/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7345182]

Does this game suck or do I suck?

[Anonymous No.7345184]

>>7345182
The latter

[Anonymous No.7345329]

You, hard.

[Anonymous No.7345331]

This meme sucks

[Sage No.7345624]

It's a perfectly fine action adventure. You can play the story through in a single sitting, there's a few things to unlock or find and maybe a boss or two that make it hold your interest.
It's not a survival horror game and it's not a good Resident evil game.

[Anonymous No.7345632]

>>7345182
If you both suck, that's called a 69 lol

[Anonymous No.7345637]

>>7345624
>It's not a survival horror game and it's not a good Resident evil game
This.
I was a big RE fan and played RE1/2/3 on the PSX and CV on the DC.
I got the GC just to play it, and was disappointed to find out it was even more of an action game than RE3.

[Anonymous No.7345665]

It's garbage

[Anonymous No.7345670]

>>7345624
>>7345637
It was a horror game in the same way that F.E.A.R. was a horror game and in the same way the movie Aliens was a horror movie.

It could be scary but it was about action first and foremost. It had a silly but fun b-list action movie plot too.

This is actually my favorite resident evil game, though I have yet to play the last to RE games to come out

[Anonymous No.7345674]

The aiming is shit on purpose but you'll get used to it, also you should be abusing your knife and performing melee attacks whenever possible, they do a lot of damage and go a long way towards saving ammo.

Having such a severe sway to your aiming is actually a really fun way of making the aiming more tense and challenging, gitting gud at compensating for the sway is really satisfying and makes long distant shots with your pistol feel really rewarding once you can do it consistently.

[Anonymous No.7345676]

>>7345182
>>7345674
The stock for the tmp helps A LOT

[Anonymous No.7345745]

>>7345676
Red9 gets a stock too. There's a reason why plebs are obsessed with that gun.

[Anonymous No.7345747]

>>7345182
The game is really good. It's just oldfags don't like change and sophisticated gamers sometimes like a new twist.
4 is pretty fkn awesome. 5 has 10/10 would marry Sheva, rest of game is mediocre. 6 is balls.

[Anonymous No.7345818]

>>7345182
Both

[Anonymous No.7345851]

>>7345670
I'm not disagreeing with what you said, it's definitely got lots of horror elements. I'm specifically saying that it is not survival horror, in the sense of genre autism, like the previous games in the series.

[Anonymous No.7345862]

>>7345624
>>7345637
cope, the series designer im re1 said in interviews he always wanted it be more action orientated. 4 may have gone slightly too far in a few ways, but it is nowhere near as bad as any of the other games that followed it. 4 is a good compromise between the atmospher of resident evil and the original vision of the creator.

[Anonymous No.7345881]

>>7345862
adding to this. if you want to say that resident evil 5 isnt a resient evil game thats fine. it has a lot of the controls from resident evil 4 but completely loses the sense of atmosphere or isolation inherent to a re title.even small things like the item box in 4 that they changed from 5 really lost a lot of the charm of the game.

i dropped it half way through but have finished 4 10 times. its a good game. i played an hour of 6 and turned it off, couldnt stand it. and have yet to try 7. you can criticize the newer ones if you like but resident evil 4 is a very good middle ground that combines a lot of the best features from each end of the re spectum.

[Anonymous No.7345887]

You'll unsuck if you play it more. Two tips:

Every action animation except attacking and opening doors makes you fully invincible for the duration so use them to avoid danger and make yourself untouchable even if surrounded
>kicking people, suplexing cultists? invincible
>climbing ladders, jumping down, climbing through windows? invincible
>literally put in a stun animation from your own explosion being somewhat close? invincible

Enemies start their long ass animations to swing at you well ahead of time to intercept your path while you're running... And they can't stop. If you so much as tap forward and the run button, unless they're in that mode where they're going to awkwardly wait a long time in your face to attack, you can make them start an attack, which won't hit you if you just back away, and then you can run straight by them while they're in the attack's recovery, pushing them if necessary. You barely have to fight these idiots, unless you want to, they're that inept.

[Anonymous No.7345918]

>>7345887
from
>>7345881


something that has puzzled me for a long time is how capcom handles animations and vulnerability. they do some wonky weird shit. what comes to mind is lost planet for xb360. you could get stunlocked in the multiplayer when another player uses the mech robot shotgun on you. each time you get blasted you fly back and knocked on your ass, and your character takes a few seconds to get up stubling around. youre invincible during that animation, but players would just wait for you to get up and blast you again, before you had a chance to roll or move. chaining this until you died. in the end it was more annoying that you were invincible, because instead of a quick death you just get a slow annoying one where another player can fuck with you because of your I frames.

[Anonymous No.7346182]

>>7345182

[Anonymous No.7346301]

>>7345182
It definitely sucks.

[Anonymous No.7346310]

[Anonymous No.7346403]

>>7346310
am i supposed to know what zoomer game this is? It looks like fortnight or something.

[Anonymous No.7346406]

>>7346403
No its RE4

[Anonymous No.7346445]

>>7345632
>ywn 69 Ashley or Leon
it hurts to live

[Anonymous No.7346631]

>>7346445
no way fag

[Anonymous No.7346634]

>>7345674
What are you on about? Aiming is not challenging I have finished this game literally aiming with my feet.

[Anonymous No.7346639]

>>7346634
On professional

[Anonymous No.7346640]

>>7346634
>I have finished this game literally aiming with my feet.
t. paraplegic show-off

[Anonymous No.7346641]

>>7345182
You I suppose.

[Anonymous No.7346642]

>>7345851
'Survival horror' was never a real genre in the first place.

[Anonymous No.7346925]

>>7346634
t. red9 user that only plays the wii version

[Anonymous No.7346942]

>>7345747
6 is better than 5 and has better waifu in debora and sherry adult.

[Anonymous No.7347119]

>>7345182
you

[Anonymous No.7347130]

>>7345887
I feel like I can aim just fine. I just don’t understand what to do when a hoard of enemies are coming at me. 1-3 were way easier to me. I understood those. 4, though, I don’t get why I’m such a shitter.

[Anonymous No.7347138]

>>7345182
Yes it does suck. RE4 completely ruined the Resident Evil franchise to me.

[Anonymous No.7347347]

>>7347130
Did you find the shotgun in the village? It's in the two story house. Shotguns knock almost everything on their ass in this game.

Failing that, you can shoot someone in the face to stagger them and then just run in and the kick will hit everyone, or you can use your grenades to great effect.

[Anonymous No.7347416]

I replayed RE4 recently and accidentally did Assignment Ada instead of Seperate Ways after beating the game, I completely forgot that was a thing.

What a waste of time it was though god damn is it easy, I couldn't waste TMP ammo faster than enemies were dropping it. I guess Krauser might have been tough if I were playing a version where Ada doesn't get her knife though.

[Anonymous No.7347836]

>>7345182
>more qte than 5, equalizing 6 in number of frustrating parts
>But this game is still considered one of the best titles in the franchise by fans

Resident evil fans have no taste

[Anonymous No.7348293]

OP here. I was wrong. I sucked. I replayed it and sucked way less. This is great fun. I’ve been missing out for years.

[Anonymous No.7348303]

>>7345862
>series designer
There were two of them: Shinji Mikami and Tokuro Fujiwara
And they disagreed on the direction of the series, one pushed for more action, the other for more survival horror.

[Anonymous No.7348324]

>>7345182

It's a quality game, baggage aside. Resident Evil 5 is the most enjoyable RE, but only if you have someone to play with.

[Anonymous No.7348397]

It has never clicked for me and always lose interest right after you meet the merchant for the first time.

[Anonymous No.7348421]

>>7347130
>I just don’t understand what to do when a hoard of enemies are coming at me.
Kneecap them, then use special melee attack. You can also headshot them for the same effect, but that can be a harder target depending on your aim. Will knock everyone back. Run through hole. You'll use the same technique in Mercenaries mode in 4 and 5. It's essential in 5's No Mercy Mercenaries mode due to the sheer number of enemies they throw at you. Being able to keep 2-3 chainsaw/hammer/giantbug guys in stunlock at the same time is the only way to live.

[Anonymous No.7348442]

>>7345747
>>7346942
6 had better controls and a better mercenaries mode because of it but it's main problem was that it tried to please everyone and failed horribly at it.

i wish capcom did another standalone mercenaries game with all the characters & levels from 4, 5 & 6. the 3DS game was the shit even if it was a tech demo for revelations.

[Anonymous No.7348498]

>>7348442
>people want a Mercenaries RE game
>Capcom keeps making shitty multiplayer spin-offs
Someone really needs to pitch a four player Mercenaries stand-alone game with No Mercy modes. Capcom would finally get the multiplayer RE game they want, and we would finally get the survival combat RE we want.

[Anonymous No.7348738]

>>7348397
Really? Right after the merchant is where the game clicked for me.
>>7348421
The chainsaw man is what pisses me off. I can cope with everything else but him. He took two rifle shots to the head and a grenade. Didn’t die. What’s his deal? He feels like bullshit.

[Anonymous No.7348761]

>>7347130
Doors can be used as chokepoints, and your knife works through them if you make a hole.

[Anonymous No.7348775]

>>7348293
Redemption arc

[Anonymous No.7348825]

>>7348775
I’m telling you, I was wrong about this game for years. I’ve been missing out hard. I simply hated it because I was bad at it. Never made it past the first 10 minutes. I understand it way more now. Right after the first meeting with the merchant and you fight on those narrow bridges, I finally understood. There’s nothing else like that experience to me.

Does Ashley ruin the game? I’m scared.

[Anonymous No.7348834]

>>7348825
>Does Ashley ruin the game
Nah. I mean I won't say she's perfect but most areas with actual tough, well tough for the game, enemies have spots where you can have her 'hide' and then you can basically ignore her.

[Anonymous No.7348851]

>>7348825
The castle, thats the meat and 2 veg of re4. So much fucking atmosphere and the segway to the island and underground research lab with those fucking lurking horrors. Best scary monster in a game when you first encounter them, still gives me a bit of goosebumps when i get there. And no, ashley isnt even shoe horned in that much, it adds clostrophobic suspense to the game.

[Anonymous No.7348863]

>>7348834
That’s good to hear. I’m about to be on chapter 2. What guns are worth upgrading/buying? I bought the rifle because it seemed like a safe bet. Is upgrading the reload/fire power worth it? So far, I just use the pistol, kick and knife, but I can tell that probably won’t work too long.

[Anonymous No.7348891]

>>7347416
>got a SECOND ada side mission instead of getting one where you play louise.
>The remake is going to butcher or outright remove him for being a problematic womanizer.

[Anonymous No.7348909]

>>7345182
It's probably the greatest game ever created.

[Anonymous No.7348953]

>>7348825
He's a mini-boss enemy. Later on there's a guy with large claws who is just as dangerous. In Mercenaries mode on one map there's a guy with two chainsaws who's even tougher. The mini-boss enemies are WHY you practice the melee move. You try to fight them head on, you get killed instantly. You hit and run or stun and melee repeatedly until they die. They take far more damage to stun than normal enemies, just FYI.

>>7348825
She's a pain to deal with, but you can put her out of the way in most cases, and she doesn't follow you for the entire game. Just don't get too far away without her or the game might spawn an enemy near her and have her out the door before you can react for an instant game over. If she really kills your enjoyment of the game too much, get a 100% savegame and start a new game using the 2nd costume option. She'll be in a suit of armor that not only makes her invincible(no more using herbs on her), but also prevents enemies from picking her up and carrying her off.
If you enjoy the game, try RE5 as well. Pretty much the same thing gameplay-wise, but the inventory is simplified, you access the trader between levels instead of during, and you have a partner who also shoots at the zombies instead of just screaming for help and getting hit. RE5 Mercs also has more characters, levels, and a No Mercy mode that increases the number of enemies spawned at once and in total. RE5 Mercs can also be beaten, as it sends a set number of enemies at you instead of an endless swarm.

[Anonymous No.7349001]

>>7348863
Don't buy any pistol until you can get the Red9, and only do ammo upgrades on the starter pistol if you are empty and NEED more ammo. Sell the Punisher you get for free, it can pierce and hit multiple enemies, but it doesn't get the bonus damage for headshots the other pistols get. Red9 is the most powerful, and worth upgrading fully, including the stock.
Don't upgrade the starting shotgun unless ammo like the starter pistol. Get the Riot Gun when you can and use that instead. Upgrade it.
Rifle is good, you'll need it later. Never bothered upgrading it unless I was desperate for rifle ammo, but you do you.
TMP is good. Get it, there's ammo for it everywhere. Get the stock too. Upgrade away.
You get a Broken Butterfly for free, and it's the only magnum you'll need. Upgrade away.

[Anonymous No.7349179]

I think a first-timer should always play with a shotgun and always play with a rifle. A pistol too just because handgun ammo never stops dropping as if you had one, even if you decide not to. Setups without one or both are doable and I love meme setup playthroughs, but the game clearly expects you to have these as an assumption.

TMP is both a boss-killer and a pistol replacement in this game - its ammo drops infrequently but in large amounts. I don't recommend it to new players AS a pistol substitute because they don't know to peck a ganado one time and kick him, followed by knifing, instead of wasting loads of it; generally there still isn't enough to solely use it as your pistol if you intend to kill bosses with it though.

You can use a TMP as your pistol and a Punisher as "shotgun" for shotgun moments, but that's a shitshow I don't recommend (that was my Pro playthrough in the newer PC remaster and it wasn't pleasant). Magnums are also boss-killers. Rockets are weirdly inexpensive free passes on bosses, but that's a speed runner thing mostly and you're just depriving yourself.

Mine Launcher is my favorite shit weapon but its homing where it'll veer off in midair to an enemy seems like it has way more zany applications in outdoor areas that take place before that upgrade is available. Great NG+ meme.

[Anonymous No.7349184]

>>7349001
Riot Gun is a total and complete waste of money, it's the least upgrade of all upgrade weapons. Keep brown shotty until Striker.

[Anonymous No.7349272]

It would go into the revolutionary and very fun, but also severely overrated category. The gameplay and aesthetics are some of the best in that generation, but the story is so fucking stupid it's almost like horrible sci-fi channel movie level of writing. Basically, it's really fucking good but people jerk off over it so hard that it gets annoying and makes you not even want to talk to it. Kind of like every single game in the Fallout franchise.

[Anonymous No.7349275]

>>7349272
talk about it*

[Anonymous No.7349314]

>>7349272
The thing that you think is overrated about it isn't what people rate it so highly for, though. Its story is a complete ridiculous joke and everyone who loves the game is constantly mocking it.

[Anonymous No.7349396]

>>7345624
How is this game beatable in one sitting? It's 10+ hours long, unless you happen to be a speedrunner. Have you even played the game?

[Anonymous No.7349429]

>>7349184
Wrong, Riot gun is the patrician's shotgun. Straight up better than the regular shotgun even at range with the exclusive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aMh5uwPCy8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJR-qg6eso

[Anonymous No.7349483]

>>7348891
I like Seperate Ways but I definitely would have enjoyed a Luis campaign too.

In a perfect world Seperate Ways was just the secret mission you unlock in all versions and then they added Luis Simulator to all the ports. No stupid Assignment Ada.

[Anonymous No.7349493]

Does anyone else skip on buying scopes for either of the rifles? There are hardly any points in the game where you can even really do super long range sniping and it doesn't make general sniping that much easier. I just don't find it worth the 3 inventory slots.

The thermal scope is worth it of course though.

[Anonymous No.7349771]

>>7345182
RE4 sucks ass,

/thread

[Anonymous No.7350108]

>>7345182
It was one of the earliest examples of over-the-shoulder FPS, it takes a while to get used to it.

[Anonymous No.7350549]

>>7349396
Yeah, I literally sat down and replayed through the story a few weeks ago. I did it in one drunken Saturday, not sure actual play time.

[Anonymous No.7350653]

>>7345182
This game made me hate the newer Resident Evil games. Which is why I sold my copy of RE4 a long time ago and bought a better game(Metal Gear Solid 3).

[Anonymous No.7350717]

>>7346925
>t. red9 user that only plays the wii version

the wii version killed the game for me, I can't go back to the old controls but it's too powerful, really it just needed one more new higher difficulty setting

>shoot guy in toe
>spin kick him (and everybody standing by him)
>knife him while he gets up

so basically it takes like one bullet at most to kill anybody for good chunks of the game

[Anonymous No.7350720]

>>7350717
>shoot guy in toe
>spin kick him (and everybody standing by him)
>knife him while he gets up
This is why RE4 is not a real RE game

[Anonymous No.7350730]

>>7350653
>a better game
>(Metal Gear Solid 3).

[Anonymous No.7350734]

>>7350653
Based

[Anonymous No.7350815]

>>7350653

[Anonymous No.7350846]

>>7350815
Oh man, it must've been on sale, and it's Subsistence, too. Whoever picked that up got a great bargain.

[Anonymous No.7350974]

>>7345182
>Get to the first village next to church
>I'm killing a never ending amount of villagers and the chainsaw guy for about 10-15minutes.

>Watch a speedrun
>He kills like 6 villagers and the chainsaw guy with a grenade and the fight is over

Why did I have to kill 50 more enemies than him to end the fight? Kinda dumb that there is some invisible trigger that must end the fight.

[Anonymous No.7350989]

>>7345182
Neither, go have sex

[Anonymous No.7351037]

>>7349272
I love weird cheesy sci fi.
I highly recommend the serie lexx.but anyway i stopped re4 at chapter 3 but i think i'll continue the gameplay is very enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.7351190]

>>7345624

He's not talking about Silent Hill, Sage

[Anonymous No.7351901]

>>7350974
You have to kill a certain amount of enemies but I'm pretty sure chainsaw guys count for more enemies than the regular villagers, the sooner you kill a chainsaw guy the sooner it ends.

If you're a big dick pro the best way to beat that village encounter is to kill both chainsaw guys because they drop 15k combined but it's really hard to actually down the second one before it ends.

[Anonymous No.7352018]

>>7349493
I just don't even understand what the scopes do and have been playing near every version since the gamecube.

On the mine thrower, attaching the scope changes the gun from laser sight to having you look down a scope - that one is understandable. On the rifle and semi-auto rifle, you look down a scope already... without a scope. What does the scope addon actually do? Is it increased zoom levels? There isn't even an area in the entire game where the default rifle zooms don't zoom far enough.

[Anonymous No.7352050]

>>7350974
All villagers except chainsaw boys die automatically to grenades if they're anywhere near it, so what they do is gather every spawned enemy at once and grenade them together. Another thing speedruns do is run immediately into the cutscene building to spawn the full enemy count that the area can support.

There is also a delay for the scene end based on how long the last enemy's death animation is for you, which can cause you to kill more dudes than you need to (which won't even spawn you their drops unfortunately).

[Anonymous No.7352067]

>>7350974
>>7352050
Expanding on this, the full blast radius of a grenade, TO ENEMIES, extends all the way out to the max range at which Leon will just flinch at the explosion. It catches way more ganados in the speedrun than you think it does.

[Anonymous No.7352437]

>>7349493
They really should have added more situations where you could snipe enemies far away, but I guess there would be performance problems with such areas. The scopes are pretty worthless and even the infared ones are if you go with the bolt-action - It only takes 4 hits from it to kill a regenerator.

[Anonymous No.7352728]

>>7350815
My girlfriend loves Metal Gear Solid 3 and she's hot.

[Anonymous No.7352780]

>>7352728
Prove it

[Anonymous No.7352781]

>>7347416
>I guess Krauser might have been tough if I were playing a version where Ada doesn't get her knife though.
Or if you're using KB+M and have to keep awkwardly mashing the X and C keys to evade his attacks.

[Anonymous No.7352790]

>>7348825
Ashley is only with you for like a quarter of the game, and on the rare occasions when there's no garbage cans to throw her into she stays crouched directly behind you while you fight, basically becoming an extension of Leon's hitbox.

So nah it's pretty painless.

[Anonymous No.7352839]

>>7350815
>>7352728
Girls fucking love MGS, one of my worse friends can literally never let anyone call MGS2 bad without an hour long rant.

[Anonymous No.7352846]

>>7348891
He made one comment, it's probably fine

[Anonymous No.7352890]

>>7352839
I haven't played MGS2 since the release of MGS3.