/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.751586]

Is the retro bubble a fad? And If so, how long do you estimate will it last? In what way are virtual console and HD remakes going to affect the market.

Also, what the fuck happened in 2010, it seems like all the games I look at on pricecharting.com spike around that time.

[Anonymous No.751594]

>What the fuck happened in 2010

people born in 1980 turned 30

[Anonymous No.751602]

We all got old and started remembering the "good old days"

[Anonymous No.751610]

I think it is a mix of "older" people like myself (I am 29) trying to relive some classic games.

Although judging by all the teenagers at my local retro store I have to say it is indeed a fad. I honestly think it will dip just a little bit once those younger folks sell off their collections once they realize they have no nostalgic connection to the games and move onto another fad.

I mean I walk into my one retro store shop and the employees are all teenagers (understandable, that is the age for those jobs) but when I see customers being 12+ years younger than myself with MLP T-shirts and T-shirts that say epic while sporting skinny jeans, I would by lying if I said there wasn't a large group going with a fad of sorts.

[Anonymous No.751609]

>HD remakes

THE BEST

Upgraded graphics, cheaper prices, improved gameplay, and ONLINE.

[Anonymous No.751647]

>>751610
>being 12+ years younger than myself with MLP T-shirts and T-shirts that say epic while sporting skinny jeans

I'm so sorry, no one should have to see that kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.751752]

>>751610
HURR HOW DARE YOU DUMB IDIOT KIDS STEAL MAH CHILDHOOD

[Anonymous No.751768]

>>751752

That's not even close to what he said

[Anonymous No.751772]

>>751610
Yes, but those kids 12+ years younger than you still have their own retro consoles. You might have grown up with an NES or SNES, but they had N64's and PS1's.
I'm 9 years younger than you and even I had an NES and a Genesis growing up. I'm not saying everyone in the hipster generation had 8-16 bit consoles, but I'm sure at least 30-40% of us did. What I'm trying to say is that those console's stayed on the market a long time. The last NES game was made in 95, and the last SNES game was made in 98. That means it could be possible that even in 2000 there were still kids exclusively playing those older systems.

And to be fair, there are a lot of awesome games from those generations, it might be that the hipsters actually enjoy playing them.

[Anonymous No.751785]

>>751772

>hipsters
>enjoying games

I... I... I don't understand. Hipsters are incapable of emotions beyond apathy and indignation. They just did a study about it.

[Anonymous No.751797]

>>751610
Pic related. This is you.

[Anonymous No.751809]

>>751772
5th gen was strictly meh-tier. What fool would be nostalgic for that?

[Anonymous No.751821]

>>751797

What that guy says is right though. I'm 24 and while I understand that some people care about gen 2 games I personally can't like them even if I tried. I imagine the same will happen to newer people. My youngest cousin is 16 years old now and his first console is the Xbox. He gets reminiscent about Halo, not Mario. He couldn't care less about 5th gen or less games.

[Anonymous No.751827]

>>751821
Atari games are objectively shit though

[Anonymous No.751824]

>>751768
yeah it was. Another morbidly obese wizard raging about kids stealing his nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.751831]

I was into retro before it was cool.

[Anonymous No.751832]

>>751821
No, actually that guy is a buttravaged boomer who's yelling at kids to get off his lawn. He makes no point other than that "I don't like X cars, so you shouldn't either."

[Anonymous No.751836]

>>751824

It's a glandular problem.

Also... that is not even close to what I said. I am not even necessarily making fun of the fad. People of differing generations will always have things that other generations find strange. To each their own.

I was simply pointing out that I do believe it is a fad.

It looks like we have a few angry teenagers up in here. Relax sonny, you can play retro games, I don't mind.

[Anonymous No.751843]

>>751832

I really think you should reread that message again, perhaps after getting a soda or something. That's not even close to what the post is saying.

[Anonymous No.751839]

>>751809
>Arrogantly pooh-poohing "popular" things and declaring them to not be good enough
>Acting elitist and snobbish

Hey guys, guess what being a "hipster" is? Hint: it's not buying a SNES game you didn't grow up with. It's this fucking shit right here.

Stop being elitist snobs for attention.

[Anonymous No.751849]

>>751586
>Is the retro bubble a fad?

It's an interesting question, and I don't really know the answer. Is it even a bubble? I think we've seen a rise in prices because:

a) The people who grew up with these games are now in their twenties and early thirties, have real jobs and disposable income, and want to buy their childhood back.
b) Although I don't point to this as heavily as others here do, it would be silly to dismiss the impact people like James Rolfe and Game Grumps have had on demand. It's not a huge impact, but it's tangible.

I like to compare the retro game collecting boom to comic book and action figure collecting. Were either of those more mature collecting spheres a "bubble"? I don't know enough about them to comment, but I would be interested to know. I see retro game prices stabling, not "popping" in the sense one would expect an economic bubble to eventually do. I don't think we'll ever see AES games and Panzer Dragoon Saga selling for $15. Maybe I'm naive, but I think that prices will stay where they are for the foreseeable future, and will even see a significant rise in the coming decades.

[Anonymous No.751871]

Ok lemme go back. 10 years ago, there was an Atari bubble but it was mostly just nostalgiafags. Then they all died or else their moms kicked them out of the basement, so since those games of course actually suck, they're now completely worthless.

Today however, you have an NES/SNES bubble which is mostly the result of hipsters born in the early 90s that could not possibly have played anything before the 5th gen, but who collect games strictly because AVGN told them to. It's not really a nostalgia thing, but a Oh hai old gaymez r so kewl thumbs up if u think COD is gay

[Anonymous No.751876]

>>751849
>The people who grew up with these games are now in their twenties and early thirties, have real jobs and disposable income, and want to buy their childhood back

>people that age having jobs
>this economy

[Anonymous No.751883]

>>751849
Action Figures and Comic Books were a huge bubble that popped hard.

[Anonymous No.751885]

>>751849

I think a bubble does exist if you look at how common games are being treated. Rare and valuable games will always be rare and valuable provided no warehouse full of copies are found. Like in your PDS example, even since it's release it was quickly a valuable, desired and rare game going for $150. It's been consistently that price until the "bubble" where now it's $250 or more. If the "bubble" is real and it does end (as they all do eventually) the price will drop but never below $150ish because of its intrinsic value. Boxed games are a different story altogether as well. I just watched a new copy of Sonic Blast for Game Gear sell for $202.50. I was willing to put in $50 for it, but somebody wanted it a lot more obviously. Sealed or complete (very good condition) games will always have some sort of value provided they aren't very common.

This is where the bubble comes in. Prices for games that are extremely common, cart only like Super Mario World sell for a lot, lot more than they used to five years ago and the prices only seem to be going up (a bit down for some games, but generally up). If that isn't the sign of a bubble then what else can be?

[Anonymous No.751887]

I think everyone who isn't me is into old games for the wrong reasons.

[Anonymous No.751905]

ITT: I am not allowed to have an original copy of King's Quest IV because the game was made before me

[Anonymous No.751906]

>>751849
>thinking you can buy your childhood back

Nope sorry, you're still a 30 yo neckbeard virgin, not an innocent carefree 6 yo

[Anonymous No.751915]

>>751905

What is with you overly offensive younger folk? I know some people flat out tell you that, but even when you simply say that people in your age group may be responsible for following a fad, you go ape shit as is if it is a personal attack on you.

Are we hitting to close to the truth or do you just want to make enough comments so we give you an exception to the rule pass?

[Anonymous No.751918]

>>751905
That was the gist of >>751797. Old loser literally telling people what they are and aren't allowed to like.

[Anonymous No.751923]

>>751915
>>751905
>KQ4
Has the retro fad extended to computer games? I thought it was only consoles.

[Anonymous No.751926]

>>751923
No. It's only consoles and specifically Nintendo ones. Sega and PS1 stuff is not selling for near the same prices.

[Anonymous No.751942]

>>751918

It doesn't even say that. Allow me to recap the post for you:

-I think the value of muscle cars will go down in 20-30 years because the cars will be 50 years old. When I was 20, there were cars that were 50 years old and nobody in my generation gave a fuck about them.
-There are exceptions to this however, high end and rare cars will continue to be valuable because they are high end and rare. Those cars were valuable when they were made and still are today.
-People are limited by money and older people who are more interested because they grew up with this stuff have less money to spend (extrapolation: poorer economy or simply being on pension)
-Younger people will not be able to be as nostalgic for these cars as people my age are because they didn't grow up with these cars. They grew up with other things and when they're older they'll be nostalgic for what they grew up with. Times are changing and people are more interested in the internet than getting a driver's license. Of course there will be exceptions and some younger people will like that stuff, they will be the minority.

Please, I beg you, show me where "an old loser tells kids what they are and aren't allowed to like". I must know.

[Anonymous No.751954]

>>751586
>Also, what the fuck happened in 2010, it seems like all the games I look at on pricecharting.com spike around that time.

http://blog.pricecharting.com/2010/06/stadium-events-mania-of-2010.html

"On February 10th, 2010 a person listed a Nintendo and five games on ebay. One of the games was a complete version of NTSC Stadium Events. The auction ended at $13,105 and was widely reported on mainstream news sites as a $13,105 Nintendo system."

This is what started the whole "hurr every old game is worth tons of money" trend. It's also responsible for a lot of people deciding to collect old vidya.

[Anonymous No.751956]

>>751876
My brother is one of those types. Nearing 30 years old now, he's been dropping cash left and right to rebuild his once-complete collection of Archie Sonic comics.

I'd say there are definitely such people out there, or at least enough to impact a smaller sector like our own game sector.

[Anonymous No.751960]

>>751942
>and nobody in my generation gave a fuck about them

Translated: I don't like cars from the 30s, thus nobody else should be allowed to like them either. In fact, Jay Leno should throw all his Model As into the Grand Canyon because he didn't grow up driving those things.

>Younger people will not be able to be as nostalgic for these cars as people my age are because they didn't grow up with these cars

Translated: Get away from my cars, punk-ass kid. Quit co-opting my childhood!

>They grew up with other things and when they're older they'll be nostalgic for what they grew up with

Translated: You're only allowed to collect the things I tell you to collect

[Anonymous No.751971]

>>751960
If by "Translated" you mean "Strawmanned", you're absolutely correct.

[Anonymous No.751972]

>>751960

Are you being satirical or am I taking crazy pills?

[Anonymous No.751982]

>>751971
>>751972
Yeah...you're another 30 yo loser who wants those damn kids to get away from your video games. I knew it.

[Anonymous No.751983]

>>751960

You're not giving the younger retro lovers a good name.

[Anonymous No.751987]

>>751797
>prewar Fords
>plummeted in value
My uncle would take issue with this statement. He wanted a 37 Ford to hot rod when he was in college in the early 80s, but couldn't afford one due to old nostalgiafags. Assumed the prices would go down after they all kicked the bucket, but 30 years later he still doesn't have one thanks to the damn rodder market.

[Anonymous No.751992]

>>751982
Actually, I use video games to lure kids into my basement.

[Anonymous No.751994]

Okokokok, butthurt oldfags. Since I, being born in 91, am apparently not allowed to collect NES games, what may I then collect, your Lordship?

[Anonymous No.752001]

>>751994

>Since I, being born in 91, am apparently not allowed to collect NES games

We don't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.751998]

>>751987
>damn rodder market
>He wanted a 37 Ford to hot rod

he's his own worst enemy i see

[Anonymous No.752003]

>>751994
Dragon dildos.

[Anonymous No.752009]

>>751994

Call of Duty DLC

[Anonymous No.752017]

>>751994
another 1991fag here.
Born a poorfag, thus all of my shit ended up being a tech generation behind.

From 2 years of age until I was about 5, it was NES and Atari 2600 all day erryday. Then, from 5-9, it was SNES. After that time period, I got an N64, and then it seems into the "modern" age.

You were born in 1991? Collect what you want. I played oldshit as a kid, and fuck any gay, boy-george ass fuck 80's kid right in the ass if he says anything to the otherwise.

[Anonymous No.752021]

>>751987
I know some things about cars. The prewar Fords and Chevys are still pretty easy to sell because rodding even though none of the people buying them today are nostalgiafags. Also the super-high end stuff like Duesenbergs because guys like Steven Spielberg buy them mostly as a piece of jewelry more than anything else.

What are worthless would be the boring stuff like 1935 Buicks because they're not rod material nor on the same level of exoticness as Duesenbergs or V16 Cadillacs.

[Anonymous No.752028]

>tfw British
I guess if I walk into a rummage sale and see a Spectrum with original Dizzy tapes, I'm going to get a dirty stare from some 30 yo neckbeard and be forced to turn and walk the other direction.

[Anonymous No.752035]

>>752021
Basically there are three eras of American cars that stand out above the rest:

1. 30s luxury makes like Duesenberg and Packard
2. Late 50s fins-and-chrome stuff
3. 60s muscle cars

The rest is worthless filler

[Anonymous No.752037]

>>752028
Nah, the retro hipsters here only care about Nintendo and Sega possibly because our culture is getting progressively more Americanised.

[Anonymous No.752038]

>All of these insecure young fellas in this thread

You just proved a point that nobody even pretend except for yourselves. Congratulations.

[Anonymous No.752042]

>All of these insecure young fellas in this thread

You just proved a point that nobody even presented except for yourselves. Congratulations.

[Anonymous No.752043]

I was born in 88 and I collected NES stuff before it was cool. Thankfully so because I'll never get a reasonably-priced MM1 cartridge now.

[Anonymous No.752047]

>>752038
>you prof me rite lol
Whatever, gramps.

[Anonymous No.752051]

>>752037

>hipstsers caring about Sega

Let's hope it never comes to this

[Anonymous No.752052]

>>752021
But I don't think even when the nostalgiafags were collecting cars in the 70s, that those Buicks were ever popular. I get the impression that it was always either Fords, Chevys, or Duesenberg/Cadillac/Packard that was hot among prewar car collectors.

[Anonymous No.752054]

>>752037
Really? I assumed over in Yurop that you'd have all kinds of hipsters walking around with Dizzy t-shirts and belt buckles shaped like a ZX Spectrum.

[Anonymous No.752059]

>>752054
Nah, nobody wants to deal with old demagnetised cassette tapes and wait 30 minutes for Football Manager to load.

[Anonymous No.752064]

>>752054
Well, we have this.

[Anonymous No.752068]

>>752052
The Fords and Chevys were popular because guys born in the 1910s-20s lost their virginity in the things. Once they died, the cars simply returned to the hot rodding circuit.

[Anonymous No.752073]

>>752059
>Football Manager
I want to play a game, not a spreadsheet

[Anonymous No.752075]

I never understood nostalgia anyway

>letting the year of your birth dictate what games you're allowed to play

[Anonymous No.752078]

>>752064

Can we at least agree that is pretty hipster to wear? I was born in 1984 and even I wouldn't wear that. I was to busy shitting my diaper and eating slop to know what the fuck happened in 1984.

[Anonymous No.752085]

>>752017
heh, boy-george

[Anonymous No.752087]

>>752068
A lot of these hot rodders are young guys. Possibly because boomers literally priced them right out of 60s cars. Thus the only option for a 30 yo dude is to acquire a 1940 Ford and hot rod it because he sure can't pay the grotesque prices they want for 67 Mustangs.

[Anonymous No.752091]

>>752054
In Germany you're way more likely than in America to encounter random neckbeards wearing Commodore logo shirts

[Anonymous No.752096]

>>752087
Yeah...that

>Barrett-Jackson auctions
>fat balding 55 yo clowns paying $40,000 for a Hemi Barracuda

It's kind of like the pigs in Animal Farm with the fat swollen around their eyes

[Anonymous No.752104]

>>752096
>It's kind of like the pigs in Animal Farm with the fat swollen around their eyes

That would describe the general image most of us have about boomers

[Anonymous No.752110]

>>752021
Of course resto 30s Fords are not as valuable as rods are

[Anonymous No.752130]

Retro gaming is hobby and that's all it will ever be. There's nothing wrong with more people getting into your hobby. The only downside I can think of is games costing a bit more due to demand but that's just the jew in me.

[Anonymous No.752143]

Jesus titty fucking christ, /vr/ is already going to shit
>board dedicated to games pre 99
>this would imply most of the board is targeted to 20+ people who were at least in middle school to experience these games
>get a bunch of insecure "born after 1995" kids showing up and wanting to be with the big boys, while constantly imploring what was so "cool" about retro games
you can't even -pretend- to be this retarded.
correct and true /vr/ citizens
>>>751594
>>751602
>>751610
>>751768
>>751821
>>751887
>>752043
>>752042

Insecure limp-wristed children trying to play it tough the man's club
>>751752
>>751797
>>751824
>>751905
>>751994
also,
>>752075
>I never understood nostalgia
>dictates what you're allowed to play
because you don't know what nostalgia means. Google it.

and yes, there is a bubble, and yes, it will pop. The retro game market is big right now for several reasons, and likewise will collapse for the same.

[Anonymous No.752153]

>>752143
Another silly man trying to tell people what they're allowed to collect

[Anonymous No.752164]

>>752153

another silly kid misinterpreting a post. Nobody cares if you collect retro games. It is when you look into insults and get all pissy when someone makes a general statement.

[Anonymous No.752165]

>>752153
Stop projecting you weak little cunt, what wasn't remotely implied. You're doing the very thing I mentioned, being a total faggot and yelling for attention.
Nobody CARES if you are 18 and younger playing retro games, stop trying to make yourself important you little insignificant shit stain.

[Anonymous No.752173]

>>752143
>this would imply most of the board is targeted to 20+ people who were at least in middle school to experience these games

And now this guy says that only people born in the 80s are allowed to post here

[Anonymous No.752181]

>>752143
if you have problems whine on /q/, not here

[Anonymous No.752178]

>>752173
>insecure little faggot
Nobody cares that you're under aged. The fact remains this board is targeted at that older demographic, and you want special institution for still living in mommy's basement and sucking your daddy's cock.

[Anonymous No.752190]

>>752178
>The fact remains this board is targeted at that older demographic
There's nowhere in the rules that says that only people born in X range of years can post here. The board is just supposed to be for discussion retro games. That's it.
>and you want special institution for still living in mommy's basement and sucking your daddy's cock
Dat projection!

[Anonymous No.752195]

>>752190
>there's nowhere in the rules
>Implying
I said it was in the rules
>Dat projection!
truth stings, don't it?

[Anonymous No.752196]

>>752143
>implying /vr/ was ever good

[Anonymous No.752204]

>>752195
>I said it was in the rules
Don't see it in here. Do you?

[Anonymous No.752215]

Autistic thread is autistic

[Anonymous No.752218]

>>752215

[Anonymous No.752236]

Make a friend of the coyote
He will always tell it like it is
Take council the bear
Back on the 'Res

When we would sail the phoenix
Feather on the sea
Thunderbird at midnight
Per chance did meet

Swallow took the sun
From that bitter ground
And now we were heavy
With the burden of a crown

We are the King of Arizona
We are the King of Arizona

Townies are a helpless people
They are busy in their troubled games
Damn their parliament of needles
They know not a lineage of names

We are the King of Arizona
We are the King of Arizona

[Anonymous No.752241]

>>751821
>expecting edgy teens to like old shit
>you

[Anonymous No.752242]

>>751586
Oh god it's been well over 15 to 20 years but I can still remember the feel of a sega genesis controller in my hand. It felt so smooth and the buttons large and very...poppy.

I remember the nintendo controller too but it hurt the fuck out of my fingers when I played for more than a few minutes so yeah.

[Anonymous No.752245]

>>751821
History will not remember Halo kindly

[Anonymous No.752250]

>>752242

[Anonymous No.752254]

I just hope it doesn't hit Genesis.

I already have my NES collection (Only like 30 or so games, they are genuinely the only NES games I will actually play/care to collect)

Working on Genesis now, which is the console I had as a kid, I actually skipped over the SNES entirely, not because I wanted to, but because my parents got the Genesis cheaper at the time of purchase.

[Anonymous No.752256]

>>752250
Let me nostalgiafag, okay?

[Anonymous No.752257]

>>752245
I agree, there's nothing nostalgic about that and hopefully when his cousin gets a bit older, he'll realize what a cancerous game that was.

[Anonymous No.752261]

>>752254
No; it seems to only be affecting Nintendo consoles

[Anonymous No.752269]

>>752143
>because you don't know what nostalgia means
I know what it means. "X thing is shitty, but because I had it as a kid, I tell myself it was actually good."

[Anonymous No.752273]

>>752269

Why are you even on /vr/?

[Anonymous No.752276]

>>752257
I was a kid during the 5th gen and I don't have any particular interest in those games. Of course there are autists who go like Hurp thumbs up if u played Perfect Dark wen u were 6 years old XD, but nuts to them.

[Anonymous No.752279]

>>752273
Sounds like you should be asking yourself that question

[Anonymous No.752284]

>>752241
I imagine the current NES hipster collectors didn't care about those games when they were 14 either

[Anonymous No.752287]

>>752279

I wasn't the one that just said the board is essentially nostalgic fags that don't even enjoy retro games, only the idea of them.

[Anonymous No.752291]

>>752273
>>752165
>>752178
>>752164
>>752143
I think all of the bitter assholes here in this thread should consider that a lot of younger people play retro games because they enjoy them, rather than because they're trying to be 'cool' or 'hipster' or fit in with a different crowd. You're making a really arrogant assumption here, and you're almost definitely wrong.

[Anonymous No.752302]

>>752291

That isn't what anyone was saying at all, not originally.

The entire flaming started due to some of the younger people here taking something from nothing.

[Anonymous No.752313]

>>752051
Sega prices are just starting to get retarded.

[Anonymous No.752320]

ITT: Projecting

[Anonymous No.752324]

I really don't mind what age people play any games. I think some of the younger people here get a bit unnecessarily offended sometimes.

I don't even mind increase in prices if they are at least sensible. The thing that drives me crazy about some retro game prices is that people want outrageous amounts for certain games just because they are popular, but not even close to rare.

At least if the prices went fully by rarity it would not be so damn bad and wouldn't bother me in the least.

tired of seeing 2000+ eBay auctions of "ultra rare LoZ gold cartridge" for outrageous prices.

[Anonymous No.752325]

>>751849

The comics bubble was only partly consumer driven. Most of it was just greedy publishers willing to exploit people with no business sense who had decided to open comic shops because they thought it would be a dream job.

I couldn't tell you about action figures except from what I see when I occasionally stroll through the toy aisles. Seems to me like McFarlane pretty much ruined them as kids' toys, because a lot of what I see is $17+ figures based on adult franchises that favor detail and poses over actually functionality. Even the dinky Star Wars and Marvel toys are still $10+ each and are thoroughly picked over, with only the shittiest of peg-warmers left.

[Anonymous No.752339]

>>752291
They won't admit that they've become this guy >>751797

[Anonymous No.752340]

I like how no one has adressed
>how long do you estimate will it last? In what way are virtual console and HD remakes going to affect the market.

do virtual console releases make games cheaper, more expensive, or does it cancel out.

[Anonymous No.752346]

[Anonymous No.752349]

I am 33 I think, I have college education and money, my first console was Atari 5200 and I learned to covet and value NES, SNES, N64 and more through earned ownership.

Nevertheless, when I see some kid on here post his most recent yard sale acquisition and ask "how'd I do?" with a pile of cartridges spread out, all I see is nothing. They're still worth a few dollars a cart to me like stores used to sell them for. I still have the ROMs. I feel nothing. People just steal the good ones anyway.

[GT3000 !Q5taavazbM No.752352]

ya'll niggas posting in a troll thread

sage

[Anonymous No.752354]

>>752349
I have heard guys that were kids in the Atari era break down and admit those games basically sucked and can't touch NES and later titles

[sage No.752360]

>>752346
1/10

[Anonymous No.752372]

>>752354
Now you just heard one say that the Flinstones dinosaur peak NES cartridge is worth the same as Atari Jungle Hunt. Deal with it.

[sage No.752378]

>>752372
*cue Squidward Tentacles voice*

Faaascinating.

[Anonymous No.752382]

>>752354
Also I would like to note that this little kid thinks he's going to break me or something. This is clearly how he will get his e-cred amongst the "real" retro gamers.

[sage No.752386]

>>752382
Who's breaking who?

Oh wait, I forgot this is a troll thread

[Anonymous No.752391]

>>752378
Can I hear a sample of that voice next to the My Little Pony merchandise that you tryhard kids love so much?

[Anonymous No.752392]

>>752382
Well now aren't we paranoid

Fucking basement-dwelling MLP fapper

[Anonymous No.752397]

>>752391
>calling other people "kids"
>being one yourself
Pick both

[Anonymous No.752406]

>>752392
Dammit why do you idiots always assume nobody in their 30s who's normal, socially adjusted, and has a job can possibly post here. How come we all have to be psychotic neckbeards who jerk it to MLP or loli pics?

[Anonymous No.752407]

>>752392
Sounds like you're upset that I don't value the things you've been spending a lot of money on. Do you feel this suggests that the bubble will burst?

[Anonymous No.752413]

>>752407
>Sounds like you're upset that I don't value the things you've been spending a lot of money on
the heck is this guy even talking about

[Anonymous No.752419]

>>752406
Come now, embrace who you are. Who _we_ are.

One of us, one of us!