/vroom/: The Real Retro Racing Thread

[Anonymous No.7480295]

Welcome to The Garage, a thread where fans of racing vidya can discuss their favorite arcade, sim, kart, and any other kinds of racing games. If you’re looking for something new to play or are new to the genre ask other anons for recommendations and remember to gear up and have fun.

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>>7437143

Interested in a series to get started with?

https://pastebin.com/Vke5tf9e

Remember to bump, /vr/ has been faster as of late and threads get archived much quicker now. Don't be shy: ask questions, share experiences!

[Anonymous No.7480328]

This game with a slight overclock is really good.

[Anonymous No.7480446]

>>7480295
Picked up a dreamcast for 10 USD with licence copy of MSR inside. Shit is pretty fucking mood and ATMOSHPERE but also pretty challenging, kinda like NFS 5. It's a shame there's no port for PC tho.

[Devil Z No.7480718]

>>7480295
Thanks for the re-up brother!
>>7480446
MSR is actually a SEGA-owned IP. Don't think they'll ever touch it again.

[Anonymous No.7480821]

>>7480718
> Don't think they'll ever touch it again.
Well, maybe it's for best. I mean, without old crew there's no sense. But considering wave of ports back in the early 00s, they could at least port Metropolis to Windows like they did with Sega GT.

[Anonymous No.7480859]

>>7480446
I see that game dirt cheap all the time. I should really pick that up some time

[Anonymous No.7480875]

>>7480446
MSR is great, it’s basically Project Gotham Racing zero

[Anonymous No.7481304]

[Anonymous No.7481314]

Started playing ballistic ng recently and man I have to say this, the best wipeout game isn't even a wipeout game.
I played wipeout 2097, 64 and pure back when they were new and while pure is very cool and all I miss the aesthetic of the previous games, 64 plays amazingly well but the lack of championship/grand prix mode ruins it for me so yeah I know it's not technically /vr/ but I've been having a lot of fun mastering this one.

[Anonymous No.7481725]

/vr/os, I need help remembering a game. Theres not much to go off of because I was like, 7 or 8 , but I played a nascar game once on PC and Im trying to remember what it was. It had decent looking graphics, so it wasnt chonky and gross like from early mid 90's, maybe early 00's or turn of the millenium, and I think there was a loop the loop track in career mode, and I think I remember listening to 'Wont Get Fooled again' on bristol speedway

any ideas?

[Anonymous No.7482269]

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[Anonymous No.7482338]

>>7481725
Sounds like a NR2003 mod.

[Anonymous No.7482730]

>>7480875
for some reason, despite being a huge racingfag, i've never enjoyed msr or pgr

[Anonymous No.7482785]

>>7482730
Why? Just curious. To me it’s almost like a better ridge racer since you have to drive well and score points

[Anonymous No.7483312]

>>7481314
>Started playing ballistic ng
same, managed to plat everything on the first league but trying to evne get silver on the later ones is hard af

[Anonymous No.7483407]

>>7480295
Shit thread. Fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.7483442]

>>7483407
???

[Anonymous No.7483534]

>>7480718

Project Gotham is the exact same thing, by the same people, though also not available for PC. Why can't just emulate these? Aside from some outliers like Shenmue, most DC games run perfectly and you can always add post-processing to the image.

[Anonymous No.7483556]

>>7483534
>Why can't just emulate these?
After like 15 years shadows in MSR are still flickering.

[Anonymous No.7484043]

bump with rice

[Anonymous No.7484051]

The playstations crazy taxi

[Anonymous No.7484067]

>>7484051
Pretty OK game once you get past the tutorial
Fuck the last mission though

[Anonymous No.7484073]

I feel like I got really spoiled by modern games and can't enjoy older games without career mode anymore because they are too simplistic and I get bored quickly
On the other hand I don't enjoy many modern racing games either because they don't have satisfying progression, this is something that mid 00s need for speed games did really well although there still isn't much of a difficulty curve

[Anonymous No.7484174]

>>7484051
Really fucking stylish game, but some missions are pure CBT session.

[Anonymous No.7484182]

>>7484073
I'm the opposite I hate career modes and love time trial and single races.

[Anonymous No.7484206]

Whats the best racing game to play while extremely stoned?

[Anonymous No.7484512]

>>7484206
A modern online only racing game is up your alley

[Anonymous No.7484705]

>>7484206
Trackmania.

[Anonymous No.7484721]

>>7482730
PGR is basically simcade perfection. PGR4 has weather, bikes, and cars all at the same time.

[Anonymous No.7484750]

>>7484721
Ah, PGR. Back when simcades had a fucking soundtrack instead of complete silence.

[Anonymous No.7484886]

>>7484206
type 4 baybee

[Anonymous No.7485078]

>>7484206
Outrun.

[Anonymous No.7485215]

>>7484043
What game?

[Anonymous No.7485218]

>>7485215
are you serious

[Anonymous No.7485220]

>>7484206
diddy kong racing

[Anonymous No.7485841]

>>7484206
Solo run in NFS PU. Especially on Corsica track.

[Anonymous No.7485850]

Is there a game like this in English? I just found out this existed but I ain’t learnin moonspeak.

[Anonymous No.7486213]

>>7485850
Closest is final lap twin and it sucks

[Anonymous No.7486285]

>>7485215

Need for speed underground

[Anonymous No.7486327]

>>7484206
Outrun 2006: Coast 2 Coast

[Anonymous No.7486734]

>>7480295
Loved Midtown Madness 1/2

[Anonymous No.7486740]

>>7484206
Ridge Racer Type 4
Any Wipeout game that isn't Fusion
not retro, but Ridge Racer 2 on PSP

Weed is for niggers tho

[Anonymous No.7487641]

How the fuck didn't I know about this https://github.com/0x1F9F1/Open1560
Have any of you guys played MM1 with it?

[Anonymous No.7488310]

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[Anonymous No.7489256]

>>7481304
nice

[Anonymous No.7489513]

>>7484073
Play them in short bursts

[Anonymous No.7490584]

>>7485850
no and it's not good.

[Anonymous No.7490719]

>>7483312
The steam forums are filled with people complaining the time trials are too hard and they can't even get bronze. I'm so far removed from that (working on getting platinuming everything except zone because I cannot be fucked) reminds me how sharp the learning curve is in the game.

It is also humbling as there are players leagues better than me.

[Anonymous No.7490721]

>>7484174
Stuntman is even harder.

[Anonymous No.7490790]

>>7486734
Well bust your disc out and get playing anon.

[Anonymous No.7490791]

>>7490719
>reminds me how sharp the learning curve is in the game.
It is, but it's also very cool knowing everything depends on you not fucking up and optimizing your runs little by little.
I'm starting to get better times by not being over reliant on air brakes and adjusting the ship's incline after jumps and shit like that, managed to get plat on the first 3 leagues now

[Anonymous No.7490806]

Are there any good modern arcade/simcade style racers. Nfs heat was alright and i like forza horizon but besides those and fast rmx, all i see is garbage

[Anonymous No.7490812]

>>7490806
Wreckfest is good.

[Anonymous No.7490883]

Not as comfy as NFS porsche but getting damn close.

[Anonymous No.7490913]

>>7490790
>7680x4320

[Anonymous No.7490921]

>>7490883
HP2 was the peak of the series for me, I did enjoy every game from 3 to MW though. Last good game for me was HP2010 though I occasionally hear good things about heat. Is heat actually good?

[Anonymous No.7490969]

>>7490913
Do you not playing your old classics at 8k?

[Anonymous No.7491240]

>>7490921
It's the best Ghost Games title, I can tell that much.

[Anonymous No.7491270]

>>7490883
I actually like the aesthetic combined with this kind of err... "new age" graphics. Sure it's not as wild as PU but I still got that warm fuzzy feel from it.

[Anonymous No.7491292]

>>7491270
I like it too.

[Anonymous No.7491307]

>>7484043
kuru?

[Anonymous No.7491416]

>>7491292
I want games to look like this again.
I play The Crew 2 sometimes and it has that nice physics-based lighting that every 8th gen game has, but everything draws like 3 meters away from you and the TAA is so fucking smeary the game looks worse than PGR3 at 1080p.

[Anonymous No.7491434]

>>7491416
Games will never look that sharp again unless you 1) use ludicrous resolutions to brute force it or 2) full path tracing becomes viable. Modern engines are basically built around TAA for a variety of reasons and there is no real cost effective way to combat it even with smart sharpening.

[Anonymous No.7491438]

>>7491416
TAA is so gross. I'd rather have a few less lights bouncing around if it meant keeping proper antialiasing. It's only now kinda of being rectified by DLSS, but it's not quite the same level of image quality of a properly MSAA'd game from the generation before.

[Anonymous No.7491442]

>>7491438

[Anonymous No.7491680]

>>7490790
i would but i lost my copy a decade ago :(((((((((

[Anonymous No.7491694]

>>7491680
myabandonware exists

[Anonymous No.7492442]

>>7491434
That game was pretty shit on pc

[Anonymous No.7492947]

>>7492442
Not as good as the ps2 version does not make it shit.

[Anonymous No.7492994]

I once played a scifi racing game that was full 3D flight instead of grounded, at an arcade while waiting for a movie, but never had the time to give it another go before their arcade cycled games out and eventually stopped existing. I've been kinda thinking about it off and on ever since but I don't know the name of it - does this ring any bells for anyone here?

[Anonymous No.7493858]

>>7490883
Jesus why are the events in this game so long and tedious? In later NFS games most races were 5 minutes at most and in this game you got 4 lap races which take over 10 minutes, not to mention tournaments that can spawn up to 8 races and take almost an hour to beat.
It's even worse with cops who forced me to restart multiple times.

[Anonymous No.7493863]

>>7490883
>>7491292
The environments in EA Seattle HP2 looks really barren and lifeless compared to the Black Box version, thry have more detail put into them.

[Anonymous No.7493867]

>>7493858
I get the feeling they made a game excellently designed around single races and then had to pad a career/tournament mode into it

[Anonymous No.7493871]

>>7493863
That is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.7493874]

>>7493858
2bh after U2 this one feels like some sort of pacing masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.7493880]

>>7493858
Games of that era had lot of shameless padding
Underground 2 and MW also suffered from it
It's why I would enjoy original Underground more if it didn't repeat the same tracks over and over

[Anonymous No.7493902]

>>7493863
I think the difference is overstated.

[Anonymous No.7493914]

>>7492994
Can't be aerogauge since that was N64. But honestly I think I recall a namco arcade racer like that but I can't think of it.

[Anonymous No.7493986]

Speaking of HP2. What is the best version to play?

[Anonymous No.7494689]

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[Anonymous No.7494795]

>>7494689
I do wonder how many of those were built.

[Anonymous No.7494869]

>>7481304

Game?

[Anonymous No.7494879]

>>7494869
Trackmania United Forever with the Classic Complete Pack.

[Anonymous No.7494890]

>>7494795
AFAIK they only one fully functional prototype. Isdera went bankrupt before 112i went into production.

[Anonymous No.7494894]

>>7494890
>they only built one fully functional prototype
quick fix

[Anonymous No.7494936]

>>7494890
> Isdera went bankrupt
Well not according to both wikipedia and their website.

[Anonymous No.7495205]

>>7487641
Thanks, gonna look into it this weekend

[Anonymous No.7495216]

>>7493858
I really liked the ridiculously long races in Hot Pursuit 2. You would think 30-something events in a campaign is pathetically sort, but turns out each event is basically a boss battle where I walk out with battle scars. As much as I love UG1, it was really shit where an event could be over in 3 minutes tops so it feels like each event is cheap and you chew through a treadmill of events. HP2 really feels like it demands your full attention especially when you have cops dropping nukes on you.

[Anonymous No.7495220]

>>7495205
I played the game - and that mission in particular stands out - on a shitty windows ME prebuilt that would run the game at 15-20fps. I was limited to using a keyboard at the time and needless to say it took a very very long time to actually beat that mission and the rest of the game. I've kept my disc and have the game installed right now actually and playing it at a real framerate with a controller was everything I thought it could be.

[Anonymous No.7495229]

>>7495216
HP2 really is an evolution in style of TNFS. People forget the diablo and 512 races in TNFS were 8 fucking lap races on courses that would take 2-3 minutes to get around. The point to point races would be broken up into chunks 3-4 minutes long as well.

[Anonymous No.7495231]

>>7495220
Everytime I played MM2 this mission broke me so I think this recording for the first time I've ever beaten the game. Shame that the controller support for this game is actual dog shit, pretty sure I spent more time making my controller work than playing. The worst is the steering sensitivity tuning, by default your car would just flip itself everytime you tried turning.

[Anonymous No.7495237]

>>7495229
>The point to point races would be broken up into chunks 3-4 minutes long as well.
My favorite about that game. True point to point races going one direction rather than just a sequence of checkpoints around a city grid you already knew disguised as "sprint races". Truly felt like a one way ticket through exotic places.

[Anonymous No.7495259]

>>7495237
Gives me another excuse to post this.

[Anonymous No.7495291]

>>7495259
when you realize NFS has been glorious nippon since the very beginning in TNFS1, Overdrivin GTR and Overdrivin Skyline Memorial

[Anonymous No.7495321]

>>7495237
>True point to point races going one direction rather than just a sequence of checkpoints around a city grid you already knew disguised as "sprint races".
Not wanting to invade on this NFS discussion but Burnout 3 was good for that. It used parts of tracks you'd raced before, sure, but it added additional bits as well. The only one which didn't have a sprint was the Asia area IIRC

[Anonymous No.7495828]

>>7495321
I watch the CBX Reloaded git with bated breath as every commit gets us closer to the best version of Burnout 3.

[Anonymous No.7495848]

>>7495321
the fuck are you talking about? there is a asia sprint

[Anonymous No.7495878]

>>7480295

I just got into racing games recently. I've played a ton on the N64 and the Dreamcast, and there seems to be a great selection on both of them. What are your favorite consoles for racing games?

>>7483407
Sounds like SOMEONE never got their driver's license...

[Anonymous No.7496806]

>>7495848
But there wasn't though? Tropical Drive was a circuit.

[Anonymous No.7496896]

>>7481304
Best game in the series

[Anonymous No.7497151]

>>7495216
>30-something events
It's 60 considering there are 2 game modes plus some extra ones

[Anonymous No.7497153]

>>7495216
>As much as I love UG1, it was really shit where an event could be over in 3 minutes tops so it feels like each event is cheap and you chew through a treadmill of events
Until you get to that awful 6 lap race which took me countless tries to beat because I either crashed or the AI would overtake me in the last lap

[Anonymous No.7497228]

>>7497153
OK tranny.

[Anonymous No.7497249]

>>7496896
Honestly, yeah. The absolute bullshit in Original is good to, though.
> that one rally puzzle that only gives you tree blocks to work with

[Anonymous No.7497285]

>>7497153
Haven replayed the game recently i'm convinced the challenge of that race is down to most people playing the game on tiny screens in 2002 where UG's absurd contrast means everything is a blur and then suddenly ontop of you. Playing it at modern resolutions dramatically reduced the difficulty as you can actually fucking see what is happening and blocking the a.i is easier because of it.

[Anonymous No.7497813]

>>7495205
This level gave me so much trouble as a kid.

[Anonymous No.7497970]

>>7496896
>Best
fixed

[Anonymous No.7498009]

>>7481304
I recognize that paintjob from a n64 game

[Anonymous No.7498026]

>>7490719
the new colour palettes are soulless

[Anonymous No.7498037]

>>7498026
A lot of the old ones were obscene contrasty for no real purpose. I prefer the newer style.

This webm is from 2016.

[Anonymous No.7498054]

Apologies if this Is a repeat question but has anyone got Sam Francisco Rush on the PC working on W10? My God, I love that game

[Anonymous No.7498095]

>>7498037
That's an old one too, mine just has the new shitty lightning because it's from the map archive. I couldn't find a good pic. I'm sure the one I linked is the version with the vertical hairpin.
>>7498037 looks much better than >>7490719
I have the same problem with the neon nights tracks. Blinding.

[Anonymous No.7499592]

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