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>2021
>no english fan retranslation
Feels bad dude. Also rec me some Sega CD games. Multiplats are fine as long as the game is good.

>> No.7385136

>>7384992
its probably the issue with all the voiced scenes and no subtitles

>> No.7385180

>>7384992
Most WD games need a translation fix or a complete retranslation in some cases.
Terrible company.

But the fan-translation scene is in a poor state so don't expect anything.

>> No.7385241 [DELETED] 

>>7385180
The last one who offered to help with retranslations was hounded by a bunch of rabid "working designs fans", organizing on gainjinworks forums, resetera, and hardcoregaming101, to "convince" the romhacker to drop his fix romhacks for the ludicrous grinding and other anti-QoL changes by WD, and try and get them removed off anywhere online where he documented the changes. When they heard he had a blog with the content reuploaded they "politely requested" he deletes those as well and finish their job for them.

Those romhacks weren't even retranslations but fixes to restore the GAMEPLAY of the jp version, with a message he has the tools needed to help with a retranslation should a competent translator help. Even that INTENT was too much for those romhacks to be approved on RHDN or allowed to exist, according to resetera.

>> No.7385251

>>7385241
And people ask why trannies are widely hated here. Damn.

>> No.7385370

>>7384992
The real shame is that regardless of the translation, as a game it's just kinda boring. I was happy to fast forward the bad WD dub job, but the game behind it was pretty lackluster. That's what killed me.

>> No.7385652

>>7385241
why is retardera so mentally ill holy shit

>> No.7385657

>>7384992
>implying
OH, I BIFFED IT is iconic
Working Designs actual translations are cute, the problem is they would ruin the games by jacking the numbers up to shit and making them nearly unplayable.

>> No.7385681

>>7385657
>the problem is they would ruin the games by jacking the numbers up to shit and making them nearly unplayable.
I can understand the translation stuff, but why do that?

>> No.7385717

>>7385681
Video game rentals are banned in Japan, so RPGs of the era were much more laid back and simple than what we got in the West. Here they purposefully jacked the numbers up and made everything cost EXP or be retarded fucking grindy, just so you couldn't beat it in a weekend. The idea was that if you had to keep renting it over and over you'd just buy the damn game, and they'd get their shekels out of you.

>> No.7385730

>>7384992
You better be fucking playing Lords of Thunder, faggot

>> No.7385782
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I find the dub cute
>yfw

>> No.7385791

>>7385717
>Video game rentals are banned in Japan
that is kinda weird considering how big VHS Rentals(and through today with DVD/Blu-Ray) was in Japan, wonder what led them to have such a problem with Video Game rentals?

>> No.7385802

Forget that - how is it that it's 2021 and the best version of Snatcher is ONLY available for the Sega CD at $999 a pop?

This is a crime of extreme negligence.

>> No.7385808 [DELETED] 

>>7385241
I don't understand. Why would an optional patch to change the difficulty make them so angry?

>> No.7385812 [DELETED] 
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>>7385808
because they need the whole world to be a part of their make believe or else it reminds them.

>> No.7385840

>>7385812
I don't see how making changes in an old video game is going to affect their dysphoria. But I guess that is mental illness at work.

>> No.7385873

>>7385657
>Working Designs actual translations are cute, the problem is they would ruin the games by jacking the numbers up to shit and making them nearly unplayable.

There are a few jokes that made me groan in the WD translation. But for 1994 release, it was one of the better English localization. The voice actors were good enough. Good English localization were few and far between. Snatcher is another one, on the Sega CD that I would put in the good category.

>> No.7385882

>>7385802
>Forget that - how is it that it's 2021 and the best version of Snatcher is ONLY available for the Sega CD at $999 a pop?
>This is a crime of extreme negligence.


And then Konami releases the PC Engine version on the PCE Mini in English speaking regions in moon speak.

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7385956

>>7385812

>> No.7385974

>>7385241
Did the guy post his rebalance patch somewhere?? Can I find it somewhere?

>> No.7385980

>>7385974
>Did the guy post his rebalance patch somewhere?? Can I find it somewhere

Un-worked Designs?

https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=23436.0

>> No.7386015

>>7385980
Based, thanks

>> No.7386036

>>7385882
Could you potentially mod that though? Konami didn't have to include it - I thought it was a consolation on their part.

>> No.7386051

>>7384992
>Play Popful Mail
>the fuck? WD has made Mail into a huge cunt, she is totally unlikeable
>play it Japanese
>she actually is a huge cunt

>> No.7386226

>>7385652
Because theyre trannies

>> No.7386230

>>7384992
>B...BUT MUH JAPANESE VERSION!

Get fucked

>> No.7386435
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7386435

>>7384992

My list of notable games. Not necessarily good or to everyone's liking, just notable games.

>Popful Mail
>The Misadventures of Flink
>Robo Aleste
>Final Fight CD
>Sonic CD
>Shining Force CD
>Snatcher
>Micky Mania
>Earthworm Jim Special Edition
>Ecco: tides of Time
>Keio Flying Squadron
>Lords of Thunder
>Lunar: Eternal Blue
>Lunar: Silver Star
>Terminator
>Eternal Champions: Challenge from the Dark Side

>> No.7386450

>>7385882
>the best version of Snatcher is ONLY available for the Sega CD
Which Kojima had very little to do with, I believe.

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>>7385370
>The real shame is that regardless of the translation, as a game it's just kinda boring. I was happy to fast forward the bad WD dub job, but the game behind it was pretty lackluster. That's what killed me.

I'm not huge on the MCD version actually. It has big sprites and a lot of momentum in combat like she's fighting on ice. Rather than ports each version is radically different and built up.

PC-98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66mgwFTBpXw&t=446s

PC-Engine CD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFZ7v9wIolM

SFC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gJAkqet0Ck&t=978s

>> No.7386579

>>7384992
translations don't fix the shit gameplay

>> No.7386581

>>7385241
Why would anyone care what some twitter tranny thinks? Just don't even engage with them?

>> No.7387097
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7387097

Did Sonic make any other games?

>> No.7387204

>>7386581

They have the power to stalk and harass people because they're psychos with nothing better to do. They could start shit and call up your work and your boss is gonna take someone saying shit about you seriously.

>> No.7387225

>>7387204
That only works if you actually say something repugnant in which case you get what you deserve. If someone doxed me and called my work to tell the owner I think Vic Ireland was a talentless hack who almost always made games worse they'd just get laughed at.

>> No.7387283

>>7386450
AAAAAND?

>> No.7387287 [DELETED] 
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7387287

>That only works if you actually say something repugnant in which case you get what you deserve

>> No.7387290

>>7387283
I think he's implying Kojima isn't the reason most of the games he directed are good.

>> No.7387297

>>7385241
Christ Almighty, put down the pitchfork and stop spreading all this shit dude. Yes, people bullied the guy for his outspoken distaste for Working Designs, but there's no Tranny mafia keeping his stuff off of RHDN
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5614/

Also, pro-tip, Ms T (who provided a lot of important updates and fixes to this unworking design patch working alongside the original dude even when he was still active on it) is a prolific Sega CD, Saturn, and Lunar hacker and has helped on many projects involving hacks relating to providing better scripts and uncensoring stuff where possible, and is also helping with Magical School Lunar for Saturn at the moment, along with Trekkies.
She was also a He at some point.

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7387304

>>7387097
They became Camelot.
Yes, THAT Camelot.

>> No.7387309

>>7387304
I was just joking because I thought they ran out of room to type "Sonic Team", wtf. Learn something new every day.

>> No.7387329 [DELETED] 

>>7387287
You come across as someone who wants to go about loudly declaring trans people should be killed and blood drinking Jews ruined your life with zero consequences lol.

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7387336

>>7387329
>You come across as someone who wants to go about loudly declaring trans people should be killed and blood drinking Jews ruined your life with zero consequences

>> No.7387351

>>7387336
So I'm right? Lols

>> No.7387436

>>7384992
Use the UnWorked Designs patches. Lunar 1 and 2 and Vay are better with it.
>Sonic CD++
Incorporates Sonic 2 style spindash.
Unhacked recs:
>Shining Force CD
>Snatcher
>Slipheed
>Eternal Champions
>Batman and Robin

>> No.7388670

Why are there so many untranslated RPGs on this thing fucking hell

>> No.7389689

>>7388670
>Why are there so many untranslated RPGs on this thing fucking hell

Sega of America was more interested in publishing FMV games than localize JRPG's. The Mega CD/ Sega CD really did not have a lot of original RPG's. Ports of PC88/PC98 games, PCE-CDROM games, Famicom games, and games like Shining Force CD are enhanced ports of GameGear games. The system has quite a few anime/ manga licensed games as well. I guess Lunar 1 and 2, are some of the better original RPG's for the system. I always wanted to play that ShadowRun digital novel game.

>> No.7389712 [DELETED] 

>>7387329
jews want every white person dead so why shouldn't I want the same for them?

>> No.7390378

>>7389712
You're a fucking retard lol

>> No.7390692

>>7389712
BASED
>>7390378
Seething.

>> No.7390696

>>7390692
The one who's post wasn't deleted for being a bigoted conspiracy theory gobbler is seething? Lol okay go on and tell me about how the earth is flat and Tom Hanks drinks children's blood.

>> No.7390702 [DELETED] 

>>7390696
The guy forcing a fake laugh because someone attacked his precious jew overlords is seething, yeah. Go ahead and call your jannies back, they're the only ones who can protect your fragile mental state now.

>> No.7390718

>>7390702
It's not a fake laugh, you people are a literal joke to me. I press a button and you say something even more retarded on the next go. That you're unironically scared of Jews and then trying to say I'm seething over it is great.

>> No.7390747

>>7390718
Uh huh. You can lie to me anon, but you can't lie to yourself.

>> No.7390759

>>7390747
Lol okay. Care to redpill me on how the moon landing was fake and the earth is flat too?

>> No.7390771

>>7390759
>that non-subtle attempt to shift the discussion away from yourself
I also appreciate you doubling-down on the fake laughter, it would basically be like confirming what I said if you stopped the act now.

>> No.7390797

>>7390771
What do you actually think I'd be upset about? If someone unironically tells you they think the earth is flat and NASA is a huge conspiracy, does that make you angry? Or do you just look at them like they're mentally challenged and laugh to yourself? Maybe it's the former for you, but I don't really care about the opinions of anonymous strangers, I just think it's funny when they get pissy over something I think is ridiculous. I can certainly see why you'd be upset, believing that your life is secretly controlled by Jews but to me it's all the same comedy.

>> No.7390802

>>7390797
Yeah yeah, heard you the first time. I wonder why it is you're seeking my approval this much? I wonder if you've even noticed that's what you're doing?

>> No.7390828

>>7390802
I made it pretty clear I'm poking you so you say more shit I think is funny. Your panties are still in a twist over your other posts getting deleted, why stop now?

>> No.7390845

>>7390828
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/ambigamy/201508/how-need-less-affirmation

>> No.7390854

>>7390845
Kinda like how you're so deeply invested in me being upset that you're afraid of dem eeevil jews?

>> No.7390867

>>7390854
Since it's obvious you're just going to keep repeating your cope hoping for my affirmation, I'll just start linking you to the previous relevant posts.
see >>7390747, >>7390771, and >>7390802

>> No.7390883

>>7390867
Cool beans, keep up the protecting over how I must be upset over you being a conspiracy theory kid.

>> No.7390893

>>7390883
>protecting
>kid
Absolutely SEETHING

>> No.7390907

>>7390893
Yeah it hurts me so much you think the earth is flat. Ohh golly I'm mad. Real talk, I don't think you understand how conversations work.

>> No.7390938

>Click on Sega CD thread.
>Full of seething trannies.
Yep, that's about what I expected.

>> No.7391053

>>7387436
>>Sonic CD++
>Incorporates Sonic 2 style spindash.
NGL I kinda hate this idea, normal Spindash breaks the Time Attack in the Taxman version.

>> No.7391186

ahh yess... SOUL STAR... now that was a game...

>> No.7391229
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>>7385808
>>7385652
That's their thing. Even now resetera is still making threads monitoring the situation with the uncensor patches for Yakuza games and whether any of them restore the censored text (all mentions of "rape" or "toxic masculinity" cut out) or the cut side quests (hostesses and an actual evil tranny sidequest in Y3)

The fine folks doing it haven't restored those aspects yet, but it's mainly because of technical limitations with the remasters and their existing tools (they restored Judgement before), but it's worrying they got resetera's attention.

If you want a quick laugh - someone there posted some of the many "problematic lines" in Working Designs games, and THEN Supper's work became fine and coveted, and his blog was linked despite them a few years earlier trying to get it offline. Between that and their repeated raids against RHDN translators and even translation projects outside RHDN's influence (the Great Ace Attorney project, which they wanted "localized" under the "control" of an editor from NeoGAF (proto-resetera) ) they're a net negative for gaming.

Moral of the story? Supper stopped, but someone else fluent in Japanese who shares the distaste for WD trash should step up and do Popful Mail or Silhouette Mirage justice. Maybe Alundra, Rayearth, and Lunar for good measure.
"Someone else will do it if there's enough interest" doesn't really work, there's harassment involved and there's trying to get the romhack pulled off RHDN over technicalities (this pixel perfect reproduction of a PS1 font is infringing on the copyright of Game Arts, this translation that replaces Ted Woosley's script uses some sentences from a copyrighted GBA game) that NEVER get invoked anywhere else, would invalidate 90% of the submitted romhacks, and are dubious legal opinions. Speaking of which, >>7387297 Supper's romhacks were never approved on RHDN's database. Your example is a modified version of one of his Unworked Designs releases.

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>>7391229
>Even now resetera is still making threads monitoring the situation with the uncensor patches for Yakuza games
Jesus fucking christ this is peak mental illness.
>>7391229
>The fine folks doing it haven't restored those aspects yet
Thankfully someone did manage to restore the text in 4, there's a guide for it on Steam that I used. It also has the rape line among many others.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2377544176

>> No.7391786

>>7391754
>>7391229

They sound like emotionally unstable control freak psychopaths.

>> No.7391803

Speaking of WD, how fucked is the Saturn Magic Knight Rayearth localization? I see a hack that reverts their gameplay changes but keeps their dub, and another that removes their dub but keeps their gameplay changes. I honestly don't which one to choose.

>> No.7391808

>>7391786
that's why they all grew up here

>> No.7391818
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7391818

I really don't understand what's ResetEra's endgame here.
When people did porn or crass hacks of NES games in the late 90's and early 00's no one gave a semblance of a fuck.

>> No.7391915
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>>7386435
Why is dark wizard always left out? I found it superior to shining force CD in almost every possible way. Shining CD was stripped down bare bones game gear port and I felt cheated when I first rented it back when it was new. It was vastly inferior to SF1 or 2 and brought nothing new or memorable. They stripped out the towns and most of the RPG elements of the game due to gamegear limitations, and then just dumped it onto a CD as a recycled cash grab. I have gone back to replay SF1 & 2 several times since their release, but I have not touched CD version since the day I returned it to the rental store as it had zero replay value.

Dark wizard was like a hybrid of shining force meets "master of monsters", and your hero units were joined with monster units that all grew and evolved. There were also four different campaigns that gave unique play throughs from each other and offered a huge difference in difficulty.

The anime cutscenes were nice and CD orchestra music made it feel like an actual sega CD game.

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>>7391915
Krystal was hot as fuck too. Weakest leader in the game though.

>> No.7392091

>>7385802
There isn't even an uncensor patch for it too. What the fuck

>> No.7392109

>>7391915
I really should play it. SF CD also disappointed me but what you describe sounds fun.

>> No.7392116

>>7391803
It's surprisingly decent. I think because Rayearth was originally comedic and starts in the real world Vic's pop culture jokes fit better which is usually one of the worst things about their translations.

>> No.7392185

>>7392109
If you do play it, read the hero section on gamefaqs first because who you pick and how you play them could really affect the pacing and enjoyment of the game, but there is nothing in-game saying which is the "beginner route". Very little is explained in game, and most things you learn through trial and error in multiple playthroughs.

Some things are not intuitive, like a Greater lich is more of a high defense tank unit who paralyzes enemies, rather than a spellcasting skeleton mage. Some units that you expect to be awesome are not, and others will pleasantly surprise you how good they are.

Or go in blind and still have fun, but I know on one of my early playthroughs I picked a hero who really didn't work with my play style and I couldn't get the cooler units I wanted.

That music too... heroic battle marche to creepy vampire violin song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhgHT1yG-mE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnLXQkkscy8&list=PLE22CA7B30F43432A&index=4

>> No.7392190

>>7392185
Cool thanks for the input. I usually go in blind and only look into guides if I'm stuck or feeling lost but might read up a little first.

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>>7391229
>all mentions of "rape" or "toxic masculinity" cut out
God forbid a game mentions something that would be a reasonable concern.

>> No.7392241

>>7391803
It's fucked up.
The protagonists (underage girls) fantasize about anal sex every single time they examine books, beds, chests, desks, tables, etc. Obviously, the JP version had none of that.

Albert Odyssey Gaiden is a similar story but with Ebonics.
Shining Wisdom had all references to Shining series cameos replaced with a PS1 game reference or nothing, because Vic Ireland hated how a meeting with Sega went or something.

>>7391818
Gamer is an insult there, and years ago they were in the top 5 referrals for a certain election campaign. Imagine soccer moms that tried not only to get content offensive to them removed, but replaced with the gospel of jehovah's witnesses everywhere without context and preferably against the wishes of the target audience (win: escapism is bad anyways) and competing soccer moms (win: yet another culture wall hill). then add some overall Stalinian mood.

dick porn NES romhacks are allowed if they advance the party goals AND the intent to do so was made explicit by the author for it to count. So, political dick porn NES romhacks are fine.

However resetera is a hellhole, so there's an ever present chaotic element.
Kind of their thing with using the PI of their banned members immediately after a ban to contact their workplaces and homes with abuse or false claims to finish off the target (a fellow reseteratard, no less!) in REAL life. When they had a mass exodus from their old cult HQ, one of the mods compiled a megalist of people who didn't show up fast enough, and started the doxxing machinegun on every single one of them.

Then when NoA / Level-5 America did exactly their fever dream localization resetera wanted: a game that covers up the princess from the jp version, and has a slime ingame who complains "they censored the princess!", and the hub is called "cofvefe cafe", a certain "princess melonia" or something ... they said the jokes are funny but the localizers should still be cancelled for the "trigger". Immediate dox.

>> No.7392243

>>7392241
>The protagonists (underage girls) fantasize about anal sex every single time they examine books, beds, chests, desks, tables, etc.
I legitimately can't tell if you're memeing on me or not.

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>>7392243

>> No.7392248

>>7391818
>I really don't understand what's ResetEra's endgame here.

They're radicalized narcissistic self-righteous losers. They believe they are on the forefront o a cultural revolution and if they erase anything that might cause distress to a marginalized person or promotes harmful ideas, they will create a utopia. That is why something as stupidly minor as a video game translation is a huge hill to die upon. Each piece of the puzzle of the patriarchy is just as important as each other.

>> No.7392257

>>7392241
>>7392248
How can people be this self-righteous and retarded holy fuck.
People from usenet were right, the Internet shouldn't had become wide-access, it should've remained in University labs and a niche group of nerds.

>> No.7392269

>>7392257
You really can't tell that's bait? Oy vey, Anon.

>> No.7392341

>>7392269
>Resetera being harmful retards is bait
Nani

>> No.7392363

>>7392341
Were those legit quotes from there? Tbh I've never been to the site, but if that's from there it's delightful.

>> No.7392574

>>7390938
You can't make any thread mentioning working designs here without that schizo coming in and posting novels for days about some cabal of trannies from resetera. I open these threads every time I see them just to laugh

>> No.7392814 [DELETED] 

>>7392574
>You can't make any thread mentioning working designs here without that schizo coming in and posting novels for days about some cabal of trannies from resetera. I open these threads every time I see them just to laugh


I don't lurk enough in these types of threads to know if this is true or not. But yeash, if true. Something that I would prefer to stay away from.

>> No.7393383

>>7392243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbPzeOzxm98

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>>7393383

Completely out of left field. I laughed.

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>>7384992
"YA DUNDERHEAD!"

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>>7385241
pic related

>> No.7393481 [DELETED] 

>>7393439
What "hateful" word did he include that caused the uproar? "trap"?

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>>7393481
Oh nevermind I found it. The Japanese original used newhalf I am guessing?

>> No.7393495

why is there a retard that keeps spamming to come here in every board and say whatever the fuck about sega? please lock your autists properly

>> No.7393502 [DELETED] 

>>7393490
yes; he translated it (accurately) as "tranny", a word that is sometimes a slur, but sometimes used by trannies themselves.
the same is the case with newhalf.
what ensued was a total fucking meltdown by people who mostly don't speak japanese to begin with, and/or desperately ignoring japanese attitudes towards transgenderism, both in the past and the present

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>>7393502
Tranny has been semi-derogatory for what? half a decade? A lot of trans people still use it.

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>>7393439
I wonder if "newhalf" should be one of those words left as is, but I guess they would get upset anyway.

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>>7393524
then you have this problem

>> No.7393530

>>7393528
Exactly. There really is no pleasing everyone.

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>>7393524
They will always find something to be angry about. Latinx. Deadnaming. Assault pronouns.

Tgirl, tranny,shemale, ladyboy, all all suddenly evil words. Soon "trans" and "TS" will be banned hate words, and a new vague word will replace them. They wont tell you when the old words get banned, they will simply wait for you to say the old word and then call you a nazi.

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>>7393524
The actual reason they were upset was that the lead romhacker had "resetera is cancer" in his bio (which is caused by resetera getting the 2nd top contributor in romhacking.net, a very active romhacker who only does feminist "playable zelda" romhacks, banned for not approving a trans lives matter romhack FAST ENOUGH)

Nothing about the contents of the game, or the personality of the romhackers/translators involved (given the sort of work they translated before), mattered.
Some heathen insulted the cult, and had to be culled.

If you check resetera, they're RIGHT NOW trying to cancel the Yakuza restoration author because he used "cancel culture" to describe what happened to Judgement and Yakuza 4 with the replaced unpersoned actors.
Since you brought up Goemon 3, if you look up their outrage thread about it, you can actually see the brainstorming session where they look for the best "marketable" cause to launch the controversy with. They actually tried to accuse the romhacker of being a nazi over the manjis still in the game (a game notoriously hard to hack, by the by.) and they knew the Goemon series as a whole are "problematic", so much even those rare few extra-censored official Goemon localizations couldn't completely hide it.

The point: while you're all sitting on your asses just lamenting this situation or saying "learn Japanese" even to the rare few /vr/ autists who try to do translation projects here, they're compiling lists of romhack authors with wrong opinions and preparing their replacements with their own to enforce their standards. There's already some attempts to pozz The Great Ace Attorney or Sakura Taisen, and that Lunar Magical School project is already compromised. The romhacking scene did some decent pushback against resetera daring to try and harass someone out of his hobby with the complicity of gatekeepers like HG101 and RHDN.net, but much more needs to be done.
If you know Japanese and/or can bother learning to romhack, step up.

>> No.7393797

>>7385180
>repeats what some youtube cuck says

>> No.7393801

>>7385681
WD was actually praised for their translation quality for for a while. /vr/ is full of history re-writing faggots.

>> No.7393815

>>7385136
Some fan translations have re-encoded the cutscenes with subtitles.

>> No.7393823

>>7393793
>lists of romhack authors with wrong opinions
This in particular begs some clarification because of the incredible political polarization going on.

Wrong opinions according to resetera aren't just the support of "Establishment Candidate A" over "Establishment Candidate B", or the lack of of enthusiasm in supporting B, or staying silent on the matter (all "wrong opinions", by the way).

Even some autist raving about translation theory and the need for accurate translations,
a developer who sings the praises of a challenging battle system,
an artist who strongly believes in creative freedom / the value of art / opposes the death of the author / views those works as oeuvres rather than purely consumer products that need to be broken down to the lowest denominator,
someone who distrusts game journalists, someone who objects to harassment tactics or stalinian style unpersoning,
even "gamers" who use gaming as part of an identity...
are wrong opinions terrible enough to warrant abuse and trying to cancel this individual.

Sure enough, this makes them very incompatible with the romhacking scene because SO MUCH is off limits by resetera standards.

>> No.7393894

>>7393495
You're gonna have to be a little more specific anon, believe it or not Sega still has its fans.

>> No.7393895

>>7393801
Keyword "was", yeah. Like in the 90's and early 2000's when people legitimately didn't know any better. Glad they've been exposed since.

>> No.7394059

>>7393801
Some still praise them, opinions vary. But I was pissed off at the Clinton and other pop culture references and I bought Lunar 2 the week it came out.

>> No.7394934
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7394934

>Yeah it hurts me so much you think the earth is flat. Ohh golly I'm mad. Real talk, I don't think you understand how conversations work.

>> No.7394942

>>7393797
Fuck off Vic.

>> No.7394964

>>7393801
>WD was actually praised for their translation quality for for a while. /vr/ is full of history re-writing faggots.

Contextually, at the time, WD games were some of the better English localisations. But this was also from a time when voice acting was still uncommon in games (regulated to CD-ROM) and most Japanese to English translations were done by the Japanese studios poorly. So, different standards.

>> No.7394973

>>7394934
Lol sorry I upset you.

>> No.7394978

>>7394973
>t. seething tranny

>> No.7394992

>>7394978
What am I supposed to be seething over again? That you're a retard who legit believes conspiracy theories? Also I'm all man, man.

>> No.7394995

>>7394992
>i-i totally don't know why I'm seething!
lmao okay tranny.

>> No.7395005

>>7394995
Okay lol. So you just keep repeating it hoping becomes true despite there not even being anything to be upset over? My insults against you are real at least.

>> No.7395013

>>7395005
>i-i'm totally not seething bro please believe me ;~;
lmao okay tranny.
>you just keep repeating it hoping becomes true
yes this is what you're doing when you seek verbal affirmation that you aren't seething.

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7395016

>>7393793
I wonder how feasable would be for an anon with a new fake username and no internet "backstory" as is to create a new website for romhacks like RHDN? It was a bad idea to give them full monopoly, it's a microcosm of centralization within the romhacking community, so some competition could actually help push back.
Again, I have no idea why the actual fuck people LISTEN to Resetera? I won't go for the easy lowhanging fruit of calling them trannies, but instead honestly say the truth:

The userbase clearly are people who don't like or play videogames, or even like Japanese culture, or ANY culture outside of the United States. Why give them so much leeway? They'll never be pleased as their actual pleasure derives FROM controversy and "just cause warring", and will never actually buy videogames or support any sort of official or unofficial release.

>>7393801
Translation, localization and consumer standards change with time.

>> No.7395025

>>7395013
I enjoy calling stupid people stupid and watching them squirm and you are astonishingly stupid. Also afraid Jews are secretly ruling his life and probably afraid of black people too. You're a comedy slot machine.

>> No.7395029

>>7395025
Interesting seethe anon, tell me more.

>> No.7395037

>>7395029
People legit afraid of Jews usually also buy into other stupid shit, so why don't you elaborate? Are you the same guy who thinks Fauci helped make the coronavirus and the election was rigged? Give me some more juice.

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>>7395037
I see. Does this character have a name? Can you tell me how you envision his upbringing? What other evil deeds does he do?

>> No.7395057

>>7395042
You're the character, you tell me where your fear of Jews comes from lol.

>> No.7395062

>>7395057
So it's a meta story? Truly fascinating anon. Please keep going.

>> No.7395085

>>7395062
Are you claiming not be afraid of the Jewish conspiracy now? That's a cute twist.

>> No.7395090

>>7395062
>>7395085
Holy fuck, shut up, both of you.

>> No.7395091

>>7395085
Wow, I like it! The character has quite the complex characterization. Does the jewish conspiracy actually exist in this world? Or is it merely a fabrication in his own mind?

>> No.7395095

>>7395091
Sadly your posts on the subject were deleted but it's fun how now after all this you're back pedaling like a mad man.

>> No.7395103

>>7395095
So he has trouble with the law too? Sounds like quite the trouble maker.

>> No.7395106

>>7395103
Like I say, you're astonishingly stupid lol

>> No.7395107

>>7395095
>>7395103
You know, you two could be fucking a dead dog together, but instead you're choosing to fight on the internet.
Fuckin kids these days..

>> No.7395108

>>7395106
Gotcha, he's the impulsive type of criminal.

>> No.7395118

>>7395107
Meh it's good times poking tards and this is a trash thread anyways.

>> No.7395125

>>7395118
I understand, so you're also in the story as a knight of sorts wading through a valley of villains. Go on.

>> No.7395139

>>7395125
Not even in the ballpark lol

>> No.7395149

>>7395139
I see, so the hero has an extreme case of denial and has shut himself off from others. That's not good. How can he turn this around?

>> No.7395160

>>7395149
Even further lol

>> No.7395173

>>7395160
Sorry, I didn't mean to put you on the spot. Would you like to go back to discussing the villain and jewish conspiracy subplot? You seemed more comfortable discussing that.

>> No.7395192

>>7395173
I like the part where someone admitted to believing something retarded and I made fun of him enough he's now back pedaling like mad. No one is close to a villain, but it's fun you're also too dumb to grasp that bit too.

>> No.7395202

>>7395192
So the villain is dimwitted and bullied by the hero? A tragic origin story for sure.

>> No.7395214

>>7395202
Villains and heroes have no role in any of this lol

>> No.7395215
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7395215

Imagine being such a fucking beta, that you're bothered by the existence of trans people. Meanwhile, you never even met one in your life because you live in cow-tipping country with a population of 13.

>> No.7395216

>>7395214
I see, the so hero is more of the anti-hero type. He doesn't believe in good or evil and merely vanquishes the villain for his own purposes.

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7395251

>>7387204
imagine having your personal information on the internet

>> No.7395253

>>7395216
Real talk, I don't think you understand how conversations work.

>> No.7395268

>>7395253
So the villain has a communication deficiency to boot. No wonder he's so evil with all these faults.

>> No.7395301

>>7395268
And illiterate to boot :)

>> No.7395310

>>7395301
My goodness. What other serious flaws does he have?

>> No.7395336

>>7395251
I fucking hate social media and centralization, they fucking ruined what used to be the most basic golden rule of the internet since the 90's: Don't give your fucking PRIVATE information.

Bitches.

>> No.7395360

>>7395310
A multitude I'm sure lol

>> No.7395418

>>7395360
Right, of course. Could you list some of them?

>> No.7395424

>>7395418
The only concrete one is he's invested in being called a villain when he's actually just a convenient retard. As to others it seems likely there's a plethora more due to his obvious stupidity but what they are I don't care enough to muse upon.

>> No.7395430

>>7395424
I see, so the the villain is delusional and possibly not really evil, while the hero indifferent to the matter.

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7395675

>>7395251
Oh shit, that means my faint recollection of an obscure event might actually have happened...
Does anyone remember a very minor controversy in the late 2000s when YouTube closed down some guy's channel because he used his real name for it? I have tried to find anything about this for years as a way of showing people how ridiculous things have gotten on the web, with no luck

>> No.7395676

>>7395430
Yeah, I get you're functionally illiterate so you don't understand what a villain is. But no, you're not a villain, just a convenient retard and prop.

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7396068

Popful Mail or Sister Sonic?

>> No.7396163

>>7396068
>Popful Mail or Sister Sonic?

The Japanese had a revolt over that announcement! It might have been better for sales if they went with Sister Sonic though. it would be the exact same game but reskinned with Sonic characters, starring a new female "sister". This character would likely still be a major player in the Sonic series to this day too.

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7396834

>>7395016
>people LISTEN to Resetera
That isn't what happens most of the time. Normal people (even those otherwise "SJW" or anti-Trump by pol standards) are indifferent, or mock it in a non-controversy setting. Content creators who go out of their way to cater to ResetEra (organizing AMAs there, for example) are reviled.

What DOES happen is that ResetEra honed gamedev harassment tactics to a science, and used it to great effect to pressure some developers and game localizers to "kiss the ring" in various ways. For that, they give invites to localizers and game journalists, and they help both on the inside and outside steer the controversy in the direction resetera wants no matter how adverse to the company's finances. Of course a company can be willing to stand their ground (Ion Fury) so they'll try and get more well-timed articles from Kotaku, Polygon, RPS, Siliconera, etc. and even try and involve MSM. But that negative word of mouth is limited to that. ResetEra members also control r/games on reddit (this is known because they bragged about it) and very often, any time a given controversy blows up, it's usually brainstormed on their pedo discords then on the forums then immediately a blitz of articles, reddit threads, and some twitter threads that can be traced back to them appear at the same time.

The treatment of fan project authors isn't much different.
The chokehold will be the mod aggregator websites (already infiltrated by some sympathetic mods), a tiny subset of romhackers (all members of resetera and hg101 boards curiously) who will threaten to pull everything from the website if the full list of demands that appeared FIRST on resetera isn't satisfied to the letter (kissing the ring, purging the work, purging the offenders AND their supporters, entrenching resetera agents), otherwise then Kotaku will run an article about the aggregators and "ask Nintendo for comment".
Resetera tries to give invites to known romhackers failed, they're still outsiders.

>> No.7396854

>>7396834
Lol

>> No.7396865

>>7395016
Any step towards diversifying romhack output will help fix this sad state of affairs.
There were other aggregator websites that did everything that RHDN does, but they were abandoned. Even beyond worrying about resetera's gay ops, RHDN is unreliable as a hosting service. Newer system romhacks aren't hosted there, bigger romhacks use external hosting and many are already dead links, many of the existing stuff is worthless (very unfinished, patch needs to be converted to a sane usable format), undubs and uncensor patches aren't uploaded there, anonymous romhacks aren't, specific games get rejected for arbitrary reasons (anyone outraged at Piko last week will love to hear the list of translations that get pulled at the request of bootleggers who don't even OWN THE IP) and all the while you're lulled into a sense of false security that there's a website somewhere that does this shit.

>> No.7396908

>>7386435
Eternal champions was amazing on SCD solely for it being even more violent than MK was at the time.

I mean,watch some of those kills some time, MK fatalities are goofy in comparison.

>> No.7396927

>>7396865
>hear the list of translations that get pulled at the request of bootleggers who don't even OWN THE IP
oooh tell me!

>>7396834
>Ion Fury
Oh yeah,what happened after they actually stood on their ground, on a rare display of integrity?

>> No.7398257

>>7396908
Is that what was supposed to make it good? It was so clunky I wondered why anyone liked it.

>> No.7398272

>>7384992
>muh trannies! muh working designs! muh accuracy!
How many times must we tell you to LEARN JAPANESE and stop having to depend on mentally ill internet people with a JLPT N4 and too much time in their hands.

>> No.7398624

>>7396068
Depends if they were gonna pull a Kirby's Avalanche (blatant reskin of existing game, in this case Puyo Puyo) or a Kirby's Dream Course (inspired by another game but ultimately different enough to be its own thing, in this case Special Tee Shot).

>> No.7398667

>>7398624

it sounds like a blatant reskin with the same levels, story, and characters, just switched around.

Cast would likely be:

>Sister Sonic
>Sonic
>Knuckles
>Miles

>> No.7398839

>>7395676
Oh no, the villain is a prop now too? Just who is the real mastermind behind all this?

>> No.7398893

>>7387336
this desu

>> No.7398903 [DELETED] 

>>7393793
Media is so fucked, lol.
This is why retards should've never enabled these faggots. It will never be enough.

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>>7385791
This is the reason why.

>> No.7398979

>>7398839
You really are a special brand of stupid.

>> No.7399037 [DELETED] 

>>7398903

A lot of gaming media is on their side and posts to resetera. It's considered a good virtuous thing to be an "ally" of LGBTQ++ now. This allows them to emotionally blackmail you since your self-worth is now outsourced to a bunch of deranged weirdos. They're also Marxist style revolutionaries with ends justifies the means approach so they're also open to real blackmail as well. they're psychopaths.

>> No.7399683

>>7398667
But how could you have the Sonic cast without Sonic gameplay? It kind of feels like Sister Sonic was doomed from the start if tha's the case.

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7399741

>>7399683
>>>7398667
>But how could you have the Sonic cast without Sonic gameplay? It kind of feels like Sister Sonic was doomed from the start if tha's the case.

It seems like the "Sister Sonic" idea was Sega's (perhaps, Sega of America?), and Falcom didn't like the idea, because it is a remake of one of their games.

>> No.7399781

>>7399741

The project was announced and it was a letter writing campaign by Popful Mail fans that got them to stop. So that means Falcom was on board. Reminder that they didn't work on the Sega CD version so it's all free money of a game they made a few years ago.

>> No.7400112

>>7399781
>The project was announced and it was a letter writing campaign by Popful Mail fans that got them to stop.

The PC98 Popful Mail fan group who were excited for the Mega CD release? That must be a niche but vocal group.

It is interesting that Popul Mail has never had a sequel. The PC-88 game was ported to many platforms. NEC did their own port for the PCE CD-ROM. Sega did their own remake for the Mega/ Sega CD. Falcom did another remake for the Super Famicom in Japan.

>> No.7400139

>>7400112
>The PC98 Popful Mail fan group who were excited for the Mega CD release? That must be a niche but vocal group.

It also was released for the PC-Engine CD. Popful Mail was a decent hit so it would have had a following. It's why it got ported to every damn system possible. The Mega CD might have had an eye at the American audience given the Mega Drive was more popular there than the PCE-CD.

>> No.7400193

>>7400139
>The Mega CD might have had an eye at the American audience given the Mega Drive was more popular there than the PCE-CD.

The Turbo Graphix-16 was basically dead in the North American market by the time 1994 rolled around. Retailers basically stopped stocking the machine in 1993. One of the reasons why Snatcher was ported to the Sega CD, because there was no way to sell the TG16 CD-ROM version in the west. So, the Sega CD version was made for western audiences only, as this version was never released in Japan. Lords of Thunder for the Sega/ Mega CD is the same. It was only released in EU and NA. Because there was already a PCE-CDROM version available in Japan. Even back then, the Mega/ Sega CD was looked at as a system targeted more for western audiences, while the PCE-CDROM was targeted at the Japanese market.

>> No.7400262

Popful Mail is very interesting, the Mega CD and Super Famicom versions are two distinct remakes and the PCE CD version is pretty much a PC-98 port with more colors and less resolution, They're fundamentally the same game, but the 3 versions feel very different.

>> No.7400297

>>7400262

Yeah PCE-CD and PC98 are the most similar. But PC98 has much better graphics and resolution, but PCE-CD has so much better scrolling. I haven't played either, but I know PC98 has bump combat but what about the PCE-CD?

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>>7400262
>the PCE CD version is pretty much a PC-98 port with more colors and less resolution,

This one has very different animated cutscenes from the MCD version.

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>>7400352

>> No.7400530

>>7400476

Love how the top one looks exactly like a 80's Japanese office setting despite it supposed to being medieval.

>> No.7400567

>>7385812
imagine being so obsessed with trannies you have to project them everywhere
It's ok anon, we get it, you watch tranny porn

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>>7400530
>Love how the top one looks exactly like a 80's Japanese office setting despite it supposed to being medieval.

I'm not really sure what the context is suppose to be. Mail is laying down on this guys table with a bottle of wine. I guess he put out the bounty for the nutscracker guy? He owns a winery? Image related is the same moment in the Super Famicom version.

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>>7400567

>> No.7400848

>>7400567
You're probably not far off. When someone is this obsessed it's usually for a reason like all those preachers who go on and on about how horrible gays are then get caught giving blow jobs to their pool boy. When every insult is "you will never be a woman" regardless of context it speaks volumes about him.

>> No.7402486

>>7400578
It's a pretty comedic game I assumed it was done just to add some silliness.

>> No.7402567

>>7385791
They wanted to make sure you bought the games instead of renting them. Sly Japanese ppl

>> No.7402570

>>7385802
Lucky, I got two copies lol

>> No.7402571

>>7386435
Nice score on Keio. I remember that 200 dollar game in the early 2000s

>> No.7404630

>>7387297
>t. roon

>> No.7404770

>>7385251
At least Poison is loveable.

>> No.7404894

>>7402486
>It's a pretty comedic game I assumed it was done just to add some silliness.

Pretty sure Popful Mail was heavily inspired by the Slayers series, and was also meant to have a bit of lewdness/ fan service for the PCC98 audience. Though Mail in the Sega CD/ Mega CD version is less cutesy.

>> No.7404967

>>7400567
>>7400848
>t. IDF

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>> No.7405004

>>7387225
Go the fuck back

>> No.7405053

>>7387225
>repugnant

To you western subhumans, that means not agreeing with antiracist pseudoscience and gene denial.