/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7353523]

Is it immoral to google the answers to a puzzle?

[Anonymous No.7353526]

I don't know if it's immoral but it is fagtarded

[Anonymous No.7353615]

>>7353526
Why? I accept I’m an impatient brainlet, but at least in the case of horror games, puzzles don’t offer much gameplay wise.

[Anonymous No.7353637]

Yes but if you've been stuck for a while you might as well look it up. I regret dropping games entirely because I'm stuck and I'm too prideful to use a guide.

[Anonymous No.7353802]

if you do it too often you're either dumb or not trying hard enough dummy

[Anonymous No.7353845]

None of the puzzles are particularly hard, only thing I had to look up was how to beat Cybil.

[Anonymous No.7353891]

i don't think any are harder than the piano and you can brute force that when you know it's the dead keys

[Anonymous No.7353923]

>>7353637
No. You must struggle and you must never finished a game. The gate keepers code demands it.

[Anonymous No.7353925]

>>7353523
Doesn't really matter. As a zoomer you won't be able to find anything anyway.

[Anonymous No.7354018]

>>7353523
Not really. Silent Hill 1's puzzles I found actually just clever and fun.
Silent Hill 3 will fucking lock you in a room, require you to BUY an actual Shakespeare book, and do fucking calculus using its text to play the game. Fuck Silent Hill 3.

[Anonymous No.7354141]

>>7354018
Silent Hill 3 was so stupid man. 1's and 2's were so good, and they were always logical and fair, so it took me a really long time to break with SH3 and look it up and it was some dumb ass shit a couple times. I don't even know why people jerk it off so much, is it waifushittery? That basic boring generic looking ass.

[Anonymous No.7354143]

>>7354018
That's THE worst puzzle not because it challenges you but because it's poorly worded/explained

[Anonymous No.7354148]

No, it just shows you're stupid

[Anonymous No.7354169]

>>7354143
It's not just the bad explanation, it requires you to physically fucking own a specific Shakespeare work in your house to use as reference.

[Anonymous No.7354186]

>>7353523
No, it's like using savestates, perfectly acceptable.

[Anonymous No.7354192]

>>7354018
Isn't that only on hard mode?

[Anonymous No.7354193]

>>7354192
>being a casual

[Anonymous No.7354194]

>>7353523
Why do you people care so much about how you play games? We is3e to have interesting threads here. Now we have people trying to impress anonymous users on the internet.

[Anonymous No.7354219]

>>7354193
>hard mode sucks and isn't fun
>but if you don't play hard mode you're a casual

[Anonymous No.7354231]

>>7354018

I actually solved the Shakespeare one (on hard) without a guide, but lost it on the one where you have to enter the code based on a poem.

[Anonymous No.7354241]

>>7354193
>WAAAH HARD MODE IT SO HARD
>so play normal then
>what am I a fucking casual?
Yes, now crack that Shakespeare book open and grow some braincells.

[Anonymous No.7354413]

The only two that threw me off were "Alert" and counting the arms.

[Anonymous No.7354458]

>>7353523
>immoral
I highly doubt God gives that much of a shit, bro.
>>7354018
>>7354141
That's only if you do hard riddle, retards.
>>7354192
Yes, as usual people are bitching about a game they haven't played

[Anonymous No.7354476]

>>7353523
Yes you HAVE to buy the strategy guide. Alternatively mail Konami $9.99 before referring to any online guide.

[Anonymous No.7354542]

>>7353523
No. The "puzzles" only existed to artificially inflate game time so players wouldn't finish the game in under two hours and realize they got ripped off when a superior game like say Final Fantasy 8 could've gave them dozens if not hundreds of hours of game time for the same price spread across four epic discs. Don't fall for the Silent Shills OP they're mostly horny girls anyway and not the hot kind the stinky hairy kind but also not in the hot stinky hairy way the bad stinky hairy way so no bush only big ugly Italian mustache and poop not sweat scents. Anyone who says otherwise is exactly what I'm describing and they will try some clever retort but remember these idiots bashed their head against a wall for hours trying to figure out some arbitrary bullshit and do not want to admit they got duped unlike most people who saw the crap for what it was. Good day sir.

[Anonymous No.7354571]

>>7354542
>Final Fantasy 8 could've gave them dozens if not hundreds of hours of game time for the same price spread across four epic discs
grinding for 30 hours is not epic gameplay you cuckold.

[Anonymous No.7354579]

>>7354219
yes

[Anonymous No.7354638]

>>7353523
Wandering around lost and confused is part of Silent Hill's atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.7354647]

a significant portion of the playerbase would use game magazine walkthroughs so w/e
just gived it a fair shake first or youre playing yourself

[Anonymous No.7354660]

>>7353523
If you've tried it yourself and been stuck for a while, why not?

[Anonymous No.7354751]

>>7354542
>Don't fall for the Silent Shills OP they're mostly horny girls anyway and not the hot kind the stinky hairy kind but also not in the hot stinky hairy way the bad stinky hairy way so no bush only big ugly Italian mustache and poop not sweat scents.

[Anonymous No.7354758]

>>7353523
There's only one puzzle in the entire game that is even remotely challenging and it's not really very confusing IMO

[Anonymous No.7354762]

>>7354542
Holy shit anon seek professional help and/or dilate.

[Anonymous No.7355558]

>>7353523
no but it defeats the purpose of playing the game, better off just watching a playthrough online.

[Anonymous No.7355949]

>>7353523
Looking up puzzles for survival horror games is only forgivable if it requires uncommon knowledge you weren't presented with in game.
>>7354542
T-thanks for the schizo bait anon.

[Anonymous No.7356021]

>>7354542
So this is the power of FF8cucks

[Anonymous No.7356278]

>>7354018
>>7354141
Speak of the devil, how should I play SH3? Didn't have a good experience with SH2 on PC way back then.

[Anonymous No.7356295]

>>7354458
>That's only if you do hard riddle, retards.
You mean like I did on SH2 and had no problem retard? That was a stupid puzzle no matter what. And it was more than one.

[Anonymous No.7356305]

>>7356295
>omg hard mode actually challenged me?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOO
And no, that's the only riddle that requires outside knowledge. The others are just *gasp* hard!
SH 2 is piss easy even on hard mode so it's good the game actually bothered to challenge players. Sorry you got salty for being outted as a brainlet

[Anonymous No.7357247]

>>7356278
What problems did you have with SH2? Did you use the enhanced edition patches? But SH3 actually has a pretty decent PC port, other than a widescreen patch if you want that there isn't anything really recommended as necessary.

[Anonymous No.7357383]

What did you guys do about SH3’s puzzles back in the day? I’m talking about the Shakespeare one. Did you just look up the answer? On a somewhat related note, do you guys like 4? People seem split on it, but I don’t know why.

[Anonymous No.7357467]

>>7356305
That face one was absolutely stupid too. That didn't take smarts, it took the dumbest logic. In fact, the dumber you are the more likely you are to solve it.

>hard puzzles means it should be unsolvable for 99.9% of people
That's just stupid. Every puzzle should be solvable with nothing but logic and things you learn in the game world. Fuck Silent Hill 3 and fuck you. Your waifu is generic.

[Anonymous No.7357479]

>>7357247
Long story short it would freeze the whole PC, randomly and with no red flags whatsoever. This was still back in Windows Vista with +10 year old hardware mind you. Think it was the Director's cut (you could play as Maria).

[Anonymous No.7357550]

>>7357383
I played on normal so no shakespeare puzzle.

[Anonymous No.7357627]

>>7357467
Sounds like you're a brainlet

[Anonymous No.7357632]

Action Level: Hard
Riddle Level: Easy

[Anonymous No.7357640]

>>7353523
Not if it's the Shakespeare puzzle in SH3

[Anonymous No.7357658]

>>7357627
meanwhile everyone is saying how dumb 3 is
you don't have to defend everything about a game because the protagonist makes your hormones react funny

[Anonymous No.7357731]

>>7357658
>meanwhile everyone
You mean your fellow brainlets

[Anonymous No.7357754]

>>7357731
silent hill 3 more like silent hill pee
silent hill tres more like silent hill mess
silent hill tre more like silent hill gay

[Anonymous No.7357763]

>>7357754
>this is what 3 haters are reduced to
lmao

[Anonymous No.7357764]

>>7357763
shook

[Anonymous No.7357774]

>>7353523
If you got past the piano puzzle without cheating you already faced the hardest puzzle in the entire game. It's all downhill from there.

[Anonymous No.7357794]

>>7357632
If there's any problem with SH 2 and 3's riddle difficulty levels it's that the difficulty curve of the difficulty settings are all out of wack. Hard is almost total engrish inference interpretation and tenuous logic and Normal is basically Resident Evil tier and barely function as speed bumps. Easy I don't know because Normal is already so easy compared to Hard. Very poorly balanced too be honest and it would have been better if they just picked one set of puzzles and stuck with those like in SH1 where they could have better playtested whether the riddles make sense in fucking English.

[Anonymous No.7357870]

>>7357774
this. still have laying around the piece of paper where i wrote the riddle and solved it

[Anonymous No.7359167]

I have the greatest hits version of this game and they advertise on the actual disc calling the hint line.

Which is weird because as far as games from that era go this is definitely one of the more straightforward. I'd definitely need that hint line for some of the random ass shit JRPGs expected of you though.

[Anonymous No.7359171]

>>7357794
Easy outright drops some puzzles entirely. The doors will just be open and puzzle items just there.

(its my preferred way to play)

[Anonymous No.7359253]

>>7354141
SH3 has the best Otherworld designs in the entire franchise.

[Anonymous No.7359585]

>>7353523
I just had to look up the solution to REmake's armor room puzzle, I seriously tried to solve it for like half an hour but I couldn't. Looked up the solution, and I still don't understand the logic behind it, goddamn I'm such a brainlet

[Anonymous No.7359592]

>>7353523
If the puzzle relies on bullshit logic that flies in the face of common sense, no.

>>7353845
Isn't there a bug where you can use the item on a monster in that area and it skips the Cybil fight?

[Anonymous No.7359614]

>>7353523
In Silent Hill? Fuck no. These games are full of stupid bullshit designed to make you buy the strategy guide. And don't listen to people like >>7354018 and >>7354141 who will tell you it's just SH3 and the first two games are fine. Defend pic related. You can't. It's indefensible.

[Anonymous No.7359638]

>itch.io game called Terminus releases a demo
>basically a SH1 knockoff
>play Hard riddle
>the first fucking puzzle requires you to know of a specific cryptography cipher that was invented in the 15th century
>there is literally no hints whatsoever as to how the cipher is constructed in game
>message the dev that having a puzzle that is reliant on specific outside knowledge is retarded
>YEAH WELL THIS IS THE GAME THAT I WANT TO MAKE

[Anonymous No.7359647]

>>7359614
I didnt even have to think to solve that.
My god some people are retard.

[Anonymous No.7359654]

>>7359647
Liar. Go ahead and explain how your genius brain picked up a pack of juice boxes and immediately knew to go throw them down the garbage chute.

[Anonymous No.7359661]

>>7359614
>>7359614

I think some of this requires your mind to be in a specific place. I distinctly remember playing SH2 for the first time after going grocery shopping and hauling in a bunch of heavy 12 can cases of seltzer and soda, so when I got to the canned juice I immediately knew I could use something heavy to dislodge the garbage chute. If you look at that and your mind doesn't immediately jump to "these things are fucking heavy" I could see it being unintuitive.

OP, what puzzle is it? SH1 doesn't really have any outlandish puzzles from what I remember.

[Anonymous No.7359693]

>>7359638
>cant figure out a puzzle
>call dev retarded
>waaa stop bullying me

your a fag

[Anonymous No.7359715]

>>7359638
> itch.io
Is there actually any good shit on here that isn't on Steam, or it just a bunch of crappy demos that the devs know would never sell a single copy on Steam?

[Anonymous No.7359727]

>>7359654
When you examine them it says its heavy.

[Anonymous No.7359747]

>>7359727
No it fucking doesn't, at least not in the original. You must have been playing the PC version with the fan patch. Which added extra hints to the caption precisely because of how retarded the puzzle is. Thanks for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.7359748]

>>7354542
>not the hot kind the stinky hairy kind but also not in the hit stinky hairy way the bad stinky hairy way

[Anonymous No.7359763]

>>7359715
There's some good shit hidden among the doo doo. Look up Sunken Heads. Really good surreal adventure game.

[Anonymous No.7359801]

>>7359167
I tried calling the Konami hotline a few months ago. Then I learned 900 numbers don’t even exist anymore.

[Anonymous No.7359893]

>>7359747
No i played on ps2.

[Anonymous No.7360072]

>>7359614
That one held me up because I thought it was a consumable and it wasn't letting me drink it because I was at full health. But I didn't have any issues with anything in SH1, the piano puzzle and valve turning puzzle took a little longer but not in a way where I'm not even sure what to be doing.

The rotating face thing in SH2 also irritated me a little bit, along with the noose part where you have to read so much only to end up with what felt like an unsatisfying solution.