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752454 No.752454 [Reply] [Original]

Well, lets see if we can have a legitimate, coherent argument, that actually relates to the OP this time.
>inb4 more argument about age groups.
This isn't to debate the merits of the hipster generation, or 80's kids. I want to know how long the current retro game economy will exist in this state. Please don't make me delete this thread too, as I genuinely would like an answer to this.

>How will/do re-releases, either on Virtual Console or as an HD remake affect the value of games.
>How long will the retro boom last, assuming that it is indeed a fad.

>> No.752468

IMO, it's not a fad, retro games are and always will be the best. The video game industry turned to shit. Nobody cares about making good games anymore, they just want money. Call of Duty is a major example of this.

>> No.752467

No one fucking knows.

/thread

>> No.752480

The virtual console and other similar things have zero effect on the value.

Roms have been free and easily accessible for a long time now. None of the people paying $100+ for SNES games cared about it then and they won't later.

People will always want the physical system and cartridge to relive their childhood and satisfy their nostalgia.

I can see the retro boom getting so big that the market artificially kills itself from prices going too high, but that will self correct in time.

>> No.752485

>>752468
Agreed, but that's not really what's causing all this. The problem is that there's a fairly large group of people willing to pay exorbitant prices for games so that they can post pictures on facebook to show everyone what a huge nerd they are.

>> No.752497

>>752485

Those people are just the hipsters and they do represent a fad. From what I've seen, most of those people do what retards in every hobby do, which is they get into bidding wars on ebay and over pay for shit that they just have buying fever for and only use for a short period of time.

The good news is that people who do this will quickly liquidate their "collection" whenever they need money.

>> No.752502

>How will/do re-releases, either on Virtual Console or as an HD remake affect the value of games.
For poorfags, it'll be enough but people who have plenty of disposable income it will always be viable to purchase the expensive as shit rares.

>How long will the retro boom last, assuming that it is indeed a fad.
As long as the generation (20-40) holds it in high esteem. We're closer to the start of the bubble rather than the end. The economy's perception might have put a crimp on it but it isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

>> No.752506

>>752485
Normalfags already ruined gaming, now they're going to ruin retro gaming too?

>> No.752515

I wonder what would happen if a company like Sega or Nintendo decides to relaunch some of their old consoles, and some games too.

>> No.752541

>>752515
If it counts, Nintendo did reprints of F-Zero recently.

>> No.752542

The retro bubble will never pop, prices will only get worse.
There will always be at least two retards on ebay willing to overpay.

>> No.752553

>>752515
Assuming they actually market said objects, and sell them in major stores, a killing. It could also potentially make the origional carts go up even further in price.
>L@@K RARE VINTAGE SUPER NINTENDO SNES NES GAME PRE-REMAKE 1996 BUY NOW FUN!!!

But Sega actually already licensed the "Firecore", which is basically an official version of a retrocon. It hasn't done very well due to inaccurate emulation, incompatibility with the 32x+SegaCD, and no save function.

>> No.752560

>>752541
>reprints of F-Zero
Oh boy, reprints of a game so common that you can find sealed shipping boxes of sealed product for less than the cost of other games loose.

>> No.752580

I have a box of 400 loose atari 400 cartridges, and two working atari 7800s with the original plug... maybe in another 10 years it'll be a Big Deal. But the thing is that atari cartridges are hard to kill, and well-stored they'll last forever... so the only ways I think they'd really go up in value is if lots of collections were destroyed or discarded, or if the number of collectors increased.

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>>752541
>reprints of F-Zero recently.
wait, you mean they manufactures fucking rom cartridges? i skeptic you.

>> No.752601

>>752592
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZf82mMbs0U

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>>752580
>400 loose atari 400 cartridges
atari 400? you mean the computer?
>two working atari 7800s with the original plug
Atari's are an odd thing to price. I've seen $50 auctions with 20+ bids right next to a $10 auciton with 0 bids. And if you're looking locally, things get even weirder. One woman sold me a 2600 w/30 games for $10, while another wanted me to pay $500 for the console alone. pic related.

>> No.752832

>>752601
why? where was it sold?

>> No.752847

>>752454
I thought the janitor deleted the old thread

>> No.752862

>>752502
>As long as the generation (20-40) holds it in high esteem. We're closer to the start of the bubble rather than the end
Oh look, another butthurt 30 yo virgin who's trying to dictate what others collect.

>> No.752869

>>752862
you do realize you're arguing with a tripfag

>trips
>human

>> No.752876

The retro boom will end when hipsters move on to something else. Remember that these guys are usually not nostalgiafags and most were born in 1991-94. They do whatever AVGN tells them to do.

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752884

>>752862

>not even 25

Oh, Anon. Stop making me blush. Nobody is dictating anything, these people have disposable income, most people under 21 don't.

But then again you're just trollin'.

>> No.752898

>>752884
I think you might be confusing "more money than sense" with "disposable income".

>> No.752915

>>752468
Obligatory post saying the early CoDs were good.
But yes Call of Duty is a perfect example of a game being made to make money not being made to be fun, enjoyable or impressive.

>> No.752920

>>752898

What's the difference?

>> No.752926

Does anyone else think the upcoming console generation could potentially crash the industry again? Would this drive up demand/prices for old stuff or will this generation cause people to lose interest in games entirely? Has the casual market that made the Wii so successful already moved on to something else? Aren't there already people that have decided to skip this generation to start collecting retro vidya instead?

>> No.752928

>>752884
In this economy, I kind of question the whole "jobs/disposable income" thing

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>> No.752942

>>752936
>mariokart 64
>great when 6 years old!
Are you referencing neo-/v/ in this one?

>> No.752943

>>752928

The economy has put a crimp on people's purchasing power but since I still have to wait in line at the movie theater/restaurant/amusement park every weekend, it's not that bad.

It's certainly a lot better than it was 6 month ago.

>>752926
Only way to tell is how the next generation does. I know my motivating factor for buying old shit is the cheapness and playing shit I've never tried as well as convenience. Plus it's fun to hunt for stuff and sell what I don't want, since I'm out reselling other shit like pencil sharpners and clocks anyway.

>> No.752949

>>752942
If you were 6 years old when it came out (1997), you could be 22 now

>> No.752953

First we get some surgery,
Lose the kids then our identities
But one thing I know for a fact, mustache stays right where its at.
REO Speedwagon, Kansas to Boston.
My ankle bracelet, already gone and lost it.
Them yellow jackets keep the tired man from slacking.

Stole my Camaro, primer gray.
Took my suitcase, all my pay.
Ain't got no taillights, grill full of fur.
How could you do this to a man so close to being cured?

We should get together and talk it over
At the Detroiter.
Delaware Destroyers, rocking with Dokken.
You front the money and I'll do all the talking.
Them yellow jackets keep the tired man from slacking.

Stole my Camaro, primer gray.
Took my suitcase, all my pay.
Stole my Camaro, primer gray.
Took my suitcase, all my pay.
Ain't got no taillights, grill full of fur.
How could you do this to a man so close to being cured?

Come a little closer honey, I won't bite ya.
One more lager and I might learn to like ya.

Stole my Camaro, primer gray.
Took my suitcase, all my pay.
Stole my Camaro, primer gray.
Took my suitcase, all my pay.
Ain't got no taillights, grill full of fur.
How could you do this to a man so close to being cured?
Ain't got no taillights, grill full of fur.
How could you do this to a man so close to being cured?

>> No.752959

>>752862
How old are you, fifteen?
>>752898
>sense than money
Oh lawd, lecturing economics on 4chan. I have a disposable income myself, I don't have to emulate shit.
Then I suppose talking about having a mortgage and having >40k income makes a difference for all the 95+kids here still pushing carts (if even that).
Stay mad kids. Work hard this week, mommy may even give you an allowance!

>> No.752963

>>752936
Why do I have to play old PC games to count as a retro gaming patrician

>> No.752968

>>752959
You don't have a job, neckbeard

>> No.752974

>>752949
I'm older than 22, and have been on 4chan too long. I really don't feel what meager powertrip a bunch of underagers and under 20s preach their age on this board is if it revokes them from being either
>hideously out of shape
or
>a dumbfuck
If you're acting like being born after 1993 is somehow a badge of honor when it comes to playing "retro" games you're being god damn retarded.

>> No.752975

>>752926
I think that the crowd that was brought in by the Wii and Xbox 360 is going to lose interest eventually. I remember being fairly pissed as games started to shift towards COD's business model, but people still buy annual releases regardless. I'm not saying that earlier generations of consoles shit unicorns and rainbows everywhere but I just don't see myself replaying anything from the current generation any time soon. I think it has a lot to do with the growing rate at which new entries in series are created. So yeah I think the industry is going to cave in on itself just like last time.

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>>752963
Oh you know...

>> No.752985

>>752968
>dat asspain
stay mad baby.

>> No.752992

>>752975
People have been predicting the death of video games every year for over 20 years now

>> No.752993

>>752974
How is being born after 93 a badge of honor?

>> No.752996

>>752993
because "heh heh we kewl ironic l33t hispters and not fat nostalgiafag neckbeards"

>> No.752997

>>752993
Its not, re-read the post. People on this board lately who are born after that have been major attention whores and self-perpetuating "victims" of being picked on by the 20+ crowd. Its hilariously pathetic.

>> No.753004

>>752997
Seems to me that 30 yo neckbeards are the insecure guys here

>> No.753001

>>752992
I didn't say they would be gone for good. Honestly, I think if/when there is another crash we'll see something similar to what Nintendo did to ensure the things would sell. Again there were some shitty NES titles but they revitalized the market as well.

>> No.753000

I used to be an edgy 14 yo ten years ago. Used to be so edgy in fact I'd irritate my sister by saying that Vice City was less of a game than Montezuma's Revenge.

>> No.753007

there's not going to be another crash because we don't have the mass of literally unplayable broken games as in 1983

>> No.753010

>>753007
Also I think video games have been too well ingrained into the culture by this point for people to believe like they did in the 80s that they were a passing fad

>> No.753021

>>753004
>30 yo neckbeards
A)I'm not over 30
B)Nice way to out yourself, insecure hipster. Stop being a faggot.

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753026

>op pic

Needs more Wico.

>> No.753098

Sorry OP, looks like you need to delete your thread again

>> No.753112

>>753098
^This

>> No.753316

>>753026
Wico joysticks were like tanks, they could really take a beating.

>> No.753362

OP deleted his last thread after calling me a MLP fapper. Fuck you kid carts are worthless.

>> No.753381

>>753362
Shut up MLP fapper

>> No.753450

>>753098
>>753112
I was too busy playing my Gen. to monitor the thread. I now see that was a pretty stupid idea.

>>753362
I posted twice in the last thread, and once in this one (>>752553 ), I dont even remember MLP being mentioned.
It's funny how every time I've made a thread expecting an actual discussion, its turned into /v/ level shit-flinging.
How about we completely drop the subject of people's age, and address the questions I asked. To which, I still have not gotten a clear answer.

>How long will the retro boom last,
>-and-
>Is there any evidence that virtual console releases cause prices of game's to drop/rise.

>> No.753485

>>753450
>5 more years.
>No.

>> No.753531

>>753450
>How long will the retro boom last
That's like predicting stocks; no one knows for sure.
>Is there any evidence that virtual console releases cause prices of game's to drop/rise.
If Earthbound is any sign, I doubt it. IMO, it's like with music: people download it all the time, but if they like something enough, they'll buy a physical copy of it. If anything, it's going to spread the word of Earthbound to the mainstream and generate more demand.
Then again, I don't see the mainstream really digging a wacky JRPG, but I'm not partial to the genre, so what do I know.

>> No.753574 [DELETED] 

Nostalgiafags are shitty collectors. People who didn't play games as kids are superior because they're not biased.

>> No.753612

Two things to consider, though they arguably cancel each other out ins some contexts.

People who grew up on games in the 80s and 90s now have careers, disposable income, and a place of their own (where mom has no jurisdiction over.) So they're willing to pay for some of these games.

Emulation and virtual consoles has to some degree driven down the "need" for some to get the real thing. There was a time I could list a 2600 system with maybe two dozen games on ebay and get in excess of $150 for it. Then 2600 emulation actually got good. Within a year I was lucky if I could get $50 for the same set; I was basically breaking even on it. Though I admit I haven't sold a 2600 in maybe 6 years so I'm not sure of the prices now.

>> No.753626

>>753612
>People who grew up on games in the 80s and 90s now have careers, disposable income, and a place of their own

The economy is fucking shit and there are no jobs and no money and scores of younger people still live with their parents. What world are you living in?

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>>753626
I'm not kidding

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>>753626

>> No.753657

>>753626
>What world are you living in?

His mom's basement

>> No.753661

>>753657
Just like the rest of us.

>> No.753664

>>753637
Source?

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>>753661
>not moving into the cozy guest room upstairs
Stay pleb

>> No.753674

>How will/do re-releases, either on Virtual Console or as an HD remake affect the value of games.
99% of the time negatively

>How long will the retro boom last, assuming that it is indeed a fad.
I don't necessarily agree that we are in a "retro boom", but as long as there is demand. some rare games will always hold there value. games that had millions of copies produced will not.

>> No.753675

>>753637
odd chart. what person more than 6 describes their age as "more/less than"?

>> No.753681

>How will/do re-releases, either on Virtual Console or as an HD remake affect the value of games.
What do you mean value? If you mean money I dont fucking know, but if you mean value as a game then I think a remake has no impact on its value for those who played the original game, and it is actually an awesome thing to see. It of course fucks it in the eyes of kids playing the remake first, even tho that is completely irrelevant but could actually be said to be a good thing, to make them stay away.

>How long will the retro boom last, assuming that it is indeed a fad.
For the fad to be completely dead and with no influence in prices I'd give it 5 years at least, even tho the damage it is causing is so big that things won't just be back the way they used to.

>> No.753685

>>753626
The economy is fine, there's plenty of jobs, and there's plenty of money, at least as far as the US is concerned.

>> No.753687

>>753685
Go to bed, Barack

>> No.753697

stupid questions here, but...

1: will the super famicom controller work in a snes?
2: if so, where can I find one in good condition for cheap online?
3: if not, are there any decent USB SNES controllers you'd recommend?

>> No.753704

>>753697
1: Yes
2: eBay

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>>752621
but its a colleters item they had on antiques roadshow, anon

>> No.753823

>>753675
What, seriously? That's how a pie chart works, unless you'd rather have a hundred tiny slivers of pie to decipher.

>> No.753870

>>753823
Most English speakers would say "younger than 35" and "75 or older."

>> No.755985

>>752480

The exact reason why I have flash carts/hard drives and modded consoles, none of which cost more than 50 quid

>> No.756047

>>753657
>>753661

It's a good place to skate

>> No.756110

>>752468
You're taking it too far:
1. There were people out to just make money when you were 12
2. There are people who still make good games without money in