayer? Brood War was worse but still not nearly as bad as the abomination that is SC2.

Plebs gonna pleb.

[Anonymous No.773862]

I managed to complete Warcraft 1 last month even without all the improvements from later games that I'm used to.

[Anonymous No.773879]

>>773868
the Terran and Zerg campaigns (episodes 1&2) were lackluster in my opinion, Protoss was really good with the whole civil war. Meanwhile, every single campaign in Brood War is terrific.

[Anonymous No.773876]

>>773868
The campaign story is fantastic, and the cutscenes are great... but the gameplay is just so bad.

Every level, except the few cool RPG-esque missions where you only get a few units and one hero unit, was just you building a base to steamroll a giant prebuilt base. There was no strategy except or incentive to beat each level except to see the next cinematic.

Also, having to manually tell an SCV to harvest minerals EVERY TIME was fucking the worst mechanic ever.

[Anonymous No.773890]

>>773862
I think that the campaigns get easier in the later levels because of those guys

[Anonymous No.773895]

>>773879
>Meanwhile, every single campaign in Brood War is terrific
LOL. No. I wont even bother.

[Anonymous No.773902]

>>773868
>who gives a shit about multiplayer
>plebs gonna pleb

This board got so bad in the last week.

[Anonymous No.773908]

>>773902
>/vr/
>caring about multiplayer
he is right, pleb.

[Anonymous No.773904]

>>773879
>every single campaign in Brood War is terrific
nope. kerrigan is made out to be a mastermind when in fact they had to make all the other characters dumb as fuck

[Anonymous No.773918]

>>773908
Yeah, because threads about multiplayer doom and quake aren't huge everyday here.

I enjoyed /vr/ while it was new and pure, it's now infected with stupidity.

[Anonymous No.773919]

>>773876
I'm glad you're still able to recognize it's value.

[Anonymous No.773921]

>>773890
Definitely. the first summon spell allowed for cheap bait and scouts and the second cleaned up the levels almost singlehandedly.
Catapults are also pretty dominant.
The most difficult part were the invisible units the AI send into your base but even they were more of a nuisance and could be blocked once you found a bottleneck.

[Anonymous No.773928]

>>773908
i can't think of something less pleb than multiplayer broodwar. It's probably way too hard for you.

[Anonymous No.773941]

>>773879
>Meanwhile, every single campaign in Brood War is terrific.
no. characters start acting retarded. tons of convulution for the sake of making up gameplay. UED is out of place and it makes no sense that the player is not even the same character unlike zerg and protoss where you are still cerebrate and executor

[Anonymous No.773952]

>>773879
the original was a self contained story and all the crap added on brood war just cheapens the experience

[Anonymous No.773960]

>>773928
i thought that /vr/ would be a place where we're able to see through the soul of games instead of looking at them as a mindless sport.

[Anonymous No.773967]

>>773960
The BW use map settings scene was pretty glorious.

[Anonymous No.773978]

>>773960

> the soul of games instead of looking at them as a mindless sport.

pls. I like multiplayer games because they're really fun and allow for crazy awesome shit to happen, and let you interact with your friends/opponents in great ways.

I don't see how the "soul" of videogames is a singleplayer experience.

[Anonymous No.773994]

>>773952
good to know that there are people who think like this

SC
>tassadar sacrifices himself to save his planet
BW
>LOL NOPE Aiur is still crawling with zerg and we need to evacuate anyway

[Anonymous No.774004]

>>773978
>I like multiplayer games because they're really fun and allow for crazy awesome shit to happen
>I don't see how the "soul" of videogames is a singleplayer experience
that kind of makes you a pleb

[Anonymous No.774009]

>>774004
and that kind of makes you a snob. but i agree idgaf about multiplayer the vanilla campaign is a masterpiece

[Anonymous No.774014]

>>773960

>i thought that /vr/ would be a place where we're able to see through the soul of games instead of looking at them as a mindless sport.

Don't be so quick to judge, anon. When the "eSports" scene started taking off, I was a total skeptic of everybody involved. I didn't see gamers, I saw people who played a single game all day every day, and probably didn't know shit about video games - and that is true for some, sure. But a lot of the western pro gamers are legit and play all kinds of vidya on top of the one they play professionally. I think that's great that they love something so much that even after it turns into a job, they still want to do it in their spare time.

[Anonymous No.774027]

>>774004

Enjoying playing videogames with my friends makes me a pleb?

Man, you must be really deluded to have to try justify your loneliness as superior.

[Anonymous No.774041]

>>774014
this guy gets it

[Anonymous No.774043]

>>774027

This.

For example, Baldur's Gate 1/2 are exactly the same when played single or multi. With multi you lose none of the soul and have all of the bros.

[Anonymous No.774049]

>>774027
art is too personal to be a collective experience

[Anonymous No.774053]

>>774043
No they aren't. You can play them at your own pace in single player.

[Anonymous No.774059]

>>774049

Too bad that art can very obviously and demonstrably be a collective experience.

[Anonymous No.774067]

>>773768
Baiting much?
>>773890
Also dem constant spiders/scorpions is fine too., keeping the enemy at bay.

Learning to use P(own) instead of A(ttack) wins most battles.
>Groups of 4
>P-attack
>Do it in quick succession
>???

[Anonymous No.774072]

>>774053

They're pause and play games. Unless you're either the slowest or most impatient fuck in the world, or you have a retard in your group (why would you take anyone but your best friends, anyway?) it's going to be fine. I played beginning to end with two bros and never ran into a problem.

[Anonymous No.774081]

>>774049

>art is too personal to be a collective experience

This must be why people regularly go to galleries, cinemas, book readings and concerts with friends and family.

[Anonymous No.774085]

>>773879
James Phinney was the lead designer of Starcraft vanilla and wrote the story with Chris Metzen. He left before Brood War so then Metzen took complete control over the story and obviously he fucked up. Needless to say he is the same guy behind the SCII garbage.

[Anonymous No.774096]

>>774085
It makes me so mad that Metzen always takes full credit for the story.

[Anonymous No.774104]

>>774096
I hope he gets cancer for tainting the Starcraft name with shit.

[Anonymous No.774119]

>>774104
No, hope all Blizzard Employees get cancer after ruining both WC & SC with sequels (for maaaaaanhi)

[Anonymous No.774137]

>>774119
>tfw blizzard will never make a new IP that isnt an MMO

[Anonymous No.774160]

>>774137
Mah Bnetz

[Anonymous No.774193]

>>773876
>manual scv mining

You wot ?

[Anonymous No.774268]

Played both. BroodWar still has the best multiplayer.

[Anonymous No.775401]

>>774268
Warcraft3* still has the best multiplayer.

[Anonynomus No.775435]

Brood War feels pretty smooth if you spend some time getting used to Warcraft 3's mechanics.

But yeah, SC2 will make any other strategy game feel clunky by comparison.

[Anonymous No.775438]

I found SC1 way, way more fun than SC2 because SC2 is all focused on builds and rushes with games lasting 5-8 minutes, and SC1 was all about actual strategy, with games lasting around half an hour. Much more enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.775441]

>Implying SC2 is playable

[Anonymous No.775448]

I hate Sc2 and I wish it would never have been released.

[Anonymous No.775463]

I dont care for multiplayer but im glad sc2 is failing to meet the expectations in this regard just for what it did to the story.

[Anonymous No.775608]

kerrigan was my first waifu

[Anonymous No.775727]

>>773768
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.775915]

>>773768
It probably has a lot to do with the awful aesthetics of SC1 and the horrid pathfinding worse than warcraft making micro a requirement for simple positioning.

[Anonymous No.775965]

>>775915
lolwut, WC1 has the worst pathfinding (not to mention using Ctrl for groups of 4!!1111oneeleven), WC2 comes second.

[Anonymous No.776023]

>>775915
>with the awful aesthetics of SC1
im sorry that you clearly dont know how to apreciate art. SC2 graphics are horrendous compared to SC1

[Anonymous No.776047]

>>776023
This is so true. Just compare terran aesthetics from BW and SC2. Wtf happened.

[Anonymous No.776049]

yes it is

[Anonymous No.776058]

You want a piece a meat, boy?

[Anonymous No.776061]

>>776047
>>776023
yep everything looks like plastic in SCII and the art direction is atrocious

[Anonymous No.776064]

>>776058
my wife for hire

[Anonymous No.776070]

>>776058
MY LIFE FOR HIRE

[Anonymous No.776124]

>>776070
remember when the protoss were a misterious group of religious warriors intstead of space elves?

[Kage !!CKhi3Y7AOqx No.776329]

I played SC1 + Brood War first(But I didn't play it until a few years before sc2 came out), played SC2 and I enjoy it loads more. Yes, the campaign is awful in terms of story compared to the first game, but Brood War's story was also mediocre.

I kind of want to call the nostalgia goggles on the Sc1 love. I won't deny that Sc1 is probably the best one, but SC2 is not horrible and it improves on SC1 in terms of gameplay a lot.

[Anonymous No.776347]

>>776329
lel

Go back to /v/, modern kiddo.

[Anonynomus No.776389]

>>776329
It's definitely nostalgia goggles, but you're not going to convince the fanboys otherwise; some have it permanently set in their minds that everything about the sequel is an atrocity compared to the legendary original. For some reason three years after the game's been released they still need to vent their frustration about it, and they've chosen this thread for that.

I love both, I've played through the campaigns of SC1 and BW at least a couple of dozen times, WoL a few times and HotS at least four times, and spent thousands of hours on each game's multiplayer. Both games have their shortcomings in different areas, and they play differently enough that I can't really say which one's best, not that I see any reason to do so anyway.

[Anonymous No.776405]

>>773994

Tassadar only killed the new Overmind. He didn't magically nuke all the zerg. That's like saying if you blow up all the leaders of a country it's stupid that there are still enemy soldiers in the country. It would have been retarded if they made all the zerg just die because the Overmind blew up near them.

[Anonymous No.776485]

>>776389
>It's definitely nostalgia goggles
Not only that, but some of our puters/laptops/low-end notebooks do not have the capacity to run newer games, thus sticking to what is available...

[Anonymous No.776496]

Have to agree with you OP. As smooth and intuitive SC1 was, the streamlined interface of SC2 is so silky in comparison. The game feels like it goes a lot faster too. I kept mixing up some of the unit production hotkey's when I went back to play the first one too, but I guess that's not really a fair criticism.

[Anonymous No.776514]

>>776061
I'm not the only one bothered by the fact that Protoss technology now looks like some crap out of War of the Worlds, am I?

[Anonymous No.776527]

I'm surprised there isn't a weekly Starcraft general here on /vr/ to relive the glory days of UMS maps (Snipers, Bound maps, Lurker/Marine/Whatever Defense, DON'T FUCKING MOVE, etc.)

[Anonynomus No.776546]

>>776485
Nothing wrong with that, but I seriously hope that none of the people in this thread that are outright bashing SC2 are doing so simply because they don't have a computer capable of running it.

[Anonynomus No.776552]

>>776496
It's a pretty legit criticism, seeing as they fixed it in SC2. "O" to build an overlord? Seriously? And "P" for Probe?

The most frequently used hotkeys in SC2 are all nice and close to each other, and if that's not good enough, everything is even fully customizable.

[Anonymous No.776560]

>>776546
Agreed, yet it is a good cause when modern games are mentioned brought up in /vr/ though.

[Anonymous No.776570]

>>773902
>last week
Try after the first day.

[Anonymous No.776689]

>>776389
>It's definitely nostalgia goggles
No. I played Starcraft for the first time 3 years ago.

>For some reason three years after the game's been released they still need to vent their frustration about it
It's like the original Star Wars and the prequels. Whenever you mention the concept "Star Wars" you can't not associate it with Jar Jar Binks, pod racing, etc. It angers me that SCII and, to a lesser extent, Brood War, taint the concept of "StarCraft" in the same way.

>Both games have their shortcomings in different areas
Exactly, but some people (me included) value certain areas much more.

[Anonymous No.776701]

>>776405
It cheapens the value of the sacrifice. starcraft2 bastardizes it even more by saying that the overmind was good all along

[Anonymous No.776716]

>>776514
It would be way better if it actually looked like that. The architecture of the Colossus is retarded.

btw, i prefer sc2 but i play multiplayer only so i couldnt care less about the story. i did the campaign once and the dialogue was painfull to hear

[Anonynomus No.776760]

>>776689
Why the fuck would you still care about the Star Wars prequels? Many people were disappointed, Lucas knows that many people were disappointed, case closed. You really shouldn't worry about that movie that you saw years ago that you didn't like.

Likewise, Starcraft isn't something holy that can be "tainted". Many fans of the original game enjoy SC2 greatly, and do not care to hear your bitter whining about it every time they wish to discuss the game. Just go back to the original game, play it, ignore the sequel, and stop being a downer.

[Anonymous No.776784]

>>776760
This thread is the testament that it's impossible to completly dissociate the two games. Unfortunately comparisons are bound to happen so just deal with it, like i have to ;_;

[Anonymous No.776794]

>>776760
>Many fans of the original game enjoy SC2 greatly, and do not care to hear your bitter whining about it every time they wish to discuss the game
the whole point of the thread was to compare the two

[Anonymous No.776816]

>>773862
It's still an amazing game even with the outdated controls.

I wish I could say the same for Dune II.

[Anonymous No.776871]

>>776784
>Deus Ex > Deus Ex sequels
>UFO > UFO: Aftermath
>Morrowind > Oblivion
>Resident Evil 1 > Resident Evil Remake
...etc, it's why people can't keep their modern shit on /v/. It shouldn't be that hard, REALLY.

[Anonymous No.776874]

The game is supposed to be practically unplayable.

Without the terrible controls and terrible AI to fight against there is much less difference between a poor, a good and a great player.

This makes the game horrible and frustrating to play once you are used to better control.

On the other hand it ruins the game because the difference in control skill matters so much less.

Then they tried to add in macro mechanics to SC2 so it wasn't utterly brainless to build up. This didn't work because it was still brainless (especially for Z and P) and it also broke the economic flow of the game and shortened the early and midgame.

[Anonymous No.776905]

>>776874
How about you fuck off now?

[Anonymous No.776923]

>>773902
Agreed, the last week or two has turned /vr/ into /v/, which is too bad as this is the only board on 4chan that I post on anymore.

[Anonymous No.776948]

>>776923
It was always going to be that way seeing as to how we share most of the same user base

[Anonymous No.777156]

>>776689
>It's like the original Star Wars and the prequels. Whenever you mention the concept "Star Wars" you can't not associate it with Jar Jar Binks, pod racing, etc. It angers me that SCII and, to a lesser extent, Brood War, taint
the concept of "StarCraft" in the same way.
exactly. this is why i hate most sequels. will blizzard ever make another ip that isnt titan?

[Anonymous No.777197]

a lot of the convenience or update changes in sc2 make the game feel terrible to play. The awkward fluid-like pathing, the unlimited unit selection, the relatively terrible contrast between the units and the terrain on some tilesets. And then you just had some design decisions like that flying air attacking zerg unit that had some interesting abilities throughout the beta, and then they rushed the game and ended up with the most boring unit ability in the game.

[Anonymous No.777237]

My only problem with SC2 is Blizzard is too focused on the balance for high end play, they don't give a shit about fun

Lots of cool units & abilities were cut because pro's had a cry about them

[Anonymous No.777282]

>>777237
>my only problem
>Blizzard
>Anti-cheat faggotry 1st
>New game (WoW, SC2, D3)
>Anti-cheat can go fuck itself for the older games, can't be bovvered to update
>Cheaters/bots/spammers going rampart on Bnet

Y U BUY BLIZARD GAEMZ?!

Idiots.

[Anonymous No.777482]

>>775608
mine too the infested version

[Anonymous No.777503]

>>777482
Zergy much?

[Anonymous No.777730]

>>773768
It's definately you hun

[Anonymous No.777830]

>>777282
>Cheaters/bots/spammers going rampart
do they enjoy playing a low tier faction?

[Anonymous No.777884]

cant wait to see the three races putting their differences aside to fight together against the dark voice in Legacy of the Void™ XD

[Anonymous No.777972]

>>776816
thats not war 1 is it

[Anonymous No.777976]

>>776874

[Anonymous No.778856]

>>776070
I thought they said Aiur

[Anonymous No.778879]

>>773768
I miss team melee....

[Anonymous No.778961]

>>776023
Jackson pollock isn't art and the video game equivalent isn't either.

[Anonymous No.778974]

>>773768
>Is it me or has this game been always practically unplayable compared to Total Annihilation
Fixed.

[Anonymous No.779631]

>>776124

They were always space elves

or at least based on space elves

[Anonymous No.779702]

>>779631
No. Space christians. Better yet, space templars.

[Alfhedil Elf-Hewer No.779736]

>>776874
This actually is a valid opinion. Starcraft: Brood War is a good example of an arbitrarily complex game, in which most of your actions do not reflect decisions as much as menial chores. In an ideal strategic or tactical game you want the player to do as much as possible with a single click or key press.

However, because it is so insanely complex, it allows for something that's very rare in the world of multiplayer gaming. Because optimal play is so far out of reach, you have people playing the same race on the same map in the same matchup, but to their own strengths. You have creative expression of the self at the highest level of play, and that generates a great deal of hype.

In the end, I wouldn't call Brood War the greatest RTS of all time, but I would definitely call it one of the most significant games and scenes in gaming history because of this tiny category that it managed to get into.

[Alfhedil Elf-Hewer No.779738]

>>779736
Oh, and this is my favorite Starcraft-related video not from Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcjQhig88wE

[Anonymous No.779752]

>>773768
Is it me or SC2 is totally boring and insipid after playing and watching BW ?

[Anonymous No.779756]

>>779752
To some degree. It is much better now with HotS than with WoL at least.

[Anonymous No.779760]

>>779756
Yes it's way better. As some people I had the hype of HotS when it was released. I played one season but I'm already bored of it. It's not only about units, I just find that the mechanics are too easy, too boring. The importance of the build order, the timing and the choice of units is too high. The games are really way more interesting and impressing to watch on BW. That feel when you win a macro game on BW, sweating, has nothing to do when you have hard countered an army by doing 1A2A on SC2.

[Anonymous No.779763]

>>779760
>That feel when you win a macro game on BW
Yeah, that is glorious. I still remember beating a B korean on ICCup, with my sick 2 hatch muta build and micro.
Then into lurkers, defilers and guardians and just ramming my cock up his base and raping the shit out of that bio scum.
I need to brush up on my BW skills before I go to korea. Would love to show them that whities can play BW as well and wreak their ass.

[Alfhedil Elf-Hewer No.779765]

>>779760
When I saw that KESPA players were dominating to such a degree in SC2, especially Flash, Rain, Roro, and Bogus, I had no choice but to join the hype. Then I realized that people were talking about the players more than the gameplay, the innovation, the way we were learning about the game through the top players. Throughout Brood War's history that was never the case.

[Anonymous No.779783]

>>779763
Aah the muta micro, one exemple of why BW is really more interesting. I forgot to mention all the tricks the players can do on this game. Patrol micro, stacked units etc...
>I need to brush up on my BW skills before I go to korea. Would love to show them that whities can play BW as well and wreak their ass.
Haha, especially that Korean hates losing foreigners. They really think they are superior (which it's true but still... xd). I can train your ZvT to rape some koreans in PC bangs !
>>779765
Well I remember on BW that people talked about players too.. But yeah we talked egually about what these players have changed in the game, like sAviOr and his 3 hatch muta, the Bisu build etc...

[Anonymous No.779794]

>>779783
>I can train your ZvT to rape some koreans in PC bangs !
How good are you? I have not played BW since the release of SC2, but I was almost B- at that time, and solid B with my ZvT. But now I see that they go more mech, I hate mech, it is the worst used to play against. So hard.

[Anonymous No.779803]

>>779794
I was B- before SC2. I'm back on BW for some months and I reached C+. My TvZ is pretty decent, but my TvP is terrible xd.
Yeah now Terran switch mech by taking their third base. It's really powerful, but I hate doing this, it's strange to play. And if you're doing it badly it's... bad. I favor the old good SK Terran in late game (however the french Skterran is not as good as the Korean Skterran).

[Anonymous No.779810]

>>779803
Ha, so it is you? Gulio?

[Anonymous No.779817]

/vg/ plis go

[Anonymous No.779823]

>>779810
lolwut ? Almost! My nick is glio (or glioburd)

[Anonymous No.779829]

>>779823
Yeah, sorry about that. Maybe we can play again one day. But at the moment I really dont have much time. And I need to study hard next semester as well.
But only B-, so you have not improved much the last 3 years then? Or is ICCup so much harder now, now that only the Koreans are left?

[Anonymous No.779843]

>>779823
But maybe we can play after the summer Glio.
It is me Neivler, if you did not catch it already.

[Anonymous No.779846]

>>778974

[Anonymous No.779881]

>>779829
>>779843
rofl, Neivler haha it's a small internet. No problem mate, I also have to study hard these times. When you want play, tell me on iCCup.
Well no I have not improved at all the last 3 years, since I played SC2. That does not help at all for BW. And now I just play BW from time to time.
>It is me Neivler, if you did not catch it already.
How the fuck could I catch it ? xd

[Anonymous No.779948]

>>778974
Do you play it with the Escalation mod? Shit gets crazier with it.

[Anonymous No.779965]

>>774081
Don't be silly anon, those things aren't art.

[Anonymous No.780115]

>>779881
I saw you on the /v/ chat one time, and then you said you were from france. I knew it was you.

[Anonymous No.780154]

Shouldn't have even played sc2 past the campaign in the first place

[Anonymous No.780430]

>>780115
You're a smart detective, Neivler[ZzoA].

[Anonymous No.781407]

am i the only one who loves the story and doesnt care about the multiplayer?

[Anonymous No.781439]

>>781407
just make sure not to love the brood war story, as you can see ITT it will get you into trouble

[Anonymous No.781490]

>>777972
Yeah, a very early alpha version.
>tfw you'll never know what it was really like

[Anonymous No.781521]

>>781490
Early alpha Starcraft was far more interesting.
Back when the Zerg were the "nightmarish invaders".

[Anonymous No.781561]

>>781521
Ehh, Orcs in Space is pretty interesting, but I always preferred the ominous vibes that the first WarCraft had to StarCraft's. For me, no other Blizzard game has been able to capture the atmosphere that it had. That's pretty good considering the derivative fantasy world it takes place in.

[Anonymous No.781575]

>>781439
just read the whole thread. yeah it's inferior to the vanilla but i can still enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.781958]

>>781575
im still waiting for explanations on why brood war's story isnt as good as the original

[Anonymous No.782367]

>>781521
any chance of playing any of these early builds?

[Anonymous No.783670]

>>781958
play it yourself and use your brain

[Anonymous No.783691]

>buying Starcraft for the single player campaign

WHY

[Anonymous No.783737]

obviously it's unplayable

sc2 everything is handed to you. it's the lazy version

[Anonymous No.784076]

>>783691
>buying Starcraft1 for the single player campaign
completely understandable

>buying Starcraft2 for the single player campaign
lol nope

[Anonymous No.784416]

>>781521
omg i wanna play this

[Anonymous No.786061]

>>784076
>buying Starcraft1 for the single player campaign
>completely understandable
lol no

>MUH STORYYY
noobs

[Anonymous No.786093]

Diablo I > Starcraft I > Warcraft III > Diablo II > Warcraft II > Starcraft II > Warcraft I > WoW > Diablo III

My opinions are excellent so I would advise other people not to argue with them

[Anonymous No.786170]

>>786093
Starcraft > Diablo II > Warcraft III > Warcraft II > Diablo > Warcraft > Diablo III > Starcraft II > WoW

[Anonymous No.786208]

>>786170
I thought D2 was all about farming. Can't imagine why you have it so high. You generally just farmed and hoarded your items. Big contrast with DI. It's cool as a single player game to play through a few times though.

[Anonymous No.786213]

>>781521
That is legit just a reskinned Warcraft.

[Anonymous No.786247]

>>786208
soul, story, setting, atmosphere, trumps everything else

[Anonymous No.786249]

>>786213
it would have been cool for an early starcraft to have existed. imagine if starcraft was first then warcraft

[Anonymous No.786265]

>>786247
But Diablo I did ALL of those things way better.

[Anonymous No.786285]

>>786265
you are wrong. that is all

[Anonymous No.786301]

>>786285
Diablo II was all about rushing into the middle of your enemies and AOEing them down with bright and flashy effects. Get all your helath back through life leach and move on to the next gropu.

Diablo I was about feeling vulnerable in a creepy labyrinth. You walked everywhere, you lost your items, you hid behind doorways and barrels. You didn't run around the jungle and desert like you did in the sequel.

Diablo 2 fags are the worst.

[Anonymous No.786320]

>>786170
>>786093
you both have starcraft high and starcraft2 low so you're both decent gentleman.

fuck brood war tho

[Anonymous No.786618]

>>779631
>>776124
>>779702
Space Elves? As in 40K Eldar? I could kinda see it, though it's almost obvious Terran were ripoffs of Space Marines/Imperial Guard and Zergs were blatant ripoffs of Tyranids.

[Anonymous No.787653]

>>786265
doesnt change the fact that its boring as fuck

[Anonymous No.787935]

>>781521
Looks like they were inspired by early alpha SC when designing SC 2 zerg....no wonder they look shit.

[Anonymous No.787940]

>>776701
...and making it so tassadar didn't really die, he's a ghost now

[Anonymous No.787986]

>>787940

As bad as it is, my biggest rage against SC2's story is this complete media domination that Mengsk seems to have, where aside from Raynor and his enlightened group, everyone seems to have forgotten what a scumbag he is.

I mean, the Dominion's been around for what? 4 years? 5? People don't forget that fast, it's retarded. And how did they build up a fleet that seems to at least be able to challenge the Zerg so fast? Korhal being Kerrigan's hardest battle yet, absurd. Surely it was tougher back when the UED held the planet with their pet zerg to back them up.

[Anonymous No.788221]

>>773768
>Is it me or is this game practically unplayable after you get used to SC2

lol no
>MUH PROPHECIES
>MUH RETCONS
>MUH BAD DIALOGUE
>MUH PLOTHOLES

[Anonymous No.788609]

>>788221
>caring about singleplayer

[Anonymous No.789084]

>>786170
> Diablo III > Starcraft II

[Anonymous No.789543]

>>789084
turd > diahrrea

[Anonymous No.790540]

>>786618
If you want to talk about rip-offs you probably shouldn't just lash out at the biggest fish in the water bro. SC ripped off many things which ripped off other things and has since been ripped off. You want Starcraft, look at Starship Troopers.

[Anonymous No.790550]

>>790540
playing starcraft for story is kind of stupid,
the game is just completely based upon 1v1 matchmaking

[Anonymous No.790598]

>>790550
>ignorance

[Anonymous No.790635]

>>76170
>WC3 >> Diablo
Good one.

[Anonymous No.791548]

>>790550
top lel

[Anonymous No.792406]

>>790635
you're delusional if you think otherwise

[Anonymous No.793686]

>>791548
i bet you're bronze league

[Anonymous No.793696]

What are the main differences between SC1 and 2 aside from graphics and campaign?

SC2 here is on sale at my local EB, from $100 NZD to somewhere less than $50.

[Anonymous No.793708]

>>793696
SC1's terrible 90s interface, as in
>can only select 12 units at once
>AI of workers is so stupid you have to manage them individually

SCII is more streamlined, besides that its basically the same, oh and it has an actual online community if you went on bnet for scI it would be 100% korean dudes who would rape you over the worst connection imaginable

[Anonymous No.793710]

>>793708
I think I've heard enough horror stories about Koreans

[Anonymous No.794195]

>>790550
>playing starcraft for story is kind of stupid
i hope you get aids

[Anonymous No.794547]

>>773768
it's you. the gameplay might feel outdated but play the singleplayer campaign and you're sure to enjoy the experience

[Anonymous No.795521]

>>794547
>play the singleplayer campaign
>playing starcraft by yourself
loser

[Anonymous No.797148]

>>795521
gb2 /vg/

[Anonymous No.797175]

>>797148
>>795521
>>794547
>>794195
>>793710
All this samefagging. Arguing with yourself is kind of pointless anon. /Vr/ might be slow, but it's not that slow.

[Anonymous No.797231]

Hey guise, i just stepped into this thread and i see it's full of cancer saying sc2 is better than sc1. I don't know what would you think, but i'm gonna report this shit.

If you really like sc2, go play sc2. sc1 is still an awesome game and requires much more skill than sc2. If you want to keep this debate further, i recommend you to go argue on >>>/v/.

[Anonymous No.797241]

>>797231

So, a thread about how Sc1 is better than Sc2 is ok, but not the reverse?

Wow, you're dumb.

[Anonymous No.797246]

>>797231
>mommy, mommy the kids are saying stuff I don't like

[Anonymous No.797249]

>>797241
Not really, but i think the point of this board is to discuss retro games, not how newer games are superior to retro games.

[Anonymous No.797274]

>>797249

Which is itself a point on retro games. "I think modern Rpgs/shooters/strategy games/ whatevers are better than retro games" is still talking about retro games, and in fact, is kind of an implicit backdrop in any discussion of retro games.

Stop trying to be thought police.