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7488061 No.7488061 [Reply] [Original]

So you're telling me that I can't play 1944 on this piece of fucking shit right out of the box? That I've gotta scour the fucking Internet for the right update set because not one, not two, but THREE vital files are somehow incompatible with Multiple Asses Might Excrete? I'm not trying to play some Tiger Electronic mumbojumbo pisswank, I'm playing A GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING CAPCOM SHMUP!

Un-fucking-acceptable. Who the fuck would support this? Seriously, give me one good reason Final Burn Neo isn't better for playing arcade games. ONE. Every single game I've thrown at it - at least, y'know, the ones that actually MATTER - has worked flawlessly, and y'know what else? Better UX, better input options, and NO BULLSHIT.

>inb4 "NOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE AN EARLIER BUILD WAHHHHHHH"
How the FUCK do you screw up your dogshit emulator so bad that the dominant version people still use is from fucking 2003? Are you kidding me with this shit? I thought we were supposed to be against boomercore like Nesticle and Zsnes? Are arcadefags still stuck in the fucking stone age? Holy fucking shit, I'm never touching MAME again if this is the state of their team. Get FBNeo, suck my fucking dick, and NEVER USE MAME AGAIN.

>> No.7488069

>be me
>still using mame 0.226 with a 0.226 full rom set
works on my machine

>> No.7488070
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7488070

>complain about retroarch
>blame it on mame

>> No.7488072

>>7488070
Where in the actual fuck did your dumb nigger brain assume I was using RA? Ooga booga? Gunga bunga dinga donga? OOK OOOOOOK!!!!!

>> No.7488080

>>7488072
>mame 2003
thats retroarch get mame 229 set from pleasuredome and use latest mame and everything works fine

>> No.7488085

>>7488072
You got caught by MAME's retard filter. It's intentionally designed like that to stop people with double-digit IQs from using it. They could have kept support for old dumps, eg 1944 (oldshit v1), 1944 (oldshit v2), 1944 (current). But they decided against it, mostly because they hate fags who download individual games from coolrom.

>> No.7488095
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7488095

>> No.7488137

>>7488061
The future of arcade emulation is FPGA now.

>> No.7488156

>>7488061
They added emulationtion for the actual cps2 encryption. That's why the old sets don't work

>> No.7488347

>>7488061
>Seriously, give me one good reason Final Burn Neo isn't better for playing arcade games
Can't use artwork files. For some games, they're vital.

>> No.7488356

>>7488061
>>>I've gotta scour the fucking Internet for the right update
>google MAME [version] romset archive org
>download what I need
damn....

>> No.7488368

>>7488356

Feels like a lot of people get lazier as the tools make task easier and easier.

>> No.7488451

>>7488368
I honestly don't know why retards insist on downloading roms from SHITROMS COM and similar sites

>> No.7488489

>>7488451
>be retard who wants to play arcade games
>see shit all over the internet about having your romset version match your version of mame
>go download mame roms from romsite
>version of roms isn't even listed, but who cares, games are games right?
>download latest version of mame
>audit my roms? that's for autismos
>go to play game
>doesn't work
>WTF IS SAYS IT IS THE GAME I WANT, WHY WON'T IT WORK!?
>screech in rage until mom comes into the room and takes away laptop in punishment
>eventually get Final Burn working, spend years ranting about how MAME devs are evil people and how everyone as smart as a retard shouldn't use MAME
It's gotten to the point where I have zero desire to see MAME made any easier. Please, keep filtering the retards, they don't deserve to play.

>> No.7488503

>>7488489
Don't know why they keep acting like Final Burn is any better. It changes ROM sets to keep up with mame as well. Just at a slower rate.

>> No.7488515

>>7488503
Maybe they are one of those people that thinks MAME changes EVERY rom between sets instead of just 200-300 clones and slot machines. It can be hard to tell when dealing with people too stupid to follow directions.

>> No.7488527

>>7488451
I remember downloading "rom packs" in the early 00s. Downloading individual cartridge roms is a throwback to the 1990s when you had dial-up internet and stored your roms on 1.44mb floppies.

>> No.7488858

>>7488061
If you are going to play one game only why don't you download a portable?

>> No.7488906

God I love downloading a new PS1 romset every time Mednafen updates.

>> No.7488923
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7488923

>>7488906
its not even a big deal to update between romsets

>> No.7488971

>>7488503
The only FBA that matters is the one with GGPO netcode stapled to it.

>> No.7489018

>>7488923
Maybe he isn't aware update sets exist. And you don't need an update tool, you can do it the ghetto way and put the update set in a separate folder and add it as another rom path.
But if you don't see the need to constantly update mame, once you get about 10 updates behind it's easier to grab another full set when you want to update.
This isn't a problem for most people, but if you're a dumb zoomzoom who uses Mame in retroarch and auto-update all your cores, it can be a big problem.

>> No.7489226

>>7488061
MAMElets are easily the saddest type of idiot on /vr/, like, imagine being *that* braindead that you get filtered so hard by a task that your average teenager can figure out you end up screeching on 4chan about it for 3 paragraphs. a tragic fate indeed

>> No.7489312

>filtered by an emulator
Pathetic.

>> No.7489398

>>7488085
that kicks ass

>> No.7489631

>>7489018
I noticed retroarch has a core lock option that prevents cores from being auto updated. It says specifically that it's for arcade cores that change sets often.

>> No.7489636

>>7488061 If you don´t know how to use crlmamepro your fucked.
>>7488923 Luckly you have pleasuredome, if not your fucked twice.

>> No.7489647

>>7488489
>system was made badly
>I like how stupid it is
>I feel so exclusive playing old games like a nonce
trolls are miserable people

>> No.7489650

>>7489647
Arcade games are a bit more complex than your average console ROM. sorry if that's too hard for you to understand

>> No.7489663

>>7489650
never said. now you look like a stupid idiot kek.

>> No.7489665

Yeah, MAME is fun but I'm not putting that much work into playing old video gamea.

>> No.7489670

>>7489665
>I'm too stupid to match two numbers together
Nice job.

>> No.7489692 [DELETED] 

>>7489665
You're right man. Got totally filtered by an emulator. Guess I can't play all those yummy exclusives you trannies overhype so much.

>> No.7489701

>>7489670
You're right man. Got totally filtered by an emulator. Guess I can't play all those yummy exclusives you trannies overhype so much

How does it feel to be so niche? Is it the nerd equivalent to listening to bands no one's ever heard of? You're so fucking cool.

>> No.7489708

>>7489665
>>7488061
>>7489701
You can download the non-merged roms if you want individual games and not the whole set anon. You don’t have to do it like OP is saying. Non-merged contains everything needed to play that game in the zip file. The downside is that it takes up substantially more space because many files are duplicated between otherwise unrelated games. It saves a lot of space

>> No.7489747

>>7488489
Ironically the people who get filtered by mame tend to praise retroarch

>> No.7489759

>>7488061
>Multiple Asses Might Excrete
hearty kek
don't care about whatever issues you're having

>> No.7489806

>>7489708
That's not the problem OP is having.

>> No.7489818

>>7488061
Ok you whiny faggot. You don’t like [thing]. Point made. Did you get street fighter EX working on anything? I can’t for love nor money. Star Wars Arcade in English would be nice too. Admiral Ackbar yelling at me in Japanese, while fun, is stressful

>> No.7489824

>>7488080
You seem less of a spastic than OP can you check your set for >>7489818
and get back to me if they work for you?

>> No.7489826

>>7489818
You need merged sets or the PSX bios files seperate

>> No.7489831

>>7488489
thank you

>> No.7489836

>>7488085
>>7489398
ROMsets are full of cancer and shit games. i don't want trashy tiger electros LCD games just because some retarded furry on twitter wanted the.

>> No.7489841

>>7488137
You mean the future of meme faggotry.

>> No.7489846

>>7489650
>>7489663
>>7489226
OP aren't the people who should be called "MAMElets" since they're not autist warshipping bad devs, who think backwards compatibility is a meme.

>> No.7489849

>>7488061
Use the set for your version and either don't budge ever, or extract update packs and point MAME to those files too, as MAME can load from multiple directories. Arcade64 has a pretty good UI.

Oh, and quit fucking crying. Enjoy losing tons of classic games if you exclusively use FB.
>muh those don't matter
Brainlet cope. MAME ain't even that hard.

>> No.7489851

>>7489826
I’ve got the 2003plus merged set and 2010 and neither version of EX works and Star Wars Arcade is in nip

>> No.7489859

>>7489818
Works on my machine. How is this hard or arcane information? Get a merged set for your version from archive.org. I shouldn't even have to say this.

>> No.7489860

>>7489846
Yeah, backwards compatibility with old sets with bad/missing data. Are you fucking retarded?

>> No.7489864

>>7489851
The PSX games simply don't work in 2003 plus. Even if you have the ROMs.

>> No.7489873

>>7489859
Why not read the post again and try a less retarded answer? I have a merged set and it doesn’t work. I’m not saying the set is right I’m just cross checking with anons who HAVE got working roms to verify and tell me which set. For all I know EX games don’t work on any and the English SWA may not be dumped. I can’t find them so I’m trying here. So, no, you shouldn’t have to have to say stupid fucking responses to posts you didn’t read properly but you did anyway.

>>7489864
Now we’re getting somewhere. Can you clarify that a bit more, please?

>> No.7489874

>>7489708
Wow didn't expect that response. I love you anon, thank you.

>> No.7489883

>>7489873
Use this version. MAME 2003 Plus is a hackjob and MAME in Retroarch is garbage anyway. https://arcade.mameworld.info/

>> No.7489884

>>7489873
No. My answer was satisfactory, you dope. That's all I did, and it works on my fucking machine using .228. Get set, get matching version, play game. Somewhere along the line you fucked up, as your mom did during pregnancy or raising you.

>> No.7489892

>>7489884
(You)

>>7489883
Well done for not being a useless cunt and actually helping. I’ll check it out, cheers

>> No.7489897

>>7489873
>I might be doing it wrong, and I can't tell you for sure because I'm a fucking window licker, but YOU'RE the retard.
You're being a fucking moron, AND a jerk, but I'm feeling generous: try archive.org, get the latest merged set they have, get a matching Arcade64 version. Point it to the ROMs.

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7489903

Noooooo you are not supposed to be playing on MAME its for preservation only!

>> No.7489904

>>7489892
You're a fucking retard for needing this much help with this. I was getting MAME to work when I was in middle school in the 90s. So yayyyy way to get spoonfed. I can't imagine how hard life is for you in general.

>> No.7489907

>>7489897
You’re not being generous you’re being captain fucking obvious. All I’m asking for is someone to verify their copy of EX works and to give me the version, and if their copy of SWA is in English and give me the version. “Try archive.org” isn’t fucking helpful when the 4 I’ve got haven’t worked. I freely admit I’m doing something wrong or I’m getting unlucky because 99% of the Roms I’ve tried have been fine except these two.

If you two mongloids are so confident then megaupload the Roms you have and post them with the version and I can try them.

>> No.7489913

>>7489904
>I can’t stand being talked about instead of to so I better keep replying

>> No.7489916

>>7489907
AND YET, if you do that, it will work, or pull an individual from that set and use a matching version, it will work. Fuck you. You are the fucking worst and I want to physically fight you. Even if you're a giant retard with tard strength your IQ is so low I probably have a shot.

All these long screeds and you ADMIT you're doing it wrong.

>> No.7489919

>>7489913
I'd rather yell at you than work.

>> No.7489924

>>7488503
Final Burn Neo keeps even the bad dumps in its database, and will play those.

It will usually let you know what version of a game you have after it scans a directory and lists it.

Decently useful.

>> No.7489927

>>7489916
I don’t know what you’re struggling with here but I’ll try one last time: out of the 4 merged sets I have 99% of the games I want to play work. The two I’ve mentioned are the only two I want to play but can’t for whatever reason, be it my fault, or the sets. If you, assuming you’re the first dozy cunt claim that .228 has SF2 EX working fine and Star Wars Arcade in English then, great, awesome, thank you.

I repeat: 99% of the games in the sets I have work. I’m trying to skip over the whole rom checking business for the sake of two games because I’m lazy and I don’t think they’re worth the trouble when one is on consoles and the other was on 32x.

>> No.7489931

>>7489927
You're the one struggling. Hiding this thread good luck man jfc. You win.

>> No.7489934

>>7489919
Fair enough, chief. Can’t fault you there - whatever keeps you sane. I’m on lunch anyway so why the fuck not.

The more I embark on this pointless quest the more fond I am of Admiral Ackbar yelling at me in Nipponese.

>> No.7489939

>>7489931
Cheers, Thanks for coming...?

>> No.7489946

>>7489924
I have final burn Neo and those aren't in the data file.

>> No.7489951

>>7489927
> You're not spoonfeeding me hard enough, spoonfeed me harder!
lol. This is why nobody wants to help retarded anons.

>> No.7489953

What's wrong with just using FBA? it work great for me

>> No.7489979

>>7489701
LOOOOOL wow, now this... this is gay. I don't know if there's a post you could have made to more clearly communicate the fact that tears are welling in your eyes and your mom is pissed at you because you punched a hole in the drywall after getting filtered by an emulator. and now your only solace is calling anyone with 2 brain cells and instruction following skills, hipster trannies. amazing

>> No.7490121

>>7489824
yes they both run in mame 229

>> No.7490140

I'm >>7489953

can anyone tell me what I'm missing out by not using mame?

>> No.7490156

>>7489846
Why would you want "backwards compatibility" with broken ROMs?

>> No.7490161

Normally I want to help people but seeing how belligerent OP is being makes me not care.

You'll catch more people with honey than vinegar, hon.

>> No.7490172

>>7490140
MAME supports way more games, has more features, and it's more accurate. Plus almost all of FBA code is taken from MAME.

But if you just want to casually play popular arcade games there is nothing wrong with using FBA.

>> No.7490182

>>7490172
So if I ever feel like a game I'm playing isn't working, I can just go with MAME then?
Ty this helped me figuring it out a bit more

If I wanted a version of MAME that was working fine with shmups but also allowed me to use save states (to train) overclocking (to remove slowdown in metal slug 2 for example) etc, what version should I go with?

>> No.7490207

>>7489650
I really just don't get why there is no "compatibility mode" in mame. Is there an actual reason? This sounds like it would be easy to implement.

>> No.7490216

>>7490207
It would actually be a complete pain in the ass because the old dumps have issues like bad dumps and missing files.

>> No.7490294

>>7490216
Do those issues make it hard to implement? I'm not talking about fixing bad dumps and missing files but just essentially running current mame in (for example) 0.206 mode.

>> No.7490296

>>7489636
>crlmamepro is the only rom audit program
No. Plus it has a shit GUI and is clunky to work with. Try using RomCenter, it has a better GUI and is far more intuitive to work with.

>>7489951
>>7489979
>>7490161
And that's why I said I hope MAME doesn't get any easier. Right now it's at the point where it filters the people who are too dumb to look up a tutorial or follow instructions. Which is exactly the level of stupid where it's not worth trying to help people.

>> No.7490316

>>7490294
If you really wanted to do that why not just use the old version

>> No.7490323

>>7490294
You are acting like every program has every old line of deleted code still hidden inside somewhere, just waiting to be uncommented and used. On top of that, MAME has been modernized more than once. They just recently converted most of the codebase over to C++17 IIRC, and removed pretty much all the old macros. Modern MAME doesn't even run the same under the hood anymore. You wouldn't just have to merge in the old codebase, you would have to recreate the entire framework.

It's a shitton of work just because some lazy retards don't want to update their roms. Hence why they don't do it, and no one else has bothered to fork MAME and try it.

>> No.7490327

>>7490294
Why would they make a giant spaghetti code mess out of their emulator just to appease a few autists who are too lazy to update their ROM sets?

>> No.7490343

>>7490323
Yeah I guess that kinda makes sense. I don't know if it's the 0.* version numbering but I just kinda assumed that it has stayed more or less the same under the hood.

>> No.7490349

>>7488061
Spoiled douchebag.

>> No.7490965

My favorite part is anyone saying "its not worth all the work needed just to play games in mame". As if it's ever actually been "work" or taken longer than like 10 minutes to get set up and playing stuff. Retroarch makes it easier than it was before in some ways but mameui too has always been there to show you in an easy to understand way the parent/clone rom heirarchies, etc. If you download a 60gb full romset to play like 3 games because you think that's actually necessary then.. idk, time to git gud

>> No.7490986

>>7489836
Find the romset somewhere like archive.org where you can download individual files out of it.
Most of us don't live in shitholes with satellite internet and are able to afford hard drives, and it's more convenient to download a 68GB romset than waste our time picking through files and looking up parent rom dependencies.

>> No.7491042
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7491042

>>7489665
Tired boomer or lazy zoomer? Either way, arcade 1up cabinets are for you.
Boomers who can't figure out mame should be ashamed because it's been around for 2 decades. So you had no interest in playing every arcade game for free, or you couldn't learn to use this program after 20 fucking years.

>> No.7491090

>>7488061
mames not for playing games

>> No.7491168

>>7490294
>Do those issues make it hard to implement?
Yes. One of the things that has been fixed a lot in the last 5 years or so is the dumping of protected MCU data. A lot of old games used clever protection that has never been broken to stop people bootlegging them. They did this by locking important parts of the game logic behind security on chips that were only finally dumped out recently due to people decapping them - pouring acid on the top and literally reading the contents of the chip with an electron microscope. How these games worked before is they made up how that part of the game worked. That may have been pretty close, or very wrong. Some famous games had big chunks of the game missing until the last 5 years when the real data was finally dumped.
To support shitty old dumps with that data missing you need fake code that pretends to do what the game did. Often that fake code was refied - how do you "backwards compatibility" that garbage? It was all wrong to begin with. If you keep supporting it you now have to prop up literal garbage wrong code forever as well as support the rest of your emulator that is right.
Anyone who talks about "backwards compatibility" in terms of arcade ROMS is a complete fucking retard who should be mercilesslly mocked.

>> No.7491374

>>7489701
>Guess I can't play all those yummy exclusives you trannies overhype so much
Or:
>I'm lazy and stupid, so you're a tranny
I wish I could legally kill people like you on sight.

>> No.7491602

>>7490986
it's honestly really simple to determine parent vs clone roms for the most part, esp on a site like archive, just by looking at file name and size. The issue is that MAMElets lack any critical thinking ability. They'll download something like idk, 3rd strike, or some other game with multiple versions, they'll get a variant, not clue in to the fact that it's a 1MB zip etc, it won't run, and at no point will the lightbulb ever come on like "Hey, that's weird, 3rd strike is only 1MB?"

i'm convinced that 90% of people's brick walls with MAME come from not realizing they need a bios rom for certain platforms and not understanding the parent/clone thing. the actual romsets for games not in a state of rapidly changing development don't change between versions the vast majority of the time.

>> No.7491660

>>7491168
I mean your intentions are good and you laid out some real facts there but at the end of the day, people are more interested in screeching and calling the developers of this (free, doesn't cost money) program autistic trannies.

there's a real willful ignorance for some people around the nature of arcade hardware/emulation and why it's not comparable to a console. But, if you did want to compare arcade emulation and console emulation, it's actually way more impressive. Consider how many more easily accessible units there are of any major home console there are in the wild for people to analyze. How many more people actually developed games for those platforms and have insight into how they work. How much simpler it is to rip a disc or dump a snes/genesis/etc cart than it is to get the data from rare, not always well documented, fragile PCB's with way more chips on average. How much bigger the task is with dozens of unique hardware configurations to figure out and byzantine "fuck you" level security to decipher. And then rolling all these drivers into one handy program. The only 5th gen+ system that's emulated at a really high quality level is the playstation, some might say gc/wii and dreamcast too. N64, saturn, ps2, xbox, all of them have their issues, and yet because it's easier to just download any old iso and pop it into the program, those emulators don't get nearly the same flack from these ingrates as mame does. it's crazy man

>> No.7491676

>>7488080
>get mame 229 set from pleasuredome
Oh yeah, download a full set including random useless casino games just for the privilege of using the 4MB rom you actually want to use.

>>7488070
RetroArch provides the solution to this problem: bypasses the arbitrary whitelist and warning screens full of LIES about the compatibility state, and loads the roms directly with the proper setting.

MAMEdev wants RetroArch to stop being more popular than MAME, and wants them to implement the same flaws as the original, then everytime they do he (she? tranny ofc) says it's not enough and wants more.

We're long past the point where MAMEdev can pretend he doesn't know that shit filter is the reason why
1- original mame is unpopular
2- users of original mame don't update and don't "preserve" the better newly discovered good dumps as a result (old MAME versions would reject them)
3- those features actually punish users

>>7488085
More hardware power, storage and bandwidth requirements than stuff like Red Dead Redemption 2, and romsets full of useless casino roms and porn of dubious legality... for a 4MB rom.

Then it turns out support for "coolrom" dumps is there all along and needs to be bypassed.
Committing piracy from "coolrom" in scare quotes for a single game is obviously safer than hundreds of gigabytes to be updated EVERY SINGLE VERSION (at the risk of random games in the list getting broken)
Then it starts to make sense when you know MAMEdev and co. sell the older lightweight implementation to publishers who want to do commercial releases.

Yeah. "High" IQ as in "high on your own toxic fart fumes"?

>> No.7491707

>>7491676
you can download single games of the non merged set and they will work its still a lot of shit to go through and select though and you can turn off the warning screens of imperfect emulation

>> No.7491754

>>7491676
>Oh yeah, download a full set including random useless casino games just for the privilege of using the 4MB rom you actually want to use.
or stop being a retard and just download the things you want from a non merged romset
>retroarch bypasses the arbitrary whitelist and warning screens full of LIES about the compatibility state, and loads the roms directly with the proper setting
it literally works in the exact same way except its an older version
>MAMEdev wants RetroArch to stop being more popular than MAME, and wants them to implement the same flaws as the original
same as above, also take your meds
>romsets full of useless casino roms and porn of >>>dubious legality
>>>>Committing piracy from "coolrom" in scare quotes for a single game is obviously safer than hundreds of gigabytes to be updated EVERY SINGLE VERSION
lol

>> No.7491770

>>7491676
lol so funny man like, who are these users that it's actually relevant to update every time, download a full set, update that every time..

for example, I usually have a handful of neogeo, cps, shmup titles in my mame folder. any recent mame is going to have basically full emulation of these, there's not much happening on a version to version basis these days when it comes to romsets or the drivers. or in cases where there's still big room for improvement, like CV1000 for example, it's not like every new version has had big progress or development on the CV1000 driver (I wish!)

so therefore, if there's nothing to be gained for the games I'm playing by updating, no UX feature I really wanted or etc, why would I update my mame version? If there was a change in driver development that I became aware of, it's safe to say it would probably also be obvious if a different romset was part of that equation.

if you updated your mame version and something stopped working from one version to the next, you'd already automatically know it must be that exact version you need a new rom for and you could just grab the single .zip from a set.

there's no logic to the claim that you need to update mame all the time, you need a full set to make things practical etc, and there's no truth behind the idea that the whole set changes every time.

>> No.7491796

stop worrying and learn to love the MAME

https://archive.org/download/MAME_0.228_ROMs_merged/MAME_0.228_ROMs_merged.zip

https://bda.retroroms.info:82/downloads/mame/mame-0229/
The no clobber option will pickup where you left off if there are more than 100 ROMs in directory
wget -r -np -nd -nc -l 1 -A zip -t 1 --http-user=thatsyou --ask-password --accept-regex "^.+\.zip$"

https://mamedev.emulab.it/clrmamepro/#downloads

https://github.com/mamedev/mame/releases/download/mame0229/mame0229b_64bit.exe
Use the executable not a dat file

The program gets updated every month on the last Wednesday.
https://bda.retroroms.info:82/downloads/mame/update/
Yes there is already updates for 0.230

>> No.7491847
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>>7491602
>"Required files are missing, the machine cannot be run"? What the fuck does that mean??!

>> No.7491869

>>7491676
>at the risk of random games in the list getting broken
If you're paranoid about this you need to do put update sets in separate folders. Add them as an extra rom path. Guaranteed to never break a rom because you can fall back to an older version.

>> No.7491872
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7491872

something got redumped in December bros

>> No.7492580

>>7491872
Slightly more complicated than that. It's an EU release that got dumped and was made into the new parent for that set. The previous NA release that was the parent has been demoted to clone, and is now 1944u.zip.

>> No.7492635

lol I emulate Gauntlet Dark Legacy with no issues, you're just retarded.

>> No.7493387

>>7491676
>RetroArch provides the solution to this problem: bypasses the arbitrary whitelist and warning screens full of LIES about the compatibility state, and loads the roms directly with the proper setting.
It not only does not do this, it suppresses the screen telling people THIS GAME DOES NOT WORK for games that err.. don't work so people don't understand what to expect, and doesn't tell you what files are missing if you are trying to load a romset with missing files. This is literally reason number 1 why MAME in retroarch is awful.
The rest of your post is just incoherent ESL nonsense and just as wrong.

>> No.7493412

There is no denying that the MAME core in RA is absolute ass. Anyone with a brain who also uses it at least occasionally can see this.

>> No.7493437

Imagine failing at an emulator that's been around for two fucking decades. lmao

>> No.7493450

>>7493437
Imagine having such a small ego that you try to feel superior to others through your ability to use an emulator. That is beyond pathetic. And MAME does have a learning curve for sure. It is not nearly as easy to use as home console emulators. I'm certain most of you struggled with some aspect of it when you first started out. Sure the necessary info to resolve any issue you might have is out there but that has never stopped Anons from asking to be spoon fed now has it?

>> No.7493464

>>7493450
Spoiler alert chucklefuck: every arcade emulator does the same thing because arcade ROMs are complicated and often obscured, protected and encrypted.

>> No.7493516

>>7488061
tard rage will always be funny.
Here's your (You).
Now kys.

>> No.7494110

>>7493450
>And MAME does have a learning curve for sure.
I had to deal with missing files issues before I figured out that mame versions are tied to a specific rom set. I learned how update sets work by overwriting files and breaking all my capcom games because mame started emulating the encryption. I was able to solve it in a few minutes by googling the problem instead of waiting for responses on a message board, or crying about how a crappier emulator is better because the interface is more retard-proof.

>> No.7494234

>>7494110
And? Do you want a purple heart for that or something? Why did you even reply to my post? Do you even have a point at all? What you just described is a learning experience. So you didn't have to ask for help. Good job! Others do. I fail to see the problem... It's always been and will always be like this. How do so many of you talk down to noobs, saying stuff like "Hurr, you're failing at setting up a +20 year old emulator." and then come off as proud of yourselves for being capable of doing exactly that? Doesn't that seem a little paradox to you? It's a trivial task according to your own words. See I wrote that short guide up there >>7488095 and never in my life would it cross my mind to throw my weight around because it - because, and I'll say it again, that is pathetic behavior.

>> No.7494523

>>7494234
Nobody is proud of themselves for being able to work an emulator. We're making fun of retards who upon having difficulties think the best course of action is:
>looks like I'm not playing games today
>i'll make a post on a slow moving image board and wait for somebody to help me

>> No.7494530

MAME is retarded

>> No.7496481

>>7488085
>mostly because they hate fags
Trannys... who hate fags. What?

>> No.7496494
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7496494

How to play arcade games without the bullshit: PS2 compilations. And it makes the MAME fags seeth.

>> No.7496532

>>7488085
>>7489670
>>7489904
Imagine thinking that spending 10 minutes to get an emulator working makes you a gaming genius, and anyone with enough self respect to not use shitty software is only doing so because they're dumb.
Are you autismos also using Lynx on an Linux server distro to feel superior while you shitpost?

>> No.7496752

>>7496494
that's honestly just so gay man, it's depressing you think that anyone is "seething and coping" because they use mame like a normal person instead of shitty ps2 ports

>> No.7497095

>>7496752
>mame
>normal person

>> No.7497238

>>7488061
Goddamn retroarch to hell for creating people like OP.

>> No.7497264

>>7496532
Nobody thinks getting mame up and running makes you a genius. It just makes you not a retard. Which you are.

>> No.7498081

>>7496532
>using a lower quality emulator because you're frustrated with the user interface
Since you spend 99.9% of your time in an emulator playing a video game and not touching the UI at all, I'd say you are pretty dumb.

>> No.7498105

>>7490121
Can you mega upload your Roms of each? Would appreciate it

>> No.7498107

>>7496494
As a full set chad, I literally have all these isos and a real PS2 to play them on. I don't because they're old emulators that will never be updated and I can't use my arcade stick on the PS2.

>> No.7498390

>>7498107
>that will never be updated
Isn't that the solution with all these mame fags though? "Just use the 2003 version, bro."
At least with PS2 you don't have to remap the controls every time, or look for specific versions of fullsets, or deal with a bunch of retard filenames that break if you renane them to something reasonable.

>> No.7498393

>>7497264
Are you always this predictable?

>> No.7498402

>>7498390
>"Just use the 2003 version, bro."
mamefags dont say this its retroarchfags

>> No.7498430

>>7498390
Mame 2003 plus is crap. You are forced to use retroshart and it's bad enough.

>> No.7498446

>>7498390
>"Just use the 2003 version, bro."
I think that's kind of a fuckoff answer people give to retards who are running mame on a complete toaster and are using 20 year old dumps they got from coolrom.

>> No.7500067

>>7491602
>it's honestly really simple to determine parent vs clone roms for the most part, esp on a site like archive, just by looking at file name and size.
archive's sets are merged anyway, so you don't even have to deal with that, the .zip will contain the parent AND all of the child ROM files

>>7490182
in general, you want the latest release of MAME, unless you have a toaster
MAME supports overclocking with the -cheats commandline option, dunno if you can toggle it from the GUI or not. It'll be under slider controls once in game. Also, the game may or may not crash when running at a different clockspeed, which is why the option is hidden.
Also, someone released a ROM fix for Metal Slug 2. MAME might complain since the checksum for the ROM will be wrong, I haven't tried it.
Savestates work for a lot of games, although there are a handful that don't have them implemented.