/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7456687]

how the fuck do you fuck up on the same flaw twice(small disks/carts) who engineers this shit

[Anonymous No.7456693]

>>7456687
>It has more storage, therefore it is better!

[Anonymous No.7456695]

>>7456687
a successful japanese toy company

[Anonymous No.7456701]

>>7456687
>carts
>flaw

[Anonymous No.7456705]

>>7456687
Insane that both systems were extremely popular and successful huh?

Get off this board shit poster.

[Anonymous No.7456712]

NES
>Can only get sprites and tiles from a tiny cartridge ROM, needs a mapper for 99% of effects
SNES
>CPU runs a mere 1/3rd the speed of competitors
N64
>Cartridges, far lower fillrate and highly latent RDRAM leads to lower average FPS
GC
>Tiny discs, still lower fillrate, struggles with lighting and particles
This myth that Nintendo hardware was ever good needs to die.

[Anonymous No.7456745]

>>7456712
This. Nintendo should've been the one to go 3rd party, not SEGA.

[Anonymous No.7456751]

>>7456693
yes. half of the ports are gimped not because of the hardware but because of the shitty size

[Anonymous No.7456760]

>>7456687
>>7456693
>>7456701
>>7456712
>>7456745
>>7456751
/v/ thread

[Anonymous No.7456769]

>>7456705
>Successful
the absolute cope both were flops fucking Xbox a completely new microsoft brick they shat out outsold that shit lmao
PS1 absolutely destroyed the n64

[Anonymous No.7456802]

>>7456745
Agreed, though if you want my opinion, they should have never been involved in the games industry in the first place.

[Anonymous No.7456808]

>>7456769
And yet, the n64 and GameCube are going to be remembered far longer than you after your death. Something to think about

[Anonymous No.7456820]

>>7456808
>tendie moving the goalposts

[Anonymous No.7456825]

>>7456687
The GCN had a superior disk drive to it's competitors, with a larger cache and read speeds. Games had virtually no load times.

[Anonymous No.7456832]

>>7456820
>/v/ baby has an extisential crisis

[Anonymous No.7456849]

>>7456808
your mom is going to remember my penis long after i kill you and feed her your body

[Anonymous No.7456864]

>>7456687

[Anonymous No.7456869]

>>7456832

[Anonymous No.7456878]

>>7456808
People who grew up on Nogames 64 and Shitcube will eventually die and take their shitty childhood memories of them with them. Your point?

[Anonymous No.7456879]

>>7456869

[Anonymous No.7456881]

>>7456687

Gamecube was a well designed system and a moderate success financially. It was simpler designed and more powerful than the PS2 or Dreamcast. The damage was mostly done by then with the N64 though. Third parties would rather work on the PS2 because it had a bigger install base than the smaller install base of a better designed system.

[Anonymous No.7456893]

>>7456869
>posts wojak
Boomers win

[Anonymous No.7456898]

>>7456893
you're not getting your retro board back EVER go to reddit if you want to discuss your pixelshit

[Anonymous No.7456901]

>>7456878
My point being, nintendo is going to live rent free in your head all your life, and you're going to continue to seethe and zoom.

[Anonymous No.7456902]

>>7456898
>zoom zoom
Sorry kiddo what was that? I don't speak baby tongue.

[Anonymous No.7456918]

>>7456901
Better to be seething and zooming than a degenerate Nintranny.

[Anonymous No.7456928]

>>7456918
cope

[Anonymous No.7456938]

>>7456687
>small discs/carts
It wasn't a flaw anon, it was used to prevent piracy back then, we didnt have modern flash carts back then and smaller disc were a niche you had to go looking because online shopping wasn't common place and all that's assuming you also chipped it.

[Anonymous No.7456958]

The transcube sucks I agree. N64 was cool though.

[Anonymous No.7456969]

>>7456712
>SNES
>CPU runs a mere 1/3rd the speed of competitors
and yet it is superior in every other aspect, segatard

also CPU speed does not determine how fun a game is

[Anonymous No.7456978]

>>7456687
Carts and mini discs are both based

[Anonymous No.7456983]

>>7456712
Nintendo hardware's always been great. The only major flaw it's ever had was the NES' cart slot, and that was fine if you were the rare kid who kept his carts clean

[Anonymous No.7456987]

>>7456701
>Expensive to produce, expensive on the market
>Very little space compared to CDs
Yes.

[Anonymous No.7456994]

>>7456958
They're both shit, N64 moreso

[Anonymous No.7457000]

>>7456687
N64 went cartridge mostly because their deal with sony fell through. Gamecube nobody knows why. Possibly for piracy reason but psx or ps2 didn't really have that issue.

[Anonymous No.7457003]

>>7456969
>and yet it is superior in every other aspect, segatard
And that's why the shit SNES constantly struggles with frequent slowdowns, poor physics, input lag, and commonly suffers from issues like slow-paced games with very little action and poor AI, right? All flaws that are not nearly so apparent on better 16-bit platforms, by the way. By all objective measures, the SNES CPU was simply too slow to even allow the console to be in the same league.

[Anonymous No.7457027]

>>7456987
>Expensive to produce, expensive on the market
And I care why?
>Very little space compared to CDs
Good; less room for cutscenes, licensed music and bad voice acting

[Anonymous No.7457029]

>>7456808
Stop embarrassing yourself dude
Nintendo only survided during 1995~2005 due their handhelds made for little zoomers to play
those zoomers doing those type of faces >>7456879 and talking about zelda,mario,pokemon and smash are nintendo's only legacy....

[Anonymous No.7457034]

>>7456983
Even my roughest carts work every time in my picky frontloader due to the magic of electrical contact cleaner.

[Anonymous No.7457040]

>>7457000
>but psx or ps2 didn't really have that issue.
jesus christ you're dumb

[Anonymous No.7457054]

>>7456994
Nah N64 was better. Nintendo, Konami and Rareware were still making good games then, though they lost their touch after 5th gen.

[Anonymous No.7457107]

>>7457027
>And I care why?
It was more of a problem back then, N64 owners were expected to pay upwards of $20+ more for their games, multiplats included
>Good; less room for cutscenes, licensed music and bad voice acting
Enjoy your worse texture quality, heavily compressed audio and midi music

[Anonymous No.7457127]

This “N64 sucks” meme that is so popular now is getting tiresome. Fuck whatever youtuber is responsible for this

[Anonymous No.7457129]

>>7456869
>>7456879
zoomers go home

[Anonymous No.7457136]

>>7457127
But it does suck

[Anonymous No.7457141]

>>7457107
Is the gameboy superman any good?

[Anonymous No.7458303]

>>7456687
N64 was fine aside from the controller.

Don't get why so many Playstation fans seethe over it.

I had and liked both consoles.

[Anonymous No.7458318]

>>7457136
Sucks less than the Lamecube at least.
>b-but muh Capcom games...
All those got ported to other systems anyway.

[Anonymous No.7458356]

>>7456687
What have you engineered lately, you parasitic autistic millennial?

[Anonymous No.7458409]

>>7457107
>Enjoy your worse texture quality, heavily compressed audio and midi music
It'll be tough, but I'll try to manage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFBUtNrw6xM

[Anonymous No.7458432]

>>7456712
>SNES
>>CPU runs a mere 1/3rd the speed of competitors

[Anonymous No.7458441]

>>7456745
>32X
>Sega CD
>Saturn
Nah, I'm glad Sega aren't making consoles anymore. They always fucked up somewhere and where too dumb to know how the fuck to cope.

[Anonymous No.7458532]

>>7457027
>>7457107
>>7456693
>>7456701
Throw away all cutscenes and compressed the hell out of everything (textures and audio) and a decent amount of games STILL wouldn't fit on it. The only reason Nintendo kept it's medium stance so hard was because of their butthurt with the Snes-CD deal with Playstation

[Anonymous No.7458548]

>>7456687
Go look up who made CD and DVD
Nintendo really had no choice in either case unless they wanted to look weak as a company

[Anonymous No.7458567]

Anyone else ever get tired of arguing about shit that doesn't matter?

[Anonymous No.7458598]

>>7458567
These people have been fighting console wars and letting nintendo live rent free in their skulls for actual decades at this point. Pretty obvious they have a few screws loose

[Anonymous No.7458606]

>>7458441
How are those any worse than
>Virtual Boy
>N64-DD
>Gamecube

[Anonymous No.7458615]

>>7458598
No, these console warriors weren't even alive when these machines were relevant. They're zoomers from /v/ who have been brainwashed so badly by modern corporate propaganda they even fight over consoles from before their time. Quite pathetic honestly.

[Anonymous No.7458619]

Nintendo is an arrogant company that has been riding on nostalgia for the last 30 years, they believe they don't have to compete in their chosen industry and they demonstrate this by selling underpowered, overpriced and gimmicky game consoles with first party games that would have been considered mediocre shit if they were a new original IP in 2018 and not the tail end of a 35 year old franchise.

They literally sell a cardboard controller kit for Nintendo switch that lets you "build your own fun" for the low low price of $80 - and their fans ate that shit up on release.

[Anonymous No.7458625]

>>7458606
Virtual Boy is a blunder and remembered as such, but Nintendo dropped it pretty fast and didn't sink as much time and money hyping it. 64DD was Japan only, so they at least didn't introduce that mistake to a global market. Gamecube may have been third place behind Microsoft, but people forget that for a good 2/3 years they did have that third party support, along with the first party classics like Melee and the Prime games. Comparatively Saturn basically "died" in 1997 so that when Dreamcast came out a couple years later in America, it felt like a revival for Sega.

[Anonymous No.7458628]

>>7456687
The little gamecube disks were cute.

[Anonymous No.7458634]

>/v/ thread

[Anonymous No.7458642]

>>7456881
>Third parties would rather work on the PS2 because it had a bigger install base than the smaller install base of a better designed system.

And Šöÿtendo was exceedingly hostile to third party developers

[Anonymous No.7458656]

>>7458642
>Šöÿtendo
>Jobs to the filter
KWAB

[Anonymous No.7458659]

>>7456769
Go look up sales, revenue and profit. Basic business terms that might enlighten you on how business works.

[Anonymous No.7458664]

>>7458642
>Šöÿtendo

[Anonymous No.7458676]

>>7458634
>>7458642

[Anonymous No.7458723]

>>7457127
All youtubers like n64. The reason people talk shit about it, is because, in retrospect, it doesn't stack up. Its got a few really great games, thats it. Everything else about is was not on par with the ps1 or even the saturn in a few instances. And the only thing n64 fanbois can say is
>No load times
Which is nice, but not as great as its advertised. The n64 is not a great console spec wise. Its got a shitty midi keyboard, muddy blured textures, a tiny library of worthwhile games and a controller (wether you love it or hate it) was discarded and cut into TWO peices to make the wiimote. More nintendo gimmick shit that gets defended by crybaby's children in their 30s. I like nintendo, i have a nes, sfm, wiiu and a wii, but i dont defend their shitty decisions... To add to that, nintendo can fuck right off for backstabbing sony. So much for honor among the samurai with nintendos jew business practices.

[Anonymous No.7458759]

>>7458656
>>7458664
>no arguments

>>7458676
where to cop?

[Anonymous No.7458783]

>>7458723
>no load times
Meanwhile modern snöys claim that lowered load times are the singular thing making the PS5 next gen as that console has nothing else to offer.

[Anonymous No.7458786]

>>7458783
>modern snöys

No one asked and no one cares about dogshit modern consoles /v/ermin, unless you want to talk about Switch having nogaems

[Anonymous No.7458826]

>>7458723
That's still 1,000s of hours of great games. You're an adult in 2020, how much time do you have for fifth gen games anyway?

It hurts a console far worse then it's released to be short of games than years later. Years later you're going to have a hard time justifying caring about and playing more than two dozen games per console.

[Anonymous No.7458836]

2021*

[Anonymous No.7458859]

>>7456701
>Cinemassacre
>Screenwave

[Anonymous No.7458878]

>>7456938
>tfw your anti-piracy workaround is also an anti-quality hindrance

Nintendo is the type of company that has always decided they know what gamers want more than gamers do. They're seldom right, but not never right.

[Anonymous No.7458908]

>>7458826
What if you’re not into mascot platformers? That takes away like 75% of N64’s “great” titles.

The PSX has a more expansive library allowing you to chose more great games that cater to your tastes. Sure Mario and Zelda are considered great, but I’m not interested in them.

[Anonymous No.7458913]

>>7458432
Source: madeupmonkeyshit.com

[Anonymous No.7459006]

>>7456712
How about that the Wii was essentially the gamecube ii

[Anonymous No.7459056]

>>7458409
That's a GameCube game, I'm talking about the N64

[Anonymous No.7459147]

>>7458723
>To add to that, nintendo can fuck right off for backstabbing sony

Backstabbing Sony? You mean the SNES CD that Sony wanted all publishing rights to?

[Anonymous No.7459217]

>muh fmvs
May I suggest a DVD player instead?

[Anonymous No.7459275]

>muh textures
>muh framerate
>muh effects
>muh voice acting
>muh FMVs
May I suggest purchasing a PS2 instead?

[Anonymous No.7459282]

>>7459275
everyone did

[Anonymous No.7459293]

>>7456898
Go back to /v/ where you can go on your 50+ threads talking about tall mommy vampire or whatever.

[Anonymous No.7459637]

The N64 and Gamecube were so good. I recognize their libraries are smaller and less diverse than the Playstations they went up against, but I was never disappointed in either. 3D platformers and arcade racers are 2 of my favorite genres, and the N64 delivered in spades with 0 load times and none of the interactive movie frills that you can have on any other platform if you prefer. It had a unique feel, and it's a console I wish I could have spent more time with growing up.

As for the Gamecube, I was skeptical at first. I didn't get it: it didn't have as many games as the PS2, didn't play DVDs like the PS2, and didn't play PS games like the PS2. Why bother? I ended up getting the Platinum bundle with the Gameboy Player for Christmas, but still ignored it for a while. Then, I picked up Pokemon Colosseum, then Zoids Battle Legends. I tried out the Gameboy Player. Before long I was hooked. Eventually, you could get the Gamecube brand new for $99. I believe it was underrated in its day, for sure. Some people who grew up with it overcorrect for that and somewhat overrate it nowadays, but it's another one I wish I'd been more open to from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.7459640]

>>7459637
>less diverse

Ok that does it, I’m a Nintenchad now

[Anonymous No.7459656]

>>7459637
>if there's nintendo written on it, my estrogen mantits go crazy

[Anonymous No.7459667]

>>7456687
Pretty simple once you understand the jap mindset. Japs have this concept that if they are making it, they know what's best. They expect you to take it as it is and enjoy it. They don't want you to modify it or try it another way.

They built it that way because Nintendo thinks they are the authorities of how games should be made and enjoyed.

It wasn't until later that they started to grasp the concept that the west doesn't take this well and if you make a piece of shit, people will either not give you games or give you the shit version of them.

Honestly, they still haven't learned completely but it seems they are a lot farther along. Unfortunately they will probably never learn unless they hit hard financial times and by then it will be far too late.

[Anonymous No.7459679]

>>7458567
Nincels refuse to accept reality so these arguments will go on forever

[Anonymous No.7459692]

>>7456687
The majority of space used on ps2 and xbox games was for music and fmw, gta could have easily fit on a gamecube disc with slightly compressed music. Gamecube only failed because it was precieved by the typical 22 year old gamer at the time as a "babby" console and ps2 as mature.

[Anonymous No.7459706]

>>7459275
Funny because PS2 games often had the worst graphics and framerates out of the sixth gen systems.

[Anonymous No.7459913]

>>7459706
I feel like the PS2 and dreamcast are more like 5.5 generation - still had some issues with framerates, still looked rather dodgy 3d. Even dreamcast was better than it sometimes. A bit like how the PS1 and Saturn could scarcely be called truly 5th gen.

[Anonymous No.7460121]

>>7456695
Best electronic toy in the world.

[Anonymous No.7460126]

>>7456745
>>7456918
>>7457003
>a complete fag in denial

[Anonymous No.7460129]

https://def-jam-wrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Def_Jam_Fight_For_NY

>There are features exclusive to PS2 and Xbox that are missing from the GameCube version. The player is restricted to having one voice for the main character - as opposed to the six found in other versions. Eight of the 28 available music tracks are missing. The Gamecube's hardware lacks the light blur effect that permeates on the characters and arenas. Furthermore, certain 3 or 4 player arenas have reduced crowds due to the minidisc space limitations.

I thought the Gamecube was at least more powerful than the PS2, but wow.

[Anonymous No.7460132]

>>7457054
I still upset that Konami ain’t making it game on the GameCube like Nemesis, Castlevania, Contra and any new ip.

[Anonymous No.7460135]

>>7459656
/v/tardy at coped n beyond

[Anonymous No.7460146]

>>7459913
I don't know why we even still have gens. What gen is the nintendo switch?

[Anonymous No.7460161]

>>7460146
8.5 gen. With PS4 Pro and Xbox One X.

[Anonymous No.7460216]

>>7460129
WOW! Thanks for informing me, friend!

[Anonymous No.7460256]

>>7460126
>>7460135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyufDxxWIsM

[Anonymous No.7460545]

>>7460216
>WOW! Thanks for informing me, friend!

[Anonymous No.7460687]

>>7460545
Meds now!

[Anonymous No.7460689]

>>7460545
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.7460690]

>>7460146
>>7460161
>0.5
Just like the TG-16, Dreamcast and Wii U?

[Anonymous No.7460696]

>>7460256
?

[Anonymous No.7460708]

>>7460689
>>7460687

[Anonymous No.7460734]

>>7458432
>SNES resolution
>512x448
That's PS2 resolution lmao

[Anonymous No.7460735]

>>7456687
Most games that didn't come to GC could have fit on a single mini disc, a lot of people ignore how small games even at the time were.
Nintendo should have just stuck with carts, I'm glad they are back, but not glad that they only do like 90MB/s, should be doing more than double that.

[Anonymous No.7460738]

>>7460129
Everytime this gets posted, mad tendies just refute with Criterion sucks at programming

[Anonymous No.7460753]

>>7456687
Which system has better shoot em ups, fighters and racing games? It's the Gamecube for all you N64 apologists out there.

[Anonymous No.7460765]

>>7460753
>shoot em ups
they were just all ports...
>fighters
all multiplats (besides melee, which isn't as good as smash 64) that are better on xbox
>and racing games
n64 has greater and more racers, though

[Anonymous No.7460836]

>>7456745
Sega absolutely deserved its fate.
Nintendo's mistakes were minor missteps which they corrected.
Sega's mistakes were colossal fuckups which they doubled down on.

[Anonymous No.7460838]

>>7460765
Thread is comparing N64 and GC. I preferred melee but they're not fighting games anyway.
>n64 has greater and more racers, though
N64 had the better Mario Kart....everything else is an upgrade on GC.

[Anonymous No.7460840]

>>7460734
Some of the background modes support interlacing to render at higher resolutions. So for consolewar shitposting purposes yes, the SNES is "512x448".

[Anonymous No.7460845]

>>7456705
>Insane that both systems were extremely popular and successful huh?
N64 failed to sell as many units as the SNES, and got completely BTFO by a newcomer.
GameCube sold even worse than the N64.
From a business perspective, both consoles were failures.
Nintendo only survived because they found a niche among retarded manchildren.

[Anonymous No.7460853]

>>7460840
Meanwhile in reality

[Anonymous No.7460859]

>>7460840
Yeah the same way PS1 is 640x480 or 512x480 interlaced, they really need to add some foot notes because it's just click bait.

[Anonymous No.7461208]

Sony ruined gaming

[Anonymous No.7461226]

>>7456881
Major reason people didnt buy the gamecube was because of no DVD player. Why do you think the Wii pushed the Wii channels crap like Youtube, Weather Channel, and i believe Netflix at one point? Because they got their asses kicked by Sony.

[Anonymous No.7461227]

>mfw I got a GCLoader and now my GC takes carts.

[Anonymous No.7461262]

>>7459692
Yeah, I never understood why "Gamecube is exclusively for children" became the common narrative. Sure it lacked GTA, but instead had shit like Killer7, REmake, RE4, Eternal Darkness, MGS Twin Snakes, and honest to God multiplat GTA clones like True Crime Streets of LA.

[Anonymous No.7461273]

>>7461262
It usually comes from the same people who love Spyro and Crash games.

[Anonymous No.7461318]

>>7461208
copetendo

[Anonymous No.7461319]

>>7460734
go back

[Anonymous No.7461331]

>>7461262
>Yeah, I never understood why "Gamecube is exclusively for children" became the common narrative
Because normal people lose interest in bing bing wahoo when their balls drop.

[Anonymous No.7461334]

>>7461331
But the games I listed are not bing bing wahoo

[Anonymous No.7461340]

>>7461318
Ooga Booga Sonygger

[Anonymous No.7461343]

>>7456687
In the Gamceube's case they could get by with just making more than one disc, it wouldn't have been viable for some bigger open-world games like Morrowind and GTA San Andreas though.

N64 was up shit creek without a paddle though, since multiple cartridges obviously wouldn't be an option.

[Anonymous No.7461347]

>>7461334
But bing bing wahoo is the first thing people associate with Nintendo.
When you consider just how pathetic the N64's library was (due in no small part to Nintendo's long history of treating 3rd party devs like shit), it was natural for people to assume that the Gamecube's library would be just as sparse.

[Anonymous No.7461352]

>>7461347
Implying that supposed bing bing wahoo is bad, silly little sonygger

[Anonymous No.7461362]

>>7461352
Actually, I'm a PC gamer.
As far as I'm concerned, all consoles are gay.
But Nintendo is by far the gayest.

[Anonymous No.7461364]

>>7458619
>they believe they don't have to compete in their chosen industry
they really dont. like not at all. Zelda Skyward Sword remake is already sold out on Amazon

[Anonymous No.7461393]

>>7461362
Ok Sonygger, go play the homosexual Last of Us

[Anonymous No.7461441]

>>7460738
Fanboys of any consoles are retarded, but Nintendo fanboys make up the vocal majority so they're the most outwardly annoying. Been that way since I started coming to /v/ in 2008. That dev was working for Nintendo at the time of writing that as well.

But yeah, GC struggled with lighting, shaders, physics, etc. And it couldn't match the processing power or flexibility of the PS2. But it was EASY to get games running on the GC, whereas the PS2 was hard to develop for.

[Anonymous No.7461449]

>>7461319
This is on equal footing as "SNES is 512x448". There are like what, 2 games that does 1080i on PS2 and they both run on the same engine and made by the same people. The horizontal resolution is a lot lower than 1920 as well but nobody here would care because this mode was created just for shitposting. 1080i looks terrible ingame.
t. own the game

[Anonymous No.7461541]

>>7457029
>let me tell you about my zoom zoom fantasies

[Anonymous No.7461543]

>>7461449
>1080i looks terrible ingame.
polyphony: "let's include a graphics feature to make the game looks horrible".
nice logic anon

[Anonymous No.7461552]

>>7461543
Looks really nice

[Anonymous No.7461564]

>>7456808
Based, look at all the seething /v/ zoomies in the replies.

[Anonymous No.7461569]

>>7461362
>i larp and zoom
Many such cases!

[Anonymous No.7461573]

>>7460545
Why are zoomers so obsessed with white female/black male couples?

[Anonymous No.7461589]

>>7458432
SNES cpu has something like 2 registers and a program counter, so if you want to do anything more complex than a+b you have to fetch data from the memory.
Megadrive cpu has 8 data and 8 address registers, you could do a matrix multiplication (ie. vector processing) on that in 1 cycle before touching the memory bus.

Thing is that reading from memory has extremely high latency compared to using registers, meaning you could do up to 8 times more math on the 68k in one memory call. That's what made the SNES cpu so slow.

[Anonymous No.7461617]

>>7461393
>>7461569
Keep coping and seething, poorfags.

[Anonymous No.7461676]

>>7459656
The Gamecube is the most recent Nintendo console I own, so I'm afraid you're wrong, bucko.

[Anonymous No.7461696]

>>7456687
carts were free ram for smart developers

[Anonymous No.7461879]

>>7461262
I was fortunate enough to have a Dreamcast and Xbox as gifts.


Gamecube still carrying on with a goofy ass controller and small discs seemed off to me.

Like "WTF you can't even play normal CDs with this?".

I was in my teens at the time OG Xbox came out.

From visiting peoples housses it seemed like only the younger kids had Gamecube.

Like my uncle had PS2 but his stepson had a Gamecube.

It seemed that even N64 was more universal age wise.

[Anonymous No.7462053]

I wanna know how some humongous games like Twilight Princess could fit on one disc. They had to have done some voodoo magic shit for that to be possible.

[Anonymous No.7462207]

>>7460753
>Shmups
Dreamcast
>Fighters
Dreamcast
>Racing games
PS2/Xbox

[Anonymous No.7462216]

>>7461262
>honest to God multiplat GTA clones like True Crime Streets of LA.
Nice so it has the 4th-best version of a multiplat

[Anonymous No.7462232]

>>7457107
>Enjoy your worse texture quality, heavily compressed audio and midi music

didn't hold back mario or zelda any. i'm not going to argue that limiting a developer's potential toolkit innately will result in better games but sometimes being limited in that sense is beneficial to the development process by forcing creators to maximize what's at their disposal rather than relying on high production values in lieu of substance. you sound like the type of fag that would be more at home with modern triple a dreck like tlou or uncharted if that kind of thing plays on your mind so much.

[Anonymous No.7462234]

>>7458606
Nintendo was still doing alright whereas Sega was sinking.

[Anonymous No.7462250]

>>7456869
i don't get it. is he charging up the makankosappo or getting ready to teleport?

[Anonymous No.7462254]

>>7456745
absolutely retarded sperg opinion, why is there such a heavy correlation between gamers and being dumber than shit?

[Anonymous No.7462257]

>>7461262
>became the common narrative
It wasn't a narrative, that was reality in the early 2000s. It couldn't play CDs and DVDs. That mattered because older kids like music and movies. And once I hit puberty I didn't give a fuck about playing Mario, Zelda etc. the same way I didn't watch spongebob squarepants anymore

[Anonymous No.7462274]

>>7457003
okay, but the snes has a multi ton tome listing hundreds of longstanding and beloved multi-generation enduring games that people still discuss fondly at length, play for leisure and to showcase new discoveries (glitches, tech, speedruns) and no weird tribal anti-snes rant any faggot on this board will ever go on will ever change any of that, so i suggest you stop shitting your diapers over nintendo and go play link to the past or mega man x or any other snes masterpiece to see why nothing you said matters.

[Anonymous No.7462289]

>>7456745
Sega is better off 3rd party. Now we can play all their great games on PC master race instead of having to buy a shitty console every 4 years.

[Anonymous No.7462569]

>>7462289
Sega's been completely dead for 17 years m8

[Anonymous No.7462787]

>>7462216
I never claimed it was an exclusive, or even the best version. Just that it wasn't a kids' game

[Anonymous No.7462847]

>>7456701
Get this fat parasitic pedophile kike scumbag the fuck off /vr/.
You are only allowed to post screencaps of avgn episodes up to dec 31 2007.

[Anonymous No.7463094]

>>7462274
More and more are coming to the realization that what I say is correct, the shit SNES has been massively overrated for decades now, when in reality, it was never good, nowhere near the standards being set in the otherwise excellent 16-bit generation. Whereas years ago it was the norm to consider the SNES "good", if not "the best console ever", these days that discourse never goes unquestioned. Are you getting nervous, nintendrone?

[Anonymous No.7463208]

>>7462207
>Dreamcast PS2 Xbox
Did you miss this was a N64 Gamecube thread?

[Anonymous No.7463229]

>>7463208
Then N64 still wins.

>shmups
Sin & Punishment > any Cube shmup
>fighters
Rakuga Kids > any Cube fighter
>racing
F-Zero X > any Cube racer

[Anonymous No.7463231]

>>7456687
Nintendo has a hateboner for loading times, which is nice because I do too. The entire point of both of these things was to make load times not exist. The Gamecube disc was supposed to be a compromise that forced 3rd party devs to push their shit onto a small area so that even when the disc was horribly optimized the load times were still way better than the competitors.

[Anonymous No.7463236]

>>7456705
>N64
>distant 2nd place in US/EU, last place in Japan
>Gaycuck
>distant second in Japan, last place everywhere else
>extremely popular and successful

[Anonymous No.7463249]

>>7462289
>Sega is better off 3rd party.
Only a zoomer who didn't grow up with Sega in their prime would say this.

[Anonymous No.7463253]

>>7458432
>muh 512x448
Then by the chart's standards SNES only has like a dozen games.

[Anonymous No.7463278]

I'm a big fan of both systems. My flashcart N64 and GCloader(ed) Gamecube are always front and center in the living room.

Don't know what the deal is with the sudden uptick of hatred. I can only assume somebody made a YouTube video.

[Anonymous No.7463376]

>>7463229
>Then N64 still wins.
You do know the difference between a shmup and a rail shooter? And I had to look up what Rakuga kids was. I doubt you've even played it or know any of the characters or moves.
>F-Zero X
This game with its zero detail for its courses or cars? It looks unfinished.

[Anonymous No.7463385]

>>7463229
>fighters
Soulcalibur 2 >>>> whatever the fuck is Rakuga Kids.

>racing
F-Zero GX >>>>> F-Zero X.

>shmups
Ok N64 wins.

[Anonymous No.7463429]

>>7463376
A "rail shooter" is just a shmup in 3D, retard.

[Anonymous No.7463691]

>>7463429
The very first rail shooters were 2D, you zoomer retard..

[Anonymous No.7463746]

>>7463691
They play in a 3D space, though, whether they're using sprites or polygons. And since you're constantly moving forward through the stages, in autoscroll fashion, that makes them shmups, just with the addition of Z depth, as opposed to only X and Y with 2D shmups.

[Anonymous No.7463765]

>>7463746
>they play in a 3D space
I can't believe you'd actually double down on your retardation.

[Anonymous No.7463773]

>>7456687
I always preferred N64/Gamecube to PS1/PS2 as a lad.

[Anonymous No.7463806]

>>7463765
1. That's a lightgun shooter, not a 3D shmup like what I posted.

2. Do you not understand 3D? You move along an X and Y axis while shooting at things on a Z axis that are ahead of you. Literally a 3D space.

[Anonymous No.7463920]

>>7463806
You sound like those zoomers who classify Double Dragon as fighting games.

[Anonymous No.7464396]

>>7456687
>Needs extra storage for shitty FMV cut scenes.

[Anonymous No.7464729]

They never fixed this BTW. The Wii and Wii U never went for traditional DVDs and neither excepted Physical Media other then games. The Switch went BACK TO CARTS and yet turned out a massive success. They never fucking learned

[Anonymous No.7464808]

>>7463806
You said that rail shooters are only 3D, and that is demonstrably false.
Again, how fucking retarded are you?

[Anonymous No.7465178]

>>7463920
Double Dragon is a scrolling fighter, you'd know that if you weren't a clueless zoomlet yourself.

>>7464808
If rail shooters such as Star Fox, Space Harrier, Night Striker and Panzer Dragoon aren't 3D, then what the fuck is a 3D game to you.

[Anonymous No.7465256]

>>7464729
>They never fucking learned
Nah, they just hated Sony that fucking much.
CD, DVD, Bluray. All of them are Sony formats.

[Anonymous No.7465262]

>>7465256
This is the correct answer. Jap suits do not let a grudge go.

[Anonymous No.7465274]

>>7465178
I wasn't saying that those games aren't 3D, you fucking mongoloid.
I was merely saying that some rail shooters are 2D.
How the fuck do you fail to grasp such a simple concept?

[Anonymous No.7465306]

>>7465274
Because the "rail shooters" you're referring to (lightgun games) are a completely different shooting sub-genre from the ones I was referring to (3D shmups).

https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/genre-chase-view-space-harrier-style-shooter

[Anonymous No.7465326]

>>7456808
Gamecube is already forgotten........

[Anonymous No.7465352]

>the state of /vr/

[Anonymous No.7465379]

>>7456687

I don't know, bro. They did the same with the Wii, (SD and DVD instead of Blu-ray) and it sold the most.

[Anonymous No.7465526]

>>7456687
My dad used to work at nintendo, he did it, OP. I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.7465623]

>>7465178
>Hurr durr but it's 2d and you can fight your friend to the death
RE4 is also a First person shooter.

[Anonymous No.7465631]

Why don't people just post comparison videos of multiplat games? People have done he legwork already, no need to argue and make baseless claims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgohhau18NM

[Anonymous No.7466460]

>>7464729
Switch Carts are objectively superior to what's avaialable on other platforms, if you are using more than 64GB of storage for a game you are a massive faggot.

[Anonymous No.7466475]

>>7465631
because it doesn't work the tools weren't there for decent porting or developers got lazy see any KONAMI game on Xbox utter shitshow it just isn't possible to compare stuff 1:1 like your example PS2 looks better in certain scenes than Xbox which is obviously way superior console

[Anonymous No.7466579]

>>7463278
>not getting the clone for less than half the price

[Anonymous No.7466629]

>>7466475
Silent Hill 2 Xbox is literally the best version

[Anonymous No.7466868]

>>7462847
I agree that should be a rule. unironically

[Anonymous No.7467059]

>>7458432
There isn't a single SNES game higher than 256x224 outside of menus, and that CPU is slower than a Gameboy.

[Anonymous No.7467124]

>>7466629
this is how i know you never played sh2

[Anonymous No.7467156]

>>7467124
k

[Anonymous No.7467314]

>>7463236
>b-b-b-but it outsold DREAMCAST!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.7467318]

>>7456687
Cost saving measures, that's how. N64 was the much bigger fuckup though. Nobody wants to pay $100 for a single game.