RAIL SHOOTERS

[Anonymous No.7387419]

What do you think of this genre?

[Anonymous No.7387434]

>>7387419
Pointless outside the context of Arcade with gimmick hardware

[Anonymous No.7387438]

>>7387419
>The The House Of Dead
This is a mandela effect for me. I remember it simply as House Of The Dead. Even the movie poster of House Of The Dead has the "Of The" part in between "House" and "Dead".

[Anonymous No.7387460]

>>7387438
Yes, we've talked about this. The title screen of the first game very clearly says "THE HOUSE... OF THE DEAD". The first "the" just tends to get shortened out sometimes, especially in casual conversation.

[Anonymous No.7387469]

>>7387419
I liked them and played a lot of Virtua Cop 1 & 2 and House of the Dead 2 back in the day but the death of CRT TVs and light guns ruined them. Games on the Wii or PS3 using the Move controller just weren't the same even though I did play a lot of House of the Dead Overkill on them.

[Anonymous No.7387482]

One of my favorite genres, if you invest in light guns and big CRTs, it's like having an arcade in your home.
best ones
>Virtua Cop 1+2
>Confidential Mission
>HOTD 1-3
>Time Crisis
with the pedal of course
>Vampire Night
>Ghost Squad
>Point Blank
>>7387469
The Sega light gun games on Wii are really good, might be preferable to some too since they remove the flash that you get with hardware light guns. You can also emulate NES, SNES and Genesis light gun games using the remote.

Anyone here buy the Sinden light gun? Worth it for arcade emulation?

[Anonymous No.7387491]

>>7387482
The huge, HUGE issue with the Wii port is the new reloading animation making some bosses way more difficult than they're supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.7387504]

>>7387482
also just realized that OP says "RAIL SHOOTERS"
I really wish people wouldn't lump rail shooters and light gun games together. Not even all light gun games would qualify as rail shooters and certainly most actual rail shooters are not light gun games.
>>7387491
In House of the Dead you mean? I've only played 3 on the Wii port and it's been a while. That sucks, way easier to recommend the Wii version to people that don't collect retro hardware

[Anonymous No.7387526]

>>7387504
Yes, House of the Dead Wii. In the arcade, you shoot off-screen to reload. In the Wii version, you just push a button and there's a 2-3 second long animation of the gun reloading. The last boss has an attack where he barrages you with panels and there are too many to clear without reloading. In the arcade, it's pretty easy to deal with, but you have to be FAST to hit them all in the Wii version because of the reload eating up your time.

[Anonymous No.7387538]

>>7387526
(I double checked and it's only around 1 second, but that's also how long it takes to use all six of your bullets so your rate of fire is significantly lowered)

[Anonymous No.7387554]

They're the perfect genre for virtual reality.
Why hasn't Ghoul Panic VR happened yet?

[Anonymous No.7387558]

>>7387419
Shame on people that produce that trash, it's child abuse in my judgement.

[Anonymous No.7387872]

>>7387482
I got a Sinden gun, its a pain in the arse to set up. works ok but not as well as you would expect for the money it costs. CRT with an old lightgun is still best option in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.7387876]

Lightgun games often feel like horseshit designed to steal your money.
Love me some Starfox 1 and 64 though. It's not retro but Sin and Punishment: Star Successor is the all time best game in the genre.

[Anonymous No.7387915]

>>7387504
What OP posted is an On-Rails Shooter as opposed to. Rail Shooter which is Space Harrier etc. It's an easy mistake to make though so whatever.

[Anonymous No.7387931]

>>7387419
Better than shootemups for sure

[Anonymous No.7387938]

>>7387419
The zombies being that pale blue in the original game was always creepy to me

[Anonymous No.7388004]

C'MON! STAY LOW!

[Anonymous No.7388006]

>>7387434
fpbp

[Anonymous No.7388008]

>>7387438
you're lying. the voice-over at the title screen CLEARLY emphasises the first 'the'

[Anonymous No.7388018]

>>7387419
awesome and fascinatingly deep when you get to see pros play them.

[Anonymous No.7388024]

>>7387419
i was just thinking this is the most fun type of game why don't they make it but then i remembered you need a gun

[Anonymous No.7388050]

>>7387460
>>7388008
Oh yeah? Explain this...

[Anonymous No.7388059]

>>7387460
>>7388008
And this!!!

[Anonymous No.7388064]

>>7388008
I don't know how you can't have it burnt into your mind...
THE HOUSE.....of the dead.

[Anonymous No.7388091]

>>7388064
The voice over is irrelevant. The logo is the Mandela Effect and there is residual proof. Hell even some people didn't notice there was a "the" in "Robocop Vs The Terminator" video game. Everyone just calls it "Robocop Vs Terminator" because the "the" was so small, no one cares to look at it carefully. Don't get me wrong, it's still Robocop Vs Terminator to me, but the added "the" part is off-putting.

[Anonymous No.7388197]

Typing of the dead was neat.

[Anonymous No.7388213]

>>7388091
It was always apparent in the text and the voiceover, you are literally just retarded.

[Anonymous No.7388230]

>>7387419
I think House of the Dead is a great series. But not really worth it because they always make the final bosses hard as shit in a cheap way to suck up those quarters.

[Anonymous No.7388302]

>>7387558
>Want to hear another joke, Murray?

[Anonymous No.7388316]

>>7388302

[Anonymous No.7388318]

>>7388091
>the voiceover at the beginning of the game put an extra "the" in the title for no reason
Fuck off retard.

[Anonymous No.7388412]

>>7388316

The player two Justifier was sold in the back of Konami manuals for their light gun games. You had to purchase this directly from Konami. And it worked with both SNES and Genesis Justifier's as it plugs into the first gun.

[Anonymous No.7388423]

>>7388412
>born too late for light guns
>born too early for VR
Feelsbadman

[Anonymous No.7388429]

>>7387434
/thread
>>7387419
incredibly fun with a friend, specially while under the influence of doubtful quality beer
pic related is one of my personal favourites

[Anonymous No.7388436]

>>7388213
>>7388318
Again the "voice over" isn't definitive proof that it's not a Mandela Effect, when you have proof A) >>7388050 and proof B) >>7388059 that contradicts your claims. Stop acting like triggered snowflakes already.

[Anonymous No.7388442]

>>7388429
If that's the one I think it is, that game was intense. Actually had to stop playing it once when I was a kid.

[Anonymous No.7388463]

>>7387419
pic related is in my opinion the goat
>>7388442
its the one with the spitting dinos and the brontosaurs that shit attack you, jurassic park as a whole is a rather consistent fun light gun franchise

[Anonymous No.7388468]

>>7388463
fuuug forgot pic brb gonna kill myself now

[Anonymous No.7388469]

>>7388463
No, the one I was thinking of is more like Alien with velociraptors, although the spitters are there.
That fucking moasaurus gave me nightmares.

[Anonymous No.7388485]

>>7388469
oh the pc game by telltale, i've only heard great things about it

[Anonymous No.7388497]

>>7388485
No way, last time I checked PC didn't have light guns, and this was way before Telltale.

[Anonymous No.7388512]

>>7388497
OH then it is >>7388429 the boss is a giant gator https://youtu.be/FM6G2dMTcsU

[Anonymous No.7388517]

>>7388512
LMAO I remember that being terrifying. Maybe I was too young to be playing that.

[Anonymous No.7388673]

>>7387419
Just say "light gun shooter", dumbass.

[Anonymous No.7388956]

>>7388423
>>born too late for light guns
>>born too early for VR
>Feelsbadman

I didn't think the Wii-Zapper was that bad of a substitute. Especially with a decent shell, like the Nyko quick shot. It does have a decent selection of light gun games. I feel like VR is also bringing the light gun genre back as well. Konami released a Justifier for the PS1 (was it for the Saturn as well?) , but I do not remember it supporting a lot of games. The Namco GunCon had the most support.

>>7388673
>Just say "light gun shooter", dumbass.

"On Rails Shooter" is pretty vague, though. It could be a game like Star Fox or Panzer Dragoon. Light Gun is a sub genre of on-rails shooters. yes, the majority of light gun games are on-rails. But games like Duck Hunt are not on-rails shooters, but requires a lightgun.

[Anonymous No.7389070]

>>7388050
Kino.

[Anonymous No.7389221]

Any recs for rail shooters on PC/emulatable?

[Anonymous No.7389234]

>>7388517
In your defense, it's much scarier on the arcade-size screen with its noises blasting next to your ears.

[Anonymous No.7389235]

>>7389221
They were playing >>7388512 on an emulator.

[Anonymous No.7389236]

>>7387419

A good and missed genre

[Anonymous No.7389303]

Is it worth it to buy an N64 controller entirely for Sin and Punishment?

[Anonymous No.7390421]

>>7388412
Some people don't know it, but it works as a microphone too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTXG5Y1NPlM

[Anonymous No.7390435]

>>7387434

ehhhh I would't totally say pointless, they're still pretty fun at home with a guncon, I've even gotten enjoyment out of playing with a controller too

[Anonymous No.7390485]

>>7387554
Can't believe the new Panzer Dragoon remake isn't VR. Most useless remake there is.

[Anonymous No.7390495]

>>7387872
Really? Is any better than a WiiMote with a dolphin bar? Or those shitty aim track guns?

[Anonymous No.7390549]

>>7390495
Not that anon, but it's definitely better than a wiimote. I've never used an aimtrack, though. It's absolutely not the 1:1 replacement for real light guns they were selling it as. It definitely feels off on games like police trainer where you have to rapidly make quick shots on different parts of the screen.

[Anonymous No.7390774]

>>7389303
No, but it's a solid game if you already have an N64. I think it plays okay with a Wii classic controller or anything similar if you're on PC emulating.

Going to drop pic related here, some anon recommended it last year. I've played the newer Time Crisis games and the Japanese port of TC1/Point Blank with this gun, it's pretty decent but I still need to test it with PS1 guncon games. Unfortunately I don't think it can play Justifier games.

[Anonymous No.7390804]

Is pokemon snap actually good?

[Anonymous No.7390873]

>>7387438
My Saturn copy front

[Anonymous No.7390878]

>>7390873
Manual and disc

[Anonymous No.7390882]

>>7390804
It's a nice chill game. Probably one of the slowest rail shooters out there, seems fun to play while drinking some beers

[Anonymous No.7390884]

>>7390804

yes it's very relaxing, but you can clear it easily in an afternoon

[Anonymous No.7390901]

>>7390878
And back

[Anonymous No.7390939]

>>7390873
>>7390878
>>7390901
The residual proof says "House Of The Dead". "Of The" was always in the middle, the same placement used in the new House Of The Dead game "Scarlet Dawn".

[Anonymous No.7390946]

>>7390873
>>7390878
>>7390901
The sequel of the movie also just says House Of The Dead.

[Anonymous No.7390986]

>>7390873
Please, stop replying to him. He's a gimmick shitposter who pops up in every tHotD thread.

[Anonymous No.7391004]

>>7390939
>>7390946
I'm sorry but I don't quite understand what you're trying to say. Both 1 and 2 were formatted as "The The House of Dead". (excluding the back of saturn box and possibly with 2 aswell) 3 and 4 changed the format to "The House of the Dead". Still containing the "The" at the beginning. Overkill contains the "The" in "The House of the Dead". Not sure why you consider the films and the latest game as proof of the original title didn't contain the "The" at the beginning. However, I do accept that "House of the Dead" isn't incorrect and is perfectly fine to call the earlier games as such. Most people dropped the "The" when talking about "The House of the Dead"

[Anonymous No.7391068]

>>7390986
t. Triggered anti-Mandela Effect poster

>>7391004
The movies and Scarlet Dawn are proof of the Mandela Effect. Also on the Dreamcast demo disc, it says "House Of The Dead 2" on the front. There was no extra "the". Another residual proof that dates back to 1999.

[Anonymous No.7391118]

>>7391068
bro no one cares about your schizo mandela effect
It's literally an example of how shitty the human brain is, but also in this case, no one gave a shit, it's just an inconsistency, the same team making HOTD didn't write the copy for the back of Dreamcast demo discs

[Anonymous No.7391586]

>>7391118
The Mandela Effect has nothing to do with being a "schizo". There's a lot of evidence the Mandela Effect being real. Just because you don't buy into it, doesn't make it any less true. For example there are people who celebrate Christmas with an upside down Christmas tree hanging from the ceiling. Which is pretty fucking weird. Why does the majority of Star Wars fans remember "Luke I am your father" instead of "No, I am your father"? Why does various incarnations of 3CPO shows him as all gold, but in the original movies, he is seen with 1 silver leg? I'm not even a Star Wars fan, but even I don't remember a silver leg on 3CPO. Either way it has nothing to do with having a "shitty human brain", most people have sharp memory. My memory is very sharp, I can recall events that took place in my past as if it happened yesterday. Ever heard of CERN? Well they're behind these anomalies because they're smashing particles together, which is combining our universe with an alternate universe. There are tons of videos that show how the Mandela Effect actually works and how half the population either remembers things one way or the other. For example, you might be from an alternate universe that remembers Jiffy Peanut Butter. But I only remember JIF Peanut Butter because it is my favorite peanut butter. House Of The Dead is my favorite light gun shooter game, I don't remember the extra "the" in the title, but apparently you do. If tomorrow the name of the 1989 Batman movie goes from "Batman" to "The Batman", you'll probably falsely accuse me of having a shitty memory because to you, it was always "The Batman", instead of "Batman". But as of right now as I hold the Blu-Ray version of the 1989 Batman movie, it definitely says "Batman".

[Anonymous No.7391765]

>>7391068
I don't believe that dropping the "The" from The House of the Dead counts as the mandela effect anon. It's just for convenience more than anything. Sega probably dropped the "The" in Scarlet Dawn for simplicities sake and not because everyone at Sega collectively forgot "The".

[Anonymous No.7391814]

>>7391765
And yet "Of The" is placed squarely in the middle in Scarlet Dawn, the same way it was placed in the movie adaptation.

[Anonymous No.7391946]

>>7390495
>>7390549
The jitter is what has disappointed me most about the sinden gun, I have tried all kinds of shit to fix it, but I think my TV is the problem. It's not complete shit but old lightgun and a CRT still is the most accurate and user freindly setup.

[Anonymous No.7392938]

>>7388412
I had both justifiers and I was an only child. I used to use one in each hand and blast away at Lethal Enforces for the Genesis like I was dirty fucking Harry.

[Anonymous No.7393221]

>>7387419
Favorite bosses were Empress and Star.

[Anonymous No.7393883]

goddamn Sin and Punishment is rad

[Anonymous No.7395426]

BANG!

[Anonymous No.7395449]

The Time Crisis two player arcade mode looks incredible. Sadly I have never played one of these machines. I like how each player has their own point of view, and pedal control to duck. Never played these on PS1 either. I had a Saturn with Virtua Cop 1 and 2. I have seen Virtua Cop 1 in the arcades. But I never played the Namco light gun games much.

[Anonymous No.7395537]

>>7388004
pure kino

[Anonymous No.7395546]

Be warned

[Anonymous No.7396247]

>>7387419
this genre is the only reason to argue for the wiis motion control.

[Anonymous No.7396898]

>>7387419
love rail shooters. the Wii deserved more and THOTD is one of my all time favorites.

[Anonymous No.7396923]

>>7388436
>a movie and a non retro game take liberties with the original title therefore I forgot to take my meds
How do you even breath?

[Anonymous No.7396929]

>>7395426
never see blacks playing virtua cop

[Anonymous No.7397152]

>>7396923
>Getting triggered by the posts I made, showing residual evidence of the original title.
>Also ignores the other residual evidence I posted.
t. Retard

[Anonymous No.7397158]

>>7397152
Learn how to communicate without memespeak and then you can talk to me.

[Anonymous No.7397176]

>>7397158
>Wants to dictate how people talk to him.
Okay, SJWcel.

[Anonymous No.7398147]

>>7387438
Bro stfu
You're gay
Stop postin this everytime hoftd is mentioned. Nobody cares, sorry.

[Anonymous No.7398165]

>>7387419
They are shit without accessories, even with accessories they aren't much great

[Anonymous No.7398319]

>>7391586
>When you forgot you meds and the mandala effect suddenly is explained by ancient aliens logic

[Anonymous No.7398553]

Classic arcade stuffers. No arcade is complete without some light gun games.
>Putting 2 credits in so you could duel wield the guns

[Anonymous No.7398580]

>>7387938
HotD 1 and 2 are kings for having great enemy design and being challenging but fair. There are maybe 2 cheap shots in HotD 1, and if you know about them then you can stop them. Other shooters like Carnevil are just loaded with bullshit to eat your quarters, even though I like that game too.

[Anonymous No.7398620]

>50% of the top 10 arcade games were rail shooters

Was the genre this big in the US?

[Anonymous No.7398625]

>>7391586
meds, take 'em

[Anonymous No.7398632]

>>7391586
>Ever heard of CERN? Well they're behind these anomalies because they're smashing particles together

[Anonymous No.7398887]

>>7398147
>>7398319
>>7398625
>>7398632
t. Triggered anti-Mandela Effect anons

[Anonymous No.7399070]

Can you play Elemental Gearbolt without a gun and just use a controller?

[Anonymous No.7399075]

>he thinks CERN isn't behind everything
Wake up sheep

[Anonymous No.7400327]

[Anonymous No.7402291]

>>7398620
>solitaire challenge beating out NBA jam
what the actual fuck

[Anonymous No.7403887]

>>7387419
Quite fun

[Anonymous No.7403913]

>>7398620
Yes, every arcade had at least one or two gun games.

[Anonymous No.7403978]

>>7402291
Solitaire Challenge was a bar game like Golden Tee. Those games tend to do really well because there are a lot of bars and not many games produced for them. Also that was NBA Jam Tournament Edition, which was just an update like Super Street Fighter and such.

[Anonymous No.7405392]

>>7398887
>Maybe it's just my shitty memory
>no clearly it's a conspiracy theory
why can't schizo's accept that the fault is with them?

[Anonymous No.7405425]

>>7398887
>Maybe it's just my shitty memory
>no clearly it's a conspiracy theory
why can't schizo's accept that the fault is with them?

[Anonymous No.7407567]

>>7405425
>you just got s-s-shitty memory
>the mandela effect is just a c-c-c-conspiracy theory
>your residual evidence proves n-n-nothing
>you're a s-s-s-s-schizo
t. Triggered willfully ignorant anti-Mandela Effect anon

[Anonymous No.7407586]

>>7387554
>They're the perfect genre for virtual reality.

You would certainly think so.
Instead, VR devs are obsessed with trying to get the player to move around freely until they feel ready to puke.

[Anonymous No.7408418]

>>7407567
but I'm still not sure what you're trying to say. I posted my saturn copy which shows the formatting of the title. christ heres a pic of the arcade machine with the same format. I even posted >>7390901 which confirms what you're saying to some extent. However, you keep replying with nonsense about how later titles and a pair of crap films are the actual formatting and fonts of the original games title? Like I said, I don't understand what you are trying to prove. I'd bet most people wouldn't remember the exact formatting of the title either but they're not going to flat out deny it when they see it.

[Anonymous No.7408425]

>>7408418
forgot image lol

[Anonymous No.7408467]

>>7387434
They should come back now that every console has some amount of motion sensing/gyro built into the controllers.

[Anonymous No.7408654]

>>7408418
>>7408425
You have no idea how the Mandela Effect works. Changes can happened without you ever noticing. For example some people remember the Bernstein Bears instead of the Berenstain Bears. Some people remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 80's, but apparently he died in 2013. Some people remember Flinstones instead of Flintstones. There are some residual proof to some of these Mandela Effects. So yes it's spelled "The House Of The Dead". But it's also a Mandela Effect because I remember it simply as "House Of The Dead", with the "Of The" part being in the middle. Which is how the movie and the new game's logo both spell it. It's perfectly fine if you accept the logo the way it is, but it's not how I remember the original logo looking like, because in my reality, the "Of The" was always in the middle. Now do you understand?

[Anonymous No.7410249]

>>7408654
Alright I'll humour you
For a Mandela effect to occur a collective of people have to remember things differently, everyone here thinks otherwise and they remember it differently to you, which means there is no Mandela effect here and you just remember it wrong

[Anonymous No.7410382]

>>7410249
The amount of Mandela Effect evidence that I provided trumps the small amount of people who post on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.7410407]

>>7410249
Also there is more residual evidence. It says clearly "House Of The Dead 2" on the cover. Not "The House Of The Dead 2". Read em' and weep.

[Anonymous No.7410426]

>>7410249
This residual evidence is a very old one that covers the first game. The name only says "House Of The Dead".

[Anonymous No.7410428]

>>7410382
>>7410407
I know exactly who you are Wayne, you and your sega system shit can fuck off

[Anonymous No.7410543]

>>7410428
Wayne? As in Bruce Wayne? I wish. lol As for the Sega System, I never liked that anon. I always referred to it as the Sega Master System. The "master" part triggers the Sega System autist.

[Anonymous No.7412114]

>>7408654
Ok. I've got to say though that this isn't the mandela effect. Thinking someone died decades ago, thinking a film with a certain actor was released and a book about bear with two different names are examples of the mandela effect. Misremembering a logo and dropping "the" from the title is too vanilla of a mandela theory to be considered.

[Anonymous No.7412120]

but anyway, love me some THE THE HOUSE OF DEAD(tm). Virtua cop 1 is sick. Never played 2 though. Played the first route of starwing on snes, is that a rail shooter?

[Anonymous No.7412126]

>>7412114
The residual evidence I provided proves it is a Mandela Effect. It goes as far back as 1994.

[Anonymous No.7412165]

>>7412126
I guess you mean during the games development. Shit changes during development mate.

[Anonymous No.7412245]

>>7408654
Since Scarlet Dawn was released so recently, doesn't that mean your logic is backwards? If reality was rewritten, then it was obviously attempting to remove the "the" from the title and not add it. Your memories and the random magazine fliers are the only things that got rewritten, though. (Not the movies, though. Those intentionally changed the title slight to avoid people finding pic related when trying to look up the movie online)

You're the guy swearing up and down reality was rewritten to make us all remember wrong, when you're the one who got rewritten.

[Anonymous No.7412463]

>>7412165
Yes, but calling it "House Of The Dead" sounds better than "The House Of The Dead". The extra "The" makes the title sound off and way too long. Either way people have been referring to it only as House Of The Dead since playing it in the arcades and Sega Saturn.

>>7412245
I've been remembering it only as "House Of The Dead" long before Scarlet Dawn's release. The fact that I can find articles and magazine covers that dates back to the 90's with the words "House Of The Dead" without the extra "the" in the title, shows that it is a Mandela Effect. The fact that the movie "House Of The Dead" has "Of The" in the middle just as I remember it being spelled originally in the games and then is used that way again in Scarlet Dawn, shows that the residual evidence is correct in proving it's a Mandela Effect. To you, this reality is trying to "remove" the extra "the". To me, this reality successfully added the extra "the" but failed to add it in the newest game. By the way, I've been playing House Of The Dead since it's release in the arcades and Sega consoles in the 90's. That extra "the" sticks out like a sore thumb.

[Anonymous No.7412545]

>>7388412
The Justifier is such a rad name

[Anonymous No.7412559]

>>7412463
>I've been remembering it only as "House Of The Dead" long before Scarlet Dawn's release
Exactly. Your memories were modified, just like the flier. Scarlet Dawn was released after the change. Your memories are no longer viable evidence and you have no proof your "residual evidence" wasn't rewritten by reality just like your memories. Your whole argument is completely invalid.

[Anonymous No.7412656]

>>7412559
False. I've noticed this change before Scarlet Dawn's release and have spoken about it in the Mandela Effect Discord Server, and they said I had a good eye on spotting this. This was back in 2017. The residual evidence I provided is actual proof that the older games changed from "House Of The Dead" to "The House Of The Dead".

[Anonymous No.7412707]

>>7412656
>I've noticed this change before Scarlet Dawn's release
And that's the proof your memories were modified. If reality was rewritten to add a "The" to the title of the series, then it would make no sense for games released after that point to use the "pre-rewrite" title.

Now unless you can provide 100% hard proof that the pages you claim are "residual evidence" weren't rewritten alongside your memories, then this discussion is done and you need to leave.

[Anonymous No.7412712]

>>7412656
>and have spoken about it in the Mandela Effect Discord Server,
Why cant people on this site spot bait any more?

[Anonymous No.7413016]

>>7388091
blaming the world on your shitty ass memory is prime schizo shit friend

[Anonymous No.7413546]

>>7388091
no there isn't.

[Anonymous No.7413559]

>>7387419
tons of fun with the guncon, boring without

[Anonymous No.7413562]

>tfw you first see house of the dead 3
hnnng

[Anonymous No.7413568]

>>7413562
Niiice.