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Concentration has been bugged for 20 years edition

Useful information: https://pastebin.com/7EaAeCeW

Previous Horadric Cube: >>7454161

>> No.7482481

>>7482438
>shock/freeze merc
Do you mean the ones from act 3? No they're probably the most worthless in the entire game, the lightning one doubly so. The freeze merc is sometimes usable against regular trash enemies but is going to be absolutely worthless vs bosses.

I'd stick with defiance. Not only is the aura useful to you, but they're much better tanks as well.

>> No.7482498

I forgot how much I hated Kurast and it's ultra wide map jesus fuck

>> No.7482504

is there a cap for IAS?

>> No.7482510

>>7482504
>cap
No, but there are breakpoints. Around which extra IAS will be useless and not having enough will hinder you.

Use one of the many online calculators to work it out.

https://d2.lc/IAS/

>> No.7482526
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7482526

>>7482462
my WW barb has 12k AR and the character sheet still shows 90% chance to hit

>> No.7482530

>>7482526
Level up more.

>> No.7482536

>>7482438
I would go for a might merc because he is a good physical damage source.

>> No.7482539

>>7482536
He's obviously still in normal based of what he asked, anon.

>> No.7482550
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7482550

>searching for something to watch
>open diablo 2 video
>see PD2 or PoD
>instantly close tab

>> No.7482598

>>7482539
>frost shock
I though he meant Holy Freeze merc there.

>> No.7482672

>>7482598
So did I, but I had 10 mins to think about his post and poor grammar in between threads, lol.

>> No.7482830

>>7481812
Blessed Aim is pretty useless since it doesn't stack with the Amazons own AR% skill due to a bug, and Defiance requires better gear than you probably have.
I'd say a Prayer merc with an Insight is your best bet.

>> No.7482835

If I am using plugy do I need to re-enter players 8 every time I re-enter the game? It shows players 8 after loading, without entering the command, on top left but I don\t know if that's legit.

>> No.7482845

>>7482835
surely you should be able to tell with monster HP, no?

>> No.7482850

>>7482845
Maybe he's playing a hammerdin.

>> No.7482856

>>7482835
works for me

>> No.7482884

>>7482845
i 1 hit some monsters tho. but andy hurts so i guess it works.
>>7482856
as in, you don't re-enter the command?

>> No.7482887

>>7482884
>as in, you don't re-enter the command?
Yes. Works with exiting to the menu and opening the character again, as well as actually quitting the whole game and opening again.

>> No.7482893

>>7482835
Could have just made a new character and walked out of town, punched a zombie and looked at the damage done, then repeat for P8. Probably faster than waiting for a reply here.

>> No.7482967

Guys I have to confess something. When I was wee lad playing on Bnet, I joined a cow server. We were getting the components together so someone could open the portal (we were just putting the stuff on the ground). No one had Wirt's Leg, so someone went all the way to Tristram to get one. Once he got back, he dropped it near the Tome of Town Portal. Shortly after, I picked up the Tome and Wirt's Leg and immediately disconnected because I thought it would be funny. To this day (literally over a decade and a half later) I still think it's kind of funny I ruined (or at least hampered) someone's cow server.

>> No.7482971

do i put infinity on might aura merc or reaper's toll on blessed aim merc? infinity is always on unlike reaper's toll but it doesn't help my survivability like decrepify does

>> No.7482975

>>7482967
kek. What a mild inconvenience you were.

>>7482971
I always preferred reapers toll, especially against Baal. What build are you using though?

>> No.7482978

>>7482975
ww barb

>> No.7482982

>>7482978
Reapers toll for sure, unless you're REALLY having accuracy issues.

>> No.7482987

>>7482481
No I mean act2.
Nightmare act2 mercs have different auras from normal/hell. So was wondering what's better defiance armor or shock freeze slow

>> No.7482989
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7482989

>just spent 10 minutes looking for the waypoint in the Tamoe Highland

>> No.7482991

>>7482987
What kind of act 2 merc has shock?

>> No.7482994

>>7482987
Freeze merc is fantastic. Use that.

>> No.7483006

>>7482672
>>7482539
You're not very smart, are you?
>>7482994
Will do thanks.

>> No.7483010

>>7483006
I still don't know what you mean by a shock mercenary.

>> No.7483013

>spent 30 minutes trying to get the game to crash with an act 2 Delirium merc
>hasn't happened yet
How the hell do you trigger this crash? I can't fix something if I can't even figure out what causes it. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with Jab, the hireling can Jab just fine while transformed, even when transformed mid-Jab.

>> No.7483018

>>7483010
I misremembered the aura name obviously. It's Holy Freeze not Frost Shock.

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7483020

>>7483018
>>7483006
>>7482987
Christ almighty.

>> No.7483027

>>7483013
Pretty sure it has to be quite specific in the timing. Been a couple years since I last saw it.

Why not mod the % to 100 for testing?

>> No.7483035

>>7483013
Are you on 1.14+ ?

>> No.7483043

>>7483027
I already did that, it doesn't crash.

>>7483035
No, but it shouldn't make a difference. This bug has supposedly been around since Delirium existed.

>> No.7483046

>>7483043
https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/delirium-crash-to-desktop.304307/

>> No.7483087

>>7483046
>"delirium bug"
>it's actually the D3D bug which can be fixed by not using that buggy garbage
Thanks bro, that explains it.

>> No.7483098

>>7483087
No worries. Was just playing with the helm myself set to 100% and yeah, works on my machine.

>> No.7483123

>>7483087
>>7483013
So why are you trying to fix this bug? Really like the helm or something?

>> No.7483128

>>7483006
Do yourself a favor and get a might merc. You will thank me later when you are at level 80+ and don't need the slow at all but could use some additional physical punch.

>> No.7483179
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7483179

>>7483123
I'm working on a bug-fixed/accurately described version of Diablo 2, so I want to find and fix as many bugs as possible. It's mostly just correcting lying descriptions (like how Feral Rage/Maul misinterpreting how much leech/stun they give, or Raise Skeleton saying it has way less life than it actually does, or Fire Golem saying it does way more damage than it actually does), but there are some actual bug fixes in it too.

>> No.7483191

>>7483179
That's really cool. Do you plan on releasing it or is it a personal thing? I'd love to have a look once you're done.

>> No.7483225
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7483225

>>7483087
>>7483043
>>7483013
>2 remastered devs asking for help here to fix the game

>> No.7483240
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7483240

>>7483191
>https://mega.nz/file/ZTh2wDga#w-vQt2xMYzp-rySWFVt3DtmM-NiunzY7p-uEJFLeXQM
It's already released.

>>7483225
That would be nice, but the D2R devs don't care about bugs. There's a really obvious bug on display multiple times in their trailer. It's going to be just as broken as it ever was, which sucks since it means the "next hit always misses" bug will never ever be fixed.

>> No.7483249

reminder to download openal dlls and take advantage of diablo 2's 3d and environmental sounds

>> No.7483287

>>7483240
Very impressive anon! I appreciate the effort you've put into it.

>> No.7483336

>>7483128
Doing hardcore run, kinda feel like I want to be as survivable as possible.

>> No.7483337
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7483337

>>7482550
Greetings. Would you like to join me in playing Diablo II LOD 1.13d via private network using Windows 98 machines coupled with Voodoo 5500's? You seem like the type that could appreciate such things. Or perhaps you'd prefer vanilla Diablo I or vanilla Diablo II at 640x480? There are many flavors of classic Diablo, each with their own merits.

>> No.7483347

>>7482887
Ok Thanks.
>>7482893
Yeah I thought of that, thansk.

>> No.7483351

>>7483179
damn that sorc looks hot, what shader?

>> No.7483379

>>7483351
I don't know that I would call her "hot," but she's definitely electrifying.

>> No.7483381
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7483381

>>7483337
Why yes, that does sound like quite the enjoyable experience. However I must insist we play on CRT monitors with functional degaussing buttons.

...and yes 640x480, as God intended.

>> No.7483390

>>7483379
not cool?

>> No.7483408

>>7483381
Criminally based, but what does
>degaussing buttons
mean?
t. linear algebra noob

>> No.7483443
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7483443

>>7483408
Old CRT monitors used to build up a magnetic charge that would distort the path of electrons, giving you a fuzzy or warped image and colours after a long period of time.

They would come with a button that would trigger a rapid firing of the magnetic mechanism and essentially reset the screen. Eventually they did this automatically on boot or after a set period of time. It made an awesome 'thunk' and humming sound when you did it.

You could do this yourself with a magnet in front of the screen, or fuck the screen up with one, then needing a degauss. Moving the screen around while on could cause the effect, too.

>> No.7483494

>>7483443
I've yet to see a modern monitor display proper black colors better than a good crt.

>> No.7483531
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7483531

The demaster would have actually looked good if they had used prerendered 2d sprite based backgrounds like Pillars of Eternity and Diablo 2 (and preferably for everything like D2). I want to cockslap any retard who gives blizzard money for creating this low effort bait. You're pure cancer.

>> No.7483560

>>7483531
Is that you again, schizo anon? Still crying about autogold pickup?

>> No.7483562

>>7483240
Can I use this for 1.14d?

>> No.7483570

>>7483560
how much does blizz pay you to hang out here at all times? i certainly hope you don't do it for free.

>> No.7483574

>>7483570
Take your meds anon.

>> No.7483587

>>7483531
That would have required considerable effort as D2 uses a tile system and for its time had an insane amount of sprite variations for armor. Easier to just make ugly 3D.

>> No.7483596

So what QoL have been announced aside from auto pick up gold? Anything you are expecting?
Personally I expect numbers like magic find be visible and better pathing for both hero and merc.

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7483609

>>7483560
>>7483574
Get some help.

>> No.7483632
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7483632

>>7483574
you must have immeasurably shit taste if you think 3d diablo looks good.

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7483638

>>7483632

>> No.7483758

Of they're not going to let us use our bots they should at least allow you to buy loot boxes with exp and a set number of high tier treasures.

I sent that as a tip. $5 for a crack at high level runs or a shako seems pretty good. The modern player does not have time to deal with low odds.

>> No.7483763
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7483763

Damn holy shock is powerful. Not waiting for immunities though.

>> No.7483765

>>7483758
They should also include some bonus Diablo III maps and items.

>> No.7483776

>>7483765
Ubers will probably get that treatment. Uber Andariel will be Lilith

>> No.7483780

>>7483758
>advocating for micro-transactions unironically.
Corpse Explosion yourself.

>> No.7483821

>>7483758
Why are Zoomers so degenerate? If you really want items that bad play single player, run a bot for Pindle, and check in on it twice a day.

>> No.7483830

>>7483821
>botting Pindle for good items
You'll never make it big time like that, kiddo. Do some time traveling and farm some double-ethed superiors, damage charms, 6-affix jewels and merged uniques.

>> No.7483832

>>7483758
>modern player
This is a 20 years old game.

>> No.7483929

>>7483443
Neat anon! I naively assumed it had something to do with gaussian reduction

>> No.7484096
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7484096

>85% lightning resist
>no uniques that increase max light res

>> No.7484124

>>7484096
>what is the Guardian Angel

>> No.7484130

How important is elemental absorb for a melee character like a zealot
Can I get away with just max res without wearing stuff like Tgods or Dwarf Star?

>> No.7484158

>>7484130
Lightning absorb is important when fighting uber Mephisto and those lightning niggers that spawn in the World Stone Keep. Regular Meph kinda too because his charged bolt attack can actually one shot you but just having high lres is usually enough there. Otherwise, lightning absorb in other situations and and fire/cold absorb in general is not very important. Just having high res is enough.

>> No.7484168
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7484168

How's them grails coming?

I started mine January 2020, need Tyrael's/Templars, Mang Songs, Darkforce Spawn, and Wisp Projector

Want to finish before D2R so I can start a whole new one and continue having no life.

>> No.7484179

>>7483179
I love Energy Shield.

>> No.7484198

>>7483763
What weapon are you running

>> No.7484248

>>7484168
If you want to be a real no lifer, do the autism grail.
>acquire each derivative unique and set (e.g. super Wizardspike that had 95% all res in 1.07, Windforce gave +35 dex in 1.08)
>make every single runeword, including the wonky 1.07 runewords and the 1.10 beta runewords
>find a 6-affix rare jewel
>find a holy shield white scepter and a poison dagger head in 1.10+
>find at least one Mephisto merged unique
>make every craft, including all the weird ones in the early expansion versions
>get god stats on an imbued 1.07 craft, like a +4 sorc skills orb
>get a griswold's honor with a top tier auto affix
>make a unique or set prismatic amulet, as well a unique/set jade, garnet, coral and cobalt ring
>get some super classic rares
>get a 1.07 perfect all res% charm and a perfect +dmg charm
Basically, time travel around and acquire all of the best/rarest/weirdest gear in all the different versions.

>> No.7484253

>>7484096
Don't know if you're asking a question or not but level 20 resist lightning gives you +10 maximum lightning resist.

>> No.7484261

>>7484130
Depends on how much life you have; Tgod can make you immune to souls, which can be very nice for no-lifers.

>> No.7484292

>>7484096
are you by any chance the poster playing the holy shock paladin? you've probably been dumping points into resist lightning for its synergies. enough points into the resistance auras will passively increase your resistance cap

>> No.7484295

>>7484130
are you leveling to 99? you absolutely need lightning absorb to avoid the multiple gloam pack one shot that can happen just by entering throne.

>> No.7484325

>>7484248
>make every craft
>EVERY craft
M8 there's fucking quadrillions of combinations. It would probably take longer than the history of the universe to do that.

>> No.7484359

>>7484325
As in attempt each recipe at least once, not roll every possible value. I guess a better goal would be to attempt every single recipe in the game at least once for sake of completion.

>> No.7484387
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[ERROR]

>>7484168
Down to Stormlash and Astreons Iron Ward.

Having no luck.

>> No.7484445

>>7482550
Does it really come bundled with ransomware shit? How can people willingly download that stuff and run it?
Open source or bust.

>> No.7484734

>>7484253
oh and its passive +max, you don't have to have the aura activated. Really good if you're using vengence since it gives you elemental damage bonus as well as resists.

>> No.7484751

>>7484168
>not wisp protector
Still blows my mind I had it wrong all these years.

>> No.7484774

Finished up a HC Barb and now trying a Paladin. Going through normal now, I respeced to go into holy freeze on act 4 but I might have done it too early, probably doing less damage now, but holy freeze is quite safe to use and I'm getting my ass reamed by a lot of enemies.
HC is already scary, doing it with melee characters makes it even more scary but it is fun.

>> No.7484801

>>7484248
Is there more detail on what it takes to make a super autistic perfect grail stash? I recall reading some articles where players made a "rolling" character history, where they install each patch one at a time and farm the better versions of uniques in each. I love learning about all these little details.

>> No.7484829

>>7483632
>>7483638
Anon poe 2 renders are nice but the game is apiece of shit made by Obsidian
also 3d may look good, but blizzard is full of inbred monkeys from CalArts and UCLA who can't design for shit and keeps copying pixar.

>> No.7484871

>>7484751
RNG man, I was missing atma's scarab until just recently, and I've found multiple dwebs, dfathoms, metalgrid etc

>> No.7484896

I remember seeing once a green armor barb, he looked so fucking badass, is there a way to manipulate the colors of armor and whatnot to have them look with intense hues? gems tend to give my items colors too but they barely give you any color

>> No.7484963

>>7484445
>Open source or bust.
Why, yes, of course I can tell you're red pilled.

>> No.7484990

>>7484829
idgaf about it

>> No.7485048

>>7484801
See: https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/the-time-travelers-vortex-part-1-a-guide-to-spf-time-travel.933724/

It lists most of the notable finds. Maybe I'll try and write some autistic list of all the necessary finds for a truly autistic completionist's grail, although I'll have to research it and do some txt file digging.

>> No.7485107

>>7483249
where?

>> No.7485117

>>7484096
there are uniques that give you lightning absorb though

>> No.7485227

>>7484896
he was probably wearing either Leviathan or Templar's Might. the color scheme pairs well with green rare barb helms since they're the same hue. and you're right, putting emeralds into something turns the item a significantly darker hue.

>> No.7485402

>>7484168
where is this and how do you record it?

>> No.7485485

what the hell it just 1 hit me

>> No.7485489
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[ERROR]

>>7485485

>> No.7485545

>get to the end, hyped as shit
>pull levels because that's clearly what I'm supposed to do
>oh shit oh fuck it's the diablo
>Whack him with a sabre and fucking kill him
I only had to drink one potion. I know it was normal, but the rest of the game had more challenge than that

>> No.7485550

>>7485545
*levers, fuck

>> No.7485594

>>7485107
https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/1363-dsoal/
run game.exe in w7 compatibility if you're on w10, adjust alsoft.ini to your liking, I recommend the following tweaks:

frequency=48000
default-hrtf=irc_1052_48000 [more spatial sound with better lows]

get in game, enable 3d sound and environmental sounds, and wa la, echoes in caves and shit

>> No.7485601

>>7485402
https://d2-holy-grail.herokuapp.com
or
https://github.com/artcom-net/hg502
or
http://gomule.sourceforge.net

All are grail trackers.

>> No.7485615

>>7485594
Fuck that sounds good. Thanks anon. Do you change the 3D bias option in game at all?

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[ERROR]

>>7485615
>>7485594
I think act 3 just went from my least to most favourite act. God this sounds good.

>> No.7485637
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[ERROR]

Just trust us, dumb fucks!

>> No.7485659

>>7485615
nah, I leave the 3D bias in the middle

>> No.7485669

what build can solo game through all difficulties? I've done it with skele necro and wind druid but want to try something else. I play solo and offline (so solo-self found) without any mods.

>> No.7485685

>>7485669
Dumb question anon. All builds can solo through hell, you just need gear and time. If you're after some easy suggestions:

>Frost Bowzon. Use magic and guided arrow to support it. Can also replace those with a spear on switch for those jav/spear skills. Real chads use pure physical bow skills with magic arrow.
>Meteor/Frozen orb sorc
>Vengeance Paladin. Zero issues with immunities. Redemption used early on via switch for mana.
>Frenzy Barb

>> No.7485691

>>7485601
thank you

>> No.7485694

>>7485594
does this work with plugy and 1.14d?

>> No.7485705

>>7485694
Not him, but that's exactly how I got it to work. Though I had to use XP service pack 2, rather than windows 7 compatibility.

>> No.7485708

>>7485694
yeah, should work just fine

>> No.7485710

>>7485594
So as I get it I just need to copy the two .dll into the directory of diablo 2, right?

>> No.7485715

>>7485710
alsoft.ini, dsoal-aldrv.dll, and dsound.dll

>> No.7485716

>>7485705
>>7485708
right, thanks.

>> No.7485718

>>7485710
I just extracted the entire folder into the d2 directory.

>> No.7485724

>>7485715
Okay, I'll check it out later once work's done.
>>7485718
Right I'll try that if the other method didn't work.

>> No.7485748

>>7485637
>NO REALLY WE CAN'T SUPPORT SINGLEPLAYER
PoD was a mistake

>> No.7485783

>>7485685
Ok, theoretically i can farm Enigma on each char when given enough time. I ask about less gear-dependant options. Playing solo there's no anni, perfect rolled charms, no high level runewords and powerlevel is overall lower.
>Meteor/Frozen orb sorc
I've tried it and hit hard wall at the beginning of Hell. Farmed hell Pit ad nauseam to gear up (even dropped Kira's Guardian lol) but couldn't progress any further, I was too squishy and damage was lacking.
>Frenzy Barb and Vengeance Paladin
they're cool but I tend to die a lot since they're not ranged
>Frost Bowzon. Use magic and guided arrow to support it.
I'll try it, last time I played bowazon was before relase of LoD and it was underpowered unless you managed to get Windforce. Maybe time to give it another chance.

Bonemancer should be fine too i guess? White runeword isn't that difficult to assemble and rest of the gear is somewhat flexible.

>> No.7485790

>>7485783
>Vengeance Paladin
>die a lot
They're some of the most tanky in the game and oft used for hardcore. Trivialises resistances and you get high block chance. I don't know how you'd die easily.

>> No.7485801

>>7485783
>last time I played bowazon was before relase of LoD and it was underpowered
Still true for physical, but if you go for the elemental skills it's quite strong. Very mana hungry though.

>> No.7485812

>>7485783
Summonmancer can do it, naked even.

>> No.7485815

>>7485812
He said he's already done it with that.

>> No.7485874

>>7485815
oh

>> No.7485992

>>7485783
>no high level runewords
Look up LK farming, you can easily farm runes up to Ber these days.

>> No.7485994

>>7482462
Do I need basemod if I already have plugy?

>> No.7486003

>>7485994
>need
Nah. Basemod has a couple other features, but nothing you won't miss.

>> No.7486006
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[ERROR]

If only this had 2 more sockets
>>7484198
pic unrelated, I run some random blue scepter with 2 to holy shock and alot of attack rating

>> No.7486015

>>7486006
>attack rating
Don't forget that the Blessed Aim pally skill grants +5% attack rating per point invested even if you're not using the skill.

Good for any extra skill points you have or if your damage is good enough for the time being.

>> No.7486017

>>7486003
okay.

>> No.7486025

>>7486015
Is 20 into resist lightning aura a reason I have +10% to max lightning resistance.

Why do they have these hidden bonuses? Fucking hell

>> No.7486038

Diablo 2 has been up for 20+ years and until now there's no good guide out there for single players. Not that I am complaining but one of the things that turn off players who want to try it is the sheer amount of information they need to process as they go through the game.

>> No.7486051

>>7486025
Yes. If you have enough res to go over the standard cap, those three skills will give you an extra 1% to the cap per 2 points. Stops at 95% with gear on top of that. There's a few skills in the game like that, so it's worth looking at everything in the wiki at some point.

Stuff like points in Prayer will make Cleansing and Meditation also give it's life regen. Valkyrie gets bonuses from a few amazon skills. Ravens have the ability to blind enemies.

>>7486038
You don't really NEED to know most of this stuff. It's just extra. I knew none of this shit when I was a kid and still played single player through hell dozens of times.

>> No.7486071

>>7486051
>You don't really NEED to know most of this stuff. It's just extra. I knew none of this shit when I was a kid and still played single player through hell dozens of times.
Fair enough, but it'd be a very helpful heads up to give runewords and stats to look out for for newbies. Since you know, modern players really love to be babied and handheld.

>> No.7486096
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>>7486071
> Since you know, modern players really love to be babied and handheld.
Ain't that the truth. Does nobody appreciate the joy of discovery anymore? or learning from mistakes? I remember the first time I finally figured out what crushing blow did. Sure I didn't know the specifics, but I was able to work out what it did. Felt like a god. Or when I realized that summons teleport to you with a tp staff. Gamechanger.

People these days just don't bother to put the time into figuring things out for themselves. Like the countless faggots I see on the PoE threads on /vg/ running a build guide for their very first playthough. Drives me fucking nuts.

I'll give you runewords though, they're somewhat obtuse. But even then, the game does tell you about how to build one, literally gives you the runes for it and says there may be more to discover. Which SHOULD entice you to go look up more, ask someone or just experiment. You don't need a fucking stealth armour on your first character and it only makes you appreciate it more when you can compare how much of a difference it makes.

Have I become old? I'm only 28 for gods sake and young people already rustle my jimmies.

>> No.7486141

Will the remaster be compatible with all my old character save files?

>> No.7486142

>>7486141
We have no idea yet, but there will certainly be someone who creates a converter if not.

>> No.7486337

>>7486096
>Like the countless faggots I see on the PoE threads on /vg/ running a build guide for their very first playthough.
PoE is actually hard if you don't pick a guide so it's a good idea to follow one on first playthrough (and if you catch with basics, you can experiment). Diablo is not, you can beat normal even with totally shit build.

>> No.7486360

>>7486337
>PoE is actually hard if you don't pick a guide so it's a good idea to follow one on first playthrough
Fuck off. It's hard if you're a retard maybe. Slap on any gear and skills and with the slightest bit of thought you can at least make it to the easy maps.

>> No.7486375

>>7486337
>'hard' means you won't be crushing tier 17 maps first go
I hate this. Metafags should be dragged screaming by their hair into the street and be beaten in full public view.

Learn how to play the game and why to do the things you should do. Being told what to do is for brainlets and you should make mistakes the first few times playing. It's like you people don't want to actually play the game, you just want to have played it.

>> No.7486386

So I tried the openal and holy shit does it make the game better. But I noticed that whenever I tab out the sound of the game remains playing, is that normal? I'm playing on windowed and before I tried the openal tabbing out removes the sound of the game.

>> No.7486426

>>7486386
You can just drag the volume slider down if it annoys you. Also if you are on the main menu you can press ctrl + m to mute it.

I don't know of a way to mute it automatically in the background, but adding -sndbkg to your shortcut will force it to play in the background though, not really what you're after.

>> No.7486438

>>7486426
ok thanks.

>> No.7486440

>>7486375
>metafags
yeah, considering that (info coming from devs) average new player get destroyed by Act 1 boss and can't grasp concept of support gems - they instead run with shitload different non-linked skills.
>>7486360
it worked in Diablo, it worked when I started playing PoE in 2013. It's no longer the case, since they multiplied monsters HP few times so new players hit the wall immediately. I don't have problem with building strong chars, but I don't like being forced to meta-slaving - so I returned to comfy D2.

>> No.7486441

>>7486337
You can beat PoE's overly long tutorial (aka. the entire main campaign lol) with totally shit builds too.

>> No.7486456

>>7486440
>average new player get destroyed by Act 1 boss and can't grasp concept of support gems
Well that's obviously an issue of the average player being a low IQ retard who would be better suited to be playing a mobile tower defence game or the latest braindead first person shooter.

Seriously it's not hard to just read the two gem tooltips you get on the beach. Can they not even be bothered to do that? Good God.

Trying to account for the law of averages just end up hurting everyone. It's a shame a lot of companies are doing this, though.

>> No.7486465

>>7486456
Catering to idiots is the Great Filter. Prove me wrong.

Or more specifically the people who force others to cater to idiots are the Great Filter. We will never reach the stars because of these people.

>> No.7486489

>>7486441
>the entire main campaign
They really need to shorten that. So damn tedious doing it for the 80th time.

>> No.7486607
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Oh fug. No need to wait on your grails, boys.

>>7486141
anon you got your answer pretty fast

>Can we import original save files into Diablo 2: Resurrected?

>Matthew: Yes! Yes, keep those!
>Matthew: Back when we were working on [the remaster], we wondered if the old save files would work and we kind of shoved it in and it worked! And we were like, ‘okay, that’s the best feature ever’.


https://me.ign.com/en/pc/182380/interview/what-it-takes-to-remaster-a-cult-classic-like-diablo-ii

>> No.7486630

>>7486456
>>7486440
>average players get destroyed by act 1 boss
That's absolutely false, go fuck yourself. I'm, not saying such people don't exist, but they definitely aren't average nor a big portion.

>> No.7486639

>>7486630
>>7486440
How about one of you provide a link to the dev statement supporting your claim then?

>> No.7486647

>>7486607
Damn that's disappointing. That pretty much guarantees that D2R modding will be shit-tier. It means they didn't change save/stat file structure, two of the biggest issues in modding.

>> No.7486656

>>7486639
the burden of proof is on someone swinging wild claims like "everyone is a retard who cant grasp the basic game mechanic", not me.

>> No.7486728

>>7486647
>It means they didn't change save/stat file structure, two of the biggest issues in modding.
If it's any consolation, OpenDiablo2 should theoretically allow the removal any sort of limitations. As I understand it, the goal of 1.0 is a fully functional replica of D2, but post 1.0, who knows what kind of cool contributions or forks there will be. Same goes for devilutionX. Sure, we don't get the fancy 3D graphics, but it's still D2.
https://github.com/OpenDiablo2/OpenDiablo2
https://github.com/diasurgical/devilutionX/

>> No.7486780

you guys think they'll fix defense and energy in diablo 2 remaster?

>> No.7486784

>>7486780
Depends on what you think needs fixing about them. That's quite vague.

>> No.7486802

>>7486784
i don't really know how to fix energy since it's a pretty much a useless stat.
defense on the other hand, make it reduce damage instead of mattering in hit chance?

>> No.7486813

>>7486802
You're after a remake and not a remaster. Changing defence to do that would require an overhaul of most items in the game and how many mechanics function.

>> No.7486820

>>7486728
Why get Fancy graphics when you can change the renderer and fix the color palette issues and replace it with proper fanmade upscaling or new sprites?
WHich is why i hope they do that, proper widescreen and hdpack would be nice over the Refunded ugly 3d pixar shit that blizzard does it nowadays

>> No.7486851

>>7486802
Energy will not be a useless stat if they fix the manaburn bug like they promised. Suddenly, ES sorc is good. Of course, it's the sorceress again.

>> No.7486919

>>7486820
>fix the color palette issues and replace it with proper fanmade upscaling or new sprites?
That would be amazing, both for D1 and D2. Higher res graphics while almost perfectly preserving the original art style.
And here's a thought: for OpenDiablo2, there's no reason a 3D rendering engine couldn't be implemented that could take advantage of the D2 Resurrected models. It would require a great amount of effort to implement the rendering engine and reverse-engineer the D2R model format, but as long as the models are kept client-side (as opposed to being streamed from a server) there's no reason it couldn't work. You'd get a 3D Diablo 2 without having the baggage of needing a Bnet account, or any garbage Blizzard my want to push in the future. Someone just has to upload the model archives to The Internet Archive and we'd be set.

>> No.7486925

>>7486919
>or any garbage Blizzard my want to push in the future
*or any garbage Blizzard might want to push in the future

>> No.7486950

>>7486038
Theres arreat summit if you just want the basic info. There are no real guides because each build will have different strategies and each class has a minimum of three popular builds. Drops are random as well so you can't tell people to just go get this or that item, at best you'll be looking at rune words with super basic runes like Stealth.

>> No.7486954

>>7486950
Link to arreat summit
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/

Seriously, that site is the official Blizzard site and has all the info you'd need starting out.

>> No.7487004

What's the suggested level to go Nightmare?

>> No.7487040

>>7486802
>defense on the other hand, make it reduce damage instead of mattering in hit chance?
Reading this post made me rather angry, ngl.

>> No.7487049

>>7487004
Dumb question. Entirely dependant on you gear and class. However, the monsters of the blood moor in nightmare are level 36, so that's a decent ballpark answer.

>> No.7487053

>>7487049
ok thanks.

>> No.7487084

Anyone got a holy grail tracker that actually has runewords? Think I'm going to have to make a spreadsheet.

>> No.7487105

>>7487084
https://d2-holy-grail.herokuapp.com/mike/runeword/runewords

>> No.7487108

>>7486820
they'll fix the manaburn bug? finally i can play a whirlwind barb without getting the desire to smash my monitor

>> No.7487135

>>7487108
If OpenDiablo2 comes with External asset load as War3 and a better image and even model output for it, the potential for modding is limitless

same goes for D1 if the guy does the same
Upscaled D1 would be the tits

>> No.7487248

>playing hc zealot
>get to diablo in normal
>multiple times I get stuck in the zeal animation while he's doing the lightning attack and my health globe practically disappears but somehow I never die
Holy shit that was intense

>> No.7487341
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7487341

Are one of you /vros/ in this thread the guy from /v/ that said diablo 1's atmosphere etc is unmatched by the sequels? Thanks to you I've installed it, cheers amigo

>> No.7487349

>leveling dual wield barb for the first time, putting points into double swing as I level
>okay, only costs two mana not bad I can just put this on left click and forget about it
>few levels later mana costs drops to one
>nice, i'm gonna make a post about how based this skill is in the diablo thread later
>few levels later, mana cost is completely removed
holy FUCK dual wield barbs have it easy. I've only even made a two hand ww barb and it's like pulling teeth the entire way through. double swing is so fucking comfy!

>> No.7487358
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7487358

Look at what normal uncle baal dropped for me, too bad it's eth.

>> No.7487363

>>7487341
>Are one of you /vros/ in this thread the guy from /v/ that said diablo 1's atmosphere etc is unmatched by the sequels?
It's a very common sentiment. D1 has a magic atmosphere unlike most any other game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLo-1Sjkr8

D2s is great as well, but of an entirely different type.

You should give The Hell 2 a try at some point. It's a D1 mod, with much more character customisation and the ability to kick you in the teeth with difficulty.

>> No.7487369

>>7487349
Yeah there's nothing like just moving between enemies with double swing. Are you using frenzy as well? The go-to is building up frenzy charges, then swapping to double swing to take advantage of the attacks speed.

>> No.7487375

>>7487358
intredasting. Could be useful if you're careful with it.

>> No.7487376

>>7487358
What do you mean too bad? Eth still benefits from replenish and self repair.

>> No.7487384

>>7487369
Currently level 16, but you bet I'll be using frenzy.

>> No.7487402

>>7487384
>>7487349
The fact you can just hold down right click with it an move from enemy to enemy is amazing.

>> No.7487403

>>7487375
>careful
Why? I mean, because it'll run out? I'll just have to wait for it to replenish, right?
>>7487376
Well, waiting for it to replenish will be a bit of a nuisance at times when I wanna repair it for fury. But it's really nice because of the +2 skills.

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7487406

Didn't expect such a high level drop in nm act3

>> No.7487410

what am I supposed to do with this +2 skill Arkaine's Valor
I wanted to put it on a barb but I'd be missing out on damage and resists compared to Fortitude

>> No.7487414

PD2 Season 2 March 12, anyone playing?

It such an incredible mod that really carries forward the vision and feel of vanilla D2.

>> No.7487420

>>7487403
If it runs out it will disappear, I'm 99% sure.

>> No.7487424

>>7487410
It's real good on Hardcore paladins.

>> No.7487430

>>7487414
see
>>7485748
>>7484445
>>7482550
>>7485637

>> No.7487456

Whenever I fight skeletal mages I want to play skelemancer.
Whenever I fight any boss that does an aoe with heavy damage I'm glad I'm not one

>> No.7487460
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Dropped this last night, been looking forever to replace my shit 8%er and Pindle drops this. I was ecstatic.

>> No.7487462

>>7487430
This is straight autism though.

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>>7487462

>> No.7487471

>>7487460
Always wanted to make a cold bowzon with one of those.

>> No.7487473

>>7487420
Blue javelins and above don't disappear, they just disappear graphically, my other jav certainly didn't.

>> No.7487479

>>7487465
I get it, but I've been playing D2xLoD for years and PD2 is straight magic with a really great dev team. Its not worth missing if you love Diablo.

>> No.7487481

>>7487473
Were they eth as well?

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7487486

>>7487479
>requires online for most stuff to work

>> No.7487487

>>7487481
They weren't but that eth has replenish so I assume it won't disappear.

>> No.7487490

Does player mupliplier do anything if I want to farm bosses?

>> No.7487491

>>7487471
Ice bowazon is my favorite build in the game

Got a 5/5 cold facet ready for the nightwings, unfortunately I'm out of socket quests so I'll have to run a dude to larzuk

>> No.7487493

>>7487406
Slightly related, isn't Tal's amulet somehow fucky and it can drop unusually early?

>> No.7487494

>>7487487
>>7487481
>>7487473
I just spawned one in to test it and he's right, they become unusable, but don't actually disappear.

>> No.7487495

>>7487487
Only one way to find out. Come back and tell us how it went.

>> No.7487496

>>7487486
I understand your a contrarian but my computer is connected to the internet. Are you phone posting on your 3G? lmao

>> No.7487509

>>7487490
Sure does. Gives them more HP, damage and attack rating, but they also drop more items.

Works on regular monsters and proper bosses, but not super enemies like champions, regular boss packs and 'always spawning' mini bosses like pindleskin.

>> No.7487516

>>7487495
I'll try it later. I'm taking a break right now.
>>7487494
They do not replenish?

>> No.7487518

>>7487496
You wouldn't get it.

>> No.7487521

>>7487516
>They do not replenish?
No, they do, you just use the weapon until it has at least 1 quantity.

>> No.7487523

>>7487521
just *can't use

>> No.7487525

>>7487406
Man that is such a godtier drop for a melee char

>> No.7487527

>>7487521
>>7487523
Oh, all right. Thanks for testing.

>> No.7487529

>>7487518
Yeah, you wouldn't get it either. Its probably for the best you just keep your autistic ass in single player normal mode.

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>>7487496
>lets remove features from a 20 year old game

>> No.7487536

>>7487509
HP and damage yeah but I wonder if it's worth putting it on for items because of how it works. Pretty big read with some calculations on how item drop actually works.

>> No.7487543

>>7487536
It's only worth it if you are overkilling enemies or killing them really fast. Switching it on for meph farming or something is totally worth it.

>> No.7487546

>>7487543
>Switching it on for meph
I was kinda thinking the other way around, I kill most packs with enough speed to make x7 worth, but meph takes ages.

>> No.7487553

>>7487546
>enough speed to make x7 worth
You sure about that? What character/build?

>> No.7487554

>>7487546
Okay, so enemies have a maximum total number of possible drops per kill. It's like 6 or 8 or something like that, I can't recall exactly.

Using the players command increases the number of items dropped, but act bosses like meph, diablo and baal already always drop a certain amount of items. So it's never worth going over players 5 for act bosses as they literally can't drop more. Hell the difference between 3 and 5 is nearly negligible.

Outside of XP farming of course.

>> No.7487557

>>7487554
but yes if you're really killing regular mobs so fast you can make p5 or 7 work, go for it. I, whenever getting to the first waypoint in act 5, grind the boss pack just beyond it for levels, gear and money.

>> No.7487559

>>7487557
meant for >>7487546

>> No.7487568

>>7487493
yeah, has a qlvl of 26 or some shit so it can drop in act 3 normal

>> No.7487572

>>7487493
yes I think the whole set is defined by "set level" or something wonky instead of quality or item level. I have found Tal's ammy in Act 5 of Normal. and that was back when I didn't know it could drop there, so I was pretty shocked.

>> No.7487576

>>7487572
>>7487568
I dropped a titans or thunderstroke (whichever is the lesser tier) from normal baal once. Pretty cool

>> No.7487581

>>7487576
I know titan's can drop from norm baal. didn't think tstrokes could. interesting if they can.

>> No.7487584

>>7487576
How fucking lucky can you be to get a fucking titan of all items from normal baal

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>>7487584
Not very lucky, actually.

>> No.7487607

>>7487596
1 in 1k damn. Stil lucko mate, if it was a javazon very nice find

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>>7487553
I think so yeah, shock zealot.
>>7487557
>>7487554
Will do, might reduce to 5 just before meph.

>> No.7487618

>>7487613
If you've got some crushing blow, it'll really help speed up the boss kills. Hell even on the merc is top tier.

>> No.7487619

>>7487613
Can't you get a faster aspd with a cutlass? The zeal is so sloooooooooooow.

>> No.7487621

>>7487619
Got spineripper recently, fastest weapon I've had so far. No aspd items found yet unfortunately.

>> No.7487625

>>7487619
>so sloooooooooooow.
not him, but it's not that slow, m8. There's plenty of slower weapons.

>> No.7487635

>>7487619
>t. zealfag used to his fanat with 6,000,000% attack speed on gear
He's on nightmare.

>> No.7487663

>>7487621
A simple magic cutlass with +20 aspd (probably can be bought from a vendor, not too sure though) would give you a nice damage boost because it's faster.
>>7487625
>>7487635
Magic. Cutlass.

>> No.7487696

>>7487663
couldn't you just buy a 3os flail in A2 of normal and shove 3 shaels into it?

>> No.7487713

>>7487696
Yes. HS zealers get a lot of bang for almost nothing.

>> No.7487734
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7487734

So I've been trying Median XL for the first time, and it seems every char gets uber high-dealing area-damaging spells from the start is this normal? does it get too much harder afterwards? Just reached act 3 with my barb (lv 37) and everything was curbstomped so far

>> No.7487843

>>7487663
Got flail with 30% attack speed, feels much faster. For a rather low damage loss.

>> No.7488112

frenzy barb is 2fast4me

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>>7487663
>>7487619
Happy now?

>> No.7488174

>>7488116
Mmm, speedy

>> No.7488332

>>7487525
Yeah...but it's part of a caster set...doesn't make any sense!

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>>7487734
MXL has changed quite a bit since I last played it, but I remember it only really being difficult in the uber levels and against a few of the elite packs. The mod is largely about beating its post-Baal content and Level Challenges.

>> No.7488431

question on hirelings, do they just stop getting any more resists once they have 75 in hell? I have a level 91 merc and found an andariel's visage for him but he's gone down to 45 fire resist, when he levels will he gain more resistance?

>> No.7488437

>>7488416
>+3600% enhanced damage
>all resistances +700
Topkek what mod is that?

>> No.7488494

>>7488332
It does in a D2 kind of way. Can't have you get a full set and not think about the other items you could be using.

>> No.7488523

>>7488494
kek exactly. I have a frenzy barb with 1 hard point in whirlwind using full IK set with the hammer on swap. I know he could probably be better using things like fort, Drac's/LoH, gores, Arreat's, Nosferatu's, etc. but I really like having a character in a full set.

>> No.7488561

Do you guys all play on players 8?

>> No.7488782

>>7488561
God no. Thats only for end game grinding or personal challenges.

>> No.7488809

>>7488782
Hey now, its pretty useful in act 1 normal and you just want to get some dings in.

>> No.7488813

>>7488561
not in the slightest. though I did once specifically start a light sorc to play on players8 from creation through hell baal. fun times.

>> No.7488819

>>7488782
>>7488813
Ok cool, I see mixed opinions on it but I always played just the base player level and didn't have too many issues (the first barb I did felt undergrads and under leveled when I hit Diablo though)

>> No.7488821

>>7488819
It's a tool, like everything else in the game. Learn how it works and use it to your advantage.

>> No.7488840

God these questions. I'm half tempted to design up images I can just throw at people. "anons guide to diablo II for brainlets - part X 'the players command".

>> No.7488847

>>7488840
I think everyone here would think it was cool of you to take the time to do so.

>> No.7488861

>>7488494
I can't find the amulet for that sweet sweet lightning damage.

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>>7488861
Oh yeah the amu, that's the hard part. Yeah, having real hard finding that one.

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>>7488437
It's called Alchemy. Not much of a point to the absurd gear since the enemies are as strong as vanilla. Like playing on open bnet. I'm compiling a list of all the different mods, no matter how absurd, sorting them by genres and giving them very brief descriptions.

>> No.7488936

>>7488561
p3 or p5 when farming. P8 only for testing how powerful I am.

>> No.7489015

>>7487596
which dropcalc is this? silospen has been down for days now

>> No.7489021

>>7489015
Works on my machine :^)

http://dropcalc.silospen.com/item.php

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>>7489021
:(

>> No.7489035

>>7489029
nvm fixed it

>> No.7489037

>>7489029
Have you tried a different browser? Do you have javascript installed?

>> No.7489061

>>7489037
I figured it out, it's because I have HTTPS only mode turned on

>> No.7489064

>>7489061
also got brainlet mode turned on, too

>> No.7489104

>>7482989
God damn I know this feeling

>> No.7489110

Every one hush up and post ur dudes

>> No.7489121
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>>7489110
Ain't got no dudes, but I do have a 38/15 in this.

>> No.7489265

>>7486639
>>7486656
I recall Chris Wilson told that in some podcast, can't find it now. Anyway, game statistics are free for everyone to see.

>According to Steam only 45.6% have killed Brutus and 39% have killed Merveil. I expect that ppl who install the standalone client would do better than that though.

>15.9% have beaten Normal difficulty in a non-hardcore league
8.2% have beaten Cruel difficulty in a non-hardcore league
4.6% have beaten Merciless difficulty in a non-hardcore league

>6.0% have cleared at least one map

>So at least according to Steam, it seems right that only around 5% of players will reach and play maps. That's a statistic that comprehends all the time the game has been on Steam, so it seems fair to think that this number will be higher among current active players.

>Given those numbers I would say that at least 10-20% of the player base that do not install the game once and leave shortly after will experience maps and the Atlas at least in some form. And I am including here a lot of people who doesn't even finish normal difficulty.

>If we exclude everyone who has not even finished normal difficulty, these numbers say that 37.73% of those who finish normal difficulty have at least fully cleared one map (again among those who play or have played through Steam).

You're biased thinking that average player is some D2 veteran. I used to think like that, but the truth is that average player is retarded and can't figure things on his own.

>> No.7489292

>>7489265
Based. I was right. >>7486465 Gas the brainlets, IQ war now.

>> No.7489491

>>7489265
It's more likely that people get bored and stop playing the game, you absolutely do not need support gems to kill Brutus. Merveil is actually the first hard encounter where you need to get frost resistance or you're fucked and such a small difference between brutus (45.6%) and merveil (39%) kills suggest me its not the difficulty being the biggest barrier to the people quitting.

>> No.7489569

>>7489491
Fool.

>> No.7489618
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7489618

This looks dope. Is it good?

>> No.7489624

>>7489491
it roams too far from point I originally made, and enough about PoE. Just wait for Diablo remaster and see how lost and confused will be majority of new players - despite Diablo 2 isn't that hard to figure out. you just vastly overestimate average player intelligence and dedication to try some things himself.

>> No.7489626

>>7489618
Quite strong early on, as finding high damaging bows is a pain. Even if you're not a fire bowzon, it still helps other skills out.

The "fires explosive arrows or bolts" will be used in replace of your regular attack.

>> No.7489638
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7489638

pretty gud

>> No.7489641

>>7489638
Nice. Gonna do anything with it?

>> No.7489645

>>7489641
I'm farming Faith and I don't have a Jah so it'll be a while until that's gonna get used

>> No.7489649

>>7489645
Faith is great. I love putting it on an act 1 merc when using a Windforce myself. Good luck.

>> No.7489652

>>7489649
Yeah I probably shouldn't put my first Faith in an Amazon only bows, I have a history of picking sub par base for my runewords, I put my Infinity in a GPA and my Enigma in an Archon Plate

>> No.7489653

>>7489624
>Just wait for Diablo remaster and see how lost and confused will be majority of new players
I'm going to avoid these threads for like a month on release. There's already enough brainlets.

>> No.7489656

>>7489652
I'd take attack speed frames for strafe into account when picking the bow base.

>> No.7489671

>>7489652
Isn't GPA the best possible all around base for Infinity, though?

>> No.7489675

I hope the remaster tweaks the mercenaries and make them better specially act 5's barbs.

>> No.7489679

>>7489671
Why do you think so? I think a faster base like Thresher is good so you get more crushing blows

>> No.7489683

>>7489679
Can you put infinity in a thresher? Last I read you can't

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>>7489683

>> No.7489687

my act 2 merc keeps dying? Do I replace him with something else or is there some way to make him more survivable? He's res capped wih life leech.

>> No.7489697

>>7489687
You can feed your merc potions by pressing shift and whatever key you bound your potions to

>> No.7489703

>>7489683
Yes, you can.
>>7489679
Mercs have attack speed breakpoints just like PCs. If I remember correctly GPAs have the best damage output almost always with Cryptic Axe having the edge at few certain attack speed levels. Don't know if these calculations took CBs into consideration but I wouldn't be too sorry for putting Infinity in a GPA.

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7489704

>>7489686
>all that text

>> No.7489712

>>7489697
Thanks.

>> No.7489721

>>7489686
cool

>> No.7489774

Diablo 2 mod idea:
>Extract all monster 3D models and animations from D3
>Render necessary frames in Blender (or whatever software package)
>Make new monsters for D2 with the sprites
>When you start a new game, a selection of the classic D2 and D3 monsters are chosen for each area.
>With the expanded bestiary, you won't be able to see everything on one play-through, similar to D1.
>Each area is now less predictable, because the Blood Moor, for example, might be something other than Fallen, Zombies, and Quill Rats.

>> No.7489880

>>7489265
>>According to Steam only 45.6% have killed Brutus and 39% have killed Merveil. I expect that ppl who install the standalone client would do better than that though.
>>15.9% have beaten Normal difficulty in a non-hardcore league
>8.2% have beaten Cruel difficulty in a non-hardcore league
>4.6% have beaten Merciless difficulty in a non-hardcore league

Not retro >>>/v/tards need to go back.

>> No.7489941

>>7489774
Unfeasible, you could find many modders willing to add in new stats/skills/auras/sequences/whatever to monsters to make them fun or different to fight, but no one would be willing to do the monster processing.

>> No.7489949

>>7489880
Follow the chain of conversation you fuckwit.

>> No.7489978
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7489978

Enjoying the thread, you guys are making me want to play diablo 2 again. I've never played above normal cuz I kept starting different characters, but I have beaten the game on normal so I could pick up a fresh playthrough in next difficulty, what do you guys recommend for getting back into it after several years? I just want maximum single player fun, cozy d2 ya know. I'm thinking bounce between a new necro since I never had one and also resume next playthrough with my barb I cleared normal with. Never had plugy installed before so I grabbed it too

>> No.7490018

>>7489978
Recommend sorceress if you want to finish the game in singleplayer mode.
Few points to support frozen orb, the rest into fireball/chain lightning will make you able to finish hell without fancy runewords.

Atleast that's the only character I've beaten the game as.

>> No.7490097

>>7489978
druid

>> No.7490167

>>7489978
Necro is always fun.

>> No.7490179

>>7488116
FASTER

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>>7490097
>>7490167
>>7490018

Thanks crew. I've never tried /players 8 with plug y, but it sounds like it's ideal for single player for the sake of drops, is that recommended or? Again I'm just here for maximum fun, I wanna enjoy fighting crap and just chill

>> No.7490341

>>7490336
>I've never tried /players 8
If you want to spend such a ridiculous amount of time, go for it. It's only worth it when farming bosses and key areas like the chaos sanctuary in endgame. Don't play the whole game with it on.

I'll use it when I get to act 5, at the first way point there is a boss pack that always spawn right above it. Good for leveling a bit.

>> No.7490361

>>7490341
That makes sense, thanks!

>> No.7490363
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>>7477128
These changes are in now.

>> No.7490464

How do I deal with lightning immunities as shock zealot

>> No.7490469

>>7490464
Get your merc to hit them, use another skill like holy freeze, or just skip them.

>> No.7490482

>>7490464
>>7490469
Oh and you can buy a wand with low resistance charges too. That'll sometimes break immunities.

You can also use the conviction aura, too.

>> No.7490483

>>7490464
I think Crescent Moon breaks immunities, doesn't it?

>> No.7490492

>>7490483
Yeah that sounds good, just need a 22 rune. Gonna be a heck to farm it.

>> No.7490493

>>7490336
I only ever use p8 when farming LK for runes and when I want to test how strong my build is on Chaos Sanc or WSK runs. Maybe some pit runs too but that's a bit too dangerous imo.
AFAIK even Baal and Meph "maxes" out at p3.

>> No.7490496

>>7490464
look for wands that break resist, ormus act 3.

>> No.7490497

>>7490493
>maxes out
I mean maxes out at drops

>> No.7490512

>>7490492
Hell countess is probably your best bet. LK is good too.

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>have been beating random Diablo 2 mods for more than a decade, goal is to beat literally all of them
>got worried I would run out of mods a few years ago
>check moddb, there are a bazillion new mods
>found an entire source of wacky Polish mods that have been developed for at least a decade
>also some Russian mods
>also D2R is going to release, which will likely have hundreds of mods
I'm never going to run out of content at this rate.

>> No.7490527

>>7490515
>he didn't use moddb
kek. Endless fun there. Been using it for many games over the years.

Where are you drawing the line on what mods to play? Like there are some with minor balance changes e.g.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/diablo-ii-115

but then there's ludicrous stuff like your pic, or this:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/paragon-meme

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7490531

>>7490527
>>7490515
Like what the fuck am I even looking at?

>> No.7490535

>>7490464
Like I (we) told you before, you can either use secondary type of damage or break the immunity.
Holy Freeze is the easiest way to deal with lightning immunes, you just need to level up two skills. You can easily have it maxed even with its synergy alongside HS and its synergy.
Or, if you were lucky and found a nice fast and also strong weapon, you can use the physical route. Simply level up Sacrifice and Fanaticism or something.
Crescent moon shall not break immunities by itself. For reasons you need to be able to lower the lightning resistance by at least 55% to break most of game's lightning immunities. That means you need at least level 10 Lower Resist curse (I don't think you can buy a wand with this from vendors) or level 6 Conviction aura (which you can get easily enough but you will not have active Holy Shock aura which kinda ruins the purpose, unless you have a Dream runeword on some item, which you don't).
And even if you break the immunity, for reasons monsters will still have like 95+ lightning res so you will do minuscule damage, anyway, unless you have Crescent Moon which you also don't. Don't bother with trying to break immunities right now.
Just level up that Holy Freeze. Respec if you have to. Take skill points away from Holy Shield if you leveled it up above 1 hard skill point and put it all into Holy Freeze and Resist Cold. You don't really need Holy Shield above 1 hard point anyway, maxing it is for smiters, not zealers.

>> No.7490542

>>7490482
>turn off your holy shock to use conviction to break lightning immunities so your holy shock can damage them
big think
Lower res wand is indeed the correct course of action

>> No.7490543

>>7490515
Warcraft 3 skill on the left

>> No.7490545

>>7490515
Have you beaten hell unleashed on hell? I remember exploring the final areas of that mod with one of the characters that's 99.999% trainer jewels. Even then the damage I did was barely denting some of the mobs and I gave up long before I managed to get to baal.

>> No.7490556

>>7490515
nice arcanum gun bro

>> No.7490583
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>>7490527
I do use moddb, but the last time I checked was years ago. Pretty much the only mods I won't play are
>tiny mods that change so little that it'll play exactly like vanilla
>mods that are forced multiplayer only (Path of Diablo)
>mods that constantly, consistently crash (I'll probably play these eventually if I learn how to fix them)
I'll even play drop mods, it's very fun to see how quickly I can rush through the game as a sorceress. I will definitely play both of those mods in time, they both look funny.

>>7490531
Those are my favorite kind of mods, the ones that don't give a shit at all, where you become some open bnet-tier monster by the end of the game.

>>7490545
I'm saving those "holy fuck multiplayer mods" for last. I don't like thinking about them, but I know I will have to beat them eventually. The farthest I've gotten on one with minimal grinding is act 5 normal. I expect it to take thousands of hours of grinding and 3+ consecutive, perfect hours of fighting on each end game Hell boss.

>> No.7490623

>>7490535
Alright, thanks. Gonna do some skill building later also fishing for some decent non-lightning weapon to use.

>> No.7490672

>>7490583
The tip to HU I have for you is to load up on diamonds in your helm and armor. First time I played that mod I was having genuine problems despite having two friends with me. Like, I genuinely wanted to quit playing the game towards the end of act 3 normal. I decided to go back to the mod a few years later to see if they had made any improvements. I figured I might try to use the diamonds because they seemed somewhat useful and by the time I got to nightmare I was looking at a vengence paladin that was tanking almost everything while dealing absurd level of damage and nightmare turned out to be easier than normal. It was only when I got to Hell that it started becoming more of a chore to beat some of the game because some monsters just started having absurd amounts of life.

>> No.7490698

>>7490623
Try to find a 3os Phaseblade and run do some Hell Cuntess runs. Um rune will drop sooner or later. It's kinda rare but not too much. You can also cube it up from lower runes you find from the Countess. You will also level up some and probably find a Lem rune in the process, which you also want. Treachery is probably your best armor (after Enigma). Phaseblades drop for sure in the Mausoleum and the Pit but you are probably too low level for that right now. Some other optional Act 1 dungeons might be what you are looking for.

>> No.7490747

>>7490698
The problem with Countess runs is that its filled with ghosts so I might struggle with those. but I'll see. So far breezing through nm act5 with 75 75 85 75 res, 100% magic find on x5

>> No.7490750

>>7490747
Skip the ghosts then. You're farming the place for countess drops. Don't waste your time.

>> No.7490768

>>7490747
I can't remember from top of my head but all ghosts are cold immune, aren't they? Holy shock should shred them. Maybe you are just too low level and probably miss a lot. You might want to grind nm Bhaal runs until you are like level 70. That's a nice point where you might want to proceed to hell difficulty.
>>7490750
I don't know the area level but higher levels of the Tower probably also drop Phaseblades along with um runes and elite light armors so it's kinda worth killing everything but yeah, if it slows you down too much I would just skip them.

>> No.7490769

>>7489941
>Monster processing
Rendering the frames of animation could be done with a script in Blender. Would take some time to make it bug free, but would be a lot faster than manually opening files and rendering monsters.

>> No.7490793

>>7490768
>cold immune
Might also be physical immune if my memorh serves correctly. Regardless ahould be easy. Thought they were lightning.

>> No.7490832

>>7490793
Oh yeah they are obviously physical immune and can't be chilled. They might have rather high cold resistance, though.

>> No.7490948

>>7490769
>https://d2mods.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14662
If you're serious, then I encourage you to try. This is the best guide I can find on the entire process, although there's probably tools around somewhere that can do parts of it as well. If someone actually converts the models, then I'd gladly stat and skill and propagate them.

>> No.7490981

>>7490363
Alright. The first solution I've been thinking for the charged affix skills is to leave the original special affix system in place, but to change the skills (that need it) to level-scaling versions that get their scaling multiplier adjusted by the actual skill level of the charges. For example, the skill used by Fire Bolt charges would be something like "Level slvl*(0.1*clvl) Fire Bolt"

Would that work or be practical?

>> No.7491021

>>7490948
I was just sharing an idea more than anything else. Right now I have too many personal projects so I can't take on another. Though I have been wanting to tinker with D2 modding. I've always thought it would be cool to add all the D1 monsters to D2, which would certainly be an easier endeavor, given that you already have the sprites.

>> No.7491030

>>7490793
I have actually checked the area levels and it seems that Phaseblades can drop in all levels of the Forgotten Tower, fucking Den of Evil (which is actually a level 79 area, never knew that), all optional Act 1 dungeons, the Burial Grounds and in Catacombs 2 and lower levels.
I suggest you do Countess runs while trying to kill everything in the Forgotten Tower as much as immunities and difficulty allows you to in order to get your hands on a 3os Phaseblade. Who knows, maybe you will also drop the Um, Lem, a nice elite light armor and some other stuff. You will also level up.
Remember that you can also make a random number of holes in a white item with horadric cube recipe. Ral, Amn, a perfect Amethyst and the white item you want to penetrate, I think.

>> No.7491318

>>7490981
That would work, all it would require is cloning those skills and slightly restructuring them so that they can properly take skill level into account.

>> No.7492125

>>7491030
Whats a "3os"?

>> No.7492138

>>7492125
3 open socket

>> No.7492372

>>7491030
Ral Amn, perfect amethyst for weapons
Tal Thul perfect topaz for armors
Tal Amn perfect ruby for shields.
Ral Thul perfect sapphire for helms

>> No.7492396

So Median XL just fucking... does something to Diablo 2 installs. Even after 'uninstalling' Median XL from a D2 folder, there's still files there referencing "MXL", and trying to patch the game from the 1.13c to 1.14d just causes the game to crash on startup. So thats fun.

>> No.7492421

>>7492396
That's what you get for installing such a trash mod.

>> No.7492430

>>7492421
I didnt mind it, but I want to have two folders side by side, one with Median XL and one with just the base game + PlugY. But it seems the world doesn't want that to work right. I guess unless I completely uninstall median XL, maybe my diablo 2 install, install d2 from scratch and updated to 1.14d then install plugy, then copy that folder somewhere else to never be touched again and then install median XL on the original folder...

>> No.7492495

>>7487496
Can you send me your credit card information? And your email address account and password too, please. Just trust me.

>> No.7492586

which does ladder runewords and world event better, plugy or basemod? which should I let handle that shit

>> No.7492663
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7492663

Do you guys time your runs?

>> No.7492728

>>7492430
dude use D2SE to switch from patches/mods with just a click

>> No.7492756

>>7492430
also for mxl use the offline tools found on the forum its like plugy+hero editor and etc but all rolled together for mxl only

>> No.7492987
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7492987

noice

>> No.7493015
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7493015

good drops from council to get me ready for hell

>> No.7493020
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7493020

>>7493015

>> No.7493040

>>7493020
Breddy good boots.

>> No.7493052

>>7493040
yeah, my current boots has 34% mf which i will keep whenever i farm bosses but i'll use bitter tread most of the time.
i also got sander's boots from meph but i dont think it's worth losing 34 mf for 40 movement

>> No.7493105

>>7493052
It actually might be. You do a lot of running, which if you can reduce means less time between bosses.

Difficult to judge. Though you could just keep in inventory and swap when fighting bosses.

>> No.7493121

>>7493105
Right. Although I have a teleport staff ready for quick boss runs

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Wow I never knew that 11% small charms for resistance existed

>> No.7493258
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>> No.7493476
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7493476

Place your bets

>> No.7493491

>>7493476
>eth
Doesn't matter, it's worthless. Thus, I'd hope it is a Veil of Steel. But we both know it's going to be a Nightwing's Veil with 15% CSD and 9 cold absorb.

>> No.7493501
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7493501

>>7493491
Close enough

>> No.7493507

>>7493501
KEK

>> No.7493643

>>7489265
Check statistics on any free to play game. Path of exile filters many at strand because it (at least in the past) was very slow in the beginning and the animations felt really bad.

Most normal intelligent people will not play a game for hours they don't like.

>> No.7493698

>>7492728
D2SE only goes up to 1.13c IIRC, so that doesn't doesn't solve the problem. I don't know why but part of my brain wants me to use 1.14d.

>>7492756
Isn't that just tools for working with MXL? I want a version of the game without MXL.

>> No.7493804

>>7493501
Lel, better start grinding for that Zod.

>> No.7493854

will the remaster up the stash gold limit? It's only at 2.6m right now.

>> No.7493873

>>7493854
and since they're adding auto gold-pickup, your stash is gonna fill up that much faster so I could see the justification for upping the limit, I suppose.

>> No.7493883

>>7493873
I hope they do. I'm addicted to gambling items and such.

>> No.7493937
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7493937

This question might be asked repeatedly but allow me to ask again. It's been a good while I seriously played D2 and I want to replay it. I will just play single player by myself, I enjoy D2 like that the most. What is the best bigger resolution and quality of life updates mod there is for Diablo 2?

>> No.7493956

>>7493937
For quality of life people just use PlugY, which recently got an update to support 1.14d. Unsure on the resolution changes since IIRC that causes issues with the game. The AI is only designed to work within the usual resolution area, so if you increase the resolution with no fixes you can range attack enemies from what would have been 'offscreen' and they wont do anything. There's probably mods that fix that too though.

>> No.7493969

>>7493956
I see. I will use that then, thanks.

>> No.7494031
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7494031

Am I mad to have used pop socket quest reward for this?

>> No.7494037

>fresh into nightmare with dual wield voice of reasons
This shit is tyte don't @ me

>> No.7494040

>>7494031
save larzuk's socket quest for the right items, unique items specifically, don't waste it on trash items, if you wanted to socket that item that bad you could have done it with the horadric cube

>> No.7494049

>>7494040
Didn't know you could socket uniques. Whoops.

>> No.7494063

>>7494031
That's actually a very good weapon for early game but yeah, you could have used Horadric Cube for this.

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7494076

Just killed NM baal logged in to hell and got this. What does this mean?

>> No.7494108

>>7494076
That's a battle net quest simulated by PlugY. At random time a massage saying "Evil Walks the Earth" will appear and you are in for a treat.

>> No.7494185

>>7494040
>>7494063
no you can't add sockets to existing magic weapons in the cube without rerolling the base item, which would defeat the purpose.
the best you can do is horde gems and scepter bases and hope to roll something good.

>> No.7494195

>>7494040
Not him but I too didn't realize that quest allowed you to punch holes in uniques. I figured it was the same limitations as the holepunch cube recipe. So thats something I've learned today.

>> No.7494204

>>7494195
you can socket set items as well.

>> No.7494240

The socket quest can socket rares, uniques, sets, magic, white and crafted items. provided they're not already socketed, of course, or can't have sockets to begin with.
Magic items can never roll more than 2 sockets from Larzuk, but can sometimes roll only 1.
Uniques, rares, sets, and crafted items will only ever get 1 socket from Larzuk.
White items will always get the maximum number of sockets that the item base allows, but is constrained by the maximum number sockets allowed by the level of the item.
For instance, a crystal sword is capable of having 6 sockets, but 6 socket crystal swords can't spawn in normal, so socketing a crystal sword that you found in act 2 of normal will be constrained by its own level and will not get 6, or even 4, sockets from Larzuk. However, a crystal sword found in the secret cow level on normal will always get 4 sockets from Larzuk, since it is being dropped at a higher level, so if you're aiming to socket a white base to make a runeword, Spirit, for instance, always make sure that the item you're socketing came from an area with the appropriate number of maximum sockets.

>> No.7494321

>>7494240
>Magic items can never roll more than 2 sockets from Larzuk
If you don't consider time traveling to be cheating, then you can also make characters in 1.07, farm some good magics and 4-socket them, then transfer a character with them to a newer version. A 4os Godly Archon Plate of the Whale would be funny.

>> No.7494408

charsi is such a good girl, lass just gave me a 40ms and 40fr boots

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>>7494408

>> No.7494660

How would you use a Jah rune if you already had Enigma?
Which characters and builds need Faith, either equipped or on merc?

>> No.7494691

>>7494660
Its my goto on act 1 merc for a physical strafe bowzon.

Windforce, laying of hands, ravenfrost, rare ring, highlords, gface, fortitude, gore rider, belt of your choice.

Windforce is super rare, so upped goldstrike, witchwild string or buriza are good substitutes.

>> No.7494695

>>7494660
Last Wish

>> No.7494701

>>7494660
you could do faith, fury, dream, famine another enigma or start building toward last wish. a few others choices as well.

>> No.7494706

any of you lads using the multires mod with 1.13d?

>> No.7494727

>>7494691
>>7494695
>>7494701
The thing, thanks to this d2newfriend I'm feeding my pro D2 knowledge I too dusted off my HS pala and I'm really thinking about making the dual dream HS build. I can make one dream right now and I'm thinking whether to go for it. It's kind of a specialized piece of equipment so I might regret it later because Jah runes don't drop every day.
Originally I wanted to make a Faith bow but I'm thinking whether I really need it. I'm not really interested in physical bowzons but Faith is a rare aura equipment that could be used by more characters, I guess.
Well I don't have the second Jah yet so I guess it's kind of not urgent BUT M-MUH DILEMMA.

>> No.7494757

>>7494660
the only character that would use faith is a physical damage bowazon or very high geared summoner that uses revives.

Since physical damaging bowzons have burzia and windforce as options using a jah for a weapon is unusual and doesn't really provide much more benefit than those other two options unless you are multiplayering.

A revive summoner uses a mass of Urdar type enemies who have crushing blow to rapidly and safely kill diablo and baal. With lots of gear to burn you can switch from a might merc to a rogue for the fanaticism as the might aura won't help as much and frees up the necros main hand for mf or whatever he wants. This is incredibly niche though and something that is more of an option for a hardcore character who wants absolute safety for farming.

>> No.7494767

>>7494757
Even then I'd argue beast rw on hand with might merc + whatever his weapon is, would be able to match that for a necro.

>> No.7494772

I'm no expert at D2 but I've played a bit of it over the years, but never beat hell (furthest I've gotten is a recent necro up to the start of Hell then stopped playing for a while). I have the urge to play a Druid character. What builds are good for that class that don't rely on hard to find shit? I'm thinking either an elemental druid of some sort or a shapeshifter, but no idea what builds for that are viable. Only things I remember people talking about are wind skills for elemental, and rabies for shapeshifter.

>> No.7494780

>>7494757
Isn't it better to just equip the necrobro with a Beast?
I'm sure there are more characters that could use Fanaticism aura. HS zealot wants it too, actually, if he wants to use armor that's not Treachery. Even the dual Dream zealot wants Fanaticism aura, either his own or from merc.

>> No.7494791

>>7494772
Ele druid is a good choice. Absolutely rapes normal mode with fissure.

>> No.7494925

what is the best holy shock zealadin build for crap gear skill point allocation wise? also in what order should I put points when leveling?

>> No.7494927

>>7494772
fire claws and wind druid are both the easiest and strongest characters you can build and both still do what they are supposed to without extreme gear, fire claws having assloads of life and also doing a ton of fire damage and windy can do whatever he wants in hell with only having to worry about random bosses that are immune to both cold and physical

Rabies is only useful in a few areas as poison immunes are everywhere in hell

>> No.7494948

>>7494927
>>7494791
Ah thanks for the advice. I'll probably roll an ele druid in that case. I take it from what you all say, I use fissure in normal then respec to wind stuff? Or does it matter? Guess I'll just look up a build guide.

>> No.7495000

>>7494925
Its not that complicated in terms of build order. Put some points into Zeal to get to five hits, save up a a point so you can get Holy Shield and Holy Shock once you reach level 24. Then just dump everything into Holy Shock. You'll do some quests that'll give you skill points and you just put those into Holy Shield to max out the block rate.

>> No.7495043

what char should I roll for my next plugy run?
No paly/sorc.

>> No.7495048

>>7495000
thanks man. should I holy freeze immunities in hell?

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>>7495043

>> No.7495059

>>7495048
yes, or just run away. I think lightning immunity is the least common in hell and lightning enchanted champions are generally regarded as fuckno situation even in normal.

>> No.7495106

>>7495043
b o w z o n

>> No.7495115

>>7495059
Light is generally the hardest to break, I think.

>> No.7495167

>>7495115
that's actually cold immunes, almost all of them are impossible to break and lightning is the easiest with just infinity being enough to make them damageable but you do need additional sources of -lightning resist from something like griffon's eye or multiple rainbow facets to have acceptable damage.

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>this is a level 58 character with reasonable equip
This game dude

>> No.7495319

>>7494757
>>7494780
Faith would probably be fairly useful on a merc for a Holy Shock paladin, since you're never using Fanaticism unless you yourself are using a Beast, which is unlikely, though I guess you'd really want an Infinity merc over Faith.
Most any barb could also benefit, though again he could simply use Beast in one hand.
Might be the most useful on a shapeshift druid to combat the attack speed breakpoint issue.
or you could try to make Faith merc + Poison Dagger necro

>> No.7495327

>>7494772
>>7494791
yup fire druid through normal with a Leaf staff is GG. and if you can find a good pelt with +fire storm or fissure, you're really gonna be sailing.
When fire starts to fall off halfway through NM, you can respec into wind druid and continue the slaughter.

>> No.7495331

>>7495043
Spear barb

>> No.7495337

>>7495327
Sounds good, thanks.

>> No.7495343

So it seems that Nvidia tool can't record Diablo 2 if using Sven's wrapper

>> No.7495765

>>7495297
What are your equips right now? I'm doing a HC zealot and I'm on nightmare now, progressing pretty comfortably but I'm using holy freeze not shock so I'm probably focusing on slightly different things. It also feels safer but probably slower to kill.
Still rocking stealth, lore, and a rare pala shield from normal with +1 to skills and some res. Haven't found much uniques worth a crap.

>> No.7495779

I want to start a Kicker Assassin but I don't have a Stormlash and no base for Rift because I never paid attention to scepters.

>> No.7495780

>>7495765
You made the right choice. Holy Freeze is incredible for HC.

Surprised you didn't go for ancients pledge. Or rhyme, for that matter. 25 all res, lots of block and cannot be frozen are amazing stats for HC.

>> No.7495790

>>7495780
I'm thinking about Rhyme for sure but I'm hoping I can nab cannot be frozen from something else since I like this pala shield I have right now. Probably best to grab it before I get frozen in a situation I can't get out of.
Come hell I'll probably need a big buff to res so I might trade stealth for smoke.
And my wep right now is black, don't think there's a better option aside from a lucky unique. Runewords are carrying me hard.

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>> No.7495875

>>7495867
Fucking hell. I'm tempted to call that out for hero editing, but I recently found a 40/15, so what do I know? Sweet ammy, anon.

>> No.7495884

>>7495875
I would like it more if it has FCR.

>> No.7495886

I know the melee Assassin is not great, but is it not a total drag to level and play through nightmare? Never played an assasin before and I like melee characters more normally. I'd be on PD2, maybe they gave it a boost. The martial arts seem cool. Dual claws obviously because it looks cool.

Also, does a throwadin work at all? Figured elemental auras could make it cool. Too bad zeal or vengeance don't work with throws, it would be a sick build.

I found a Spire of Honor though so WW barb sounds cool. Also have Blood Tree Stump, but I assume lances work better due to the high range.

>> No.7495889

>>7495884
>FCR
Corpse explosion is for homos. Real men run pure summons lazy mode.

>> No.7495891

>>7495889
Sounds boring af.

>> No.7495903

>>7495891
If I wanted to cast shit I'd play a metafaggot sorc. I run the necro for maximum possible afk.

>>7495886
Not great does not mean unusable. You could pull off a hell capable melee ass with enough effort. NM shouldn't be very difficult.

>throwadin
One guy I used to know swore by it, but I've never tried it personally. Throw barb can be hell viable, so I'm sure you could pull something off.

>> No.7495934

>>7495903
>implying summonmancer isn't meta
lmao

>> No.7495942

>>7495934
The only reason he's meta is CE. Did you not read my posts?

>> No.7495950

>>7495942
Yeah it's totally not because he can have CB minions or because he can turn runewords into a minion, try druid if you want to be a hipster summoner dude.

>> No.7495952

>>7495903
Is it fun though?

Having to use a martial art every three hits seems like it could be a pain. Because most of the martial arts don't do anything except create chargers for a finisher, right?

>> No.7495958

>>7495950
>Yeah it's totally not because he can have CB minions or because he can turn runewords into a minion
Yes.

>>7495952
Fun is subjective, anon. Why not try it and let us know if you enjoy it?

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>>7495950
>implying necro would even be touched without corpse explosion
It's corpse explosion that makes him good. You can literally clear hell with a naked necro and a fucking merc with gear, just spamming corpse explosion and amp.

>> No.7495992

>>7494408
trade them back Gheed you fucking shylock I bet you fleeced her out of those for 2k you cheap rat bastard
that poor girl is just trying to make a living and arm her sisters and here you are always ripping her off and then selling shit for at least 10x what you bought it off charsi for

I swear one of these days they will wise up and hang you by your nose for all to see right outside the camp that fat body of yours will be a warning to all the other degenerates and hustlers who think they can fuck over the sisters

>> No.7496040

>>7495974
Skeletons and a full pack of revives will tear through enemies, albeit not quite so fast, with garbage gear.

>> No.7496269

>>7495992
>7494049
i'll fuck the sisters

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>> No.7496381

>>7495790
Im running Smoke and Spirit for a bunch of resist, and hit recovery but maybe I am overrating hit recovery and cannot be frozen does sound good if it works against any cold induced slow.

>> No.7496629

Playing Diablo 1 through for the first time. Going as a fighter.

Just hit hell and this is suffering.

>> No.7496634

>>7496629
Play the Hell 2 mod.

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?

>> No.7496653

>>7496646
lmao I sure hope you can kill him

>> No.7496662

>>7496653
im level 74 and i doubt that i can even damage him

>> No.7496668

>>7496653
>>7496662
yeah so i tried and i can damage him but he heals it back up so i guess this'll be a save and quit restart

>> No.7496675

>>7496668
>yeah so i tried and i can damage him but he heals it back up so i guess this'll be a save and quit restart
Don't worry anon, you'll see him again

>> No.7496687

>>7496675
I think crushing blow can deal with that but my merc died

>> No.7496758

>>7496687
Prevent monster heal works, it turns his regen off.

>> No.7496791

Is anyone else using openal .dll's here? Any clue as to why the game crashes upon exit?

>> No.7496820

>>7496646
You've met the surprise, congrats. Have something with crushing blow and a bit of poison damage or prevent monster heal. He is not that strong. He drops cool things.

>> No.7496869

>>7496758
noted. thanks.
>>7496820
I tried but my merc is my source of crushing blow and he kills him so i just restarted.
>he's not that strong
Yeah I thought I was gonna be wiped, but then my resistances were a bit high outside of cold.

>> No.7496873

>>7496791
I'm using it with anon's suggested settings and I never crashed. I'm playing on windowed

>> No.7496874

>>7496873
seconded

>> No.7496942

>>7495043
trapsin

>> No.7496953

>>7495765
Crescent Moon, Treachery, Herald of Zakarum, G-face, Goreriders, Raven Frost, one Bul-Kathos ring and Cat's Eye amulet. I think I have +2 skills from two skillers but I don't even have maxed Resist Lightning and no points in Salvation. Even without those few +skills I would shred through everything.

>> No.7497165

is there any point in keeping gems?

>> No.7497176

>>7497165
They are used for some recipes and combining medium/high runes, but generally you don't need many.
Diamonds give all res in shields and topaz give magic find in armor, I find those to be the only ones I use in sockets past early game.

>> No.7497179

>>7496953
>twinks out at level 58
>WOAH IM SO POWERFUL
neck yourself desu

>> No.7497180

>>7497176
right so i guess I just keep chipped ones and perfect ones?

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It's over. Zealed a lightning enchanted elite.

Try another one or nah?

>> No.7497193

>>7497179
>twinking with exceptional items
>unfinished build
>that outcome
Anon you need to learn how to read, after you neck yourself.

>> No.7497194

>>7497187
F. Do it again and get more res. If you're not 85% light, farm til you are.

I assume you died in hell? If so, I'd suggest leveling til at least 80 before really pushing deep into hell.

>> No.7497198

>>7497194
What do I play now? Thinken sorc.

>> No.7497203

>>7497198
HC? Pretty awful for sorcs, but a good challenge.

Could try a werewolf druid. Similar to zeal pally, but different enough to feel like you're not just repeating again.

>> No.7497229

>>7497198
Do bowzon or conc barb

>> No.7497243

I am happy to report that I have decided to roll a WW barb for my next plugy character.

>> No.7497250

>>7497243
aiming for any weapon type in particular or just whatever you find?

>> No.7497261

>>7497250
Since it's PlugY I can shamelessly respec when I find new weapons; currently in early A2 normal with a shadowfang I found on my sorc, and a spear put away that seems pretty good

>> No.7497310
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>Enigma
>Spirit monarch
>CTA
>shako
>Reaper's Toll
>gface

>> No.7497326

>>7497310
>listing Reaper's Toll with that other cancerous shit
>leaving off Infinity
>leaving off Grief
>leaving off Fortitude
>leaving off Phoenix
>leaving off White
>leaving off Stealth
>leaving off CoA
>leaving off Exile
>leaving off HOTO
>leaving off Treachery
Fool.

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>>7497310
>sorc
>necro

>>7497326
>reapers toll not cancerous
reapers toll is absurdly strong and overused

>> No.7497390

>>7497331
>ubers?
Fuck no, that overrides Life Tap.
>elemental damage?
Fuck no, you want Infinity.
>necromancers?
Fuck no, you don't want your tard-wrangled merc overriding your better curses.
>druidmancers/meleers/physical bowyers/all assassins (because of death sentry)
Fuck no, you'd prefer Amplify Damage being applied to the entire screen. Mass up enemies, pull out Brand, take a hit and wipe the entire screen.

Reaper's Toll is, at best, the lazy, poorfag's option. And even still, I'd prefer Obedience to it in a lot of scenarios, which is extremely easy to acquire.

>> No.7497402

>>7497390
>completely ignoring the slow aspect
Typical brainlet.

>> No.7497419

>>7497402
It's not bad, but it's not anywhere near as good as the broken runewords. I can absolutely see why people use it, even if it is somewhat subpar. It has a cute little niche, it's fun to use and slow stuff sure, but to call it cancerous and put it on the same tier as overwhelming BiS shit like gface and Enigma and Spirit is absurdity.

>> No.7497425

>>7497419
>gface
Actually, that one I'll take a stand over. There's plenty of competing helms for the slot.

>> No.7497617

>>7495337
Also a point in carrion vine and some tir runes and triumphant rings can save you from having to drink potions all the time so you can sleep your way through the game.

>>7495886
You have to play a martial arts sin to understand how much they suck, looking at the skills won't tell you how terrible they are to actually use. I'd strongly suggest you make one with hero editor and try it out before you commit the time to actually leveling one.

>>7496381
Zeal is uninterruptible, so FHR is less vital than you probably think, especially if you also have max block/10k defence. Same deal with WW and frenzy, only gingers in fursuits should really worry about this.

>>7497165
You use perfect gems to reroll grand charms until you get one with +1 skills.

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3spooky5me

>> No.7497639

>>7497617
>You use perfect gems to reroll grand charms until you get one with +1 skills.
I see. So that's possible too, thanks. I'm also thinking of stacking amulets and rings now and cube them, since I have no more money to gamble.

>> No.7497662

I really hope D2R fixes masteries being so specific but it sounds like it won't. Having to horde respects just to use items is a pain and adds nothing to the game when every other class can respec too, but would never have to do it to use a given weapon.

Just compressing would work or they could throw in some other masteries. A % damage reduction would be nice as an alternative or addition to iron skin. An increased attack speed that works with WW would help make a lot more weapons and elite uniques.more viable. It's a trade off of several hard points, but now high ED slow weapons can get up to speed.

Number one thing I want to see is Druid getting fury interruptible and more summons out at once though.

>> No.7497667

>>7497662
>fix
That word doesn't mean what you typed it to mean.

>> No.7497697

Is Blizzard sorc the fastest/easiest for gearing up with essentially nothing? I jumped back in and made a fishymancer, but nightmare is giving me some trouble. 1.14d vanilla bnet ladder. Thinking of shelving him for the time being, anyone mind weighing in?

>>7497617
>You use perfect gems to reroll grand charms until you get one with +1 skills.
Oh man, I've wasted so many charms... I don't suppose you have a video or guide for common "gotchas" like this you could share?

>> No.7497860

>>7497697
>fishymancer
>hard time
>>>NM
Everyone is going to shit on you for this. But for real, what's giving you trouble? Mind sharing your build/items? People may overstate it, but fishymancer really is one of the easiest and least gear dependent choices.
Other than that yeah I agree blizz sorc is probably the fastest for 0 to meph farming, which is a fast reliable way to generate wealth. I'd say meteorb is easier for first time hell clearing though. For me it's either meteorb or fishymancer for fresh bnet accounts. us west ladder?

>> No.7497864

>>7497697
>Is Blizzard sorc the fastest/easiest for gearing up with essentially nothing
yes.
>stealth or topaz armor
>ancients' pledge or Milabrega's shield for that sweet 20 mf
>spirit sword
>lore or topaz helm
>mf boots and gloves from merchants
>whatever rings and ammy with FCR or MF you can find
you're basically set to farm nm for goodies

>> No.7497908

Am I ever supposed to let go of right click when playing frenzy barb? What I mean is, is there ever a point to going back to double swing (perhaps when enough frenzy charge has been built up?) or do I just always use frenzy?

>> No.7497936

>>7497697
Yes.

>> No.7497957

>>7497908
I always have frenzy, doubleswing and berserk hotkeyed to left click/attack slots and switch between them as necessary. build up frenzy charge so I can just hotkey right into doubleswing or berserk without missing a beat or ever having to take my finger off the mouse while attacking.
right mouse/spell is for warcries and occasionally whirlwind.

>> No.7497993

>>7497697
>fishymancer, but nightmare is giving me some trouble
That's like a fissure druid saying act 1 normal is too difficult.

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>>7497860
East, just started a few days ago. Pretty standard so far I think, maxed raise skely + skeleton mastery, one point in resist, one point in bread and butter curses, and just my last level I was finally able to put a single point into CE.
Using might merc with 6% lifesteal weapon.

My main issues right now is stuff doesn't really feel like it's going down fast enough. I'm putting out Amp when I can, and decrep for dangerous packs, but it still takes my skeletons quite awhile to mow through packs, and any time there's a rezzer like shamans, it makes the fight into a slog(that I'm in act 2 right now full of narrow hallways exacerbates fight lengths). But the real issue is getting the ball rolling summoning my army. It was no problem on normal, but unless I get my follower substantially better gear, then it's going to just get worse as the game gets harder. At the moment without his skeleton crew, he can barely hold his own against one or two small mobs, let alone a pack.

>> No.7498185

>>7498093
-Even a level 1 CE considerably speeds up the killing once the first enemy in a pack dies, use it a lot.
-Shop a staff with teleport charges from Ormus in Normal, it'll make dealing with cramped places like the arcane sanctuary a lot easier
-Get a proper big stick for the merc, the javelin-type weapons generally have pretty bad melee damage, even some polearm or pike from a shop will do. If the merc is really weak get the ball rolling by killing some fallen shitters right outside the rogue encampment.

That should mostly cover the stuff you're having trouble with. Summoners are on the slower side when it comes to killing, but when your CE gets to higher levels it starts blowing up large parts of the screen and cleans up packs a lot faster when your army gets the first kill and starts the chain reaction.

>> No.7498186

>>7498093
Replace your helm with a Lore or anything with +skills. Get a better wand, yours is crap e.g. White runeword in a +3 raise skeleton wand. That offhand is nice for resistance, but getting something with like +2 skeletons would be better. You barely ever take damage as the necro anyway.

Doing these would give you at least 60% more skeleton damage.

>But the real issue is getting the ball rolling summoning my army
Go to earlier act 1, just kill fallen or zombies, then waypoint back to wherever you were. Brainlessly simple.

What aura merc are you using? Is most of his damage poison? If so get him a runeword weapon of some sort.

Get a teleport charges staff for minion control.

Are you using clay golem?

>> No.7498214

>>7498093
shamans and other raisers shouldn't give you any more trouble now that you have CE, but you could also always have just summoned new skeletons from the fallen corpses to prevent enemy raising.
you also might consider making a Strength for your mercenary for the crushing blow, or Malice for the -25 target defense and -100 defense per hit, stacked with amplify damage that might make a difference to your other minions.
and of course as was already mentioned, teleport staff is a must.

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>looking up some random mods
>some Russian mod has a "gem magnet"
>you have to feed it pgems to upgrade it
>the final upgrade at 2500 gems is +1 to a random character's skills
This is the most blasphemous shit I've ever seen in a mod.

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>>7498223
>2500
250 would be enough of a pain.

>> No.7498281

>>7498185
>>7498186
Nightmare a2 might merc
>>7498214
At this point, only on bosses to tank a hit or two. He doesn't even do enough damage to reliably help farm out skeletons and usually just gets in the way of the army.

Thank you everyone! Love the teleport wand idea. I knew of enigma, but was tunneling on it and never thought of alternatives.

I'll work on upgrading my weapons and focusing more on +skills and give this another shot. Haven't really used CE much since getting it outside of a bit of testing. It felt like it chews through my mana relatively quickly, is there anything that would return mana on damage dealt or anything? Or do I just need to chug pots harder? That was kind of my issue before, I could summon about 4-5 skeletons before I needed to drink a pot, and it was a battle of trying to maximize casts without wasting mana, versus multiple Returned spamming rezzes as fast as they can, never leaving many corpses at once.

Also, I don't mind having to return to act 1 to get skeletons if I must, but at the moment I'm honestly not sure what would be optimal farming for my necro(what I should be running and how early), as I pretty much just rolled him because having a bone army sounded cool and fun. If I do make it to hell, can necros farm ubers? I've read while sorcs are good farmers, they have trouble with ubers, but paladins can handle them. I'm kind of torn between optimal farming vs. a "complete" experience.

>> No.7498325

>>7498281
Just saw the lore helm, that's the ticket! Do things like this and with flat and percent returns(if that's a thing) work the same way? And does it extend to CE and minions?

>> No.7498327

>>7498281
>It felt like it chews through my mana relatively quickly, is there anything that would return mana on damage dealt or anything?
Don't be afraid to sink a few more points into energy, but yes spamming CE is mana intensive. Drink up. Also keep an eye out for mana after kill, like on the Lore runeword I mentioned. Leech doesn't work with CE, but that does.

>but at the moment I'm honestly not sure what would be optimal farming for my necro(what I should be running and how early)
not act 2, that's for sure. If you can push through, getting to mephisto can really help, as he drops some of the best early items you can get. Hell, if you're really struggling, go back and farm act 5 normal for a bit.

>If I do make it to hell, can necros farm ubers?
Yes. Will take a bit of gear and smart play, but yeah they can do it.

>> No.7498379

>>7498281
>It felt like it chews through my mana relatively quickly, is there anything that would return mana on damage dealt or anything?
Just stick Insight on your act 2 merc. You will not have mana problems ever again.

>> No.7498387

>>7498327
>Leech doesn't work with CE, but that does.
Good to know.
I have the runes for a lore already, going to try and grab that first and then some weapons and give this another go. Thank you again for the guidance.

>> No.7498435

good lord is there any enemy in the kurast jungle who isn't lightning immune for fuck's sake, my amazon is struggling

>> No.7498601

>>7498435
the silver lining is that the enemies in A3, especially the soul killers, tend to come in large, though tight-knit, groups as they swarm around you, so it makes catching loads of them at a time with a single cast from your lower resist wand fairly easy.
...you do have a lower resist wand, don't you?

>> No.7498720

>>7498601
>you do have a lower resist wand, don't you?
I...do but I'm afraid to get stunlocked by the thorns and stupid flayers.

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Hello frens, the remake reminded me to reinstall so here I am. Would anyone like to join up for a fresh start on us east? Im down for a comfy grind, but I wont turn down a rush either (especially for act 2). Last time I played was 10 years ago so I don’t remember much and am trying to relearn everything.

>> No.7498774

>>7498720
you can hide behind a valkyrie or just a decoy if you don't want the headache of having the evade skills.

>> No.7498867

>>7498743
Chad, come to us west
t. virgin

>> No.7498876

>>7498867
Does it matter? Not like a few hundred ms ping matters for this kind of game

>> No.7498883

hello ww barb here, still not 30 yet, still fucking hating playing barb

>> No.7499014

New?

>> No.7499036

>>7499014
wait til page 10. /vr/ threads take ages to die

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>>7499036

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>>7499043

>> No.7499084

>>7497697
Here a list of cube recepies,
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml

Here is the section on crafting, basically rolling unique items with some garantueed stats.
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/crafteditems.shtml

Both good sections to go through to find way to use trash.

>> No.7499105

>>7490336
The bonus for magic finding caps at players 7, players 5 for Diablo and players 3 for Baal.
Some people even micro manage and for example. Do the Baal Waves on player 7 and fight Baal at player 3.
Good luck

>> No.7499324

Although it's slow and shitty, it does feel a lot more cinematic to grind out the early barbarian levels. Are they actually good in later difficulties?

>> No.7499349

>>7499324
Yeah they're quite good, but take a lot of gear.

>> No.7499354

>>7499324
Barbarians are kino as long as your weapon(s) are good enough for the point of the game where you're at, but that's easier said than done without already having that gear ready to go.

>> No.7499356

>>7499324
Speaking as someone who just finished leveling a barb to 85 yesterday, it becomes infinitely more tolerable once you hit level 30+ and unlock whirlwind/frenzy, but past mid-nightmare you really do need decent weapons to do damage and deal with phys immunes.

>> No.7499401

Just beat Mephisto on nightmare on my HC zealot. Mephisto was a pushover, but man the Durance of Hate was a pain in the ass. Took me forever to get through the 2nd level, and there were so many of the exploding fetish type guys. Very tense the whole way through.
I also got a Sureshrill Frost drop. Seems interesting since I'm using holy frost and it would help stack cold damage, but doubt it would be better than black. I'll try it out.

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>and his gender... malleable.

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>>7499530

>> No.7499847

Is there a point to saving random rings and amulets?

>> No.7499914

Holy shit playing barb feels like such a slog

>> No.7499950

>>7499847
you can transmute 3 rings into a new amulet and 3 amulets into a new ring.
basically the only reason to keep ones you aren't gonna use unless you know it's from somewhere with a level relevant to something you're trying to craft.

>> No.7499967

>>7499950
can you transmute spare charms?

>> No.7499986

>>7499967
you can reroll charms with 3 perfect gems in the cube. but you can't turn 3 small charms into 1 large or 3 large into 1 grand. Imagine if you could!
if you decide to roll charms, always make sure the charm you're using came from an area with the appropriate level for what you're aiming for. I only reroll charms that drop directly from Hell Baal and occasionally Hell Diablo.

>> No.7500002

>>7499986
if you have teleport it's better to just farm LK chests at player 8, you'll be swimming in charms and get the occasional high rune as a bonus

>> No.7500096

>>7500002
>it's "better" to farm LK then roll baal GCs
lel maybe if you want bog-standard skillers and small charms. Though LK is a great place to farm for the flawless gems you will need to fuel your Baal GC rolling.