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>> No.7369385

>Simon goes from wearing cool leather to boring armor

Massive downgrade

>> No.7369413

>>7369385
This, chads dont need armor

>> No.7369524

I really like the Mario and Samus ones

>> No.7369626

>>7369524
the samus sprite in nes metroid is one of its worst faults.

>> No.7369714
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So /vr/, which one?

>> No.7369745

i mean they are improvements but unless i can play the games with these spites why bother?

>> No.7369995

>>7369714
of those games, super metroid has by far the best art.

>> No.7369997

>>7369331
Is this loss?

>> No.7370302

>>7369331
Happa Mario>SMW Mario

>> No.7370305

>>7369714
Castlevania IV is the preferred heterosexual answer.

>> No.7371110

>>7369331
soul / soulless

>> No.7371403

>>7369331
SNES SMB Mario just looks like SMW Mario

>> No.7371963

>>7369331
Those are pretty unappealing even if you don't consider the basic requirement of contrast which is a must in actually usable pixel art.

The Mario and MM ones might work in that sense, but the Link and Belmont wouldn't at all unless the background was a neutral color void like the artist has conveniently chosen to present them in.

>> No.7372046

>>7369331
There's hack for Mega Man 1 that makes him look look like this and its terrible. Mario and Samus don't look bad though.

>> No.7372137

>>7369714
why was links hair pink anyway?

>> No.7372145

>>7372137
He was going through a phase

>> No.7372150

>>7372137
>It works like this: in an SNES game, any one tile/sprite in the can only use 16 different colors at a time (thus the term 16-bit). Normal Link and bunny Link use the same set of colors (palette), which does not include a yellow-brown for Link's hair. This is because, with the pink for the bunny included, there isn't enough room in the palette for that extra color.

>> No.7372452
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>>7372150
It would be weird if it really was a design decision derived from limitations:
Why was it mandatory for both versions of Link to be the same "entity"? Plenty of games switch spritesets for character switching, and the bunny character is pretty simple (just walking animations)
And even if it NEEDED to be the same spriteset for some reason: aren't the colored tunics handled through palette changes in the game? Why not use the same method to swap between regular/bunny palettes? I'm pretty sure the SNES could do that shit on the fly.

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>>7369714
I never liked Mario's weird pompadour in SMW, he looks like a racist italian caricature. Also the red and blue hues of the clothing were off.

MegaMan looks great and infinitely superior to the original sprite, though it was a bit too big to a point the screen looked too crowded most of the time. The MMX proportions are more appropriate for a MegaMan game

Link looks a bit dorky, but so did the original so whatever.

Everything in Super Metroid looks awesome in comparison to the original.

Whatshisface Belmont in SCIV always felt awkward to me. The animation is weird and the rendering looks it would fit in an Amiga shovelware game

>> No.7372998

>>7372874
>MegaMan looks great and infinitely superior to the original sprite
disagree. Megaman's new sprite has too much emotion, making it look like just X 2.0. The original expression is fitting because its more robotic.

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>>7369714
MegaMan look as intended

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>>7372998
>The original expression is fitting because its more robotic
That's unintentional though. He's supposed to be basically an Astroboy "homage" (ie ripoff), a character that was extremely expressive and Disney-esque.

It's just the team wasn't exactly Capcom's A-team, all pretty young people including Inafune, who did most of the art himself (he was never a crack artist even after years at Capcom)

>> No.7373278

>>7372874
>Mario's weird pompadour
he doesn't have one. that's the brim of his hat.

>> No.7373284
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>>7372452

>> No.7373290

>>7372874
>he looks like a racist italian caricature
Wtf are you on about? we love Mario
>t. italian

>> No.7373298

>>7373284
Tremble in terror, /vr/

>> No.7373308

>>7373298
i'm sorry for what i've unleashed upon the world.

>> No.7373514
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>>7373290
ive notice this confusion with many non Americans, but just because a design isnt done an insulting manner and is flattering, doesnt mean it isnt a racist caricature. Some of my favorite characters are nothing but an American stereotype

>> No.7373518

>>7373514
That's an inaccurate but flattering stereotype. It's different to an (inaccurate or not) unflattering one.

>> No.7373686

>>7373518
typing out, "flattering but inaccurate stereotype" is awkward. Its more shorthand just to write racist. but if you write racist, then you trigger the conservatives like this guy >>7373290

its a lose-lose situation.

>> No.7373707

>>7373686
nothing he said indicated conservatism.

>> No.7373725

Mario was far more of a stereotype back when he was played up as an actual Italian guy from Brooklyn. And it was better that way.

>> No.7373753

>>7373514
>ve notice this confusion with many non Americans, b
only sjw americans will get upset over shit like that in behalf of other people. Like with Sppedy Gonzales, actual Mexicans like it, enought that there's still bootleg merch with Speedy there but Muhricans banned them and get outraged on mexican's behalf

>> No.7374748

>>7372452
Why do you act like a bunch of gachapon matter?

>> No.7374764

>>7372998
>The original expression is fitting because its more robotic
He was never portrayed as an emotionless robot in any of the official art.
In fact, none of the robot masters were.

>> No.7374774

>>7374764
Megaman fans are desperate for edgy non-canon takes on the character. That's why they say he's an emotionless robot, and ignore game canon to jerk off over shitty emo music fanfiction about the games.

>> No.7374785

>>7369331
the mario bros 3 sprite was not good.


>Too big for levels
>easy target against projectiles

there are people who still put him above mario world LMAO

>> No.7374816

>>7373753
>actual Mexicans like it,
like i said, non Americans dont seem to get this. We dont care if youre upset or love the caricature or not, it is still a racist caricature. When we call something racist, were not asking
>are you personally upset this? how can we help?
we are just acknowledging that the material makes parodies you in some form.

>> No.7374827

>>7374785
they're literally the exact same size

>> No.7374831

>>7374816
Mario is not Italian.

>> No.7374845

>>7374831
Mario is Italian.

>> No.7374848

>>7374845
He is Japanese. the only version of it that is close to being Italian comes from the donkey kong franchise

>> No.7374851

>>7374848
What are you doing on /vr/ tonight, Miyamoto?

>> No.7374869

>>7374851
Are the big noses on purpose? Dante and vergil who repeat the same type of allegory have big noses and of course ... the colors

>> No.7374937

>>7374848
oof, madone.
he's from Brooklyn, jerk off face.

>> No.7374950

>>7374937
nintendo made him born near Mount Fuji. have you ever played yoshi island?

>> No.7374960

>>7374950
yoshi's island isn't a real location and that stork could have come from anywhere.

>> No.7374963

>>7374950
youre a fucking idiot

>> No.7374965

>>7374960
are you serious

>> No.7374969

>>7374965
only partially. seriously though why did you bring up mt. fuji?

>> No.7374975

>>7369331
Why give Mario's SMB3 sprite sclera when the actual 16-bit SNES and SMA4 versions didn't have them?

>> No.7374982

>>7374975
because he looks better that way.

>> No.7374990

>>7374969
the island is based on japan and its archipelagos

I recommend this educational program for you to understand the franchise

https://myanimelist.net/anime/13163/Furusato_Saisei__Nippon_no_Mukashibanashi

>> No.7375043

>>7374990
something being based on something doesn't mean it -is- that thing.
besides, mario speaks italian, has an italian accent, and eats italian food. what more do you want?

>> No.7375051

>>7375043
I don't understand why Nintendo and other Japanese companies do this. but mario is still not italian

>> No.7375054

>>7375051
mario is very obviously intended to be italian.

>> No.7375063

>>7375054
Nintendo didn’t even make the effort to use Italian symbols. In addition to the accent and that dated outfit that’s more like a reference to Japanese companies

>> No.7375069

>>7374990
>>7375051
>>7375063
holy shit, you are so fucking autistic. Mario is italian. 99% of the world views him as italian.

>> No.7375074

>>7375054
it was canon he was italian american from Brooklyn

>> No.7375078

>>7375069
It doesn't change anything

>> No.7376449

>>7374950
Mario is clearly inspired by classic cartoon characters like Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny, which were notorious for appearing in whatever setting they needed to for that particular cartoon short. Hell, the Super Mario Bros. Super Show ran wild with this and put them in Japan, Ancient Greece, etc.

>> No.7376467

>>7375063
What the fuck is an "Italian symbol"? The only change was going from a fungool Italian to a boopity boopy Italian.

>> No.7376476

>>7376467
You are seeing things. Nintendo makes it very clear that the character is Japanese