/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7451971]

how come there was never a proper successor to this? I get that Nintendo is so stupid that they had to nix an entire franchise so it wouldn't take sales away from bing bing wahoo kart but God Damn.
>fast paced
>good guitar music
>high stakes
We need moar games like this

[Anonymous No.7451981]

I think there's a game called Fast Racing for Wii which is a knock off of this series

[Anonymous No.7452007]

>>7451971
got u covered, my niggy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEsPBU9OHM

[Anonymous No.7452045]

None of the spiritual successors that have and will be posted itt can replace f-zero because

>they don't copy its Western comic book style or worldbuilding
>they borrow as much from Wipeout as they do F-Zero, if not more so, from the gameplay to the combat to the track design to the music (only worse because an indie dev can't afford Sasha)

[Anonymous No.7452049]

>>7451971
What the hell do you think GX is?
I dont care about your personal opinion of the game - it's still a followup to X.

[Anonymous No.7452065]

>>7452049
My point was the series, not X. GX is still 20 years old btw.

[Anonymous No.7452139]

>>7451981
I think you're thinking of Fast Racing League.

Never played it, but the sequels Fast Racing Neo on Wii U and Fast RMX on Switch are dope.

[Anonymous No.7452150]

>>7451971
>how come there was never a proper successor to this?
Because Nintendo only wants million sellers. As a result, their offerings are getting stale as fuck. Even Metroid is getting shafted this gen.

[Anonymous No.7452284]

>>7452150
You mean multi-million sellers. Even F-Zero X and GX sold a million copies. But it's a lot of work for a very technical series that doesn't sell that much. Why do that when you can make a Mario Kart and sell 15 million easy?

[Anonymous No.7452336]

>>7451971
Nintendo has some silly ideas regarding making new games for franchises outside of the most core ones where they'll only do it if they have a unique idea to apply to it, and the reason F-Zero has been left in the dustbin is because they haven't been able to think up anything new and unique for it

[Anonymous No.7452383]

1. The series never sold particularly well
2. They don't have a studio that can actual make a good F-Zero game. It was have to be outsourced.

[Anonymous No.7452415]

>>7452336
I really really fucking wish people would stop parroting this shit. It's obviously not true. Nintendo shit out games constantly with absolutely nothing new or unique about them.

This is the kind of PR shit they come up with to get people to stop asking them for new Earthbound, F-Zero, Golden Sun and Advance Wars games.

[Anonymous No.7452592]

>>7452284
This is objectively the correct answer.

[Anonymous No.7452625]

>>7452049
GX is more like an action game in racing game clothing because so much of its skill comes from analog feeling button techniques instead of fine analog steering. which is fine by the way, i just think that gx people sometimes dont realize their game is a niche within a niche within a niche and wonder why racing game people dont worship it as a god. i think gx playerbase is kind of like a moba in the sense that its players dont seem to like other games much at all (in the racing genre)

[Anonymous No.7452630]

>>7452625
sorry i mean digital feeling button techniques

[Anonymous No.7453386]

>>7452150
>Metroid is getting shafted this gen.
It got cancelled and restarted by retro... but we haven't heard anything for ...2 years now?

[Anonymous No.7453395]

>>7452045
>>they don't copy its Western comic book style or worldbuilding

hahah fqueeros finally admit it, its all about MUH DILDO IN A ONESIE characters and MUH WHOOSH ON A KALEIDOSCOPE ROLLACOASTER TRACK!

[Anonymous No.7453808]

>>7453386
game is stuck in development hell, anon. don't be surprised if they cancel it one day

[Anonymous No.7453812]

>>7452045
I would love to see one inspired by Moebius and heavy metal.

[Anonymous No.7454141]

>>7452625
...now that you mention it that may be why I could never get into GX like I did with X. I own both but I haven't touched GX in ages now.

[Anonymous No.7454319]

>>7452045
>>they don't copy its Western comic book style or worldbuilding
this was there for one game arguably

[Anonymous No.7454327]

>>7453386
they're also doing Metroid V this year too
why are people forgetting about Metroid V? it's going to be doper than Tanabe's Star Wars/Avengers Metroid.

[Anonymous No.7454347]

>>7452139
I did not enjoy Fast RMX, those Ikaruga boost pads have got to go

[Anonymous No.7454349]

>>7452383
>1. The series never sold particularly well
all the main games even MV are million sellers
it's more the fact Nintendo has zero idea on pushing the franchise forward, because it's going to be a Need for Speed/Midnight Club clone at this rate.

[Anonymous No.7454362]

>>7452415
>Earthbound
the series has been completed
>Golden Sun
the last release was dogshit and nintendo isn't trustfunding another game at that rare
>Advance Wars
the DS games were so divisive ISIS just stick to Fire Emblem despite saying "they're always thinking of the next game"

>Nintendo shit out games constantly with absolutely nothing new or unique about them.
you're going to be specific in the developer's eye than the console warriors' mouth.
not even an F-Zero fag could come up with a brilliant idea to do more traditional F-Zero title, it's always "make it GTA-lite" or "just let Platinum Games or Sakurai do it"

[Anonymous No.7454851]

>>7451971
Because it's antithetical to their brand image. Making an Fzero game after GX would have meant adding online, which would have meant competition, which would have meant lowering the skill ceiling.
If it doesn't have potential appeal for literally everyone in your family then they don't want to make it.

[Anonymous No.7455006]

>>7454362

Not him, but small revisions don't make for novel games. It's usually mainline Mario games where Nintendo puts all their creative focus on, all of the Mario spin-offs (including MK), Pokemon, Smash, etc. are mostly the same game with some features put in and others taken out. Zelda was exactly the same game until Breath of the Wild, and even then they were praised for doing something Bethesda had been doing for 2 decades. Sorry, but it is PR speak, Nintendo doesn't care that much about innovation in the current year. If they can't market the game properly, they won't make it. F-Zero is too much of a niche game, even Metroid with Samus's appeal still has trouble getting games done.

Besides, the real reason is that F-Zero games just aren't that great. They're twitchy, high-speed platformers, more than actual racing games, which is why only a small amount of people are into them. I'm very much into racing games, and F-Zero is the first time I found myslef having zero fun with one, namely because it barely plays like one (INB4 the git gud, go actually play a racing sim instead of a futuristic bing-bing wahoo racer). At this rate, they're better off remaster GX and adding an online mode.

[Anonymous No.7455053]

Hard to innovate such a simple concept

[Anonymous No.7455495]

I like Kirby Air Ride.

[Anonymous No.7455516]

>>7452415
They use that argument regarding major IPs such as Zelda and Mario. They are not referring to generic multiplayer IP updates or kid filler like Kirby. F-Zero is an IP they would consider to be of greater substance so they can't make a new one until "something innovative" comes up.

However in the case of F-Zero and a few other IPs I think they're just done with them. They bring up that excuse for them because then they don't have to say anymore.

[Anonymous No.7455537]

>>7455516
Is there any real reason why another studio couldn't make an F-Zero type game that's as good as what a new F-Zero game would be?

I don't think the same could be said of Mario, Zelda, Kirby or Metroid.

[Anonymous No.7455552]

>>7455537
Sci-fi racing is a very arcadey and retro style of gameplay. Racing in general is just a niche now so they're just isn't that much interest in making technical space racing games for most companies. It's like why they don't make rail shooters anymore.

[Anonymous No.7455939]

>>7455006
>Zelda was exactly the same game until Breath of the Wild
no lol
i sure the garbage that came out after TP wer pretty different
fuck Phantom Hourglass and Squidward Sword

>the real reason is that F-Zero games just aren't that great.
>proceeds to cry the same lame retorts and excuses to shit on the series
okay Wipeoutcuck.
keep in mind Climax outdo your shitty games too.

[Anonymous No.7455971]

>>7451971
>good guitar music
Fuck off long haired rock faggot. Your shitty series is dead for a reason and the best game in said series was made by Sega not nintendope.

[Anonymous No.7456018]

>>7451971
>I get that Nintendo is so stupid that they had to nix an entire franchise so it wouldn't take sales away from bing bing wahoo kart.
Yes, Nintendo killed F-Zero because of Mario Kart and not low sales numbers.

[Anonymous No.7456038]

>>7455006
You've never played an F Zero game

[Anonymous No.7456137]

>>7455537
It's been confirmed they approached Criterion who made Burnout about making a F-Zero for the WiiU but they were busy on Need For Speed Pursuit so they couldn't.

And I guess Nitnendo just lost interest after that.

[Anonymous No.7456365]

>>7455971
this.

[Anonymous No.7456383]

>>7455006
git gud

[Anonymous No.7456387]

>>7453395
Lol go to bed "f-tranny" guy

[Anonymous No.7456393]

>>7455971
shouldn't you be looting someone you triple nigger

[Anonymous No.7456408]

>>7452336
Proof that you’re wrong: Every Paper Mario after the first one being a blatant rehash

[Anonymous No.7456424]

>>7454362
>just stick to Fire Emblem

Too bad the first half of the new Fire Emblem game is anime high school bills hit and a waifu dating simulator made to pander to genetic dead ends.

Die hero or become villain etc etc

[Anonymous No.7456437]

>>7454362
>>Nintendo shit out games constantly with absolutely nothing new or unique about them.
>you're going to be specific in the developer's eye than the console warriors' mouth.

He’s right though, and I say this as a Nintendo fan. All they do these days is remasters for $60. Half of their legendary IP’s are dead.

[Anonymous No.7456465]

If Nintendo kept throwing money at old properties that didn't sell well enough then they would have been driven out of the hardware business by Sony and Microsoft decades ago just like Sega.

I like the series, but any reasonably run company would have done the exact same thing.

[Anonymous No.7456720]

I don't understand why people want F-Zero so bad. A lot of it feels like whining from nu Nintendo fags that werent even around for the first few games nor have ever played them until some memelord said to emulate GX on Dolphin.

You always hear these types of people on twatter moaning about Mother/Star Fox/Pikmin/Animal Crossing/Insert Nintendo IP but they never actually buy anything. They just wanna bitch about something. Some IPs just dont last, dont need further sequels, theyve all said their piece. Thats consoomer mentality. Just asking for a GX rehash. You bitch about rehashes from Nintendo or remakes and ports but you'd all unironically sóyface over a GX HD port. Get some introspection. Get a grip.

[Anonymous No.7456743]

>>7456720
>That pic
Go back to /v/ to scream about Smash Bros. you faggot.

[Anonymous No.7456762]

>>7456137
Then that means there's some hope right? The Wii U isn't that old.

[Anonymous No.7456776]

>>7456720
>that werent even around for the first few games

Guess I can't listen to Black Sabbath because I "wasn't even around". I also better stop driving my car since I "wasn't even around" when it was invented. I should also check which games I like that were released a year or two before I was born so I know damn well to put them out with tonight's trash. Thanks man!!

[Anonymous No.7456779]

>>7455006
>Besides, the real reason is that F-Zero games just aren't that great. They're twitchy, high-speed platformers, more than actual racing games
>platformers
smoothbrain
>(INB4 the git gud, go actually play a racing sim instead of a futuristic bing-bing wahoo racer)
racing sims are fucking boring. like bro just go outside and drive a real car. video games are supposed to be unrealistic and bombastic.

[Anonymous No.7456791]

>>7456437
wait theres a harvest moon coming out? i dont think that was in the direct, what is it?

[Anonymous No.7456807]

>>7456365
>bleep bloop bleep bloop

[Anonymous No.7456831]

>>7454319
Even disregarding the artstyles of the games, a lot of character designs are heavily taking after comic book superhero/villain costumes.

[Anonymous No.7456912]

>>7456424
they even went ahead and took a page from Advance Wars for their otome VN by Koei Tecmo cheapskate.

[Anonymous No.7456921]

>>7456437
>All they do these days is remasters for $60
because the WiiU was a flop and Nintendo is taking advantage of this since they're making a shit ton of money now,

if they go by a whole span without a F-Zero collection in honor of Imamura, i will riot.

[Anonymous No.7456929]

>>7455006
>go play a racing sim
No thanks, I like speed and fun, not “Gear Ratio and Tire Pressure Menu 2021”

[Anonymous No.7456931]

>>7456743
you have no right to cry about smashbabbies if that triggered you.
because that was a jab to those failed smash rosterfag bandwagons.

[Anonymous No.7456936]

>>7455552
Except that’s NOT why rail shooters stopped getting made, you idiot. That’s because they were basically arcade reliant and those are dead.

[Anonymous No.7456962]

>>7455971
Get fucked you electrofag or shitty mumbletard

[Anonymous No.7457051]

>>7456921
>because the WiiU was a flop
they've already moved on to porting wii and 3ds games now. nintendo is greedier and lazier than they've ever been.

[Anonymous No.7457059]

>>7456720
and here comes the pathetic ninceldrone shill to lecture us on how we shouldn't want anything other than mario/zelda/animal crossing forever.

[Anonymous No.7457782]

They could at least publish remasters with online.

[Anonymous No.7457910]

If your guitars sound like scratching you just made shitty noise, not music. F-Zero X ruined F-Zero music.

[Anonymous No.7459415]

>>7455006
I do play racing sims. Go play fzero. Play flat zero, you'll probably like them more.

[Anonymous No.7460764]

>>7451971
Nintendo has a serious problem, it has too many IPs and not enough devs, and on top of this they also run their own platform, every generation there are games that they have to release to drive their consoles into the homes of consumers, and in general Nintendo are the only company that does this on their hardware, Monster Hunter Rise is literally the only non Nintendo game that so far is doing this on their current hardware, this game is releasing after 4 years on store shelves, and there's a good chance that Rise will be the only game on their current hardware that will ever do this, and Monster Hunter will more than likely be the only game to do this on their next platform do, assuming Capcom doesn't pull it to focus on pushing World. When you take this into consideration it isn't that Nintendo are simply not interested in making a new F-Zero, or that they are removing sales because it will steal them from Mario Kart, F-Zero won't be doing that, it's because Nintendo need to have a Mario Kart to drive sales, but don't need F-Zero to drive sales, so Mario Kart a game that comes out really only once per platform gets priority.
Nintendo do have other series that aren't requirements to drive sales of their platforms, but if you look at those games in every case it's an IP with a dedicated studio, Fire Emblem, Kirby, Xenoblade.
Yakuza Studio could probably score another contract with Nintendo for more F-Zero but they want to make Yakuza.

[Anonymous No.7460772]

>>7454327
People aren't forgetting about Metroid V, it hasn't been announced.

[Anonymous No.7460802]

>>7451971
>how come there was never a proper successor to this?
Play Daytona USA if you want to experience a good racing game.

[Anonymous No.7462294]

>>7454347
Each to their own, but I personally loved those Ikaruga boost pads.

[Anonymous No.7462310]

Not that anon but,
>>7456936
>Except that’s NOT why rail shooters stopped getting made, you idiot. That’s because they were basically arcade reliant and those are dead.

Arcade style games become niche because no arcades, arcade racers and arcade rail shooters got tarred by that same brush. Why is that hard to understand anon?

[Anonymous No.7462393]

>>7456720
>all the seething replies
based

[Anonymous No.7462670]

>>7460764
The Yakuza director said in an interview 2 months ago that he'd be interested in making another F-Zero if he had the opportunity. So it's more that Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about F-Zero.