Was there no play-testing of Paprium?

[Anonymous No.7421218]

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydMLculJDIc
Apparently the game is way too easy, even on the hardest difficulty setting.
It sucks because the game looks spectacular.

[Anonymous No.7421257]

>>7421218
>Was there no play-testing of Paprium?
No. Cause Fonzie was too paranoid to. He shared the game with Luis. Who is a clueless noob anyway.

>>7421218
>the game looks spectacular.
i bet you wear neon spandex cloths and randomly shout: SHOWTIME

[Anonymous No.7421328]

>>7421257
>No. Cause Fonzie was too paranoid to. He shared the game with Luis. Who is a clueless noob anyway.
This is just sad.
If the gameplay was great (rivaling or exceeding SoR2) this game could have single-handedly spawn a new retro indie (not homebrew demos and romhacks, but full-fledged games) dev movement.
He definitely would have benefited from some feedback.
For example, with any kind of a fighting or beat-em-up, you need to not only provide a diversity of moves and combos, but make sure that you can't rely on only one move/combo to win against AI. Paprium apparently suffers from this with jump kicks.
>i bet you wear neon spandex cloths and randomly shout: SHOWTIME
Let's be honest. The game looks amazing. I don't own it, and I'm suspicious that the FPGA and other chips he added to the cart are doing graphical processing secretly.
But if that's not the case, then this is easily the most visually impressive Genesis game ever, that had the potential to have been at least one of the best Genesis games ever.

[Anonymous No.7421347]

>>7421257
>i bet you wear neon spandex cloths and randomly shout: SHOWTIME

Do you not?

[Anonymous No.7421360]

>>7421328
>I'm suspicious that the FPGA and other chips he added to the cart are doing graphical processing secretly.
The more I read about it, it seems there were a lot of concerns that the game was finished, but couldn't run on the Genesis.
So the extra chips on the cart and their functions need to be verified.
If the game is actually doing a lot of heavy co-processing on them, then it's not really a Genesis game at all. The fact that he's so secretive about the chips is suspicious.

[Anonymous No.7421414]

>>7421360
>The fact that he's so secretive about the chips is suspicious.
It's because he doesn't want this to be cracked and emulated. Dude genuinely expects people to shell out $230 for just the game alone if they didn't preorder it back in 2017 for $70.

[Anonymous No.7421464]

there was no test anything

[Anonymous No.7421487]

this was okayed

[Anonymous No.7421494]

>>7421464
we dont speak frog

[Anonymous No.7421518]

The game looks terrible, from the design, to the colors, to the composition, to the perspective, etc... Maybe it seems like it is impressive at first because you see alot of shit going on in the screencap, but take a better look and you'll realize how terrible it is. Alot of what is going on or laying around is also confusing or indistinguishable.

[Anonymous No.7421537]

>>7421464
>frogspeak
That explains the dev's rudeness.

[Anonymous No.7421549]

>>7421518
Animations are also really, really terrible.

[Anonymous No.7421552]

>>7421218
well the dude pissed off basically everyone in the retro community so there's that

[Anonymous No.7421562]

>>7421518
>>7421487
This does look weird. The wall could theoretically be meant to be curved inward towards the center of the screen, but the lines on it should then be going towards a vanishing point higher up, and probably the side facing the player shouldn't even be visible at all (the opposite side should be).

[Anonymous No.7421576]

guise, totally not rugal
https://twitter.com/UAPGodz/status/1350588474068508673?s=20

[Anonymous No.7421586]

murdock upper totally not static submarine screw

[Anonymous No.7421590]

>>7421562
I call it the 'Secret of Evermore Effect'. It's based on / copying great games in the same style, and hits you with a wall of color and 'detail' but once you take a closer look, or someone points it out to you, you realize they didn't actually have an idea how to do things or how things work. Perspective, gameplay, hit collision, pacing, AI, difficulty, composition, characters, music, minimal story, you name it they fucked it up.

[Anonymous No.7421597]

>>>wsg/3795592

[Anonymous No.7421603]

>>>/wsg/3795592

[Anonymous No.7421604]

>>7421328
>not sure is shill or just very stupid

[Anonymous No.7421650]

>>7421604
Well, I scaled back my praise for its visuals in >>7421562
And I've never played it; I'm just going off what bits and pieces of it I've seen on YT.
Regardless, there's clearly potential there for it have been a great game.
It's unfortunate the dev was an arrogant frog hipster.

[Anonymous No.7421684]

>>7421494
>>7421537
basically VA5/6 incompatibility was discovered by the distributor, because paranoia code wasn't tested against numerous revisions by fonzo

[Anonymous No.7421712]

>>7421603
That's because they're playing it on an LCD. Fonzie specifically designed this game from the ground up to be played on an exact model of CRT and Mega Drive console not my fault you can't be assed to read the FAQ and track down the hardware he painstakingly listed for you to use then whine it doesn't work. You just don't get it man. You just, don't get it.

[Anonymous No.7421724]

>>7421712
you can't even play it with og arcade power stick, gotta use GRUND STUK TROIS

[Anonymous No.7421834]

>>7421650
On the contrary I think it's great the dev was an arrogant frog hipster. I wouldn't have all these threads full of seething shitposting to amuse me if he weren't.

[Anonymous No.7422507]

Don't talk shit about Paprium you uncultured fags

[Anonymous No.7422569]

Why are you people so obsessed with this game? You act like it's the first mediocre Genesis game.

[Anonymous No.7422580]

>>7421218
My quick Paprium review. "All mouth and no trousers".

[Anonymous No.7422645]

>>7422569
It's a new game for an old, much beloved console.

[Anonymous No.7422847]

>>7422645
A much beloved compatible console.

[Anonymous No.7422854]

>>7422645
Yeah but it sounds like its doo doo and none of you like it. So why all the attention? If this game came out in 1993, you would have rented it one weekend, finished it, and never thought about it again.

Just seems you guys could be spending this time talking about good games.

[Anonymous No.7422968]

>>7421218
Release Already.

[Anonymous No.7423015]

>>7421576

His animation is like three whole sprites.

[Anonymous No.7423061]

>>7422854
>So why all the attention?
Because of the drama behind it. Take it you didn't actually read the thread since only about 1/3 of the posts are talking about the game in how it plays instead of the meta aspects of it.

[Anonymous No.7423081]

>>7422854
>Yeah but it sounds like its doo doo and none of you like it. So why all the attention? If this game came out in 1993, you would have rented it one weekend, finished it, and never thought about it again.
I (OP) just learned about it this week.
I would have likely picked it up if 1) the gameplay was actually good (it's not, sadly), and 2) it wasn't so expensive.

[Anonymous No.7424147]

>>7422968

It's already been released anon! go over to their site and preorder a copy NOW! only for 300 bucks, quite a steal imo.

[Anonymous No.7424162]

>>7423061
>1/3 of the posts are talking about the game in how it plays
That's all that matters in the end.

[Anonymous No.7424282]

>>7424147
Pay and Dump for me please.

[Anonymous No.7424582]

3 Hours long interview of Fonzie with english subs to be released in about a week.

[Anonymous No.7424616]

>>7424582
egomania

[Anonymous No.7424619]

>>7424582
will they softball him or outright ask why he stole assets

[Anonymous No.7424654]

>>7424582
>>7424619
it's gonna be the most consensual shit ever cause these yt fuckers have no spine and want fonzo dick sucking clout.

[Anonymous No.7424658]

>>7424619
Suck him off. The homebrew scene still has this retarded mindset that it's 2010 and WM are the only ones making stuff beyond a proof of concept and if you scare them away all homebrew will be gone forever. Just look at all the reviewers immediately doing a 180 once Fonzie prioritized their copy in the mail by December not even mentioning almost everyone else had yet to see theirs.

[Anonymous No.7424709]

>>7421218
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydMLculJDIc
ya know i dont normally dig the whole retro gaym jewtube e-celeb cabal, but i got a soft spot for gamesack.
joes one of the few that i can think of that actually bothers to capture the audio and video in a way that isnt utter shite
and hes always been quick to brutalize shitty halfassed products aimed at scalping /vr/fags. even when said scalpers have tried to butter him up
the neogeo x review comes to mind, as well as that one horrendous paid rom shitshow: the evercade

good to see him give fonzie a well deserved lashing
its a shame it all had to end this way, as from the interviews ive heard with the former pier solar team, and the ones who worked on paprium, it seems hes had access to some incredibly talented individuals over the years
and he manged to alienate them ALL, with his faggotry alone
this game couldve been a lot better if he hadnt let his fucking ego get in the way of the dudes he had working for him

[Anonymous No.7424779]

>>7424582
desu if you wanna waste a couple hours listening to something related to paprium id recommend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXLtnqbeBNI
instead
my favorite part is when the guy who dumped pier solar, who was later hired to do the 68k assembly for paprium, just lays into the fonz and says his code was irredeemable, incomprehensible garbage
hilarious

fonzie is an egotistical faggot
i guarantee those 3hrs will be mostly him sucking himself off over his """"achievement""""
youd prolly be better off trying to suck yourself off for those 3hrs instead
or better yet, just go play some random beats of rage mod. youll prolly have a better time

[Anonymous No.7424802]

>>7424779
the fuking stika 180

pulls out the most balanced 2 video docs
recieves game
BEST MEGADRIVE GAME

like, have some spine.

[Anonymous No.7424867]

>>7424802
did he?
thats unfortunate
ive never seen the rest of his stuff, but that documentary was very well done, and it was enlightening to hear the rest of the dev team talk about how fucking fucked watermelons day-to-day was

[Anonymous No.7424949]

>>7424802
>>7424867
Basically he said that Paprium was better than Streets of Rage, because it looks nice...

[Anonymous No.7425163]

>>7424802
>>7424867
>>7424949

It came off to me like he was just trying to justify his purchase lmao it was right after it came out. But yeah he basically confirmed he has shit taste in jab and jogs

[Anonymous No.7425214]

>>7425163
in this moment, he was
EUPHORIC

[Anonymous No.7425238]

>>7424949
>it looks nice...

[Anonymous No.7425358]

>>7425163
Think it was less that and more him rushing out a review as fast as possible so he didn't really have time to look at the game objectively. He also probably wants to stay on Fonzie's good side now that game actually came out let it be for insider info or review copies of whatever the fuck else he has going on in the future.

[Anonymous No.7425461]

>>7425238
winrar

[Anonymous No.7425629]

S H O W T I M E

[Anonymous No.7426167]

>>7425629
Where's the dump you deep fuck?
There is no S H O W T I M E for you.

[Anonymous No.7426359]

>>7421487
The breakable glass panes on the floor in pic related look off too, as if they're standing up vertically in front of the plane the player is on rather than being a part of it.

[Anonymous No.7426365]

>>7426359
At first I thought it was because they're breakable and give way to a death pit, and that it simplified collision detection and hit boxes to have them not be diagonal, but if you look at the pic, they laid them down in a diagonal arrangement.
Isn't Fonzie's one redeeming attribute supposed to be his skills as a graphic artist?

[Anonymous No.7426427]

>>7426167
>Where's the dump

I just took a dump, and it came out less smelly than Pooprium.

[Anonymous No.7426430]

>>7425238
That was pretty much his review.

[Anonymous No.7426460]

>>7421328
you know, not to be a shill but PGMmv actually seems to be neat for people to make their own games with no coding needed and there's been some interesting projects in the makin, inknow it came out in 2018 in english, but, why not just wait for it and just making your game for PC instead of wanting to make it a new game for an old console, and just stick to the aesthetics of the game console you might want.

[Anonymous No.7426537]

>>7426167
>Where's the dump
good luck
with all the weird shit it has under the hood, its gonna be a bit before any sort of dump materializes

[Anonymous No.7426538]

>>7422854
>If this game came out in 1993, you would have rented it one weekend, finished it, and never thought about it again.
If this game came out in '93 it would be game of the year. Mediocre but working fighting mechanics would be overshadowed by the insane graphics and soundtrack. The Nintoddler fans who didn't immediately commit suicide would be running to the local funcoland SNES in hand to trade it in for a Genesis plus put money down on the sold out Paprium phenomenon that is sweeping the nation. This all of course "if" it came out in '93.

[Anonymous No.7426570]

>>7424802
He got bribed wth the Fonz $$$ and now living in a mansion with tigers and GAY strippers.

And btw, St1ka kinda shat over Xeno Crisis which is the best new Genny game BY FAR. St1ka is really a casual disguised as boomer

[Anonymous No.7426580]

>>7424616
>>7424619
>>7424654
>>7424779
Wait for the interview before judging, one of the youtuber doing it is the one who highckiked and tried to set on fire paprium ads on an earlier video :
https://youtu.be/ock91NT8-1I
they are the opposite of consensual.

[Anonymous No.7426581]

>>7426460
>why not just wait for it and just making your game for PC instead of wanting to make it a new game for an old console, and just stick to the aesthetics of the game console you might want.
autism
plain and simple
personally, i think its cool to try and push the boundaries of old systems like this. but when that push comes almost solely from stuffing a bunch of modern hardware into the cart, it becomes much less impressive imo
like, you wanna limit yourself to old hardware for the creative restrictions. sure, i can dig that
but then in order to do what you want, you have to essentially cheat and use a bunch of modern chipsets that were totally outside of the realm of possibility for devs back in the "good ol days"
and then you continually refer back to those older games in bad faith, patting yourself on the back for your stunning """achievement"""

just go take a look at a classic genny game, like thunder force 4
no fancy new-age helper-chips required. just plain-old masterful programming, both in terms of its audio and video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDpWMyZnaCM

with paprium, the end result is a very limited run game that cost far too much to produce, with the hopes that you can continually scalp more and more thirsty /vr/fags for $300+ a pop due to its exclusivity.
the irony here is that, not only would it have dramatically reduced the cost and time of developing and manufacturing, but they likely wouldve also made a shitton more money and been able to produce it MUCH quicker, if theyd just developed the game for PC and put it up for $10 on steam, or some shit like that. then it would be even easier to port to additional systems as needed, and the profits would compound.
at the very least, it would allow a ton more people to play your game
the fonz seems unconcerned with this, and instead sees only dollar signs in the short term
its hard to say if hes even self-aware enough to realize just how badly hes managed to mangle his reputation

[Anonymous No.7426604]

>>7426581
fonzo absolutely hates ports
the irony is when Pier Solar ports made money he wanted it for Pooprium instead of clearing debts and leases for the very ports.

[Anonymous No.7426610]

They also said they were mostly doing it for the international community because of your hysteria, they aren't wrong.

[Anonymous No.7426617]

>>7426581
>i like it when they "push the boundaries of old systems" in software but not hardware
I'm sure this says volumes about your relationship with your mother. Maybe not anything that can't be discerned from your blogshitposting.

[Anonymous No.7426628]

>>7426617
when they act like their brilliant software is whats pushing the boundaries and not the half dozen modern chips crammed into it, yea id say thats pretty fucking gay

go suck fonzies cock more faggot
he might give you another leather man-thong if you do a good job

[Anonymous No.7427104]

>>7421590

Secret of Evermore isn't perfect but it's better than Secret of Mana.

[Anonymous No.7427158]

>>7426628
>gay
>suck fonzies cock
>faggot
>leather man-thong
It's like you're trying to tell me something

[Anonymous No.7427791]

>>7418061
Dunno if you're in this thread but my copy arrived today and it's freaking rattling.

[Anonymous No.7427863]

>>7427791
They all rattle, time to break out the ol' gamebit screwdriver and the double sided tape!

[Anonymous No.7427874]

>>7427863
I'm gonna leave it as is to remind me to never give Fonzie my money again.

[Anonymous No.7427913]

>>7427874
Keep that fire extinguisher close by for when it shorts the cart during gameplay!

[Anonymous No.7428089]

>>7427791
>>7427863
It's such a great metaphor for Fonzie and the Paprium project.

[Anonymous No.7428142]

>>7427874
id still take it out desu
from what i saw in OPs video its a useless piece of metal that was supposed to be epoxyed over the extra chips for whatever schizo reason. fonzo apparently went to the cheap part of china to get this manufactured, go figure.

it probably wont be an issue, but if i was you id still rather not take a chance at having some loose plate of metal rattling around shorting random shit out
especially considering the retardedly high price of said game

[Anonymous No.7428145]

>>7427863
>double-sided tape
I wonder if anyone has actually done this.

[Anonymous No.7428147]

>>7428142
I ordered a gamebit screwdriver and will take it out once it arrives. Maybe I'll keep the metal plate somewhere as a reminder for how much a disaster its development and launch was.

[Anonymous No.7428153]

>>7428147
lol write
>RIP watermemeon
>too gay to live
>too gay to die

[Anonymous No.7428170]

>>7428145
I did, worked fine.

[Anonymous No.7428183]

>>7421218
I'm only interested in the thong. Anyone here wants to sell theirs?

[Anonymous No.7428187]

>>7428183
Only $500 for a one of a kind thong.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Paprium-Investors-Mega-Pack-JP-Edition-Genesis-Mega-Drive-BRAND-NEW-SEALED/224348925419?hash=item343c3cedeb:g:kb4AAOSwThxgJbyJ

[Anonymous No.7428213]

>>7428170
Why would you keep it in there though? It serves no real purpose.

[Anonymous No.7428235]

>>7428213

Because the special shitty cardboard edition I got has no real place to put it, and even though it serves no purpose I prefer to keep it where it was so I don't lose it.

[Anonymous No.7428430]

I can't believe Borat's shitty review only got 20 downvotes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trQ48SWi2WM

[Anonymous No.7428460]

>>7428235
>stuck with the "investor's" edition
I'm sorry anon. Did he ever make it clear why that version was going to be made of shit cardboard no one wanted?

[Anonymous No.7428468]

>>7428235
The box is so fucking bad man it tries so hard to look cool it loses all functionality.

[Anonymous No.7428480]

>>7428430
That's a joke, right?

[Anonymous No.7428485]

>>7428480
He's sucking Fonzie's cock to not lose any goodwill after releasing that documentary on top of that he rushed out his review to be one of the first so he probably didn't even spend much time playing it. Paprium is fine but to claim it's better than SoR is total nonsense.

[Anonymous No.7428549]

>>7428460
>Did he ever make it clear

He didn't even talk about the game, let alone the box.

[Anonymous No.7428790]

>>7428460
I don't even think it's the investor's edition in that box unless Fonzie fucked up my order. I ordered the US style clamshell when the preorders were up in 2017 and yet I still wound up with that shit cardboard box. Also got two copies of the comic for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.7428987]

reminder to disregard pooprium and pick up FIGHT N' RAGE on steam

[Anonymous No.7428997]

>>7428987
I did a couple of months ago, it's not very good

[Anonymous No.7429001]

>>7428987
Reminder to poop in my mouth mmmm dirty poopy boy yesyesyes let me chew that warm fudge mmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.7429025]

>>7428997

Nah its a good game. Not revolutionary, but definitely fun

[Anonymous No.7429049]

>>7428987
Disregard all indieshit and just stick to the classics.

[Anonymous No.7429081]

>>7429049
>>>/v/