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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last Thread >>7400628

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~


(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)

Same thing, in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0 [Embed]

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
More /vr/ shooters
Doom Shovelware
Fileplanet archives
Doom RPG series
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):


Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/







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=== NEWS ===
[2-10] Retroquad 2.0 test build released for patreons and paypal, more info on twitter https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1358587176813002756

[2-10] DF Retro streams Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 with Technical feedback and retro pc

[2-10] Temporal Tantrum updated, a reunion wad made by four authors from 2048 units of /vr/. 14 MBF-compatible maps with multiple themes and custom enemies

[2-9] PrBoom-Plus 2.6 um released:

[2-9] 500ml of /vr/ updated to 5.0

[2-8] TrenchBroom 2021.1-RC3

[2-7] Jehar and Tatsyspleen brewing a Multi quake challenge

[2-7] Retroquad has finally a Patreon, also the guy put an email for contact

[2-7] https://www.moddb.com/mods/macenwolf/news/hitlers-graveyard
Another macwolf mod released for the macenwolf port
also it has some unique textures

[2-6] Plutonia Revisited 2 announced. Is an open community project

[2-4] Upscale Anon Releases faithful 2x upscaled textures of Quake 2 Oblivion

[2-3] Wolfenstein themed Doom II mod Todesfaust released

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>> No.7405230

what is the most underrated texture?

>> No.7405241
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Is there any method to export the animation data from .QAV files to a more usable image format?

>> No.7405242
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>> No.7405250

Can someone help me into Ter Shittboleth for Quake?

I can't seem to install it correctly.

>> No.7405254
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>> No.7405256

Tell me your troubles

>> No.7405258

>Robust versatility
>Epic red stripe
>Tall and Gray

>> No.7405260

>schizo wants problem
>let great thingmaps yeah
>server cool help
>anon warrior
>fps wads makes play better
>lower furry fire
>quake guy ass done left

>> No.7405264
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>unique Kegan high posted far

>> No.7405271
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It's cheating but it's too accurate to pass up.

>> No.7405282

That skull shaped computer with the wires and shit running in and out of it or the Icon of Sin itself

>> No.7405283
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>butthurt happened
>stupid unreal levels
>based plutonia
>office fucker revae
>retarded racist shame

>> No.7405291
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Hear the wisdom of the SLIP CHIMP

>> No.7405292
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>> No.7405295

>maybe makes play better
An apt description of any gameplay altering WAD I've ever played.

>> No.7405297

>general wang big enemies

>> No.7405303
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KEK based and saved

>> No.7405313
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Fabino is such a mixed bag, honestly.

>> No.7405318
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>office fucker revae

>> No.7405329
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>ion looking golden
>half reload top epic dude
>fun engine made, makes play better
>anon warrior bit meth
>retard disdain
>caffeine uploaded
>drugs shooter schizo

>> No.7405332

is there a guide on how to make a "plutonia" map

>> No.7405335
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>> No.7405341

is this canon?

>> No.7405342

Gianni is a hard worker.

>> No.7405347

you know he knows every single variable in that shitshow

>> No.7405348

WAtch a playthrough or bust open the iwad in SLADE/doom builder. Though nothing beats actually playing it yourself. Pop open Plutonia 2 as well if you wanna.
Note that you don't have to emulate Plutonia's flavor of combat and ball torture either.

>> No.7405352

>Note that you don't have to emulate Plutonia's flavor of combat and ball torture either
what's the purpose then?
I want to participate in hffm

>> No.7405353

Hey, how was this here image made, anyway? MS paint, paint.net, or something else?

>> No.7405356

I used this: https://catalog.neet.tv/harlequin.html

>> No.7405357

Is this actually a bunch of lines of code from Build Engine?

>> No.7405358

Is there any reason for not using FTEQW for singleplayer mods and maps? I can make it look pretty much identical to Quakespasm and it seems to run the retard huge maps a lot better.

>> No.7405360

Replied to you in the old thread

>> No.7405362

It's photoshopped.

>> No.7405363

>yes faggot used ammo
What a filthy casual ;^)

>> No.7405369

But that's a gorilla

>> No.7405376

Invariably. No Pun Int Ended

>> No.7405379
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NEW WALLPAPER! I realize the resolution is weird, but I didn't want to resize it beyond the necessary cropping.

>> No.7405381

is the map hard?
is the map fast?
are you and/or the map a faggot?
there you go

>> No.7405385

Only the Quake 1 community could possibly get this many trannies in one place

>> No.7405386

>Upon opening VS, the engine source felt unwelcoming with difficult filenames (a.c, cache1d.c). Opening those files reveals something hostile to the eyes and the mind. An example among many others from Engine.c (line 693):

if ((globalorientation&0x10) > 0) globalx1 = -globalx1, globaly1 = -globaly1, globalxpanning = -globalxpanning;
if ((globalorientation&0x20) > 0) globalx2 = -globalx2, globaly2 = -globaly2, globalypanning = -globalypanning;
globalx1 <<= globalxshift; globaly1 <<= globalxshift;
globalx2 <<= globalyshift; globaly2 <<= globalyshift;
globalxpanning <<= globalxshift; globalypanning <<= globalyshift;
globalxpanning += (((long)sec->ceilingxpanning)<<24);
globalypanning += (((long)sec->ceilingypanning)<<24);
globaly1 = (-globalx1-globaly1)*halfxdimen;
globalx2 = (globalx2-globaly2)*halfxdimen;

>> No.7405387

Make a train map with everything scrolling around really fast

The train is a dick, you see

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You can absolutely make a hard faggoty fast map without making it Plutonia like. In any case, I tried to make mine similar.

Speaking of, respond here with any finished maps.
I've got
>faggot single finish
>somewhat possible
>temple of flesh
already. Going to drop NMN3_v6 later tonight. Here are the current texture additions, sans moonsand/moonrock. If you authored the above maps, and they're finished, I'm going to integrate NMN3 into each one and reupload them.

>> No.7405396

what in the fuck of god am I looking at

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>> No.7405428

I don't get it. Is the code bad or is it not indented properly or whatever

>> No.7405429


Ken's engine is a hack with more hacks bolted on. It's documented pretty well there.

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Both. Required reading for Ken and Build:
>...Everything with this system was going fine until we discovered that Ken has some engine flaws in dealing with sprites that use origin based centering. The clipmove() function doesn't work, and neither does hitscan(). These two functions are pretty much essential to doing anything with the engine. I could rewrite them, of course, but that would be a few days to weeks out of our schedule, depending on how many more bugs and design problems crawl out of the woodwork.

>We had waited a few months before switching to the new origin based centering, so I was quite surprised to find such fundamental problems with it. We called up Ken and told him about it, and he said he didn't think anyone was using it, but he really didn't know. We asked him to fix it.

>Tonight I called up Ken because of the group file problems, and because we still don't have a fix for the clipmove() or hitscan() problems. Ken he wasn't going to fix it and we should go back to using the old centering mode. This is totally and completely unacceptable. We've already invested time and effort (need I say money?) into using something, and we're not about to waste more regressing.

>Ken understands algorithms, and he understands graphics. What he doesn't get is how to design SYSTEMS. Everything he does to the engine is a piecemeal enhancement to something that should have been designed right from the beginning. The memory system is a poignant example of this. It is a hack, like most of his code, and not very robust. From what I've disassembled of the group file code (trying to figure out a way to eliminate or replace it), it too demonstrates plentiful opportunities for crashing the system -- pointers being freed without validation, files being closed without verifying the handle, etc.

>> No.7405530

Interesting, thanks

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>> No.7405593

Damn, one thing I would never expect to see in Doom is non-euclidean geometry. Been playing a map from 2048 units of /vr/ called "Lobachevsky Overdrive", and there is kinda-circular hallway which clearly ignores the laws of metric spaces. Normally, you would walk in circles around the same room, but this hallway takes you to another place. This must be some clever trick like portals or something but it's really smooth.

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>> No.7405604

Oh yeah, and after a quick google, the title is clearly a reference: https://encyclopediaofmath.org/wiki/Lobachevskii_geometry

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>hacx mods

Speaking of, I don't know if it was posted at the time but last summer there was a HACX AI GFX Overhaul which was a complete revision of the original textures using various neural upscaling techniques and manual photoshop. It makes the game look really good.

>> No.7405610

The Boom format has access to silent, instantaneous teleports which are great for this kind of thing (and fake room over room stuff too).

>> No.7405615

Someday I'll make a game using Build2...

>> No.7405618


>> No.7405634
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Which version? If the original, the maps go into your id1/maps folder. Drake Redux? That version comes with Drake mod, so you just stick it into your Quake directory instead of within id1. I strongly recommend adding -heapsize 1536000 to the command line, or it may not run at all.

>> No.7405639

Never tried configuring it for SP. I'll give it a shot myself and get back to you.

>> No.7405640

Has anything been made from the Build 2 engine?

>> No.7405646

This, which is why if the whole automap is hidden in a Boom map it's a dead giveaway that you'll be seeing some non-euclidean shapes.

See MAP07 in the new beta of Temporal Tantrum for another bit of wacky geometry.


>> No.7405668

Just tech demos.
I guess you have to code much of it from scratch. Save/load system doesn't exist by default, no transparency, though that's mentioned in the release, no model support (but who gives a shit, sprites/voxels would be the way to go for this engine).
Not sure if it comes with anything for the AI out of the box. It's mostly a neat rendering engine and dev kit.

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Wow you fucked that link up

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>> No.7405724

Fuck off, Alf.

>> No.7405726

Very interesting, but I'm way too used to how vkQuake/Quakespasm handles interpolation, and I really dislike how it handles color. Quite a nice interface though with all your mods in the main menu UI.

>> No.7405730
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That's an actual KinoFabino tweet from today:

>> No.7405734 [DELETED] 

Yeah I know. Fuck off, Alf.

>> No.7405738

What makes you think Duke Nukem wearing an Alf (the tv show) shirt makes me Alf?

>> No.7405746

it's bait and you're taking it

>> No.7405747
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It's a dog whistle.

>> No.7405748

Wait a fucking minute.
Duke has never used a revolver in his fucking life.
What the fuck is he doing with one in his boxart?

>> No.7405749

So, we find alftranny's twitter at last...

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Fabino DOES lurk here

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will kegan go insane again and overhaul the heroes in gmota when samson gets added?

>> No.7405764

Yes he will.

>> No.7405769

>ywn be in an accountability group with Duke.

>> No.7405786

Are there any mods for Doom that like add in all the weapons from classic FPS, like Duke, Shadow Warrior, Blood etc all in one mod?

>> No.7405789


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Cool, thanks!

>> No.7405831

Isn't that the guy who puts watermarks on reddit & /vr/ memes?

>> No.7405835

Ah fuck. Well there's a link in the news post anyway, but let's try again:


>> No.7405838

Samsara plus some third party mods for it for a few characters Term didn't add.

>> No.7405840

Not as far as I know, he makes them. But it's possible, any desuarchive or warosu links of memes he has tweeted with a watermark getting posted here first?

>> No.7405847

He makes them and they get reuploaded. This place has actually taken his watermarks off of his memes, which is hilarious in my opinion.

>> No.7405857

why is wang clinging to the outside of the bus.

>> No.7405861

He's standing beside the bus watching longingly and "washing wang" from the bus stop outside as The KING gets the ladies.

>> No.7405867

>techbase metals
>new teleporter

>> No.7405870

i mean, if dukes stop is coming up presumably the bus is in motion, wang has to be clinging to it like spiderman.
i can't imagine it any other way.

>> No.7405886

Does Shadow Warrior have a mod that is THE mod, kind of like Blood has with Deathwish? I have played the main game and the expansions and I need more.

Also any Shadow Warrior Doom TCs?

>> No.7405894
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>getting mappers block for my HFFM entry
I need some ideas but I don't know what to do

>> No.7405898

quake guy image, thanks

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It's in the name man. Don't think too hard. Here, have some freebies:
>Dead Simple, but the player starts in the center
>Large room filled with elevators up to the ceiling, each elevator houses an enemy or two. Elevators will descend at different speeds based on triggers and such. Center elevator has a cyberdemon in it, and it continuously lowers as soon as you enter the room, putting pressure on the player to deal with the other enemies before it reveals itself
>Hell In The Cell: Player is put in a cage match with various demons of progressing difficulty
Think like Sandy Petersen

>> No.7405909

>Dead Simple, but the player starts in the center
isn't this just scythe's dead simple?

>> No.7405918

Make the floor lava.

>> No.7405920
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I don't think there is an equivalent to Death Wish for Shadow Warrior but I could be wrong on that. More knowledgeable SWanons here will know.

There was a Shadow Warrior TC though, and it's pretty cool.

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>> No.7405932

It's been done a number of times since it's kind of an obvious spin on it.

>> No.7405947

Was it better?

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>> No.7405968

Look at the CTF maps with grapple hooks, and guess how the architecture can be made accessible to disabled floor-bound doomguys. Cliff edge teleports is one of the solutions.

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>> No.7405979
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at least one more month in the oven and maybe it could have been better than what we got

>> No.7405987

I love Scythe because it's very fast and doesn't make me explore too much, just throws me from fight to fight and it's what my brain craves. What are some other mapsets in this style?

>> No.7405994


meant to respond to the 32x vid fuck

>> No.7405998

There is Lo Wang in Time which is a seven map single player mod and comes with some multiplayer maps too

>> No.7406001

Yeah moddb has a ton of shit, a metric fuckton. Bless all those fuckers who upload obscure shit form forever ago.

>> No.7406013

At lest it's not one of the places liable to suffer ZDoom asshat forum moderator sabotage.

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And I am glad they have, a lot of it is shit but there are always gems to be found for pretty much every old FPS.

Unfortunately there is nothing of the scope of Death Wish for Shadow Warrior that I am aware of. I wish Bloatoid that made Death Wish would start a Shadow Warrior project. It'd be awesome.

>> No.7406018

>implying that can of sugar will quench my thirst for long

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>implying that can of sugar will quench my thirst for long

>> No.7406035

>implying that can of aspartame will quench my thirst for long

>> No.7406042

more like YUH

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>> No.7406049

If you're going for Scythe length, you really only need one idea. Or, if you want to go full Casali, just try to remake IWAD areas from memory (this will make them similar but not identical) and then make them way harder.

>> No.7406128

check out this website

>> No.7406140

False alarm, running HACX as a PWAD in Choc Doom isn't the answer, it just replaces the textures in normal Doom maps (brokenly, it's not intended behavior). I conclude that HACX should be run as an IWAD in Choc Doom. I hope I didn't steer anon wrong.
I tested the room in map 2 I thought was broken, in GZDoom this time, and it seems like it works as intended, and it is intended for co-op only. Does anyone know how to handle this room? Are solo players always softlocked?

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Forgot pic because of course.

>> No.7406161

>playing HACX
What's next?
Saying you enjoyed shovelware like Perdition's Gate, The Lost Episodes of Doom or Hell To Pay?

>> No.7406165

What's wrong with Hell To Pay?

>> No.7406172

If you're going to talk shit, at least give me my (you), baka.

>> No.7406176

What's wrong with Perdition's Gate?

>> No.7406183

In Duke you can drink water to regain health. SW beat training dummy, can even get to 200 health if your health is 100+. Redneck Rampage has Yeehaw button. What is Blood's equivalent?

>> No.7406190

hacx is good though, it just suffered from getting left in the dust by quake

>> No.7406194
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It's nothing particularly quirky like the others, but it is worth mentioning that Blood is one of the first to have select enemies drop health on death.

>> No.7406197

Killing Innocents

>> No.7406203

>yeehaw button
Wait what?

>> No.7406207

>see this gif everywhere for years
>finally play through blood
>no silly cultist tower enemy that breaks into 3 cultists when shot

I haven't played anything else beyond the first quarter of DeathWish, I assume this was just a cute idea and nothing more?

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Yeah just a fun gif I think

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Bummer, oh well.

>> No.7406217

That's more of a
I need to find time for 500ml, fuck me.

>> No.7406218

You can yell Yeehaw every few seconds in RR to gain 1 health

>> No.7406220

You have enough for one level, get going cruo

>> No.7406225

That sounds like a great way to get sick of it.
>low hp
>sit in corner

>> No.7406228

Doesn't happen because RR already gives you shitload of on command health supplies, it's just one detail they added

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It will always be there for you, anon

>> No.7406269

This is old news, but what is it about Build games that made them so much better suited for emulating real-world-ish environments, moreso than idtech1? What components are at play? Genuinely curious if it's just a precedent set by the games they came from or if there is more going on.

>> No.7406284

Different limits. Doom can look like whatever it wants now.

>> No.7406285

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it has better support for actual 3d. In doom's 2.5d, you can't make a room below or above other room, it build engine this is possible.

>> No.7406286

(Not that anon)
I think a lot of it's precedent, Tom Hall era Doom aimed to have more realistic environments, Romero was kind of in the middle, and then Sandy went almost full abstract. You don't see stuff like destructible setpieces until HACX. A few mods have good real locations, it's just not a priority most of the time.
Vertical aiming also changes things up, of course.
I think the lighting is also a factor though. I'm kind of hung up on the Build lighting in GZDoom because it illustrates that Doom just isn't lit the same way. I don't have enough experience with Build to say more than that though.

>> No.7406294

lunatic preacher valiant, in that order, because it's arranged from shortest to longest (5, 10, 32 levels respectively)

>> No.7406301

does scythe 2 also have the brutal difficulty spike in act 3? I got pretty burnt out after beating 1

>> No.7406309

No one mentioned this, I suppose because none of them messed with the Build editor before, but you can lay down sprites like say a playboy magazine on the ground. You can lay flat 2D sprites on the ground or on the walls as posters, and you can make things like bouncing pool balls on a pool table as well, or pens in a cupholder, etc.

>> No.7406316

oh absolutely yes and it's even harder, but that's episode six. scythe 2 has 6 five-map-long episodes rather than 3 ten-map episodes. you dont have to play episode six on UV, though.

>> No.7406321

Anyone got a download for specifically Blood's FMV files?
Setting up nBlood and just realized the copy of Blood I've downloaded doesn't seem to have any of em, can't find them in any other hosted downloads either.

>> No.7406326

>you dont have to play episode six on UV, though.
if I don't /vr/ will call me a pussy, so obviously it's mandatory

>> No.7406334

This fucks me up sometimes.
>want to finish game
>refuse to turn difficulty down

>> No.7406335
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I think another one is the setting. The later idtech1 games look great, they're also fantasy/scifi as opposed to how realistic something like Duke is at the start. They're also missing all the neat things in build everyone's mentioned, of course.

>> No.7406336

Any time I've played a wad that tries to do build-like elements, it has fallen flat for me. Maybe it's mindset or I haven't checked out the right wads, I don't browse zdf to see what neat heavily modded stuff there is so I guess there's that.
Any wads that will BTFO my opinion?

>> No.7406351

That skull looks exactly like a weapon from Fury3 that shoots stars in a star pattern, but not quite as fast as that webm.

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>> No.7406365
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IMO that map isn't the best example of Strife looking good. I know Veteran edition is cheating but compare that to this.
Am I a pleb and your pic is good map design? I found HACX more polished than Strife, although Strife obviously had more features, whereas HACX barely escapes being a Doom TC.
>hud for ants

>> No.7406369
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Yeah I agree. One map comes to my mind called Comatose IIRC, was made by Russian or a Polish guy that features a complete city in Doom engine. It's like ass compared to Build maps desu

>> No.7406371

That's awesome for id1, but maybe that's your point.

>> No.7406373

Oh I've played that one, the Silent Hill type one with all-specter type enemies? That part pissed me off a bit, don't think I played much of it though. Had a toaster at the time. I'll check it out.

>> No.7406375

Not just the difficulty spike, but the slaughtershit after it.

>> No.7406379

Dude the brutal step up happens in episode five. First two maps have ridiculous ammo starvation. Third map starts using masses of enemies like a ledge from Sunder.

>> No.7406380
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>Am I a pleb and your pic is good map design?
I was just grabbing any pic of Strife that looks decent. The point is more that idtech1 games were also capable of creating believable environments that got the point across, just not with all the features and nuances that helped out Build.

>> No.7406392

>Faggot Single Finish
>Somewhat Possible
>Temple Of Flesh
Any other hardass HFFM maps out there that need playtesting? Post screens of your WIPs.

>> No.7406431

Probably keep 500ml on there a little longer

>> No.7406705

This better be dedicated to Aniki

>> No.7406709


>> No.7406719

500 mil's first episode reminds me of escaping from that inn in Call of Cthulhu

>> No.7406738

Both are based on/inspired by Shadow Over Innsmouth

>> No.7406761

There's a pretty decent Quake map from 97 based on it as well

>> No.7406779

there is absolutely no reason, anon, don't

>> No.7406797

What's wrong with The Lost Episodes?

>> No.7406816

WADs that you wish you could put on your top 5/10, but can't due to whatever reason?
For me
>Scythe 1.
I think the final episode is great fun, with Fire and Ice being among my favourite maps of all time. But the first episode in its entirety is honestly forgettable, and features one of the worst dead simple clones I've ever played. The second episode is a huge improvement, but still has a couple forgettable maps in the early half, too.

>> No.7406825

Perdition's Gate actually starts off pretty strong.

>> No.7406871

for easing a player in it works wonders, although that dead simple clone is absolute dogshit
I liked some of the final episode, the tense ammo management in the first few levels, the one that makes the mastermind actually a threat for a short bit, and the penultimate level are great but the rest dissolve into a blur of cyberdemons and slaughtermap hordes
fire and ice is an exhausting slog through 20 cyberdemons and infinite trash, the layout is servicable for what it is but I can't imagine it being a favorite of all time

>> No.7406912

Perdition's Gate is mostly decent at first, but it just totally goes to shit with the last third.

>> No.7406926

We wanted an Aniki HUDface, but I don't think anyone of us has the talent or patience to make one (unless we do it really cheap and 90s like with just cropped photos and shit), so instead someone is putting a big handlebar moustache on Doomguy's existing face.
We'll figure something out, perhaps he can be on the intermission screens.

>> No.7406928

He has plenty of 3D models that could be used for reference.

>> No.7406929
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It is, but newsposter can't keep up. This was the latest image.

>> No.7406931

I did not know that. Does anyone know how to play around with those and capture his face and stuff?

>> No.7406934
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I have no idea, but I do know specifically that a couple were ported into Serious Sam Fusion.

>> No.7406939 [DELETED] 

Reminder that unless you change the name of your project, apologize in the credits screen of the wad itself and donate at least a three-digit sum to trans charities, I am gonna make sure that your entire awful site will be completely excommunicated from the Doom community at large and all your projects will be purged from /idgames. This is for your own good.

>> No.7406942

Fuck off, we caught you last time.

>> No.7406945

>Replying to bait
You're as bad as he is you fucking chump.

>> No.7406949 [DELETED] 

>being a decent human being is bait
Whatever, chud. Trump lost.

>> No.7406975

Just finished Doom and Doom 2 on ultraviolence. Are there any megawads that come close to Romero and McGee's designs? I really like the intricately built levels with lots of secrets and architectural complexity and don't really dig the Petersonesque arenas and gimmicks with shittons of enemies. My favorite Doom 2 maps are probably Circle of Death, The Abandoned Mines and The Inmost Dens.
Or should I just move on to Doom 64 and other oldschool shooters on my list?

>> No.7406979

Doom The Way id Did
Doom II The Way id Did

>> No.7406981

Although Romero's secrets tend to be total bullshit and Peterson's secrets make a lot more sense. Didn't mean to shit on the guy too much.

>> No.7406990

I played these a while back. While they're good they're nothing like how id did, the maps are like 3x bigger than actual doom maps

>> No.7406998

Phoneposting scumbag humbly requesting someone talented in texturing software to try re-orienting flat >pic_related
A metallic surface version would be greatly appreciated too

>> No.7407002

Thanks so much, this looks amazing.
How are Plutonia and TNT in terms of gameplay? Are they more on the hardcore challenge side with lackluster levels? I seem to be really fond of all the secret hunting, exploring for keys and maze-like stuff (when it's done right) and kinda find Doom boring without that.

>> No.7407003

I am curious myself, where it comes from even.

>> No.7407005 [DELETED] 
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Aliens Eradication TC 2021 is now available

New Changes

Added ALT fire “Burst shot” to SHOTGUN that fires 3 shells in quick succession.
Added an adrenaline speed boost that last for 30 seconds and then recharges after a short time. This was added to compensate for the slower player speed in the mod. Some doom platforming
in various wads was impossible with this slower movement speed. This feature will help with wads that disable jumping allowing the player to use speed and possibly strafe running to
traverse these sections. It can also help with nukage areas and to help in particularly hard fights.
Rebalanced boss level (ERADICATION MAPSET) for all classes. The challenge was too much and felt cheap.
More balancing for iwad/pwad item placements and amounts.
Human enemies have a burning death animation when killed with fire.
Player can run while reloading from iron sights. Previously, player speed would remain reduced until reload finished.
Weapons revert to normal sights after reloading from iron sights. Pressing the iron sights key during reload animation will return to iron sights after reloading.

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>> No.7407046

I think it would probably be easier to just draw that thing onto an existing flat rather than working that photo into the game.

>> No.7407058

>a 3 digit sum
Okay, here's a transfer of 0.01$ to a random LGBT extortion racket - have fun loosing at least 0.04$ from the provision fees, mr. ballchopper...

>> No.7407075

-> >>7406929

>> No.7407080
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c'mon now

>> No.7407083

It's the ultimate admission of failure as a mapper.

>> No.7407109

No, that would be making a 'throwback FPS' and then having procedurally generated levels instead of actually designing any.

An arrow telling you where to go is kind of embarrassing, but hardly ruins a map.

>> No.7407123
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God, those are the worst. Generated levels are always bland and boring.

>> No.7407149
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Some dirt & rock textures would be nice. Preferably ones that fit in with the rest of the texture pack, because it's really limited with what's already in Doom 2.

>> No.7407154

Among the things they used for graphics, books of photographs were one of those things, used to make things like sky textures and flats.

I figure some photographer took some pics of some industrial stuff around his area, and he sold/licensed the photo and the rights to whoever was publishing that resource book. Adrian pages through said book at some point, and scans the stuff he finds useful for use with Doom.
Who knows exactly where those valves come from originally, you'd have to track down the photographer somehow to find out for sure, and depending on how much Adrian altered the picture to create the texture, it may not be easily recognizable, the valves themselves could have been cropped from the original photo and put on a base texture Adrian made or sourced from elsewhere.

>> No.7407161
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I'm setting up Duke Nukem 3D for the first time (using a pirated Megaton edition with eDuke32) and everythink works nicely straight away, but the music and effects sound awfully compressed and crap. Definitely worse than Doom. I'm trying to download the Roland SC-55 .ogg files like I did for Doom, but have no idea where to set them up.
Any help greatly appreciated.

>> No.7407170

Unrelated to what you are asking, but make sure you select the option to use Duke's original lines/recordings. The new ones sound awful by comparison.

>> No.7407176

The new ones are in World tour not Megaton

>> No.7407178

Damn, that anon bastard is gonna pay for shooting up my post.

>> No.7407243

That's not having a mapper beyond having somebody knock out some chunks.

Having an arrow is you admitting you can't make the map flow in any meaningful way that might be intuitive to the player, and you've absolutely given up trying to even look like you can recover it.

>> No.7407262

that texture has dithering artifact in it.

How it would be to make HACX sequel on Q2 idtech 2 engine as the devs wanted? Lazarus would be used a lot to add stuff like vehicles and so on.

>> No.7407286
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What's the best way to play Serious Sam nowadays? I've heard mixed things about Revolution.

>> No.7407287

What's the deadline?

>> No.7407290

Just play them regularly? Are you getting an error that way?

>> No.7407294

I'm just a little overwhelmed by the options here and I don't know if there are any gameplay differences I might not notice since I'm not that familiar with these games. Like I know that SS3 has balance changes in Fusion, maybe TFE and TSE have something similar.

>> No.7407296

March 7, for now. We'll see what we'll have done by then, nothing is really set in stone.

>> No.7407305

TFE and TSE just boils down to "do you want HD graphics or not?" Though playing them in fusion gives you the convenience of playing them all in once game.

>> No.7407318

HD buffs the minigun to have perfect accuracy and lower ammo consumption, and it lacks the gravity gimmicks of the original games. Other than that they're identical.

>> No.7407320

Make sure you compile a list of credits for where these textures are sourced from, btw.

>> No.7407324

No, see they are AT a designated stop (the one Wang is at but his is distracted by the spectacle inside) and taking on/disembarking passengers, Duke is thinking "SHIT, my stop is the next one and these bitches won't get off me."

The Alf shirt is a dog whistle to Alf and the Golden Age of FPS.

>> No.7407330

I actually think it takes the whole "easing in the player" thing too far. It sends a very different first impression to what it becomes later on, which can be very alienating for some people, and a very slow start for others.

>> No.7407356

MARBFT05 is a flat which is 128x128, this will not render properly in PrBoom+, it only supports 64x64 flats. Also still missing the MESSAGES texture.

I like a lot of the new additions.

>> No.7407375

There is a room that requires Coop to progress through but it shouldn't softlock you, just don't go that way in solo play.

The maps are the weakest point of HACX, something one of the devs and playtestees Rich "Dr. Nostromo" Johnson fully acknowledges. The game was rushed and the last quarter or so of maps especially were essentially thrown together and speedmapped to make the release date.

>> No.7407419

DTWID definitely had a few maps that were a bit longer than Doom's, yeah. Especially E1.
I think D2TWID's map lengths were pretty on par with Doom 2, though.

>> No.7407428

kek, he should also have his cat named Nigger with him

>> No.7407443

His cat wasn't named Nigger, it was named Niggerman, get it right.

>> No.7407445

Oh yeah! Niggerman. I actually like that even better.

>> No.7407476

I feel like after HFFM we should make a shitpost megawad based on these images

>> No.7407479

I'm surprised the Hacx guy wasn't at least put in Samsara; at least I never found an addon for him.

>> No.7407483

An anon posted his Build GDX Blood mouse aim settings a few threads ago. I am trying to go back through the archives and find the screenshot he posted but no luck. If you're around, can you post it now please?

>> No.7407485
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Yeah, he definitely deserves a place in Samsara, especially considering how bottom of the barrel obscure some of the additions ended up being.

>> No.7407487

I genuinely had never heard of some of the characters people added in, but it was fun to play as them. I never found an addon for James Bond or Joanna Dark and that always disappointed me.

>> No.7407498

Then don't do that.

>> No.7407508

But I like the way the shadows look, and multiplayer mapmaking sounds fun.

>> No.7407517
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I really want to see a /vr/ Shadow Warrior project. Not sure if mapping for Shadow Warrior is as doable as it was for Blood but I think it'd be great. Has a Duke community project even been done?

>> No.7407518
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just remember that you are doing it to yourself

>> No.7407526

btw, since Metroid prime is now retro
what happened to that guy upgrading Dreadnought with spram's sprites and other shit like doors and so on?

that mod was promising, though he went on to add 3d arm canons.

>> No.7407575

This has always one of my favorite maps to test gameplay mods on.
Is that arrow even needed? It's not like Downtown where you have all these other places you can go to.

>> No.7407590 [DELETED] 

Not retro

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>> No.7407612
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>> No.7407627

2 in the middle must match and 2 on the sides must be different. Classic Duke puzzle.

>> No.7407639
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there was something written there to the right of the switches behind a grate but I never managed to get there

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>> No.7407660

I suppose Build mapping in general is difficult. Only three people have actually contributed to 500ml, and more than half the maps were made by the project lead who has some experience with Build mapping.
The learning curve is steep, and Shadow Warrior is probably even more niche than Blood.

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>> No.7407671

If you had a small group of skilled modders U don't think making HACX 2.0 in Q2 engine would be too difficult

>> No.7407674

daily reminder that Quake OST is fucking awful and is only overhyped by music illiterates and NIN fans

>> No.7407675

What makes it so much more difficult than Doom mapping? I know there isn't as many tools as there are for Doom, but again, why? Not like Build FPS weren't insanely popular. Is it because of Ken's hacked together code?

>> No.7407679

The tools suck ass, that's about it.

>> No.7407682

I'm wiling to learn if you help me

>> No.7407683

The tools are clunky and antiquated.

>> No.7407685

How long do we have left for submission? Work has been killing me and I haven't been able to start my map other than some draft work.

>> No.7407689

*I don't think

>> No.7407690

3 weeks and some change.

>> No.7407695

I want to make a short map, but not sure how short should it be.

>> No.7407698

Mapedit takes a lot of time and effort to get used to. I guess you might be predisposed to learn it if you're a Vim enthusiast or an Emacs enjoyer

>> No.7407707
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The man behind the excellent Quake 2 soundtrack, Sonic Mayhem, made his own alternate soundtrack to Quake 1. He sent this in to Romero which is what landed him the job doing the sequels OST.

You can listen to it here:

You can find it on Quaddicted and replace the games official soundtrack to this one to get the actual experience.

>> No.7407712

Why doesn't anyone make new and better tools?

>> No.7407714

Cool, but original ambient is cooler.

>> No.7407716
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holy shit, didn't know about that
thanks based anon

>> No.7407719

>I'm wiling to learn if you help me
It would be cool if Blood anon maybe did a text doc with some tip and tricks. Idk it could be in the mega in OP *question mark*

>> No.7407725

The anons making 500ml were haning out in a Discord when working on it. It was linked in the OP when it was still the current project. I don't know if they are still in there but I would ask them

>> No.7407726

build is not popular
there, I said it, come at me

>> No.7407728

I could record some videos while learning

>> No.7407731


>> No.7407734

What does Build do that GZDoom can't?

>> No.7407736
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>KING is not popular
Blow it out yer ass

>> No.7407742

proper voxels?

>> No.7407743
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It's Build.

>> No.7407776

I wonder how far behind Odamax is compared to both GZDoom, Zdeamon and Zandronum?

>> No.7407778

I'm no expert but it seems like it might easier to recreate SW in GZed and map around that. However as this >>7406269 anon pointed out and I agree, judging by some of the clips and screen shots people post in Build games there really is something to the way environments look that I haven't seen replicated in the GZ. there are maps that use Duke textures and stuff and it just doesn't look the same. Don't know why, again not an expert

>> No.7407787
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What is Caleb into?

>> No.7407789
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>Engine and hack are the same thing

>> No.7407798

People converted Build maps to Doom before you can judge the differences there if you care about it

>> No.7407812

The entire thing is hacked together according to Peter Freese of the Blood team himself, a veteran programmer.


>> No.7407835
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Where is pic related from?

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>implying there is anything out of the ordinary here

>> No.7407861

Why is there no "so you want to play some fucking blood" image when it's basically become the second most talked about game in these threads?

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Guys, go play Time Tripper, now

>> No.7407872

what are the enemies like?

>> No.7407880

No clue.

>> No.7407883

Right on thanks, I'll dick around with some of that stuff

>> No.7407887

Not as much custom content. Though there is probably enough to throw together a small one, the official expansions could also be covered in it. With all that, and stuff like Deathwish and lots of other custom maps it could be done. There is only one custom weapon mod which adds in weapons from Shadow Warrior. I don't know if there are any custom monster mods.

>> No.7407892

Fine, let's do it. I'm iced in anyway. (Of course my boss wanted me to drive in this shit, no can do today chief)

Wasn't this made by a furry?

>> No.7407902

bro, fuck that dude's stage

>> No.7407910

YOU, a retro FPS enthusiast, know about the Megaman X games after X5? Well, color me somewhat surprised.

>> No.7407912

Looks kinda like The Sky May Be

>> No.7407914

Enemy projectiles are a little too fast
Well yeah

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>Gender: Object
Uh what?

>> No.7407939

Got it
Already keeping track
ah yeah, good reminder.

>> No.7407948

Already in GZDoom

>> No.7407951
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>From the blog that posted this music
Sacha seems pretty based

>> No.7407954

Oh. Never noticed it I suppose.

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>> No.7407958

Yeah, for years he was totally against Methods of Destruction ever seeing a public release. I guess he thought it was inferior to the quality of his later releases because it was essentially an amateur project. It's unfounded though, the typical thing with artists, MoD is good.

Romero is actually the person that leaked it through a friend he knew that still had a copy he made them. Sonic Mayhem sort of agreed after the fact, after it was already out there. He couldn't really very well stop it from spreading at that point anyway, but I am glad he is at peace with it.

>> No.7407985

"Showdown In Suzhou" is probably the most polished/modern SW map out there.

>> No.7407989

just joined

>> No.7407992

cock and ball torture

>> No.7407996

I read "slopes"
here comes the boom police

>> No.7408003

blood + nblood / gdx + death wish - fresh supply

>> No.7408008

>not identifying yourself as a supershotgun
never ever gonna make it

>> No.7408014

Fresh Supply has its bugs still, but even then it still has its advantages over Playing in just DOSBOX as well as the earlier versions of CMblood

>> No.7408030

playing plutonia before diving in my hffm map
I'm having my balls crushed

>> No.7408061

The Duke community used to do CBP's (Community Build Projects). But theyve dried up over the years.

>> No.7408062

Eh... this is a little too gay and flashy for me. I don't know what it is exactly that is turning me off but something is.

>> No.7408072

Fresh Supply still has issues but for me they're not terrible. I go back and forth between it and GDX.

I do have a question about the Shadow Warrior re-release though, Classic Redux. It seems to play great. Are there any major issues with it like Fresh Supply?

>> No.7408078

The mines are invisible.

>> No.7408087

Really? No fix for that?

>> No.7408089

Is there any GBA emulator that will allow me play Serious Sam Advanced without it dropping to single-digit FPS during combat with more than 1 enemy onscreen?

>> No.7408098

There's this, but it's a bit of a hassle.

>> No.7408101

I'll prolly just go unity. Build 2 does look like fun tho. I just don't have the coding chops to go through with it I think

>> No.7408114
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An anon just released a SW map yesterday based on the unused and unfinished E1L3 from an earlier build of Shadow Warrior. It's pretty good:

>> No.7408118

whirledtsar releases a reworking of the cut E1L3 map from the 95-09 Shadow Warrior beta

>> No.7408129 [DELETED] 

Can we please ban retro non old school fps from this site?

>> No.7408136

Such as?

>> No.7408141

Anything that released post-2000 and does not use a retro engine.

>> No.7408149


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So like Serious Sam or RTCW? Why though?

>> No.7408159

This is the 90s fps thread.

>> No.7408161
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No, it's the DOOM / RETRO FPS thread. Are you LARPing as Alf or just being a huge faggot?

>> No.7408163

and there is the bait

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>> No.7408185

Quake OST is awesome and when I play Q2 I replace the soundtrack with the Aubrey Hodges N64 score. Dark ambient for life niggas.

>> No.7408202
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>those voice overs for the level names
Overall seems pretty pretentious. I'll give it a go at some point but it made me realize I still need to finish Ancient Aliens.
>What is Caleb into?
At the very least: Real fucking good map packs, nice choice.

>> No.7408206

This picture made my day ty

>> No.7408223
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Like Chinese New Year firework

>> No.7408235

THe voice-overs are a Serial Experiments Lain reference.

Take from that what you do.

>> No.7408241

>All other 90s FPS welcome

>> No.7408246

it came back if anyone is interested (lol)

>> No.7408263

>Take from that what you do
Doesn't really do anything, to be honest. I still find it a bit obnoxious. Thankfully it seems like an easy fix in SLADE, but I'm not that triggered.

>> No.7408264
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NOW it's /doom/

>> No.7408268

the most creative use of fireblu is the fireblu class in colorful hell

>> No.7408272 [DELETED] 

Where's LadyHavoc?

>> No.7408274
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every fucking thread

>> No.7408278

kek saved

>> No.7408297
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Memes and shitposting aside, we still have one of the few genuinely helpful and knowledgable userbase of any general on the site, certainly on this board, /v/ or even /vg/. An island in an ocean of piss.

>> No.7408339

Hate to break it to you man;
I've got 9 years of music education (3 at a jazz conservatory) and I fucking hate Nine Inch Nails, but I love the Quake soundtrack. Fits the theme, creates amazing atmosphere.
Also, the fuck you mean with music illiterates? It's an ambient videogame soundtrack, how the hell does "musical literacy" help you in appreciating it?

>> No.7408362

the sky, maybe

>> No.7408367

Cool, need to dust off SW.

>> No.7408373

For sure, yes.
Eh, it depends on the general.

>> No.7408374

What's your educated opinion on the superior Sonic Mayhem Q1 soundtrack here? >>7407707

>> No.7408380

Brings back some memories.

>> No.7408383 [DELETED] 

Same here

>> No.7408419
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Music: sc55.duke4.net/games.php
Only works in EDuke/RedNukem AFAIK, not GDX. Create a new folder in your EDuke directory, rename the folder "autoload," MOVE the ZIP files inside of that folder, no need to unzip, and when you open EDuke, select "enable autoload"
The MIDIs sound great in Sound Blaster though and I unironically play in DOSBox when I play the base campaign most of the time.

Sounds: It took a while to find this, as I forgot where exactly I got it from: http://hrp.duke4.net/download.php
Look for
>Duke3D PSX Highres Sounds v1.11
Same thing with the music, just move the files into the autoload folder

>> No.7408442

HACX 2 is (or was) in the works by the OGs, if I was going to do that I would at least talk to them about it.
It's been radio silent for... 9 years, but after what they've been through they've earned the right to gatekeep the sequel.

>> No.7408447

In my opinion, again after having 9 years of music education, this Sonic Mayhem soundtrack is even better than Reznor's. It captures the essense of the game better. They should have went with this.

>> No.7408451

Only semi-related but is there a stated reason Blood (1) isn't on GOG? Didn't it used to be?

>> No.7408456

Referencing SEL is pretentious BUT based.

>> No.7408458

it was replaced with fresh supply

>> No.7408461

All i want is someone finding the full unedited version of Duke Nukem 64 grabbag theme

>> No.7408463

Maaan, I love you so fucking much. Big thanks.
I was kinda trying to make a point against stupid elitism based on music education, but since you're asking, I find it quite fitting as well. Gritty breakbeats and 90's ci-fi/fantasy games go hand in hand. Although it does sound a bit too underdeveloped? Could use more eerie and weird electronic industrial sounds since some tracks sound too happy and energetic.

>> No.7408465

>doesn't show up in the same series as Blood 2
My mistake, sort of.

>> No.7408470

One Whole Unit of Blood is in the mega.nz links in the OP. GOG-Games has Fresh Supply.

>> No.7408475

I'm still waiting for someone to dump a beta prototype of Duke Nukem 64 that has at least slightly less censorship than what N64 players in the Day got.

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>> No.7408495

Does one exist?

>> No.7408506

Seconding this

>> No.7408510

>The mod's creator, TerminusEst13, has stated on multiple occasions that he will not add Strifeguy from Strife and Caleb from Blood to the roster, despite frequent requests. He will not add Strifeguy for balance reasons and Caleb because the character's attacks are too similar to those of others.
Why is Term such a faggot?

>> No.7408514

Is it possible to play Samsara single player?

>> No.7408516

>will not add Strifeguy for balance reasons
If that's true just nerf him, baka.

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>> No.7408532

The maps for HFFM better be fucking good to justify that name

>> No.7408534

go back

>> No.7408537
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Tentative textures I'm adding in to V7. Surprisingly hard to find plain dirt/grass textures.

There's always extending the deadline to make sure that we get enough good shit in, plus I think it's generally agreed that we can simply distribute a censored version. Huff'em, HFFM, hard fast friend maps, etc.

The real thing I'm waiting to see is if you're going to keep posting this every thread.

>> No.7408538
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For the anon that was asking if there was enough custom content to make an inforgraphic for Blood, yes, definitely just as much as the Duke Nukem one has:

This separates them into types well. You'd have to try some or get some opinions on what would be the top tier ones (besides Death Wish)

>> No.7408539

Seconded. I'm working on faggot single finish and I've been using bnstone3 for the cliff textures, but I think these are meant for castle walls or battlements. It fits but it would be nice to have some proper rock textures.
Also while on the topic of graphics stuff for HFFM, do you think it would be possible to change the difficulty names for shits and giggles and extra faggotism? Like turning UV to Ultra Erotic, or nightmare to Wet Dream.
Or would that be too much? I'd be willing to try and whip up those graphic replacements, in fact the only reason I didn't do so yet is because I just came home from work and just wanted to run the idea by first

>> No.7408541

I think he means due to the spells and shit you can learn. You could nerf him but knowing Term he wanted to actually balance it to the other characters and it was too much to fuck with

>> No.7408543

Has anyone ever noticed that Gintama spent an entire episode talking about douk as a Fitness Instructor?

>> No.7408545

Strife guy learns spells?

>> No.7408547

I dont have a problem with the name. But it would make the board look bad if the maps were mediocre/bad on top of the offensive name.

>> No.7408548
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And the flats.
Changing the difficulty names is pretty easy, I'm using an easily googled doom text generator for writing up shit. If you wanna get them spiced up though by all means I appreciate the help.

>> No.7408557

I guess. The maps and texture pack are constantly being refined with feedback from other anons though, it's not really shovelware, at least not as much as it could be.

>> No.7408569

i know but it's gregor here

>> No.7408616

Duke was only good because the first level is really really cool.
Outside of that it's just "The game where you can give strippers money to show their tits."

>> No.7408621

Are you 14 year old hipster me who only played the first level?

>> No.7408623

Yeah. For a log time it was my go to for iwads. Playing as duke or parias in doom or whatever is great.

>> No.7408632

>The game where you can give strippers money to show their tits.
People who legitimately believe this are outing themselves as having only played the first two levels.

>> No.7408661
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Fuck it, here's a quick mockup I did using that doom writing program you mentioned. Preety juvenile but I think it fits the theme.

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>> No.7408702

now I really want sound replacements that makes doomguy say "Ow my shoulder" when taking damage

>> No.7408713

are there any mods that replace keys with enemies, to simulate that "kill boss for key" thing wolfenstein 3d did?

>> No.7408714

Reply to the news post with this shit

[2-11] Gregor Punchatz, creator of the Spider Mastermind model used in Doom posts halfscale version based on original molds on reddit, says will mass produce if iD is interested

>> No.7408720

Batman Doom had monsters that dropped keys.

>> No.7408724

That's pretty fucking cool.
Something I might consider owning.

>> No.7408725

DEHACKed could do it I'm sure.

>> No.7408743

nightmare should be cock and ball torture

>> No.7408768
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NMN3 Version 7
Primary additions here are
>more rocks
>rocks but bricks
>couple wood textures
>flesh door
>couple basic metal textures for details
I'm thinking in a few more iterations I'll probably call it in and work out the credits.txts, however I wanna make sure I get in enough for everyone to feel satisfied with the texture pack before then. At the point of modification we're at I think it'd be fair to come up with a more distinct name than NMN3, probably something like vrDoomPotpourri or whatever since it's pretty much a texture salad.
I'm also gonna be using this tripcode (if it works) to better identify myself in the future.
Looks nice, I don't know how to do custom menus/screens quite yet though. Going to be trying to work at it soon but I'm going to pace myself since I also plan on doing another map and I don't want my brain to mush itself before then.

>> No.7408772

Reminder this was made by a transsexual furry

>> No.7408780

>not "Boss of this gym!"

>> No.7408783
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He's a tranny too?

Something about it feels too slick, too flashy, too pink and purple.. SOULLESS.

>> No.7408786

this is a job for /fit/

>> No.7408787
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I tried to keep it at least kinda tasteful, but that does sound funnier than Wetdream even if it's lengthy.
I'm going to keep these difficulty names in the next version of faggot_single_finish I make, although honestly I'm probably just gonna change some texturing and maybe add another secret

>> No.7408789
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>> No.7408794

Make maps rather than bitch and moan. Talk is cheap, making content will always outshine anything that can be said.

>> No.7408798
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BASED. It's a keeper.

>> No.7408804 [DELETED] 
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>Emma "Lapfox" Essex

>> No.7408806

You're really easy to spot.

>> No.7408817 [DELETED] 
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>they/she 🙼 full-time thing maker @ HALLEY LABS 🙼 PLURR 🙼 av: @kureihii

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Xhe's also an alleged rapist.

>> No.7408824
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>> No.7408869

>The maps are the weakest
I find that interesting since I think they'd be in maybe the 85th or 90th percentile if they were a mod. I would have called the monster designs weaker, and not just because of the chad meme.

>> No.7408916

I don't like ultra erotic, erotic is too soft
basic instincts or ultra instincts?, I don't know

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>> No.7408925

I still think all of the difficulty names should be Gachi-themed.

>> No.7408930
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The maps in the last half of the game are the weakest. I actually don't agree with that part of the HACX Chad meme, I don't think the monster sprites are bad. On the contrary, I think there is some very good sprite work in HACX.

The Thug enemy, which are supposed to be mutated street thugs, do look kind of shit though, just seems like a visually lazy design and I think them being the most common enemy in the early game turns people off to all the sprites when they are probably the worst one of all the monsters.

An anon did a very good lengthy analysis of the sprites in HACX not long ago:

>> No.7408948
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>No Security Officer

>> No.7408956

I'm just honestly surprised Renard still exists. Fucking childhood bangers right there
>Coward Killing Time
>John Freeman
>The Mungyodance games
>all those YTPMVs
Good times.

>> No.7408992
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Homo-Erotic was my back up, but I wanted to keep Ultra part of the naming scheme
If you have any ideas, feel free to say them. This was just a mockup and I'm not even the fag putting the wad together.
Anyways heres faggot_single_finish, with the difficulty names put into the wad. Let me know if the changed difficulty names don't work on your machine. The only real changes was a new secret added for pussies who's scared of a little cyber action and some new textures, particularly in the outdoor sections. Make sure to run with the new NMN textures. https://anonymousfiles.io/KuDux668/

>> No.7409029

I posted some a few threads back, I'll post them again:

>College boy
>Dungeon Master
>Boss of this Gym

>> No.7409047

Are there any tricks anyone knows of for getting rid of HOMs without changing too many lines? What's the main culprit?

>> No.7409062
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>> No.7409063

This is good.

>> No.7409072
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>Boss of this Gym
lost it

>> No.7409073
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Here's what it'd look like in-game. I also really like these, and for bonus points Boss Of This Gym fits the rainbow coloring pretty well.

>> No.7409084
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for whatever reason, boss of THIS gym sounds funnier

>> No.7409085

Excellent. I like this too.

>> No.7409086

It should say "Boss of this gym".
You shouldn't try to fix sacred texts.

>> No.7409095

I suggest "Boy Next Door" instead of "College Boy"

>> No.7409098
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Whoops, my bad

>> No.7409112
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>College boy
>Dungeon Master
>Boss of this Gym

>> No.7409118

I second this

>> No.7409124

Fucking excellent

>> No.7409126

nah i think college boy as a rung below leatherman is much funnier

>> No.7409127

Community MIDI Pack for No Rest For The Living

>> No.7409128

But it's not as iconic.

>> No.7409130

This feels sorta gay

>> No.7409131


>> No.7409132
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Very good, now some of you boys better pay your respects to Aniki in these maps. He was a good man.

>> No.7409134

very noice

>> No.7409135

I think there is still room for improvement
What if the graphic for the exclamation point character were replaced with the character? So that any in-game message that contains an exclamation mark is punctuated with man love?

>> No.7409145
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>> No.7409146
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Input field ate my unicode. I was referring to pic related

>> No.7409150

Sounds good, but also doesn't fit NRFTL at all.

>> No.7409151

Nice to see a midi pack with different artists, not knocking jimmy or stew or whoever you usually find in these things, just cool.

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>> No.7409172

Shitposter-kun, that would be a good replacement sprite for the imp.

>> No.7409182
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What do you guys think about sniper rifles in Doom, like from Hellrider?

>> No.7409184

It would indeed, I was thinking the same thing.

>> No.7409191
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That's above my paygrade. Looking at some wiki and forum posts, it should be easy to replace the font character but I'd have to do it manually for the strings like Read This! or Boss Of THIS Gym! since they're just images.
I'll look into it some more but no promises. Meanwhile, here's the gachi names in a seperate wad (with no map so you can sideload it with anything, pic related is it in Chex Quest)

>> No.7409194
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I normally don't care much for sniper rifles but having an extreme long range weapon with a scope is nice for killing shithead monsters that are WAY out there.

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>> No.7409227
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Definition of a mixed bag. Look at that fucking sprite in the bottom row. Next to the torch, second from right. Is that a mummy? It looks laughably amateurish. Then again some of the other sprites on this sheet look pretty fantastic. The Mutant death sprites with the skin being blown back and the muscles and bones being visible is exquisite.


>> No.7409234

I didn't mean for you to actually capitalize THIS. I only emphasized that word to contrast it with "the." None of the words should be in all-caps, to be clear. Just follow standard capitalization rules, capitalizing all nouns and no prepositions. I dunno if you'd capitalize the T in This so it should either be Boss of this Gym or Boss of This Gym

>> No.7409247

I think there is one or 2 somewhere out there. If there are prototypes of NES Crystalis aka God Destroyer, plus Shadowrun along with Earthbound/MOTHER 2 for the SNES, then why not N64 prototype carts as well?

>> No.7409253

I think a physical coffee table book of these threads, from 2013-now would be cool. I hope desuarchive and warosu never go down, history is stored there.

>> No.7409258

>The game was rushed and the last quarter or so of maps especially were essentially thrown together and speedmapped to make the release date.
I'm certainly feeling this right now. Just played though MAP16 "Protean Cybex" and it only took like a minute to get through.

>> No.7409265

You do realize DOOM text is all caps, right?

>> No.7409268

Yes, that map specifically was actually redone by the devs because it's basically unfinished. They recommend this version of the map to be used with HACX:

>> No.7409273

It may have been already included in the version you played though. I can't remember if it's bundled with it now or not.

>> No.7409283
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Nope, the version you linked is a different map entirely. Now this is more like it, thanks!

>> No.7409301

No hard rule against it, but if it's either necessary or doesn't disrupt the flow of the game, I would take a long look at the map and see if it doesn't follow traditional Doom pacing. It would have been good in Industrial Zone, and that reflects badly on Industrial Zone.
It also requires vertical aiming and high resolution to function at full capacity, which is aggravating from a purist perspective.

>> No.7409313

I would recommend a railgun instead, since it fills the same niche but can also be used at mid range. The Dusk bolt-action also did well at mid range.

>> No.7409316
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No problemo! It comes from Dr. Nostromo's HACX site, the official site for HACX. He was one of the playtesters and is in charge of the source files as well as working on the (seemingly now abandoned) HACX 2.0 project:

He also did some projects from Doom 2 which are also on the Downloads page

>> No.7409330

>(seemingly now abandoned)
Has anybody heard anything about this other than his site? I don't see why he wouldn't update the site news if so, but maybe he has a tweet of "yeah I gave up" or "still workin, SOON(tm)".

>> No.7409349
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He has a personal website that is a delightful slice of 90s web design that he still updates, the last update listed was yesterday. I am not sure if he has a Twitter but he is obviously still alive and active.

He was actually supposed to be collaborating with a Doom modder. They approached him with all these ideas and plans for a HACX 2.0. That modder was Xaser and as far as I know he is still active in the community and on Doomworld.

Either one of them could be emailed and asked what happened with HACX 2.0 but the site hasn't had a new update for it since 2012.

>> No.7409373

>UV with saves
>HMP without saves
which one is harder?

>> No.7409376

You can never lose if you save.

>> No.7409382

This looks like one of last year's cacoward shit outs.If it plays like one, I'll come back and slap your jaw off.

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>> No.7409431

UV with saves, but you'll never need them.

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>> No.7409461
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>"Kevin Cloud did the sprite art, it's basically a Beholder from D&D. I chose Cacodemon which is based on the Greek word kakodaimon which pretty much just means demon. I chose that name because if you look on the back of the Cacodemon, Kevin drawn two distinct holes that look like they're for waste so my first thought when I saw that was "Caca". I imagined this thing flying around defecating on everything. So Cacodemon seemed appropriate to me."
-Sandy Petersen, 2011

>> No.7409497

I never played but this reminds me, does h-doom have a caco-girl, and does she do anal? it seems fitting

>> No.7409510
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Not girls but they do anal

>> No.7409514
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Kingpin: Life of Crime stopped working for me. I have the widescreen patch installed. I have run it once or twice before with the same install and haven't changed any settings or configuration or anything since then. Now I get a black screen (with the HUD visible) after selecting the difficulty setting.

Anyone have ANY idea what the fuck is going on or how to fix it?

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>> No.7409524

oh dios mio

>> No.7409527

You're very welcome dude. I find it to be a whole different experience playing Quake with this soundtrack. Feels like something more traditionally id like, more Doomish

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>> No.7409606

Sonic Mayhem is good, but NIN was perfect for the kind of game Quake 1 is.

>> No.7409619

More malleable map geometry, shit like spinning and deforming platforms, and god knows what else.
You can kind of replicate that stuff with GzDoom, but it doesn't have any inherent support for that, so you would have to make gross hacks using 3D models.

>> No.7409627
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>The triggers are on the sides of the pump
>DoonGuy has to squeeze the pump to fire

>> No.7409629

Is the Unity port of Doom good?

>> No.7409631

Revolution used to be really, really bad, but now it's the only way I can play the game because the originals give me these really awful scanlines. It also has wicked detail textures, and those built-in survival maps, and workshop support. After that use Fusion to play Serious Sam 3, because the original SS3 has some really stupid shit going for it that was fixed in Fusion.

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>> No.7409645

what was the first time in /vr/ that someone said "that's the thing, it's trying to be 90's when the original was trying to be 80's"?

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Based anon, thanks man

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The discussion is long over, but I gotta agree with the one anon about Sonic Mayhem's Q1 OST: They're very much underdeveloped (of course because it's a demo). Whereas Reznor's stuff knows exactly what it's doing. If SM had made a full OST, it might've been good. As it stands, Q1's OST is 10/10.

>> No.7409664

No one has ever said that besides you

>> No.7409668

If you just want straight limit-raising vanilla, yeah it's good.

>> No.7409672

i swear someone said it, even as response to someone else saying it "at least they nailed it feeling like 90's"
it was in either february or march

>> No.7409678

Does anyone have any documentation or a guide for idtech 4?

>> No.7409679

>because the original SS3 has some really stupid shit going for it that was fixed in Fusion.

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It's an interesting look at what may have been.

While we are on the subject, this guy Marky Music has done OSTs for some throwback retro FPS and he did a theme for Ranger that incorporates music themes from Reznor's stuff and I think is really good. It's obviously more Quake Champions style but I really like it.

>> No.7409693

No hits on that exact phrase either. You have to kind of search around with word combinations you remember that were distinct or other posts in the thread.

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>> No.7409732

These are literally the defaults with one slider moved from 1.0 to 0.5

>> No.7409737

And it's already made the game feel a lot better than a few minutes ago for me

>> No.7409746
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That's the fucking one.
>Textureset name
Keeping with the gay theme, how does NeMeSiss sound?

Usually it's raising/lowering sectors that usually do it since they aren't detected by Map Analysis. I usually just slap some random and distinct pattern to the upper and lower texture and see if it's visible in testing.

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yay I made some progress today

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did I get tricked into a slaughtermap?

>> No.7409765

>playing Doom via proprietary software
I'm sure it's fine, but why? Just use prboom or even GZDoom. There are so many better options out there that are just as easy to set up and have more options are features.

>> No.7409784

Ahem. I would just like to take a moment to publicly declare my intense, and passionate hatred for slaughter maps. Many people try to protect themselves from the feds by posting "everything linked to this IP is satire." Feds, listen up. I HATE slaughter maps. This post is NOT satire and ALL other posts linked to this IP containing anti-slaughter map sentiment are NOT satire either, and should be taken seriously. Keep this post on file NSA boys. That is all. Goodbye.

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Anyone here play Build Engine or other retro FPS in the third-person mode or "Chasecam"? Some games like Blood and Powerslave were supposedly made with playing like this in mind. I can say Powerslave seems to be the easiest to play that way and the player sprite has lots of frames of animation. Blood plays pretty good like this but not as good as Powerslave. Caleb looks cool as fuck though.

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>> No.7409818

The Unity ports are cool for consoles. I really love that there are accurate ports with multiplayer and curated mods as well and it's getting a lot more eyes on the Doom mod scene. Play them a lot on my Xbox One when I just feel like laying on the couch and playing Doom with a controller.

However for PC? Yeah, no point really.

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>The Thug enemy, which are supposed to be mutated street thugs, do look kind of shit though, just seems like a visually lazy design and I think them being the most common enemy in the early game turns people off to all the sprites when they are probably the worst one of all the monsters.
Looking at the sprites on Spriter's Resource there is some outstanding work but these guys just look fucking dumb and like a shitty clay model or something. Officially they are referred to as "small mutants" but they look like a bootleg Beebop from TMNT

>> No.7409860

>Yeah, no point really.
Not for you or I, but I'm sure someone who just wants to revisit the games and doesn't want to deal with finding the right source port, and changing the default settings to something that makes sense etc... And since it's wrapped in Unity there's no reason not to make it available on all systems.

>> No.7409865

It makes sense, yes. I am sure there are a lot of casuals and people that don't know how or don't care to know how to run GZDoom and download mods and they have an easy way of playing the games and playing a list of good mods that is always being added to.

But if you're on /vr/? You probably are already savvy enough to not need them.

>> No.7409872

>Usually it's raising/lowering sectors
Well this area does have a lot of those...

>> No.7409876

I honestly don't think Aubrey Hodges soundtracks have shit on Trent Reznor's, almost all of the tracks sound indistinguishable from each other.
Apparently the N64 and PSX versions do not share the same tracks, which is a massive surprise to me, since I cannot for the life of me tell them apart. For Quake, the tracks are all gloomy and dark ambient ones, but they are pretty distinct.

>> No.7409891

In the absolute worst case, I'll volunteer to alter maps which needs revisions, in case the original authors are unable to or refuse. They'd have to be subpar though.

>> No.7409895

3/10, needs improvements.

>> No.7409909

I saw his earlier video where he dug out all the old molds he made to cast the original latex skins, and those were still all intact. It's cool to see him still playing around with this stuff.

If he were to make a deal with iD to mass produce figurines of some of them, I would genuinely love to buy a few, I adore the monster design in Doom a lot.

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Repulsive. Methods of Destruction for Q1 and official OST for Q2 or bust. Aubrey Hodges creaky metal hinge+rumbling refrigerator+eerie humming fluorescent bulb shit sucks.

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>> No.7409932

Same, Nightmare should very obviously be Boss Of This Gym

>> No.7409934

>Methods of Destruction for Q1
>and official OST for Q2

>> No.7409936

That shit's the greatest. Not enough maps like this. The Goldsrc and Source modding communities was rife with experimental shit.

>> No.7409938

I'll give Method Of Destruction a try sometime when I'm on another Quake kick, but I seriously doubt it'll permanently replace the original NIN tracks for me.

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>Aubrey Hodges creaky metal hinge+rumbling refrigerator+eerie humming fluorescent bulb shit

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I seriously doubt it'll permanently replace the original NIN tracks for me.
That's where you're wrong, jack. You'll see.

>> No.7409962

Man, haven't seen those in a while. Is he still making those comics?

Calm down, Biden.

>> No.7409963

I really don't understand what you're driving at here. Only 4/9 tracks are wicked like the QII OST, and even B7 slows down to Trent levels, with the remaining 5 tracks being straight out of Trent's catalogue. Are you retarded?

>> No.7409967

Some are Trent like but better. Sonic Mayhem is just the better musician overall. His soundscapes are better and he is better suited to this work.

>> No.7409970

Hey Cornpop! Settle down now, man.

>> No.7409976
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Ultimate Rage is 10/10, but Military Installation is underdeveloped. Mental Anguish is the same as Fallen, and Parallel Dimensions stands head and shoulders over Premonition. You're like one of those guys who is always under the delusion that cut content is always better than the final product. It was cut, or in this case passed over, for a reason.

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Is it just me or does Blood have fucking psychotic audio mixing?
Like seriously, Caleb's voice is always at like 10 ear shattering decibels higher than whatever the SFX are set to, the FMVs are lower than anything no matter your settings, and then every few rare Caleb lines like the "bigger boat" bit are so fucking quiet you have to squint your ears to hear them.
Am I just insane? Is my game haunted? I've experienced this on every single port I've tried so I don't think it's port fuckery.
I've played it like this forever and I've never seen anyone mention this fucking ever so I'm finally posting about it. It sucks because I love the game's audio work.

>> No.7409984

I'm Too Young To Die should be No Homo
Nightmare! should be The Boss Of This Gym

>> No.7409985

Like, they're fine, but that's it. They're fine. You're bewitched by the garage/DIY nature of Welcome to Mayhem, and the first 45 seconds of B7.

>> No.7409993

You're gonna need better ears doodoo, dootoodaloo

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I appreciate your thoughtful analysis but respectfully disagree.

>> No.7410016

Nifty. There's a lot you can do with portals. If you're creative, you can do some things kinda like these with silent teleports.

>> No.7410023

I'm liking how it looks.

>> No.7410030
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Man I wish there were molds of the original clay models Adrian made. I'd love to have an authentic Doomguy or Hell Noble figurine.

Also, this Ranger statue: Worth 300 bucks?

>> No.7410035

Perhaps, but I really like the feel it gives the game when playing with it.

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I think Punchatz could likely produce a good imitation. If you've seen the original Baron clay model, it has an almost flat and simple face, because it was made conscious of the fact that it would be scaled down as a low resolution sprite (well, high resolution for its day, but you know what I mean), and that really fine detail would likely be lost.
Looking at the Arch-Vile, he has a lot of detail to his face to make him look like a creepy angry alien kinda thing, but this is just not present in the final sprite, which looks a lot more like some kind of skeletal face without eyes (which I actually prefer).

It'd be neat to see his interpretation.

>> No.7410067

Riddle me this, /doom/: Are barons and hell knights humans that were made into beastial forms over millennia, or were goat demons always in Hell?

>> No.7410076

What are you playing on, Fresh Supply?

>> No.7410081

Fuck me I didn't read the whole post.
Anyway yeah I noticed the same thing with FS but not with GDX or NBlood so..

>> No.7410101

Is there a point to Nightmare setting? Or was it designed as a setting to play with cheats on so it's no too easy?

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>> No.7410108

it's a joke difficulty that was added after people complained about UV being too easy

>> No.7410112

Was it kino?

>> No.7410115

Who the fuck would complain about UV being easy? Are the later chapters even beatable on UV?

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>Are the later chapters even beatable on UV?

>> No.7410141

It's basically a fucking joke.

I beat UV without dying as a kid. Took a lot of practice, but I eventually got to where I could do it consistently. It's not THAT hard.

>> No.7410151

Are there vids of it on youtube? Not that I doubt you personally it just seems implausible from my experience of playing the game for over 30 years

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I'm mentally handicapped and have only been playing og doom for a month or two and even I can beat the doots in UV
Even beat scythe after bashing my head against the wall long enough

>> No.7410185

Notice how nobody is laughing this time either?

>> No.7410192

Stop playing keyboard only? It shouldn't be that bad.

>> No.7410193

ok but what if caco triclops

>> No.7410194

Hahaha I see you take me for a retard. I am 50 but I'm not retard I'll tell you that much

>> No.7410196

Depends a lot on how the map has balanced the skill settings.

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He made more tracks for each game (and probably with less time, too) so a lot of them are bound to sound similar. I think his quake OST is pretty varied though
>N64 and PS1 version do not share the same tracks
DOOM 64 is full of PS1 covers, they even have similar names. https://youtu.be/WewfHIuRohA

>> No.7410245

Wow that was a real slog of a map. I actually think I prefer the unfinished version.

>> No.7410259

Isn't Betruger literally the only human to become more than a zombieman or revenant?

>> No.7410261

And revenants are only former humans in the new canon.

>> No.7410263

Yeah, I don't remember which samples exactly, but I also noticed while playing blood the loudness of sounds was not normalized. Afair, it was more of a BuildGDX problem and it was better in NBlood. Also, I never checked this twice, but I had an impression NBlood has better 3d stereoimaging of sounds.

>> No.7410304

Why not check on your own before doubting it though?
Quick search reveals ultraviolence speedrun in 18 minutes 30 seconds:
Sure thing he uses a lot of shortcuts and cheeses in every possible way.

>> No.7410314

Yeah but those things are full of commie trickery and probably subtle cheats. It's very unchecked this speedrun thing.

>> No.7410324

> uses rocket jumps to skip
Yay, I didn't know this was a thing in Doom.

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>> No.7410378

House of Horrors is hard as shit

>> No.7410390
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What's hardest objectively good and not shovelware FPS? Hexen 2? System Shock? Descent?

>> No.7410454
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Do not seek logic and function in every single linedef.

>> No.7410461

Either Descent for how it'd kill you in no time flat or ROTT for it's later levels with shit like the NME.

>> No.7410463

Industrial Zone having an arrow doesn't contradict anon's statement. All arrows indicate a failure to guide the player through the environment.
I almost wonder though... Industrial Zone was inspired by Downtown, which also has an arrow. Could this have been a reference/joke?

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I just learned the existence of "Classic Doom for Doom 3 "
Some bad cinematics as you would expect from a mod, but I'm liking the way they redesigned e1 in a more modern engine

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Descent sounds right to me. Drillers and Large Hulks deliver dick flattenings that put idtech and Build's toughest to shame. Plus, it's one of the only games of the time that wasn't made substantially easier by the upgrade from ball to optical mice.

>> No.7410503

Realistic e1m1 is such a mind screw.
I wonder if it was intended to be a lift in the original. Looks natural either way.

>> No.7410505

You're right, I thought it's almost a random semi-decorational gimmick, but I just a checked and it actually points to the key after you press some shit to open the way, so it's a guide in a rather dark and messy place.

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>> No.7411029

There's also Sabaoth, which used to be Sergeant Kelley.

>> No.7411137

They're demonic hell spawn, not humans.

>> No.7411140

This, in the original material it says they are demons who died and are wired back up to fight

>> No.7411527
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>marine accidentally shoots another
>"my god what have I done?"
>imp from behind pops his head like a bottlecap
That shit was hilarious

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