Games with isometric perspectives

[Anonymous No.7452395]

Was this a good gimmick?

[Anonymous No.7452402]

>>7452395
there's nothing I hate more than a stage in 45 degree isometric perspective surrounded by a black void

[Anonymous No.7452514]

>>7452402
That's because you're some faggot /pol/tard who can't stop letting blacks live rent free.

[Anonymous No.7452817]

>>7452514
thats not what I said you're misquoting me

[Anonymous No.7452821]

>>7452395
What game is that?

[Anonymous No.7452827]

>>7452395
Gimmick?

[Anonymous No.7452835]

>>7452395
I like it in strategy games and sim games. It was only a gimmick on the speccy

[Anonymous No.7452849]

>>7452395
It still is and should be used more

[Anonymous No.7452860]

>>7452849
Dota 2

>410,412.8

LOL

>2,159,440 Players Online

What's the problem with this site

[Anonymous No.7452919]

>>7452395
I like it

[Anonymous No.7452924]

>>7452395
What makes it a gimmick? It's one of the best ways to imply 3D without actually having it.

[Anonymous No.7452961]

>>7452821
Crusader No Remorse

[Anonymous No.7453027]

>>7452395
Yes.

[Anonymous No.7453043]

>>7453027
Wow, cool. Never heard of it before.
Looks like it's on myabandonware, I'm going to check it out.

[Anonymous No.7453052]

>>7452827
Gimmick!

[Anonymous No.7453059]

>>7453027
The angle makes this game fucking impossible, I can never quite tell my depth

[Anonymous No.7453249]

>>7452395
as long as there wasn't platforming

[Anonymous No.7453265]

>>7452395
Isometric is the most patrician of visual perspectives

[Anonymous No.7453447]

>>7452395
visually it's nice, it's only ok for slow paced games and what doesn't require precision

[Anonymous No.7453452]

>>7452395
It gives games the ability to move in x,y and z axis despite still being 2D. It’s a good idea.

[Anonymous No.7453507]

>>7453027
Aww man this in CGA must be one of my first living gaming memeories

[Anonymous No.7453528]

>>7452395
Not for platforming, but is fine for shooty type games.

[Anonymous No.7453581]

It works in games like strategy and RPG titles, but in action games the perspective can be a challenge sometimes. Moving and shooting in Crusader was a challenge due to the controls and the way that aiming works, sometimes the projectiles that should clearly be hitting their target don't because... just because. Flaws that hurt an otherwise excellent game.

[Anonymous No.7454272]

>>7452395
Yes in the old days. Nice graphics combined with low system requirements.

[Anonymous No.7454314]

>>7452395
"Gimmick" carries an unfair negative connotation. This was a way to implement 3D gameplay and detailed environment visuals when it wouldn't have been possible otherwise. But it also required skilled developers to leverage it effectively, so yeah, in many cases the negative spin would be justified.

[Anonymous No.7454338]

In PC games with mouse controls? That was the shit, man. Played the fuck out of two Crusader games. But on consoles? Fuck no, I tried to play Solstice for NES recently and the control sucked for me at least the music is kino.

[Anonymous No.7454449]

>>7452395
makes for the comfiest games

[Anonymous No.7455046]

>>7454338
Oh yea... I was having trouble getting it to play on PC so I bought it for Saturn and didn't like it. I'll have to give it another try then.

[Anonymous No.7455084]

>>7452395
crusader on /v/, now this is a good day
Absurdly underrated game

[Anonymous No.7455089]

[Anonymous No.7455107]

[Anonymous No.7455379]

>>7453528
>didn't ID game
ANON

[Anonymous No.7455386]

>>7452514
you will never be a real woman

[Anonymous No.7455453]

>>7452395
Why do you think this a gimmick?
Take away the isometric perspective and the game changes fundamentally.
So by definition: This is not a gimmick.

[Anonymous No.7455524]

>>7452395
No, it was a good perspective

[Anonymous No.7455535]

>>7452402
Don't look behind you...

[Anonymous No.7455541]

>>7455453
Nah, you could make it a normal grid and it would be the same. Wouldn't get to see the crap on the walls but that's not fundamental.

[Anonymous No.7455596]

>>7452395
>gimmick
>was
zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.7455621]

THE G O A T

[Anonymous No.7455636]

>>7452860
>It still is
Aside from your standard arenas and DnD/turn based type of games I don't see it used that much, the current gimmick is to do 2D pixelshit or 3D with old PSX filters for your upcoming indie game, stuff like >>7453027 is hard to find just because it feels "awkward", I only can remember Project Zomboid as a somewhat different isometric game but I'd like to see more platformers trying something with the isometric camera, it could be done but faggots that complain about tank controls are the reason for game devs not to try different/new mechanics for game genres

[Anonymous No.7455692]

It just feels right.

[Anonymous No.7455721]

>>7455541
I can't see a game like RCT2, a game that relies on multi level scenery; really working in a top down perspective.

[Anonymous No.7455731]

>>7453528
The strike series were amazing games. Like choplifter on a fuckhuge map and hundreds of secrets hidden all around. Just go exploring off the main mission pack and steal fuel and shit from wrecked buildings. The winching was so satisfying.

[Anonymous No.7455751]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t4a2LpbPbu4

Dying in infereresting ways was the best part of this game.

[Anonymous No.7455758]

7452514
0/10, but I KEK'd

[Anonymous No.7455763]

>>7455379
>he doesn't know

Damn, Anon, you need to look up the Strike series by EA. They are all worth playing.

[Anonymous No.7456376]

It's fine, unless

[Anonymous No.7456406]

>>7452961
>Crusader No Remorse

I had a friend back in the day who would play a lot of Syndicate and Crusader: No Remorse for DOS PC. The original X-Com: UFO defense. All classic isometric PC strategy games.

[Anonymous No.7456482]

>>7456376
you can just come in here and post the forbidden perspective!!!

[Anonymous No.7456510]

>>7455721
It might be less good but it wouldn't be fundamentally different gameplay.

[Anonymous No.7456563]

>>7456482
The problem is it's not even a real perspective, where the hell is the horizon supposed to be?

[Anonymous No.7456581]

>>7454449
Those sprites are shit and they didnt even bothered to use Chaos gate ones

[Anonymous No.7456657]

>>7455524
Bitmap Brothers art is full of soul

[Anonymous No.7456684]

>>7456376

I fixed the perspective in gimp.

[Anonymous No.7456772]

>>7456376
I unironically like tdw, just because of Tibia

[Anonymous No.7456961]

>>7455107
I wish this game was turn based. Heresy, I know.

[Anonymous No.7457005]

[Anonymous No.7457015]

[Anonymous No.7457090]

>>7452395
Crusader is so fucking good. The music, the weapons, the death animations, the live-action cutscenes

[Anonymous No.7457319]

>>7455731
Desert Strike and Jungle Strike made up a couple of my summers as a kid.

Urban Strike not so much because I hated the on foot missions.

[Anonymous No.7457321]

>>7457090
No Remorse or No Regret?

Which one is better to play?

[Anonymous No.7457343]

>>7452395
NEVER MENTION CRUSADER
it's the last good game they haven't fucked up

[Anonymous No.7457345]

>>7457090
>>7457321
NO STOP RIGHT NOW

[Anonymous No.7457438]

>>7457345
calm down Nancy and tell me WTF you are going on about.

[Anonymous No.7457453]

>>7457321
>No Remorse or No Regret?
>Which one is better to play?


They are both great. Play the original. Both games are on GOG and Origin. The Saturn and PS1 versions are worth looking at too, The sequel is an MS-DOS only release.

[Anonymous No.7457493]

Fallout 1 and 2, Arcanum, Diablo 1 and 2. I love that mid 90's to early 2000's DOS/ Windows 9x isometric games.

[Anonymous No.7457506]

>>7452514
Man this escalated

[Anonymous No.7457756]

>>7456684
Nice. Still military oblique projection though. I tried making it more isometric.

[Anonymous No.7457808]

>>7452395

[Anonymous No.7457848]

>>7452395
It was great except when the Fallout games thought you should barely be able to feel around for a door from the north side of a wall (and be unable to click it if it's too close in the transparency bubble that forms around you because it's completely transparent at that point, but also can't be clicked if it's fully occluded either).

Every other circumstance, the answer is that it's great.

[Anonymous No.7457914]

>>7455621
Stole the aesthetic from the Japanese A Train series.

[Anonymous No.7458007]

>>7452514
Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.7458010]

>>7457015
I miss Bullfrog

>>7457914
Then they knew to use a good aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.7458012]

>>7457005
Dat D Generation

[Anonymous No.7458053]

>>7455621
interestingly, SimCity 1 had the top-down military perspective like the Ultima series >>7456376 but switched to isometric for 2000 when it introduced elevation of the terrain

[Anonymous No.7458062]

>>7452395
Some I liked were Diablo, Rock N Roll Racing, Biker Mice from Mars, Shadowrun
>>7453059
I agree with this Anon.

[Anonymous No.7458074]

>>7455089
Loved this game as a kid.

[Anonymous No.7458097]

>>7452395
Only when Capcom came up with Breath of Fire IV's control scheme which allows us to move diagonally by just pressing the regular D-Pad directions instead of having to press the diagonals everytime

[Anonymous No.7458270]

>>7452395
no, it's a soulless gimmick

[Anonymous No.7458307]

>>7452514
Can you blame him? Blacks should stop being poor and pay their fucking rents already.

[Anonymous No.7458329]

>>7457015
Thanks, anon. This was a fun game but I remember it becoming tedious as well.

[Anonymous No.7458487]

[Anonymous No.7458559]

>>7456684
gods that looks so much better

[Anonymous No.7459030]

>>7452395
It was a good way to have a 3Dish view given the technology at the time. Hardly a gimmick.

[Anonymous No.7459041]

>>7457756

Not bad. There is a plug-in for the Open Source Exult engine, that rotates the playing field by 45 degrees like this. But it is buggy?

[Anonymous No.7459518]

>>7456772
I see you are an anon of culture as well

[Anonymous No.7459668]

>>7455107
The vibe in syndicate is kino
For me, it's front mission

[Anonymous No.7459814]

does Starcraft count?

[Anonymous No.7459871]

[Anonymous No.7459942]

>>7455089
I hid this game at the video rental store so that nobody could rent it but me.

[Anonymous No.7460081]

>>7457321
Both. No Remorse might seem a turn off at first because of the controls but you'll get used to it. No Regret is a little harder imo but still worth a look.

[Anonymous No.7460093]

I suck at this game but I still enjoy it

[Anonymous No.7460103]

This was my only favorite isometric game.

I wish I knew of more isometric games inside an arena like this.

[Anonymous No.7460113]

>>7452395
It's not a gimmick, retard.
kys zoomer.

[Anonymous No.7460969]

[Anonymous No.7460992]

>>7457321
first no remorse and then no regret, since regret is the sequel

[Anonymous No.7461006]

ONE TWO THREE FOUR HITIT

[Anonymous No.7461269]

>>7459814
oh watch out with those graphics! retro-fags gonna reee

[Anonymous No.7461601]

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[Anonymous No.7461721]

>>7452514
>faggot /pol/tard
fuck bros i just came from /pol/ to this board cause i wanted games
and then there's this retard
is it common to talk politics outside of /pol/ ?

[Anonymous No.7461725]

>>7461721
No. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.7462352]

On Super Mario RPG (snes) isometric perspective during platforms sections was just bullshit, it was so imprecise, so hard to get the right timing... I'm glad they didn't made an another one with the exact perspective.

[Anonymous No.7462630]

>>7452395
They fucked it up at times in CNR by adding isometric platforming, which is a mess because the controls suck something fierce.

[Anonymous No.7462654]

>>7453027
Thank you. I played this one back in the day and couldn't remember the name of it.

[Anonymous No.7463274]

>FILTERS

[Anonymous No.7464763]

>>7456376
Reminds me of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I

[Anonymous No.7464774]

It is works fine for strategy games, RPGs and tile-based games. Awful in action games, especially if they have platforming.

[Anonymous No.7464819]

>>7452395
It's not a gimmick you idiot.

[Anonymous No.7464829]

>>7461601
Man FO1 really had some soulfull setpieces.

[Anonymous No.7464841]

>>7464829
I always loved the way it looked. No idea why people call it ugly even for an old game.

[Anonymous No.7464846]

Does Intelligent Qube for PSX count? That game is fuggin fantastic.

[Anonymous No.7464849]

>>7457808
Helps to have the best title screen music of all time

[Anonymous No.7464854]

>>7452395
Makes me think of Classic Fallout

[Anonymous No.7465047]

>>7452395
yes. pic related never recovered after they stopped it

[Anonymous No.7465071]

>>7452395
Nope

[Anonymous No.7465073]

>>7452395
Yes.

[Anonymous No.7467074]

>>7452395
nah

[Anonymous No.7467656]

>>7455107
>>7459668
For me it's Shadow Watch which inspired more recent Invisible Inc.

[Anonymous No.7467776]

>>7467656
huh this reminds me of laser squad and payback time (1+2) and some third game but it just might be this game, never played it so memory is hazy at best.

[Anonymous No.7467779]

>>7467776

[Anonymous No.7467827]

>>7452395
Isn't this the snowblind engine? I absolutely love them in games like Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance

[Anonymous No.7469479]

>>7458053
I wonder how Maxis came up with that idea.

[Anonymous No.7469490]

>>7452395
It's ironic that Crusader's tagline was "Nonstop action from a different perspective" when its isometric perspective and tank controls are what make it so inaccessible. If it used the System Shock engine or similar it would probably be much bigger than it is, being basically a missing link between action shooters and immersive sims.

[Anonymous No.7469498]

>>7457321
Remorse is way better. Regret is a sort of cashgrab sequel, reusing most of the same assets while cutting content like peaceful allied base section. If you love Remorse, you'll still enjoy Regret, but it's not on par.

[Anonymous No.7469613]

Baldur's Gate: Ludonarrative consonance and Ultima Underworld-ish highbrow flair are two different aspects of the game emphasizing discrepancy in the looks: the rocks look both smooth and disorienting. Someone's leading someone by the nose, so screw that. Semi related to light story of Enclave.
Icewind Dale: No need for that style of modelling to look hella weird lookie here. Also you have provided, willing or not, you are as good as the same, uh-huh. Thou Hath Erred.
Temple of Elemental Evil: This is me, virtue-signalling like in that unique snowflake game Ruins of Myth Drannor. Also, this have nothing to do with BG, definitely not a reboot, so that's some lesson for you pal, now what was that about virtuesignalling.

[Anonymous No.7469658]

>>7469613
PS:T is, among other things, a bait leading to you peering into IWD enough to read Thou Hath Erred.
Now There Is No Escape.

[Anonymous No.7469672]

>>7469658
You see there is this thing called Grimdark. It is somehow connected with completely and utterly hopeless situations. I wonder whether finding yourself in such a hopeless situation could produce an outburst of sort - and whether this has been the intent from the very start to begin with.

[Anonymous No.7469716]

>>7452860
>>7458487

It's not isometric if farther things are smaller, is it? Not every top-down RTS or whatever with a 3D graphics engine is automatically "isometric".

[Anonymous No.7469723]

>>7469613

Please learn English fully if you're gonna try to say fancy things in it.

[Anonymous No.7469805]

>>7469723
I is do stuff els

[Anonymous No.7469826]

Not the right board but a newer game that I'm really enjoying is underrail.

[Anonymous No.7469835]

>>7469658
What is Thou Hath Erred? I just get a bible verse, no connection to IWD.

[Anonymous No.7469858]

>>7452395
Hello Charlie
https://youtu.be/dpqYl8cgmjI?t=318

[Anonymous No.7470013]

>>7469613
Style of modelling is thus. There is a particular tetrahedron made of four equal to each other but not equal-sided triangular faces. Said tetrahedron is particular in that it is possible to glue square-cell grid onto each side to that lines intersecting each edge click perfectly one into another. In other words, for unfiltered Quake-alike 3D texels flow one into another across each edge if textures are aligned correctly on all four sides.

If is possible to use such tetrahedrons in a sort of 3D mosaic, in order to construct surfaces with textures flowing along them hitchlessly. Such surfaces consist of equal but not equal-sided triangular faces, that have to be aligned between themselves and in regard to texturing perfectly.

There is a glitch of sort to it however of a neurophysiological nature, it is impossible to overcome. Suppose you have such tetrahedron, each of four sides with its texel grid, aligned in conjunction between themselves, it becomes apparent especially near the vertices, said tetrahedron consists of zilch. There are no bricks to it, texels depict nothingness beyond them, in other words this is visual trickery.
Your mind refuses to regard objects mapped alike as valid landmarks in order to measure how much you have moved or turned yourself in a virtual world. In other words you consistently mis-aim and generally get lost in so nicely mapped locales.
BG is a very tricky case of such modelling due to a) sporting static angled camera, moreover bird's eye view - and b) trying very hard to pass it for visual realism.

Evolva. That's one of those things modelled alike.
That's all.

[Anonymous No.7470028]

>>7456376
I hate this so much

[Anonymous No.7470051]

>>7453059
same.

[Anonymous No.7470054]

>>7456376
nightmare perspective with instant vertigo and nausea.

[Anonymous No.7470057]

>>7456482
lol

[Anonymous No.7470295]

>>7461006
this game is really good, very overlooked. it’s actually probably one of my favorite shmups. man the genesis was great

[Anonymous No.7470304]

>>7470295
first stage was really just R-Type though, even had that rotating ring

[Anonymous No.7471464]

>>7469613
P.S. Fallout, Entomorph, Nemesis.
P.P.S. Rage of Mages 1, Thunderscape, Dark Sun.

[Anonymous No.7472241]

>>7470013
P.P.P.S. Dragonsphere, Azrael's Tear, Thunderscape.

[Anonymous No.7472290]

>>7462630
> the controls suck something fierce.
Which is hugely ironic given that a) it uses the same engine as Ultima 8; b) U8 has exceptionally shit platforming they had to remove in a patch.

[Anonymous No.7473259]

>>7455621
no.
escape from the planet of the robot monsters!

>>7461006
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