/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7364596]

N-Gage bros...

[Anonymous No.7364610]

BASED and MAYMAYPILLED!!!

[Anonymous No.7364612]

W- We won

[Anonymous No.7364623]

>>7364596
>Release date: 7 October 2003
not /vr/etro
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.7364629]

>>7364596
Daily reminder that this website still exists. http://www.sidetalking.com/original/

[Anonymous No.7365439]

>>7364623
its retro, tourist.

[Anonymous No.7365449]

Intentionally designed to look like Goatse

[Anonymous No.7365478]

>>7365449
This

[Anonymous No.7365549]

>>7364596
I remember the amount of manufactured hype surrounding the N-Gage, then when it came out Nokia faked the amount of sales. I only knew one person in my high school that had the N-Gage QD. I mean it was cooler than my siemens a56 prepaid cell but I had a ton of GBA games and the DS was coming out.

[Anonymous No.7365617]

>>7365449
Can't unsee

[Anonymous No.7365660]

>>7364596
>running tony hawk
So I guess is as powerful as a PS1.

[Anonymous No.7365752]

>>7365660
Lower resolution though. It runs Tomb Raider and a King's Field inspired Elder Scrolls game too.

[Anonymous No.7365762]

>>7365439
Well said, retro brother. Video games are retro in general.

[Anonymous No.7365791]

>>7364629
q cube guy is based

[Anonymous No.7365802]

>>7364629
I scrolled all the way down.

[Anonymous No.7365857]

>>7364629
What's wrong with sidetalking?

[Anonymous No.7366030]

>>7365549
I had the N-gage because my mom worked in that industry, nobody at school cared so I never showed it again.

[Anonymous No.7366184]

>>7364596
Is it possible to emulate this yet? Is someone working on it? Wanna play the sonic game, think it's unique just for this handheld.

[Anonymous No.7366187]

Was there ever an emulator for it? I always wanted to try some of the games, wasn't there a sonic game on it?

[Anonymous No.7366192]

>>7366184
lmao wtf i posted right after you
same, I never forgot that lost sonic game

[Anonymous No.7366193]

>>7366192
Almost thought I posted a duplicate, had to double take

[Anonymous No.7366201]

>>7365549
>Any company other than nintendo is bad

Why Nintendo fans are like that

[Anonymous No.7366207]

The only real complaint about the system is the screen size, which is an unfortunate problem to have. I really wanted to like this thing, but you can't just improve your game selection or mod a battery or something, the screen size will always be unbearable. The display's vertical height is the same height as a GBA's, and less than 60% of its width. The hardware could have performed like a mythical 10th gen super-console and still would have failed with a screen like that.

[Anonymous No.7366232]

>>7364623
Discussion of N Gage games are retro according to the rules since S60 Nokia phones were released in November 2001 and they were able to play N Gage games.

[Anonymous No.7366245]

>>7366184
>>7366187
Found this:
>Hi, I'm the author of the emulator. I can't keep steady progress so I only update mainly in the Discord. Right now I still focus on 9.4 edition of Symbian, while someone else works on 9.3 edition of it part time. I don't think you should expect things like N-Gage soon, but we are still planning on it one day.
- apr 19 2020

[Anonymous No.7366260]

>>7365449
>>7365617
FUCK

[Anonymous No.7366263]

>>7366184
Yeap, fully playable. Search for EKA2L1. A lot of other regular symbian games are also playable on it, and there's an android version

[Anonymous No.7366314]

ok so I found

https://github.com/EKA2L1/EKA2L1
the emulator
https://the-eye.eu/public/rom/Nokia%20N-Gage/
the roms
https://archive.org/details/symbian-os-roms
the rom of the os for the emulator (like the disc consoles and their bios)
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Mod:Shadowkey_Emulation_Guide
and a help guide written for the elder scroll game

[Anonymous No.7366315]

>>7366263
I read that just several were, do you know which ones? I couldn't find that.

[Anonymous No.7366396]

symbian game collection
https://archive.org/details/mobilesymbian17082019.7z

what games were even good

[Anonymous No.7366513]

what a pain in the ass but elder scrolls is working

[Anonymous No.7366549]

>>7366201
It was objectively a flop and no one cared about it.

[Anonymous No.7366562]

>>7366184
Sonic N (yes, nokia is based and red pilled) is just a watered down version of sonic advance.

[Anonymous No.7366571]

>>7366513
Plays like shit on the actual ngage too, its a pretty terrible game for the time. The elder scrolls travels dawnstar snd stormhold are better imho.

[Anonymous No.7366574]

>>7366562
can confirm, also the volume is really low, elder scrolls had options to increase it but I dont see one for sonic

[Anonymous No.7366779]

Crash team racing, monkey ball and king of fighers are better on ngage than on gba, I even still had fun with sonic n and there was even a port of quake. It was not very durable and it eventually stopped working.

[Anonymous No.7366794]

>>7364596
My dad unironically worked for Nokia and told me about it a few days before it was revealed to the public
>>7365449
Holy shit it even has the ring

[Anonymous No.7366801]

>>7364623
I know it may not be the /vr/ rules but my own personal rules for what is retro goes by the product death. PS2 in my opinion isn't retro because people were still playing it and still using it as their main console in 2010. Games were still being released in 2013. Retro should be an amount of time, maybe 15 years, since the product has been relevant.

[Anonymous No.7366835]

>>7366779
Theres a lot of good games on ngage plus symbian and java games, its pretty loaded. Sonic n is just one bad example. Theres a few crap games like call of duty but most of the 3d games ran fine to a bit choppy. tony hawk and tomb raider being the spectacles, of course. Then theres games like urban asphalt and ashen that are underrated 3d games on the n gage. Splinter cell, red faction, one, shadow key, ssx, tiger woods.

[Anonymous No.7367018]

N-Gage had potential but man, I never understand why companies releases a capable hardware but then make shitty choices like that screen aspect ratio or having to remove the battery in order to insert another game, it's like all they care is that the thing is powerful enough then spin the wheel to see what retarded idea they use so it doesn't look too similar to another handheld in the market

[Anonymous No.7367032]

>>7367018
>then make shitty choices like that screen aspect ratio
The reason is because its just their old phone with a taco shell slapped on it.

Pretty sure It was possible to download content onto a memory card to work around removing the battery.

[Anonymous No.7367054]

>>7367032
I think that's actually worse because they didn't make a full effort to get into the market, they saw handheld consoles were popular and thought hey let's try to milk the industry too surely it will work with barely any effort

Then they wonder why they failed and this doesn't only apply to the N-Gage but many of the Atari consoles or the consoles that came around the PS1/N64/Saturn era

[Anonymous No.7367101]

>>7364623
hes right you know
fuck ng*ge

[Anonymous No.7367181]

>>7367054
Atari's only half assed console was the 5200. 7800 was a genuinely great console that got released 3 years late due to management change, the lynx is probably the most groundbreaking handheld console ever made, the cancelled panther console was going to deliver the neo geo experience with some 3D capabilities added for a fraction of the price, and the jaguar was a console with great potential hindered by rushed development and launch. Atari made more innovations than nintendo and sega wish they could pull off.

[Anonymous No.7367189]

>>7367181
Lynx was ridiculously huge and sucked. Stop lying about it. You're worse than that Sega System guy.

[Anonymous No.7367206]

>>7367189
>Lynx was ridiculously huge and sucked.
Lynx also had better sprite transformation capabilities and 3D processing than the SNES. The only flaw is they attached a lightbulb behind the LCD screen instead of making it reflective, sucking up around 80% of its power. Honestly it wouldnt be bad if it was a small home console like the PC Engine, the form factor would be attractive.

[Anonymous No.7367214]

He would be hired by Nokia to design the NGage if he was still alive.

[Anonymous No.7367315]

>>7366314
Somebody play Sonic N then and tell us if it's worth playing

[Anonymous No.7367393]

>>7366314
Damn, maybe I should fire this thing up and finally play Pathway to Glory: Ikusa Islands. I only played the original, it was a really well made game and I enjoyed the multiplayer component as well.

[Anonymous No.7367401]

>>7367315
If you can play it on GBA theres no point to getting it on N Gage.

[Anonymous No.7367632]

I still remember trying one out at the gamestore and the buttons had the quality of a $5 chink knock-off

[Anonymous No.7367747]

>>7367054
>they saw handheld consoles were popular and thought hey let's try to milk the industry too surely it will work with barely any effort
No, thats not it at all. They were trying to bridge the gap. They wanted an all in one system. Phone, pda, games, mp3, Bluetooth, internet, etc... It even has a real one player for videos. The n gage was more powerful than any other handheld at the time, sure they kind fucked up with the screen, but what really screwed the n gage was being labeled "the taco phone". Even the QD model couldn't help by the time people thoughts it was a gimmick. I actually use an ngage as my cell phone right now, it works great.

[Anonymous No.7367750]

>>7367632
??? Youre just a lying retard. Youve probably never even seen one.

[Anonymous No.7367803]

>>7366513
>>7366574
can someone test crash nitro kart on this emulator?

[Anonymous No.7367821]

>>7365449
Genius desu

[Anonymous No.7367843]

>>7367632
I travelled to Berlin back in 2005. You could play those in their McDonald's

[Anonymous No.7367941]

>>7367189
Wasn't the Lynx originally designed to be a good deal smaller, but Atari management felt that since the price was going to be high the console should be huge so that people felt like they were getting value for money?

[Anonymous No.7367945]

>>7367747
Same, use ngage as my cell phone.

What screwed the ngage was it's not having a camera that was the hot new at the time and everyone wanted in their mobile phones.

[Anonymous No.7367965]

>>7367945
Yeah, cameras on phones were becoming a big deal, but it seemed like only sony ericcsons had them in 04-05. Everyone i knew made fun of the taco aspect. It was memed into obscurity.

[Anonymous No.7368016]

>>7367965
In my experience they were all fascinated/wanted to see/use it and everyone at least said in words that they would buy one as a mobile phone if only it had a camera.


Many more models I think had the camera I remember that all replaced their phones with one with the camera even if they had performances and programs etc. significantly lower / worse than the ngage

[Anonymous No.7368032]

>>7368016
I was 13 at the time and had no right owning a cell phone. I only got one because i told my mom it was a gameboy from finland (im finnish). Most of my friends didn't have phones, but they knew about the taco phone that could play tony hawk. Ill concede to your point of view, because it sounds like you had more real world experience with it than my teenage self.

[Anonymous No.7368069]

>>7367747
>chad pose
>why yes I do still use a phone with an actual keyboard, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.7368426]

>>7364596
Mines better.

[Anonymous No.7368464]

>>7368016
>>7368032
I don't know, phone cameras of that era were really shitty and compact cameras were still very common. Cameraphones had also a price premium that was not insignificant, at least when it came to a gaming device aimed for teenagers. IIRC N-Gage was seen as being too expensive as it was. T. I owned a QD

[Anonymous No.7368714]

>>7368464
I do agree that cameras on phones were shit, almost as bad as the gameboy camera, kek. But, i think it was the novelty of it being brand new tech. I recently got a qd, but i dont use it much. The button layout is different and i have a bunch of games on an mmc, so no need to swap out. The only thing I like more about the qd is the rubber guard on the edge.

[Anonymous No.7368806]

>>7367750
Another case solved, Mr. Holmes

[Anonymous No.7368834]

>>7364596
>still no pc emulator for it

[Anonymous No.7368930]

>>7368426
Damn, you got the limited edition version, nice.
I'm having that type for dinner tonight.

[Anonymous No.7369549]

>>7367803
it works but my god the camera in this game is super sensitive

[Anonymous No.7369590]

>>7367393
>strategy game with no grid movements
>historical context given per mission in the menu

wtf this game is hella based

[Anonymous No.7369645]

>>7369549
how well does it play? any noticeable FPS drops?

[Anonymous No.7369668]

>>7364596
nokia was so bad....

[Anonymous No.7369673]

>>7365439
YOU are the tourist faggot.
Now fuck off and die.

[Anonymous No.7369678]

>>7365449
epic Xd

[Anonymous No.7369720]

>>7369673
Kvetch

[Anonymous No.7369743]

>>7368834
I've played this to the end and I can honestly say you aren't missing out.

[Anonymous No.7369820]

>>7369645
perfectly fine, no game had any stutter so far

[Anonymous No.7369821]

>>7364596
>implying

only issue is I don't think these older blackberry can actually play java games?

[Anonymous No.7369823]

This game was inspired by the Saturn game Dragonforce.

[Anonymous No.7369986]

>>7369821
Nah, they could. I emulated pokemon and links awakening with one of those.

[Anonymous No.7370005]

I still have mine, what can I do with it? (apart of sidetalking....) Is there a market or something?

[Anonymous No.7370008]

>>7367941
Lynx II is as small as it gets.

[Anonymous No.7370109]

>>7366201
He's not being a nintenyearold, he's being realistic. At the time of n-gage release there wasn't any other concurrent handheld beyond nintendo, as sega/atari/snk were out and Sony wasn't yet in. There's no one else you'd compete with at that time.

Pretty impressed that the Tony Hawk game is in 3D though. I would have found that super cool at release time.

[Anonymous No.7370119]

>>7366574
>it's just lower res of the GBA with big borders on top/bottom

Am I seeing that right? If so jesus christ how horrifying

[Anonymous No.7370175]

>>7367747
How are you using a 2G-only phone in 2021? I know 2G is still up and running, but I didn't think anybody would let you activate a device on it. Have you had a 2G SIM activated all this time? Sorry if I come off as imitating but I have many questions.

[Anonymous No.7370613]

>>7366801
>He honestly thinks that cut-and-paste sports shovelware are anything but game-shaped objects
Get fucked.

[Anonymous No.7370780]

>>7365449
kek

[Anonymous No.7370852]

are these worth it to play flip phone java games more comfortably? and also the screen is ips?

[Anonymous No.7370870]

>>7370005
It works with a sim, as long as its unlocked. Theres tons of java, symbian and ngage games to play. Its also an mp3 player/radio... Though im not sure if you can connect bluetooth headphones to it, but i dont see why not.

[Anonymous No.7370887]

>>7370109
>Pretty impressed that the Tony Hawk game is in 3D though. I would have found that super cool at release time.
It still holds up, really well actually. So do a lot of games.

[Anonymous No.7370908]

>>7370887
What are some of your favorites?
This thread is strangely silent about games, the recommended wikia ITSELF is literally blank on N Gage and literally 2 games for symbian

I invoke the Symbian Council

[Anonymous No.7370915]

>>7364596
>bros
Implying there's more than one.

[Anonymous No.7370976]

>>7370852
>are these worth it to play flip phone java games more comfortably?
No. Ngages only play midp 1.0 java games and sometimes not even that. Most of the games youll probably want to play should be playable on an n95 as will ngage 1.0 and 2.0 games. Also many java games can be played on your phone these days. J2me loader on android.

[Anonymous No.7370987]

>>7370908
Worms, splinter cell, tony hawk, tomb raider, asphault urban gt, requiem of hell, ssx. For java games, i like the tom clancy stuff and whatever the gta clone was. Theres so many java games and honestly a lot of them are absolutely horrible to play, like oblivion for java is a fucking disaster.
Ive honestly never really fucked with the symbian side much.

[Anonymous No.7371174]

>>7370175
it's not that farfetched as you'd think uptill last year I was using pic/related myself and had to replace it with a blackberry torch after the screen burnt out on me

[Anonymous No.7371183]

>>7367401
Try bringing a gba to work in 2008 (I got mine in about 2007 for cheap), you would be fired instantly or at least given a warning, people across the room would point and say why is that person playing games. After my ngage stopped working I didn't play a mobile game until over 5 years later when android phones became cheap.

[Anonymous No.7371414]

>>7370175
>I didn't think
Well there's yer problem

[Anonymous No.7371416]

>>7365449

holy shit

[Anonymous No.7371420]

>>7369590
It always shocks me how ass the game looks in pictures but it's actually pretty in motion, like a miniature Jagged Alliance 2: https://youtu.be/sK2zIgJKMUg

[Anonymous No.7372069]

>>7371174
Bruh, n95 is the epitome of a nokia phone. Fuck blackberries, by another n95

[Anonymous No.7372158]

>>7372069
Fuck you, blackberry is superior typing device.

t. 13 years of blackberry use

[Anonymous No.7372162]

>>7371174
Impressed with the longevity. Wish phones were still built like that. iphones are sturdy (at least the 4 and 4S, I still see those bumping around) but they are crappy phones so it's sort of useless.

[Anonymous No.7372194]

>>7365449
i dont get it

[Anonymous No.7372764]

>>7372069
>implying

[Anonymous No.7373631]

>>7365449
LOL

[Anonymous No.7374415]

>>7372162

[Anonymous No.7374451]

>>7369820
just play the fucking gba version

[Anonymous No.7374467]

>>7374451
gba is for trannies

[Anonymous No.7375492]

>>7374467
Real men play both.

[Anonymous No.7375495]

>>7372158
Go type a penis up your butt

[Anonymous No.7375497]

>>7370175
Mint mobile works on nearly every band as long as your phone is unlocked and accepts sims.

[Anonymous No.7375542]

>>7364629
What a soulful website

[Anonymous No.7375921]

>>7366184
If you know what you are doing, you can hack in support into the S60v3 SDK by replacing the stub code with files from your phone (by default it doesn't support sis/sisx). Its a bitch to do, but its possible.

[Anonymous No.7376147]

>>7375492
First party GBA games are awful. Wonderswan is the better console. Wonderswan and NGage should've coexisted.

[Anonymous No.7376204]

>>7367747
Whadaya play on it usually, pardner?

[Anonymous No.7377102]

>>7376147
Hot take, champ.

[Anonymous No.7377104]

N-Goatse.

[Anonymous No.7377130]

>>7364596
Is it true that to swap games you need to remove the battery?

[Anonymous No.7377161]

>>7369820
Man that looks nauseating. The aspect ratio of that screen is just bad. I still want to try that Elder Scrolls game though. Watched an hour or two of it years ago.

[Anonymous No.7377182]

>>7370613

The last PS2 games that mattered came out in early 2010, which still feels like too short of a time.

[Anonymous No.7377670]

>>7377130
Don’t know about that but I think you have to open the panel where the battery is to get to the cartridge port.

[Anonymous No.7377675]

>>7372194
zoomer pls go

[Anonymous No.7378127]

>>7376147
Whatcha playin on WS lately champ

[Anonymous No.7380331]

>>7364596
What coulda been

[Anonymous No.7380518]

I remember asking for this shit for Christmas once
I'm really glad I didn't get it

[Anonymous No.7380609]

>>7372069
>Bruh, n900 is the epitome of a nokia phone
damn fucking right it was the GOAT smartphone every made pure fucking perfection sexy linux netbook the size of a cellphone shit was magic it would only have been beaten if the Sony Vaio p had a touchscreen and or unlocked 3G for voip in the west since a lot of smartphones now are around the size of a vaio netbook
oh wait you're talking about the POS that is the N95 and N series the only good about that trash was it ran symbian

huhhhhh ngage emlation is kinda a thing I really should try digging around for old java/symbian games and emulation its a rather under rated and rarely touched form of retro vidya

[Anonymous No.7382765]

>>7375497
but can they beat metro's 30$ price plans?

[Anonymous No.7385883]

>>7366562

[Anonymous No.7385889]

>>7366794
based

>>7366801
retarded, if a multiplat came out on gamecube xbox and ps2 would it be against the rules in your opinion to discuss the ps2 version? i sort of get the mindset of what youre talking about, but it just isnt going to end up with consistent logic.

so the n64 is retro and the gamecube is retro the ps2 isnt?

[Anonymous No.7386012]

>>7371174
this thing looks based as fuck anon...

why does old shit like like the future?

[Anonymous No.7386026]

>>7375492
>dk kong
trannoid detected

just kidding

[Anonymous No.7386247]

>>7371174
Imagine the smell...

[Anonymous No.7387541]

>>7385889
Yes. That is correct. Retro is a style and that style is the design of the product. If that product lives into 2010 it isn't considered retro imo. I don't care what the game looks like because anyone can create pixel art games, but when I think of PS2 I don't think retro because I hav seen a PS2 in someones bedroom in 2010+. The nostalgia factor isn't there.

[Anonymous No.7388227]

>>7387541
stop making up autistic rules to bend the concept of retro games into your small idea of what is right. you are just being the kid on the playground who annoys others by retroactively making exceptions to things.

if two consoles were made in the same year, they should be viewed through the same lens. a console succeeding or failing and having extra or less years of use doesn't change when it was built. the fact that the ps2 had so many years of use is an anomaly. and most of the later games were just ports anyway. are you going to say that the earliest ps2 games arent retro, because the console itself in your autistic view isnt retro because of (imaginary reasons)?

you can argue that in some countries, some consoles are used for an extra 5 or 10 years because they are third world, does that mean because some group somewhere used a console for an extra few years, that suddenly it isnt retro? maybe in that perspective we should change all of the definitions of retro because maybe in africa they are still using the playstation 1.

[Anonymous No.7388740]

>>7364629

Wow, nerds have such weird-looking heads.

[Anonymous No.7389314]

>>7365449
Hello you

[Anonymous No.7389374]

>People believe the goatse shit
Nokia designed a bunch of other phones with similar setups, plus it makes it easier to dial while side talking. The QD is better in every way. It's actually kind of a shame, the N-Gage had potentially and was as powerful as a GBA but was crippled by that first bad model. If the QD were the original it would have done better.

[Anonymous No.7389382]

>>7378127
you were probably being sarcastic but i'm also wondering. never bothered to play any wonderswan games

[Anonymous No.7389565]

>>7365449

[Kotonohas' Husbando No.7389665]

>>7371174
Looking back now, it seems so obvious that the whole phone should be a touch screen.

[Anonymous No.7389928]

>>7377130
Yes, you had to remove the battery to get access to the the cartridge slot. It was really cumbersome and at some point I just said fuck it and started installing pirated games on the internal memory