Was Sonic and Knuckles good on it's on?

[Anonymous No.7708893]

[Anonymous No.7708897]

>>7708893
i'd put it above sonic 1 but not 2

[Anonymous No.7708910]

Yes, overall it's the stronger latter half of Sonic 3 with a bit more content.

It's also remarkable how through lockon technology, what was effectively expansion content for Sonic 3 was also a stand-alone game in its own right.

[Anonymous No.7708962]

Sonic & Knuckles was the first DLC
xD

[Anonymous No.7708970]

>>7708962
You download nothing, anon

[Anonymous No.7709369]

>>7708893
Yes except in one area. That cartridge couldn't save, so playing it was a bitch.

[Anonymous No.7709372]

>>7708962
You mean expansion pack, and even then I think you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.7709483]

no water levels tho
also best sonic's buddy tails magically absent

[Anonymous No.7709519]

Neither it or 3 were enough on their own to justify a full price release.

[Anonymous No.7709625]

>>7708893
Yes. Even as only half of the full game, look at the zones it encompasses:
>Mushroom Hill Zone
>Flying Battery Zone
>Sandopolis Zone
>Lava Reef Zone
>Hidden Palace Zone
>Sky Sanctuary Zone
>Death Egg Zone
>The Doomsday Zone

All of these except Sandopolis are fan favorites and some of the most well-liked in the complete game. In terms of branching paths, Mushroom Hill might have the most in all of S3K. Flying Battery isn't as deep but has pretty unforgettable style and music. Lava Reef/Hidden Palace through Sky Sanctuary are loved by most people as these interesting mystique-building areas with great music, although honestly I only really like Sky Sanctuary among those. Then Death Egg and Doomsday are in this game, which is the bigger, better finale compared to Sonic 3. Frankly the only really standout first-half zones are Hydrocity and Launch Base.

Also, you have the Knuckles routes in this game, and the Tails routes in Sonic 3, and comparing those, the Knuckles ones are a much different game from Sonic's while Tails only gets to fly up some spiky column areas intermittently while having to otherwise follow Sonic's route.

[Anonymous No.7709714]

>>7709625
>not praising best level ever a.k.a sandopolis
discarded

[Anonymous No.7709760]

>>7708893
The mag I used to read absolutely demolished it, considering it a weak title even with lock on, giving it a lower score than spinball.
Definitely a shitty mag led by graphics whore too busy fapping to 3d games.
Personally, I always loved it and considered it like >>7708897

[Anonymous No.7709768]

Better than S3 by a long shot

[Anonymous No.7709828]

>>7708893
Sonic and Knuckles has levels that are less visually interesting than 3, but I think they're more fun than 3.

[Anonymous No.7709830]

>>7709828
I also forgot to say I hate how nearly nobody brings up how you have to play through the harder special stages in order to get Super Sonic.

[Anonymous No.7709878]

>>7709625
Sandopolis Act 1 has the best song no one remembers. I love to play with the sound channels on emulator and listen to its discrete parts. Really cool song.

[Anonymous No.7709938]

>>7709714
Look, I don't personally think it's bad, but I'm talking about what most people like most in the game; most people don't like Sandopolis, and most people like Lava Reef even though IMO it's an annoying slog. I'm doing this because a broad concept of "good" isn't about what I personally like, it's about what most people can like. Otherwise it's me talking about niche appeals like other people are supposed to understand it.

[Anonymous No.7711247]

bump

[Anonymous No.7711293]

back in the day i got S&K. my friend lent me his S3 cart and i thought it had way better presentation. but that said, weirdly i never got much of a kick from S3… i liked Hydrocity, its just classic sonic action, but then theres Marble Garden with its weird slopes and after that it takes a plunge with Carnival Night which i cant stand.
I used to imagine S&K would be a half-assed little brother to S3. but the more I played, the more I realized how good the first 2 zones were. I just hated Sandopolis Zone 2 because it was (and to be honest still is) challenging to me. I never hot to lava reef.

[Anonymous No.7713291]

It's better than Sonic 3, so I always thought people saying that it was DLC or an expansion pack were full of shit. It's a full length Sonic sequel.

[Anonymous No.7713298]

>>7708962
zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.7713329]

>>7708893
It's a much, much better game than Sonic 3 on its own. Sonic 3 has half of its stages being godawful or mediocre, whereas S&K doesn't have a single bad one. It's also longer than Sonic 3, which is hilarious.

Any time I play S3&K I'm just waiting for the S&K half to start once Hydrocity is over.