/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7433118]

how long will the capacitors last on 6th gen power supplies?

[Anonymous No.7433124]

who cares. by the time enough of them go that you can't reasonably afford a new unit, the s0i scientists will just come up replacement capacitors and cheap refurb services to ensure that you can continue to avoid emulating for years to come.

[Anonymous No.7433132]

>>7433124
yeah but I don't want to pay 100 bucks to have someone replace all that shit.

[Anonymous No.7433136]

>>7433118
I think the evidence is clear that they only have a few years left. Its hard to argue with this:
https://youtu.be/QgksfOYP0SI

[Anonymous No.7433227]

>>7433132
>zoomie can’t use a soldering iron

[Anonymous No.7433740]

>>7433136
Why are you shilling this video so hard? Are you from Screenwave?

[Anonymous No.7433759]

>>7433740
it's Mike, he's still sore he got fired

[Anonymous No.7433859]

For as long as i say the will bitch

[Anonymous No.7433968]

>>7433118
Doesn't matter. You need to open all your consoles and "fix" (break) them right now.

[Anonymous No.7433971]

>>7433124
>the s0i scientists will just come up replacement capacitors
if youre not playing on original hardware, just use an emulator at that point

[Anonymous No.7433975]

>>7433968
Imagine being so tech illiterate that a few torx screws and the fear of breaking over-priced ewaste stops you cracking open the cases, here is the inside of my American version of the Apple Pippin.

[Anonymous No.7433981]

>>7433759
Doubt it. Mike was hanging out with Ryan in his recent livestream. I think its obvious that Mike quit on his own

[Anonymous No.7433991]

>>7433981
Yeah, ryan is the boss right? If theyre still hanging out, then they all must be cool with each other still

[Anonymous No.7434051]

>>7433740
I am a genuine fan of James Rolfe & The Rex Vipers

[Anonymous No.7434052]

>>7433975
okay, now desolder the chips and replace them

[Anonymous No.7434062]

>>7434052
where do you think the dumps in MAME came from, retard

[Anonymous No.7434063]

>>7433740
I am a genuine fan of James Rolfe & The Rex Vipers. Check out James' guitar technique here. He is really impressive and only been playing a short time. They plan to release an album and tour this year if COVID lets up.

[Anonymous No.7434176]

>>7434063
Not even gen Z is gonna pay to see insufferable cringe like that.

[Anonymous No.7434189]

>>7434176
I'm sure they all want to watch you stream instead, Mike
James doesn't give a shit who is cringing, the entire character is one that everybody would dunk on, a dweeby nerd.

[Anonymous No.7434518]

>>7433118

Most are fine unless they have been stored in humid and hot places. A visual inspection to make sure they are not leaking/bulging should be good.

For example you should check your original xbox psu. Those things get extremely hot. The main reason to check that area in particular is to resolder the ac port connections and header on the motherboard for power. Over time they develop cold solder joints and can arc causing fires. This is why most Xbox ac cord has a fuse built in to prevent it. One should open it up anyhow to replace the clock capacitor and thermal paste on the gpu/cpu anyhow as general maintenance.

Here is another reason you shouldn't replace capacitors all willy nilly in switch mode power supplies.

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/112541/can-i-replace-a-general-purpose-electrolytic-capacitor-with-a-low-esr-capacitor#:~:text=Generally%2C%20low%20ESR%20can%20be,can%20get%20them%20very%20easily).

the general notion that you can replace general purpose capacitors with low esr is a massive blanket statement. There are corner cases where doing so can have oscillation or make the circuit behave different causing unintended effects.

One thing to keep in mind with these switch mode psus is some of them are picky about whatesr they have. Do a quick google search on people recapping sega saturn psus and having lines appear in their picture afterwards when it was fine before. I believe the problem was a transistor/regulator that started behaving after the recap iirc.

so tl;dr I don't think cap replacement for everything as a general rule is a good idea.

[Anonymous No.7434535]

You should all be glad that NiCad batteries are no longer used, if you are a retro collector and have boards with NiCads on, immediately snip them off and replace, when they leak it will eat the board until and unfixable state.
Check the top corner of this PCB, this isn't even the worst I've had to deal with. Capacitors bursting are far less of a hassle than this, they just spew out cotton wadding.

[Anonymous No.7434789]

>>7433971
>just use an emulator
No thanks

[Anonymous No.7435246]

>>7434518
it's not. it's uneducated morons trying to destroy their japanese children's toys. I'm so sick of seeing "installed muh ps1 digital and recap and nothing works now". how many of these faggots are actually buying name brand caps to redo their boards. the aliexpress/amazon grab bag is not going to be better in the long run than the 1980s nichicon caps in your NES
regular recapping came from the arcade community because any 2nd or 3rd hand unit in your basement probably had been running in a hot arcade for hours, then shut on/off a lot, stored in bad conditions, etc. Fuck, i've seen some boards covered it rat piss and shit, sand, whatever. recapping is the minimum. especially for displays.
If it's performing well in it's current environment, don't fuck with it. that's production tech 101. If you keep your consoles in a cool, dry place like your house then they don't need to be recapped every 10 years.
There are cases where recaps fix things because they caught a bad cap. you can check caps for shorts or get an ESR tester. Recapping is just a shotgun approach to compensate for lackluster troubleshooting skills.
Finally certain caps do just leak because of bad production. these are well known cases (game gear, certain MSX, xbox). It's not like these systems need a recap "just because"

[Anonymous No.7435257]

>>7435246
Lol in the CRT realm there's a "PVM Tech" named Pat who will "refurbish" pro monitors with Chinese capacitors. He doesn't even do all of them also. You can buy the chink kits for 400-500% price if you're too lazy to order Japanese ones for yourself.

[Anonymous No.7435279]

>>7434535
some of the CPS3 nightmares I've seen coming back to me.

[Anonymous No.7435343]

>>7433740
>>7433981
>>7433991
Why do you guys even watch their crap? It's obvious none of them have a fucking clue what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.7435354]

Power supplies are usually ez to fix or just to replace with anything. Even making your own is relatively simple. I would be more worried about everything else around them.

[Anonymous No.7435357]

>>7434518
Anybody who owned an Xbox at the time and was aware of the recall could get their hands on the updated power cord for free. Really no excuse for one to exist that doesn’t have it.

[Anonymous No.7435371]

>>7434518
If my Xbox doesn't remember the date and time i'm guessing the capacitor has already been removed?

[Anonymous No.7435405]

>>7435371
This is commonly caused by replacing with the wrong size cap

[Anonymous No.7435419]

>>7435246
I've never had to replace power supplies or caps on any of my consoles
I'm not familiar with arcade hardware but it also ends up being necessary on a lot of older computers, I would imagine for similar reasons of being stored poorly or being thrown into a closet and running 24/7

[Anonymous No.7435425]

>>7435257
He charges hundreds of dollars too. He’s some boomer out in California

[Anonymous No.7435502]

>>7435371
No, not necessarily. It could just be that the capacitor has already failed but hasn't yet been removed. This was the case with my Xbox. It's easy enough to open up the console and check, anyway.

[Anonymous No.7435598]

>>7435502
It's already been modded and had the hard drive replaced so i'm hoping it's the case.

[Anonymous No.7435616]

all xbox caps are thoughhole, it's fucking trivial to replace them and install a modchip, which will completely futureproof the xbox

[Anonymous No.7435842]

>>7433975
Imagine being so reading comprehension illiterate that you post this cringe?

>>7434062
Very clean job replacing those

[Anonymous No.7435971]

Some stuff like late 80s-early 90s Macs and big box Amigas famously had capacitors from Hell and nearly always need to be replaced.

[Anonymous No.7435989]

>>7435354
Especially when it's a C64 PSU.

[Anonymous No.7436025]

>>7435425
He's 84 years old. I've been to his workshop.

[Anonymous No.7436362]

>>7436025
Imagine still having to work into your 80's. I guess that's what being born in the land of the free™ gets you.

[Anonymous No.7436370]

>>7436362
He's retired. It's just a hobby for him at this point.

[Anonymous No.7436408]

>>7435371
you could be safe. later consoles completely did away with the cap for the clock, and used a watch battery instead. so >>7435371
if you have one of those, your battery might just need to be replaced. and like >>7435405 and >>7435502 said, these could also be it

[Anonymous No.7436429]

>>7436362
>land of the free™
America was corrupted and its values subverted were by the Jew so long ago that you can be an old man and still have no idea what they took from you.

[Anonymous No.7436864]

>>7433981
Mike is such a baby.