What are some other gameboy games that surpassed their franchise's SNES iteration?

[Anonymous No.7420595]

[Anonymous No.7420605]

>>7420595
Donkey Kong GB and the mario vs donkey kong sub-franchise are better than the arcade donkey kong

[Anonymous No.7420606]

>>7420595
>SNES
cant really think of any but I can think of GB titles surpassed their NES counterparts like Metroid 2 or Super Mario Land.

[Anonymous No.7420608]

>>7420606
You don't think Land is better than 3, right?

[Anonymous No.7420610]

>>7420605
I definitely don't agree with this. But its a very interesting opinion nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.7420618]

>>7420608
I was thinking of SMB1 but
I might like Land 2 better than SMB3

[Anonymous No.7420628]

>>7420595
R-type on Gameboy is better than R-type for SNES.
Not R-type 3 though.
Seriously. Donkey Kong for Gameboy is Mario 64 tier for level movement. God damn it Donkey Kong '94 is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMHoLHDa_9U&list=PLq0qtH0OHQ2j6C2QiBVGeKEkH3KgsSidX&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTyuSJ5ZNWk&list=PLq0qtH0OHQ2j6C2QiBVGeKEkH3KgsSidX&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk5JpaO1L7o&list=PLq0qtH0OHQ2j6C2QiBVGeKEkH3KgsSidX&index=22

[Anonymous No.7420636]

>>7420628
I was surprised when I played this game, normally the Gameboy physics are terrible, but this game was different

[Anonymous No.7420646]

>>7420605
Disagree, but DK '94 is also very good
>>7420606
>like Metroid 2 or Super Mario Land
Metroid 1's better than 2. And Land isn't even in the same galaxy as SMB1, which probably has the best physics and control of any platformer, though Land 1 is the best Mario game on the Game Boy

[Anonymous No.7420648]

>>7420595
STRONG TO THE FINISH

[Anonymous No.7420653]

>>7420646
Best physics? Come on, man

[Anonymous No.7420660]

>>7420636
There's even the pre-curser to the triple jump. You do a headstand (which is a jump iteself) and jump immediately for a big boost and then jump again for the giant jump.
Also the headstand jump has 2 different jumps. If you jump immediately you get a big boost but you can also walk around on you hands with your feet in the air, this will protect you from falling items and then jump for a small boost.
Which is different from the backflip jump still.
Mario's Iconic landing with his arms out is in this game too when you do the giant jump, the same pose you see when he lands on a planet in Galaxy 1 and 2.

[Anonymous No.7420708]

>>7420653
What else would you nominate? Platformers with great physics aren't that numerous. Gimmick, Mario 3, SMW, and Mario 64 are all in the elite tier, but SMB1 and SMB2(Japan) on real hardware + CRT are the best of them

[Anonymous No.7420748]

>>7420660
The Triple Jump is a nightmare in the new super mario bros series, for whatever reason nintendo does not allow you to disable this function. Ah, not to mention that the movement is inferior to the Donkey Kong GB franchise

[Anonymous No.7420790]

>>7420595
DX is worse than ALttP, since it fucks up LA a bit. The original LA is better than ALttP, though.

[Anonymous No.7421517]

>>7420790
How so does it screw up LA?

[Anonymous No.7422581]

>>7420618
Yes, based opinion on SML2

[Anonymous No.7422612]

>>7420790
its the same shit, dont be a crybaby

[Anonymous No.7422623]

>>7420595
I can't think of many outside of Zelda.
In my opinion, FFA > Secret of Mana

[Anonymous No.7422635]

>>7420708
Not him, but SMB3 and SMW both have better physics than SMB1. And since you said "any platformer" I'd say in terms of physics the Sonic series has any Mario game beat let alone SMB1. Knuckles Chaotix, regardless of overall game quality, is my pick for best physics in any platformer. Whether it's fun or good game design is subjective, but the physics in that game are pretty impressive.

[Anonymous No.7422649]

>>7420646
i'd agree with smb but i honestly like metroid 2 more than the first. it's more focused and the sprite work is better

[Anonymous No.7422654]

>>7420790
>They changed the pedestals to be owl statues
>They added an optional dungeon
>They added the photographs
>The game isn't black and white anymore
How the fuck does this make it different enough for LttP to be in between the games in terms of quality

[Anonymous No.7422674]

>>7420790
How does DX fuck up LA?

[Anonymous No.7422690]

I wonder what pokemon would have been like on SNES

[Anonymous No.7422750]

>>7420595
super mario land, tetris

[Anonymous No.7422858]

>>7422654
They refactored some code in DX version due to changes of ROM bank map.
For example, in DX the function of using a shield is splitted into two parts, one required a bank change. Such changes may had made the game slower than original LA when running on old Gameboys.

[Anonymous No.7423408]

>>7422635
>SMB3 and SMW both have better physics
They both have top tier physics, but Mario's weight and momentum are less pronounced in those games. SMB1 does it better. Like Mario 64 with 3D, 2D Mario physics/movement peaked early and like with almost anything popular made concessions to the average awkward inept general audience as time went on

[Anonymous No.7423414]

>>7422654
You mentioned the owl statutes but didn't mention what they do. What they do is the answer to your question

[Anonymous No.7423512]

>>7423408
The character doesn't control that well. I don't care much for momentum or ...

[Anonymous No.7423518]

>>7423512
>I don't care much for momentum
Because you're an unathletic nerd with bad taste and a wooden ear for nature

[Anonymous No.7423732]

>>7422690
Probably more fun to play solo. But not near as successful.

[Anonymous No.7424786]

>>7420628
this game blew my mind after the first stage, i thought it was just a basic donkey kong stage then done.

>>7422581
>>7420618
wario>bowser for the villain, plus it had a lego stage

a fucking lego stage in mario

[Anonymous No.7424995]

>>7422649
Its definitely a lot let tedious than 1. having to farm health from enemies makes metroid 1 hard to play.

[Anonymous No.7425467]

>>7420646
>best physics
what a fucking dweeb

[Anonymous No.7427102]

bump

[Anonymous No.7427441]

>>7420595
Link's Awakening is the reason Aonuma Zelda became so pozzed after Majoras Mask so it sure as hell didnt "surpass" anything. Id expect this contrarian ass sort of take from /v/ for saying LA > ALttP

[Anonymous No.7427696]

>>7421517
>>7422612
>>7422674
>>7423414
Menus open more slowly, bosses move more slowly (even on a GBC/GBA). Everything is easier and more tedious. The photograph thing is forced. The owl statues thing is not a big deal, but is forced and does clash with the consistency of the story and art design. The whole point of the Stone Slab is that Koholint is supposed to be a cryptic and mysterious "ancient" place that you gradually discover the secrets of, and forcing the owl in there just because he was reintroduced via OoT (which had just came out at the same time DX did) feels cheesy. Most people who didn't play it first via emulation played DX first because they played OoT, as DX was released to be a tie-in with OoT, anyway, making people (ie, OoT niggers) who say it's better than the original seem even more pathetic and plebeian. It wasn't even handled by the same team that made the original LA, hence why it runs more poorly than the original gsme (see also >>7422858 for more detail). I like DX and own it on cartridge, but it's not the same experience. It's worse, and you're fooling yourself or haven't played the original if you think otherwise. Both should be played, DX second. DX is not a replacement for the original game. DX is a different game.

[Anonymous No.7427703]

>>7427441
>LA is reason Aonuma became a faggot after Majora's Mask
citation needed

[Anonymous No.7427748]

>>7420595
Definitely not pic related

[Anonymous No.7427765]

>>7427696
Slowdown is a reasonable complaint, but it's also the only reasonable complaint you gave and it's not bad enough slowdown to be a deal breaker. I really don't agree that "DX is a different game"

[Anonymous No.7427778]

>>7427765
Not slowdown. Bosses were intentionally nerfed in DX to make them easier and slower. Example is the genie in Bottle Grotto.

[Anonymous No.7427860]

>>7427696
Thanks for the informative post, anon. I have never played DX but now I am curious and might consider playing all 3 versions back-to-back (OG, DX, NS)

[Anonymous No.7428021]

>>7427696
>The photograph thing is forced
It's optional, simply don't visit the mouse for the first photo.

>The owl statues thing is not a big deal, but is forced and does clash with the consistency of the story and art design
There are owl statues all over the island, why not in the dungeons?

>>7427860
Funnily enough the Switch version is probably the slowest.

[Anonymous No.7428031]

>>7428021
I saw LINK awakening gameplay and the dungeons seem to be inferior to other nintendo games.

[Anonymous No.7428049]

>>7420595
Not SNES but I think pic related should count.

[Anonymous No.7428301]

>>7427860
You're welcome, and good choice anon! I might space them out a bit, if I were you, though. Each game will feel a grander experience and not monotonous if each is given its proper space.

>>7428021
>It's optional, simply don't visit the mouse for the first photo.
I'm aware, but that doesn't change it's garishness. I actually like it, by the way, but it's not an advantage over the original. It makes for a different experience, like remakes typically do ( and no, I'm not calling DX a remake).
>There are owl statues all over the island, why not in the dungeons?
Because that's not part of the lore. The dungeons predate the owl. The owl statues were added by the owl.

>>7428031
Its dungeons are easier than the three games from before it, but they're more concisely and intuitively designed than even ALttP's.

[Anonymous No.7428492]

Metroid 2 is my favorite Metroid

[Anonymous No.7431026]

>>7428301
>The dungeons predate the owl
How can they predate the owl if they're part of the Wind Fish's dream and the owl is actually the Wind Fish?