/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7403836]

when did you realize they were never good

[Anonymous No.7403843]

>>7403836
The moment I played them for the first time. I never had a sega growing up so when I finally played sonic I was able to tell that it was shit.

[Anonymous No.7403891]

>sonic was never good
I hate this meme, you could literally replace Sonic with any other franchise in this argument, but of course inserting Sonic into it gets all the views and depressed sonicfags to agree with it.

[Anonymous No.7403892]

Trolling outside of /b/ is not allowed on 4chan, kid.

[Anonymous No.7403949]

Didn't like them as a kid when I first them on Mega Collection. As I got older I came around to it and now prefer them to any other 2D platformer
They have a learning curve to them, you just gotta git gud

[Anonymous No.7403969]

>>7403836
Sonic 1 was never that great. 2 and 3 however were stellar.

[Anonymous No.7404003]

>>7403836
is one of the best games of the 90s.

I don't know who started this meme

[Anonymous No.7404059]

>>7403836
When youtube told me so.

[Anonymous No.7404124]

>>7404003
Red letter media definitely amplified it and Sonic fans were big enough downers to take their word for it, despite the fact that the previously recorded crew had no prior experience with sonic and absolutely sucked at Sonic 2. Anyone could use the same argument with any franchise they claimed to have never experienced and it would carry about as much weight, but of course saying it about sonic gets you all the clicks and the sonic fanbase is just sad enough to believe it.

[Anonymous No.7404260]

>>7403836
When youtube man told me

[Anonymous No.7404332]

>>7404059
>>7404124
>>7404260
maybe perhaps the games are bad and there isn't a youtube boogeyman convincing people that the game is bad

[Anonymous No.7404365]

I hated Sonic as a kid but I can more easily see their merit now

I never watched any YouTube videos about it

[Anonymous No.7404392]

>>7403836
When I became a Nincel who hates Sega.

[Anonymous No.7404419]

>>7404332
t.kid who held right to win and got mad he didn't win

[Anonymous No.7404432]

>>7403836
Sonic 1 has obviously aged like total garbage in almost all facets. Even a lot of the music sucks aside from Green Hill and Scrap Brain. Even the speed meme isn't really represented at all in this game, it's mostly just a very slow methodical platformer with a lot of instant deaths.

The second game is a massive improvement with better level design, better music, better visuals, better mechanics, better bosses, added an actual reward for getting the chaos emeralds with Super Sonic. It's honestly one of the biggest leaps forward from a first game to its sequel I can think of.

Sonic 3&K is an outright fantastic game that takes all of what Sonic 2 did but makes it even better and more challenging, with a fuckload of content and more complex design and mechanics. Maybe there's a few levels that are kinda duds but they're few and far between.

[Anonymous No.7404439]

>>7404124
>RLM
IGN, the biggest game journalism outlet in the world, are the ones who famously said "Sonic was never good." Fucking nobody watched Previously Recorded which is why it shut down.

[Anonymous No.7404446]

>>7404439
The biggest culprit is most likely the Sóylent Grumps. Shitting on Sonic and telling everyone to be gay are the two things they do the most.

[Anonymous No.7404462]

>>7404446
they only play the 3D Sonic games and they go out of their way to play the worst ones the most. Of course they shit on the franchise, the Sonic franchise has been an embarrassment since like 2003

[Anonymous No.7404515]

>>7404432
>Even a lot of the music sucks aside from Green Hill and Scrap Brain.
Labyrinth Zone and Starlight Zone are two of the most iconic tracks ever in Sonic. Ive heard these songs in so many remixes and as background music in youtube videos, i have no idea how you can come to this conclusion. I rarely hear anyone talk about Scrap Brain's melody, especially compared to these two

[Anonymous No.7404531]

>>7403836
When did you realize you will never be a woman?

[Anonymous No.7404634]

Theres a bit of a fundamental flaw with the games. They were specifically designed for speedrunning, and its not a conspiracy, as the developers themselves admitted that they would be frustrating for a noob and the speed rewards people who master it. But, the Sonic games arnt the best for speedrunning. Turns out just regular games like ninja gaiden or super mario world are just as good, if not, better to speedrun than Sonic, even though Sonic is a game specifically built for speed running.

Also, an ongoing problem with Sonic thats been around since the creation of the series is obstacles that look cool, but arnt a challenge. Like the loop. Its iconic and looks great, but the challenge is literally hold right 2 win. You dont need to jump over a rock inside the loop, look for an enemy at the end of the loop, just hold right....

[Anonymous No.7404643]

>>7404432
Sonic 1-3 is a pure and clear example of how each game builds upon its predecessor

[Anonymous No.7404665]

>>7404432
>Sonic 1 has obviously aged like total garbage in almost all facets.
pffft maybe non-biodegradable garbage that won't chemically change for 10,000 years

[Anonymous No.7404680]

>>7403836
when did you realize your retarded bait threads were never good either funny

[Anonymous No.7404690]

>>7404634
I completely agree. Sonic almost feels like a marvel movie. Both of them feel less like a game/movie but more so a spectacle I won't deny Sonic looks amazing and is beautiful but playing them and seriously critiquing it, it just falls apart while other platformers at the time still hold up

[Anonymous No.7404693]

Mario 64 is shit

[Anonymous No.7404732]

>>7404690
>>7404634
Embarrasing posts

[Anonymous No.7404741]

>>7404634
>>7404690
>be bad at the game
>game is bad!!
wow
if something is that arcade approach the one that make sonic interesting instead of a generic platformer.

[Anonymous No.7404745]

>>7404690
the 3d games are even more guilty than this. The truck scene in SA2, one of the most notorious obstacles in the Sonic franchise, you dont do anything in it. You arnt dodging obstacles, timing jumps or have to look out for anything. The game just has you hold Down for 15 seconds, and Sonic fans worship this moment like its one of the greatest feats. of gaming. And uck the fans, i watched behind the scene developer interviews talking about how proud they were of this stupid truck scene. I dont get it.

[Anonymous No.7404747]

>>7404634
>They were specifically designed for speedrunning,
The first three weren't. Speed was a reward for when you got good but they were a platformer first and foremost despite what the marketing would lead you to believe which yeah no shit they'd market the most gimmicky mechanic to stand out from Mario god you're dumb I wanna suck your dick until your tiny brain comes out.

[Anonymous No.7404762]

>>7404741
>bad at game
I beat Sonic 1 on my first try. Its not a matter of difficulty, the developers purposely made it a frustrating slog experience that only gets better with more memorization.

>>7404747
>but they were a platformer first and foremost
Its your words against actual developers who have stated that the most fun of Sonic comes from after memorizing the level. They do not care about platforming, they wanted you to be good at memorization.
I know this will make your ass quench because its a common complaint, but yes, Sonic is 100% better in wide screen because it gets rid of the need of memorization and puts more emphasize on first time reflexes

[Anonymous No.7404784]

>>7403969
Having replayed them recently, absolutely this

[Anonymous No.7404793]

>>7404762
The only thing that'll make my ass quench big boy is your dick going in it. And Naka said the emphasis on speed was to give expert players something more but the games especially 1 were platformers at their core. Now fill me with your cum big boy.

[Anonymous No.7404862]

>>7403836
After growing up and realizing I don't have to pretend anymore.

[Anonymous No.7404886]

when will you realize nintenkiddies will never stop bashing anything that was released outside of their precious toys? why are they so insecure?

[Anonymous No.7404896]

>>7404886
half of the replies in this thread are sonic fans whining about people having problems with their game instantly going to "YOU'RE NINTENDRONES" i think you're projecting

[Anonymous No.7404906]

>>7404896
because you keep making the same threads over and over

[Anonymous No.7404950]

>>7404886
What if i like Sonic games but self aware of their flaws?

[Anonymous No.7404975]

>>7404886
I can't help it that Sega has a long history of making bad products outside the arcade and Genesis.
not that Nintendo is perfect, their software has had a steady decline in quality since the Gamecube and the Wii U is a horrible failure, and I'm not talking commercially.

[Anonymous No.7405016]

>>7403836

1 always was and still is good

2 and 3 are decent and have great music

Splitting 3 into two parts and charging full price for each was retarded though

[Anonymous No.7405027]

>>7405016
to be fair through the use of fucking MAGIC you could also play as Knuckles in 2. S3&K is cool.

[Anonymous No.7405089]

>>7403836
Still haven't. Must suck to be you, faggot.

[Anonymous No.7405129]

>>7405027

Whenever I hear people say how much they love S&K, I can only assume they played them together for free via emulation long after release. When enjoyed as a complete product, without the hindsight ordeal of paying full price for both halves, it's probably an impressive experience.

For someone forking over £45 of hard-earned wagiebux for 'Sonic 3' in 1994, only to realise the game ended after six two-act zones with an abrupt credits screen, leaving me saying 'Is that fucking it?', and then finding out I had to wait six months for the rest of the game (and buy it again), it was less impressive.

[Anonymous No.7405993]

Sonic 2 and Sonic & Knuckles were good but Sonic 1 and 3 kinda suck

[Anonymous No.7406034]

>>7404332
Or perhaps you're a historical revisionist zoomie faggot

[Anonymous No.7407180]

>>7403843
same... fuckin gen x trya make me play this shit, these "classics"...