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Who made the best games and why?

>> No.7341307

If it aint jap its crap

>> No.7341315

>>7341307
wise words

fr tho, not sure what other answers to expect from this thread

>> No.7341376

Japs>USA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Europe

>> No.7341379

Depends on the genre.

Japanese - Sports, Platformers, JRPG
USA - FPS, Realistic Sports
Europe - Western RPGs

>> No.7341381
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7341381

Japs make good consistent quality
Non Japs occasionally come out with GOAT titles

>> No.7341427

>>7341379
Also, Euros have some very good(but pretty janky) strategy games, of all sorts. RTS, TBS, RTT, TBT, 4X, etc.

>> No.7341559

if it aint jap it aint crap

>> No.7341562

Japanese for most things

US for FPS

Europe for nothing

>> No.7341578

Probably give the edge to Japan but USA has legendary games in pretty much every genre across console and PC.

>> No.7341579

>>7341379
>USA - Realistic Sports
Konami did the best (retro) soccer games, Sega had Virtua Tennis, etc.

>> No.7341694

>>7341302
Japs followed by USA
as for Europe nothing worth playing comes from that shithole kek

>> No.7341719

>>7341302
Japan, not even close. There are a million legendary japanese videogames out there.

>> No.7341729

>>7341302
Australia made some good games thanks to Melbourne house but it’s barely a blip in the grand scheme

>> No.7341756

>>7341307
/Thread

>> No.7341775

Europe for willyvanias

>> No.7341791
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7341791

European game industry is literally the best in the world though. People often forget that Rockstar is a British company. It's still unrivaled to this day in creating open world third person shooters. The PS1 is nothing without Psygnonis' contribution to the software design, it would end up as a blunder like the rest of 5th gen consoles. Also Bullfrog, Codemasters, Core Design, Frontier, are all British. And we haven't covered German, French, and the rest of European studios here.

USA is a close second. They have created significant innovations in regards of video game design as well as tons of legendary titles.

Japan is far behind in the third place. They only make games for the underdeveloped minds and receive praise for it. Their video game industry has been largely stagnant as well, in alignment with their economic stagnation.

>> No.7341839

>>7341791
dont bother, fatmericans can only think of speccy and the like, and ignore anything we made from when 3D became standard

>> No.7341851

>>7341376
tpbp & /thread

>> No.7342128

>>7341839
Well yeah, because technically impressive shit is...still shit. Agree though with Euro being at the top post 3D

On the other hand if you don't wanna hear us bitch about the speccy maybe don't treat it or similar platforms like they were the second coming of Christ.

>> No.7342161

>>7341379
Japs - puzzle, beat em ups
USA - point & click adventures
Europe - racing

>> No.7342173

>>7341791
>It's still unrivaled to this day in creating open world third person shooters.
Cancerf

>> No.7342180

Europeans need to be banned from attempting to make video games, enough is enough, It's still a problem to this day

>> No.7342217

>>7341791
This post reeks of australia-kun.

>>7341839
This one too

>> No.7342220
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7342220

What's with the butthurt americlaps in this thread?

>> No.7342225

>>7342220
>literally no one mad in the thread
>genuine ontopic game discussion 30 posts in
and then
>Eurocuck shows up steaming with anger and gets out his notebook of hilarious american memes

>> No.7342227

>>7341302
NA and Jap both have amazing games to their name. Off the top of my head idk anything that interesting made in Europe

>> No.7342237

>>7341302
Japanese > massive power gap > everyone else unless it's an FPS or autism sim. If it has action components in 3rd person/2D there's just no goddamn question.

>> No.7342247
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>>7342225
>"as for Europe nothing worth playing comes from that shithole kek
>"Europeans need to be banned from attempting to make video games, enough is enough, It's still a problem to this day"
>genuine ontopic game discussion 30 posts in

>> No.7342248
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7342248

>itt: butt blasted sharters

>> No.7342256

>>7341791
Oi roit the gaem 'as a buncha features and simulation innit so 'at makes it fun, pip pip

That doesn't mean shit if the basic acts of moving around and combat with foes feels rock'em'sock'em tier and stilted like every one of your bongshit games.

>> No.7342264

>>7342247
None of those statements seem mad or off-topic

>> No.7342282
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shart

>> No.7342283

>>7341302
I mostly remember Europe for making "wow"ing games whether it be graphics or music, but usually they arent that good in other departments

https://youtu.be/PAPlKz_VUm0?t=311

>> No.7342284

>>7342217
What the hell is australia-kun? Can you manchildren stop with your memespeak for a second and have a rational discussion?

>> No.7342306

>>7342284
>What the hell is australia-kun?
Lurk more

>> No.7342308

>>7341302
GTA open world clones and FPS games are the reason gaming sucks balls today, thank you Europe, thank you America, you done did it, you ruined gaming!

>> No.7342316

>>7341302
Clearly it's Europe

>> No.7342337

>>7342128
Only shitposters and brits (or people with poor taste) do that MSX, C64 and Amiga (to some degree) are the only ones worth anything

>> No.7342412

Most of the actual technology vidya needs to work in the first place came from the US. After all, we invented the IC in the first place and pretty much every important microprocessor family other than ARM is of American origin.

>> No.7342435

>>7342412
the videogame world would be so much better if americans kept to doing pc parts and never went into game development

>> No.7342606

>>7342284
It's most likely you

>> No.7342610

>>7342248
Americans buried shitty games, Britbongs kept buying the shit, so japan didn't waste it's time on you

>> No.7342795

>>7341302
Japanese are better at storytelling and arcade games, Americans are better at sandbox games, and Euros are better at low quality clones of Japanese games played on computers with rubber keys and a gay pride rainbow on the case.

>> No.7342832

>>7341379
>Japanese - Sports, Platformers, JRPG
Spyro and Crash.

>> No.7342936

>>7342832
Japan had better 2D platformers, America had better 3D platformers.

>> No.7342942

>>7341307
US/EU can still make some pretty great games, but it seems like they can only do that when they focus on PC. Once the focus shifted to consoles then they started churning out more and more garbage.

>> No.7343457
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7343457

This should be a Jap vs US vs UK thread.

At least 95% of the great companies/games out of Europe are from the UK. >>7341791 already mentioned many of these companies. Europe literally wouldn't even be in the running without the UK, or more specifically Britain.

>> No.7343463

>>7343457
Nothing but shit came out in the EU. You're pretty much trying to make great Britbong take all the heat

>> No.7343492

>>7341307
This %100.
Japan simply dominated the 80s-early 2000s. Best games ever made, period.

>> No.7343504

>>7343463
Embarrassing.

Psygnonis and Rare alone, both British chad companies, are better than anything Yankeestan had.

>> No.7343516

>>7343504
Cry more

>> No.7343540

>>7343516
kek. You know it's true so that's all you can say.

>> No.7343570

>>7342227
>idk anything that interesting made in Europe
Tetris? Minecraft? GTA? Like, some of the best-selling franchises ever?

>> No.7343668

>>7343570
Boring
Legos
Boring.

>> No.7343671

>>7343457
>>7343463
Non-brit euro here, this mostly.

>> No.7343675

France, Germany, and Spain all had great game scenes nobody ever talk about partially due to the language barrier.

>> No.7343712

>>7343675
Spain does produce a lot of great artists and coders who work on AAA gaming but i don't remember any games actually developed in Spain by spanish companies except maybe Blasphemous.

>> No.7343723

>>7343712
Ever heard of Dinamic?

>> No.7343748

>>7341302
Love me Lionhead
Love me Free Radical

Simple as

>> No.7343753

>>7343712
Plenty of fairly well known titles here actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Video_games_developed_in_Spain

>> No.7343980

>>7343504
Rare is dead and Retro Studios replaced it.

>> No.7344002

>>7343753
Lords of Shadow is well know i suppose, outside of that not really much that's very notable, most of these scream "outsourced shovelware"

>> No.7344038

>>7344002
You've never heard of Severance and Commando?

>> No.7344098

>>7343980
This is /vr/ anon. We're talking about old stuff, not awful modern shite.

>> No.7344315

>>7343668
Eh come on now Tetris is pretty kick-ass, as well as the falling block puzzle genre it spawned.

>> No.7345172

>>7343675
Only France, Germany has a couple of good ones and Spain has only Commandos really (rest is shit)

>> No.7345539

>>7341302
>EU = Europe

EU Propaganda has done a number on you

>> No.7345598

>>7345539
>tfw even US propaganda couldn't persuade us that USA = America

EU best propaganda in the world desu

>> No.7346698

>>7341302
They all did

>> No.7347632
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>>7342936

The Euros are up there with anyone when it comes to 3d platformers. Prince of Persia, Banjo-Kazooie, Donkey Kong 64, Conker's Bad Fur Day, the Rayman series, Lego Star Wars and other Lego games, Pac-Man World, just to name a few.

Harry Potter games were good too.

>> No.7347676

>>7341376
>Japs only barely above USA
Americans are so cute

>> No.7347712

>>7341302
jap games had more polish, higher budgets, and better qol, but western ones were more creative.
it's no coincidence that japanese wizardry clones (aka "jrpgs") became one of the most popular genres of all time.

that being said, western devs caught up with japs in the 90's, and have bypassed them by far.
to this day, japs still churn out clones of the same 5 or so games

>> No.7347732

nips: jprgs
usa: doom
uk: gta
europe: they dont make anything its all the uk

>> No.7347839

>>7347732
>Delphine
>Factor 5
>Ubisoft
>Infogrames
>Quantic Dreams
>Rainbow Arts
etc

>> No.7350281

US just makes jewish EA tier garbage, definitely the worst.

>> No.7350287

>>7347839
true, delphine for flashback, factor5 for turrican, i can take or leave the rest, but most of the sw houses are/were in the uk, maybe I was being too harsh on the continentials

>> No.7350293

>>7341302
best games by volume: japan
best games overall: US
shittiest turds: EU

>> No.7350298

>>7343748
>Lionhead
lmao Peter Molyneux is a dumb faggot and Fable sucks ass.

>> No.7350343

>>7350293
Name 10 good American games

>> No.7350353

>>7343457
More specifically England. More specifically the Norf.

>> No.7350360

>>7350287
I hate Quantic Dreams myself but the point is that those are or were pretty relevant studios desu. It's mostly just France and Germany tho, places like Poland or Spain had their own scenes but they were never that big.

>> No.7350367

>>7341307
This also applies to televisions and sedans.

>> No.7350441

>>7350343
There are tons.
>StarCraft
>Diablo 2
>Warcraft 3
>Quake series
>DOOM series
> Duke Nukem 3D
>Postal 2 (fuck you, it's amazing)
>Gauntlet Legends / Dark Legacy
>Elder Scrolls series
>Command & Conquer series
There are even some good modern ones like the original Gears of War or Supreme Commander but most of you fags are too jaded to enjoy anything newer than 2000 so you don't want to hear about any of that.

>> No.7350965

>>7343712
They made some CastleVania games.

>> No.7350987

>>7350441
You didn't name any good games

>> No.7350992

>>7350343
Tony hawk pro skater , literally nothing else

>> No.7351019

>>7341302
Japan
Because they actually designed fun games with incredibly tight satisfying controls, that had good physics and momentum and were properly fucking bugtested.

seriously compare any western platformer ever made to Mario 3 or Mega Man X. Hell fuck it, I can't even think of a western platformer that's half as good as Mega Man Xtreme.
And if we're considering the PS2 retro, God of War was total dogshit and came out the same year as fucking Ninja Gaiden Black and Devil May Cry 3, which are considered the two best 3D action games ever made. The west has never competed with Japan outside of PC-centric genres like FPS and strategy.

>> No.7351026

>>7351019
>Because they actually designed fun games with incredibly tight satisfying controls, that had good physics and momentum and were properly fucking bugtested.
And then you played a Bits Laboratory or Micronics game.

>> No.7351035

>>7350987
>durrrrrrrrrrrrr games that are universally considered amongst the best ever made aren't good duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrr
what's your problem with Warcraft 3 faggot? you don't like building entire worlds and enjoy them in custom games with friends? maybe you should play quake then -- oh right, that's a shit game too, nothing fun about blowing demons into pieces and hopping around maps at light speed with rocket launchers and plasma guns. what are some good games then? JRPGs where you sit through a cringe anime story for 80 hours cycling through context menus?

>> No.7351045

Japan never made anything as satisfying as Total Annihilation or X-COM.

>> No.7351048

>>7341307
If it's jap, it's crap.

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>>7341307
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?

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>>7351019
>Because they actually designed fun games with incredibly tight satisfying controls, that had good physics and momentum and were properly fucking bugtested.

lol, is it opposite day?

>> No.7351070

>>7351053
very much, american and euro videogames are shit and you posted a completely unrelated image

>> No.7351071

>>7351035
Over half of that list is shit, anon. Good selling shit, but still shit. I will concede WC3, SC1, D2, and DOOM were good though.

>> No.7351105

>>7351064
do you really want the skyrim bug webms? or the trannypunk 2077 ones? really? we could be here for weeks

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>>7351053
you missed one

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>>7351035
>what's your problem with Warcraft 3 faggot? you don't like building entire worlds and enjoy them in custom games with friends? maybe you should play quake then -- oh right, that's a shit game too, nothing fun about blowing demons into pieces and hopping around maps at light speed with rocket launchers and plasma guns. what are some good games then? JRPGs where you sit through a cringe anime story for 80 hours cycling through context menus?

>> No.7351118

Japanese game developers are a stagnant beast begging to be put down like a rabid dog. They constantly fail to utilize hardware GPU effects, physics and overall making what could be done on the dreamcast at higher resolutions. Not to mention they never implement anything new in terms of AI or gameplay.
The "select actions from menu" approach that's so popular among japanese gamers is proof of this, this rather simplistic way of doing things allows them to focus on their interactive animes, instead of making japanese games go forward in terms of gameplay. Some studios within nintendo, sony and capcom have always been the exception of this rule, but the collective sticks to it religiously.
Your average /v/irgin is an overweight suburbanite obsessed with wapanese culture, of course they're loud, angry and hate halo and madden. They're too comfortable watching their games instead of playing them and they need "games" that will last them 70+ hours, since it's their primary activity. For the majority of the gaming community it's a whole different story though.

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>>7351118
>Japanese game developers are a stagnant beast begging to be put down like a rabid dog
true, we need more gta clones with generic fantasy and sci fi look and more generic fps games

>> No.7351134

>>7341302
>the EU

The fact you already had to include the entire European Union instead of a single country means Europe already fucking lost.

Japan has made some classic games, namely Pac-Man, Mario, and Galaga, but so has the US with Centipede, Asteroids, and Missile Command.

People who grew up with the NES and SNES and never explored beyond that range later in life will mostly say "Japan", because Japan was extremely restrictive of their third-party licensing deals, especially to companies outside of Japan, but if you go ahead and look at the Amiga and Commodore 64 and DOS libraries, you very quickly begin to realize that the US made just as many, if not more better games than Japan.

You had LucasArts, MicroProse, Sierra, Westwood, and id Software that made tons of classics and some of the best, most influential games ever period.

>>7341791
>Also Bullfrog, Codemasters, Core Design, Frontier, are all British. And we haven't covered German, French, and the rest of European studios here.
Literal who's.

>> No.7351135

>>7341694
>as for Europe nothing worth playing comes from that shithole kek
ich geb dir gleich volles pfund aufs maul

>> No.7351141

>>7351134
>but if you go ahead and look at the Amiga and Commodore 64 and DOS libraries, you very quickly begin to realize that the US made just as many, if not more better games than Japan
I've mentioned before that most of the really significant, trend-setting games on C64 and Amiga were American ones not Euro demo/jank shit. Turrican and Jack the Nipper left no lasting influence as Maniac Mansion or Bard's Tale did.

>> No.7351145

>>7351135
did you just sneeze?

>> No.7351149

>>7351112
>argument is a reddit tier reaction pic
got 'em

>> No.7351162

>>7351070
Okay, you're never allowed to play another American video game ever again, so that means no other-wise you forfeit your argument.

>> No.7351167

>>7351141
They did though. Hundreds of guys learned to code on the Spectrum and whatnot who often went on to careers in the industry.

>> No.7351169

>>7351130
>generic fantasy and sci fi look
You just defined Japanese sci-fi and fantasy.

>> No.7351185

Europe has always been held back by being 30 or so different countries with different languages, markets, and cultural preferences. The US and Japan are each a single country/culture/language/market.

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>>7351118
Within the last 20 years, there have been exactly 2 people who have innovated in Japanese game design....2....The first is Shinji Mikami, the second is Hidetaka Miyazaki. The rest of Japanese gaming is just awash with speedy design in order to appeal to the CONSOOMER.

>> No.7351192

>>7351185
I would just deduce Europe down to two countries; France and the UK. Those are the only two countries that matter when it comes to video games.

>> No.7351198

>>7351145
No, he's typing in German.

>> No.7351201

>>7351145
ok, genug ist genug
https://youtu.be/rRjNsWFetRo?t=174

>> No.7351205

>>7351045
Did I mention the X-COM guys needed an American dev (Microprose) to realize their vision? Elite or Domark didn't have the resources for a project of that scale.

>> No.7351213

>>7351192
But it also explains why Europe doesn't innovate much on the hardware side of things and nearly every important development in consumer electronics has come from the US and Japan. That Britain had its own indigenous computer industry is a feat; most European countries didn't have that. For example Germany despite its reputation as a tech powerhouse never made their own computers.

>> No.7351221

>>7351213
France and the UK were the least 2 effected infra-structure-wise by World War 2, and a third of the region was under Soviet control, so it makes sense why they were held back in designing titles.

>> No.7351260

>>7350987
Aaaand that's how we know you're a coping weeb with shit taste, thanks for playing!

>> No.7351302

>>7351260
cry more and go buy skirim for the 10th time jingoistic moron

>> No.7351326

>>7351064
From Software isn't comparable to something like Capcom the same way you don't compare Pony Canyon to Treasure.

>> No.7351356

>>7351213
Why bother? America threw some good computers to us which they themselves don't appreciate.

>> No.7351370

>>7351186
How did Miyazaki innovate annything?

>> No.7351431

>>7341302
>You have to involve the whole EU for Euros to even stand a chance against the USA and Japan.
Sad!

>> No.7351450

>>7351186
Americans have never innovated, everything they have bring to the table is to make gaming much much worse, like the fps shooter

>>7351169
No, only americatrash fantasy, literally every single wrpg ever made takes place in the same universe that looks exactly the same every time and is not even designed at all, is just 1:1 medieval clothing with no artistic vision at all, or simply star trek or generic post apocaliptic wasteland.

>> No.7351469

>>7341376
Switch Europe and USA and this is accurate

>> No.7351541

Americans were only good at Doom clones, strategy, simulation and point and click games. Most of their console stuff was absolutely lackluster and the idea of them being even remotely comparable to Japan is so ridiculous you can't take it seriously.
>No good fighting games
>No good beat em ups
>No good platformers
>No good shmups
>No good puzzle games
>No good rail shooters
>No good run and guns
So yeah if phew phew and pretending your running your own company sounds like the hottest shit to you Americans are amazing but c'mon. Just because Japan is shit now, doesn't mean you can top them at their prime. Western devs took years to catch on.

>> No.7351552

>>7351541
>No good fighting games
>No good beat em ups
You know Mortal Kombat wasn't Japanese right?

>> No.7351561

>>7351552
Retro Mortal Kombat is played like shit. The franchise is really good now, mind you.

>> No.7352230

>>7345539
The flag of Europe predates the EU though

>> No.7352265

>>7350441
>no Valve

>> No.7352295

>>7351213
You forgot the CPC, Dragon 32, BBC, Acorn, and Tiki. European computers except for the Speccy and CPC lost to their American counterparts because Europeans except for the british in some ways didn't have the microprocessor and RAM industry the Americans had. C64 was really cheap because all its part including the CPU and DRAM were manufactured in-house. Even Japanese computers couldn't compete with the American computers, which was the reason they were never exported to the US.

>> No.7352306

The greatest game ever made (Max Payne) was made in Finland.

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>>7352306
really? woah, the only game I knew of that came out of there was this

>> No.7352321

>>7352306
The writing sucked though, and they were trying to shove that down your throat.

>> No.7352325

>>7352230
and Europe predates the 1955 flag, I don't get your point

>> No.7352327

>>7341302
Everyone made good games. But the most good games coming from Jap I guess

>> No.7352331
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the only games I know that have come out of india are these two

>> No.7352346

>>7352327
Japanese games are massively overrated. There are some good ones but most of them are boring copious products.

>> No.7352368

>>7351186
It's really weird to me that screen caps from this still get reposted. I remember uploading this to YouTube 10 years ago from Australian TV.

>> No.7352370

>>7352346
>Japanese games are massively overrated
They're called tastes, anon. Doom bores me to death but I'm not going to say it's a shit game just because I don't like it, people suck id's dick here 24/7 so clearly their games mean a lot to to many people. So no, most jap games are not bad at all.

>> No.7352386

>>7351053

Imagine thinking this image doesn't apply in reverse or to any culture anywhere

>> No.7352393

>>7352370
>They're called tastes
Well no. I used to enjoy japanese games but they all got boring because most of them lacked originality and freedom.
>Doom bores me to death
It's not your fault. Doom doesn't have a lot of content, all you have to do in the entire game is killing the same 12 enemies using the same 9 non modifiable weapons and look for the same 3 keys. All enemies are made of 3 frame walking sprite and 1 frame hit detection sprite. It's made for 12 year old kids and brainless casuals.

>> No.7352396

>>7352386
it doesn't for the UK, we literally invented 99% of inventions, there was nobody for us to copy the industrial revolution from

>> No.7352404

Japan > US > the rest of Europe > UK & Spain

>> No.7352549

>>7352295
>C64 was really cheap because all its part including the CPU and DRAM were manufactured in-house
Commodore made SRAM, they didn't do DRAM though--that was bought from outside suppliers. By the mid-80s TI and Micron were the only American DRAM manufacturers.

>> No.7352614

>>7352346
Don't get yourself wrong. SMB3 is far from representative of most Japanese games. Look through the NES/FC library and you'll find lots of average paint-by-numbers crud.

>> No.7352628

>>7352614
Or even worse, when you have to look through the MSX, FM 7, and PC-88 library.

>> No.7352658

>>7352628
How much Wizardry and weeb dating sims does anyone need?

>> No.7352829

>>7351561
Mortal Kombat 2 and 3 played great, only MK1 had jank.

>> No.7352834

>>7352658
The "masterpiece" games on the japanese computers that most people remember are jerky, sluggish, and shallow action games with colours that hurt your eyes and wizardry inspired RPG stats that served no purpose whatsoever because the gameplay was linear and repetitive as fuck. They were more unplayable than most speccy games and there's a reason they practically disappeared from history.

>> No.7352841

>>7351450
>No, only americatrash fantasy, literally every single wrpg ever made takes place in the same universe that looks exactly the same every time and is not even designed at all, is just 1:1 medieval clothing with no artistic vision at all, or simply star trek or generic post apocaliptic wasteland.

Lmao, Ultima literally proves you wrong and that was made almost 40 years ago, as it combines Medieval Fantasy with Sci-Fi epic, holy shit weebs are stupid, clueless, retards.

>> No.7352860

>>7352834
>They were more unplayable than most speccy games and
I suspect one reason was that JPCs had big hi-res graphics screens that cost a lot of CPU to move stuff around. The PC-8800 had a 48k graphics page while the Spectrum had just 6k. While this made Wizardry and hentai games look nice, it was a killer for action stuff.

>> No.7353037

>>7351541
>>No good fighting games
Primal Rage? Mortal Kombat? Weaponlord? Pit-Fighter?

>No good beat em ups
Comix Zone (which puts the majority of them to shame with the quality of its animation and originality of its gameplay)? The Punisher (Genesis)? Rampage?

>>No good platformers
Now that's just laughably wrong. There's Earthworm Jim, Sonic 2, Super Star Wars, Commander Keen, ToeJam & Earl, Pitfall, The Lion King, Lode Runner, MDK, Aladdin (Genesis), Jurassic Park, Duke Nukem, Alien Carnage, and so on and so forth.

>>No good shmups
Again, laughably wrong, as Spacewar! practically invented the genre. There's also Tempest, Defender (which the japs and other americans and euros all copied to no end), DemonStar, Spyhunter, and plenty of other ones on the C64 and Amiga I could go through and mention one by one.

>no good Puzzle games
Out-right stupid opinion. The US makes the objective best puzzle games around, just look at point and click adventure games, which are essentially puzzle games.

>No good rail shooters
*Sigh* CarnEvil, Crossbow, Area 51, Big Buck Hunter, Terminator 2: Judgement Day.

>>No good run and guns
And possibly THE dumbest statement of them all...although they're all equally as stupid. Zombies Ate My Neighbors, Metal Warriors, Vectorman, Smash TV, NARC, Total Carnage, Xenophobe, etc, etc, etc, we all know how this goes, you don't know anything about gaming and it shows.

>> No.7353042

>>7352860
Didn't they have low res mode? The C64 had hires and lowres modes.

>> No.7353062

>>7351450
>Americans have never innovated, everything they have bring to the table is to make gaming much much worse, like the fps shooter

Americans/The West invented:
Puzzle Games
SHMUPS
RPG's
Racing games
Flight sims
Platformers
Sports games
Lightgun games
Third Person Shooters
First Person Shooters
RTS's
City-builders

Everything they've brought to the table has been a jump forward in gaming, to deny such would be to be a biased dipshit.

>> No.7353070

>>7347676
The point isn't that Americans are close to Jap, it's that not matter how far you gap them the Euros are much further behind.

>> No.7353072

>>7353042
Standard graphics on the PC-8800 were 640x400. Some machines had a 320x400 mode. This was if you recall when most Western computers had 320x200 or 160x200 or even less than that.

>> No.7353085

>>7352396
>we literally invented 99% of inventions

Except you didn't.

>Microchips
>Modern computers
>Airplanes
>The internet
>Submarines
>Tasers
>Email
>UPC codes
>Video game consoles
>MRI machines
>Graphical User interface
>3D printers
>Google
>Wi-Fi
>deodorant

>all invented by the US

>> No.7353097

>>7341376
USA > Jap >> Europe

I mean, name me a game with wider name-recognition than Pong?

>> No.7353104
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>>7353085
small time, we broke the world out of the malthusian trap

>> No.7353108

>>7353037
There there, Mortal Kombat was already a strech but your list is so filled with shovelware, plainly non american games and technicalities it made me chuckle.

I'll give you Comix Zone and Vectorman tho.

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>>7352396
>>7353104
Now invent a toothbrush or a bill of rights.

>> No.7353114

>>7353097
Super Mario Bros

>> No.7353115

>>7353112
>wojak shitter
kill yourself my man

>> No.7353116

>>7353085
you forgot
>basic dental hygiene

>> No.7353123
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>>7353104
No, Rome did, until you brits wasted their manpower taming your bog-diving asses.

>> No.7353134 [DELETED] 

>>7353108
>plainly non-American games

Care to list them? I assure you, each and every single one I mentioned was American made.

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>>7353123
Do you see this? this is everywhere, we have stomped, owned, colonized.
You are speaking English, not Latin.
We defeated the Romans.
They were small time.

>> No.7353146

>>7353139
And now they all kicked you out and hate white people. Great job.

>> No.7353152

>>7353108
>plainly non-American games
Care to list them? I assure you, each and every single one I mentioned was American made.

>so filled with shovelware
Lmao, and so are the Japanese games you'll inevitably list. Anyone can say that, it means nothing, especially since half the games I mentioned are classics, some of which are included in the Smithsonian. Cope more weeb.

>> No.7353156

>>7353146
I have a job, babyboy.
And we don't kneel to niggers like you with a culture completely based around niggers.
Enjoy your rap, basketball and ugly sneakers.

>> No.7353159

>>7353139
>We defeated the Romans.

No, you didn't, they actually crucified the slut that tried to start a rebellion, it's why the capital of your entire heart-land is from what the Roman's named it, forever giving you the tramp-stamp of their empire to be remembered eternally in the annals of history.

>> No.7353163

>>7353156
>Great job
>I have a job
For inventing English you don't understand it very well.

>> No.7353167

I also used to think Japan made the best vidya when I was underage. Now I cringe to that mere thought.
Don't get me wrong, some of my favorite games of all time were made in Japan, but if you can't expand your horizons you have objectively bad taste. The west excels in genres Japs haven't even dare to touch.

>> No.7353169

>>7353163
You don't have a job, that was my point, shitter.

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7353175

>>7353156
I'm sorry, what was that?

>> No.7353182

>>7353167
This guy knows what's up ^

>> No.7353183

>>7353175
>8 years of a nigger president
>best he can do is a powerless paki town mayor

>> No.7353186

>>7351071
>Gauntlet Dark Legacy
>shit
yeah you can go die now

>> No.7353187

>>7353183
>town mayor
>town

You brought it up, not me. If you can't take the heat, get out of Africa.

>> No.7353197

>>7353134
If you're going to call Sonic 2 American just because Naka used some STI yes men as cannon fodder coders (and refused to do so again in Sonic 3 because he hated working with them) you may as well consider every single Virgin platformer a British game because of Dave Perry. As a coproduction, it's a slipery slope, and since you don't sound particularly dumb, I'll just assume that you're perfectly aware of it and just went USA USA for shit and giggles. Same with naming an American port of a japanese game, calling point and click games "puzzle games" as if they have anything to do with Tetris or naming games from second gen systems because you have literally nothing else.

>> No.7353201

USA for strategy, sims and FPS
Japan for everything else
Eurotards ruin every genre they touch

>> No.7353204
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>>7341302
>American game development sucks because for a long time it was a top down process driven by executives who didn’t play games. In England they had the ZX Spectrum and this is where a lot of 15, 16, 17 year old kids honed their trade in the 80s. Then you get guys—real genius coders—like Matthew Smith, the Stamper brothers and the guys at Rockstar coming through and completely changing the landscape. All of these guys cut their teeth on the Spectrum and the British micro-computer scene. We never really had that here.
—John Romero, creator of Doom, speaking at the 2012 GDC Europe

>> No.7353209

>>7353152
>Lmao, and so are the Japanese games you'll inevitably list.
Yeah Japs sure missed on Pit Fighter and its legendary competitive scene

>> No.7353212

>>7353204
Noticed how he said genius coders and not genius game designers

>> No.7353215

>>7353204
>says the tranny who got famous by leeching off autistic American nerds making whatever they wanted

>> No.7353265

>>7353197
>If you're going to call Sonic 2 American

The project was a joint-development between American and Japanese developers, but if it really makes you butthurt, I can easily just replace it with Oddworld.

>Same with naming an American port of a japanese game
You mean The Punisher? The Genesis version was not the same as the Arcade version, featuring different art work, different soundtracks, and different level design. They essentially made an entire game based on the frame-work of what Sega's arcade game was.

So you've pointed out one game of my entire list that has contention regarding it's status as "American", which I replaced with an even more original and highly acclaimed title. You're not making a good point for yourself here.

>or naming games from second gen systems because you have literally nothing else.
You literally just named Tetris, lmao, how hypocritical can you get? I also love how you can't compare with what I've named so you go on the attack, using well-poisoning tactics to think that me mentioning Defender and Tempest somehow makes those games disappear, when it just strengthens my opinion revealing how afraid you are of challenging them. Grow up please? And just admit you posted a dumb, arrogant, hot-take.

>> No.7353271

>>7353215
This, Romero is the perfect example of a hack fraud that happened to be at the right place at the right time.

>> No.7353278

>>7353204
This is where I have to question what the fuck Romero was talking about, the C64 and Amiga were both bigger than the ZX Spectrum and the british micro-computer scenes ever were.

>> No.7353281

>>7351064
What resolution is that?
Was that filmed with a fucking Gameboy Color?

>> No.7353284

>>7353204
>we never really had that here
>blatantly ignoring he was working next to one of the most innovative coders Video Gaming ever knew
>John Carmack

Romero is a top-tier idiot, isn't he?

>> No.7353289

>>7353278
Most of the C64 and Amiga scenes happened and still are happening in Europe...

>> No.7353293 [DELETED] 

>>7353289
Yea, so it's just a case of Romero not knowing what the fuck he was talking about.

>> No.7353294

>>7353284
Carmhack didn't invent shit. Lucasarts had been doing 3D games long before he did.

>> No.7353296

>>7353293
He's not wrong though? Its still a european microcomputer scenes even if it involves imported computers.

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>> No.7353306

>>7351053
/vr/ - Retro Games

>> No.7353314 [DELETED] 

>>7353289
Most of the scenes are happening in Europe right now for them, but 20 years ago you'd be lying to yourself if you think it was only in Europe. Why do you think the US is the monolith in the gaming industry that it is today? Why do you think almost all of the best indie games come from the US?

I'll give the European demo scene props, but Romero is out of his retarded fucking mind if he thinks that there weren't demo-scenes in the US. New York was the capital of the demo scene world-wide in the 90's.

>> No.7353317 [DELETED] 

>>7353314
30 years ago*

Damn time flies.

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7353342

>>7353204
>Indie developer Phil Fish landed himself in hot water at a GDC movie screening this week after telling a Japanese developer that his country's games all sucked. His response was, "Your games just suck," - "Japanese games are just two western games duct-taped together."

>> No.7353351

>>7353294
Carmack is responsible for revolutionizing VR.

>> No.7353358

>>7353351
VR is a meme and will fail (again)

>> No.7353376

>>7353342
He wasn't wrong. for a faggot, that was based

>> No.7353390

>>7353212
kek, yea, I wonder why

>> No.7353391

>>7353314
>Most of the scenes are happening in Europe right now for them, but 20 years ago you'd be lying to yourself if you think it was only in Europe.
It wasnt only in Europe, but europe had the bigger and more widespread scene. Accessible publishing for indie games sort of died in the US after Atari exchange program ended. Meanwhile in Europe there were tons of fun programming magazines and tv programmes for young kids.
>Why do you think the US is the monolith in the gaming industry that it is today?
Rockstar and Ubisoft aren't American. Psygnosis is responsible for the PS1's success while atari jaguar died.
>Why do you think almost all of the best indie games come from the US?
I dont think they do.
>Romero is out of his retarded fucking mind if he thinks that there weren't demo-scenes in the US.
Of course there were but it was bigger in europe.

>> No.7353401

>>7353391
>Rockstar and Ubisoft aren't American

And Take-Two, Activision-Blizzard, Valve, Naughty Dog aren't European.

>> No.7353405 [DELETED] 

>>7353391
>Psygnosis is responsible for the PS1's

Yes, with such hits as...................oh, and we can't forget their landmark PS1 title..............................but oh, they did develop the innovative PS1 game..................

>> No.7353413

>>7353405
>with such hits as....
The PS1 system architecture and development kit itself.

>> No.7353427

>>7353265
>The project was a joint-development between American and Japanese developers
You mean Naka travelled to the states with a few key members of Sonic Team and filled some of the lesser positions with STI guys, something he would later regret and explicitly ban most of them from working on Sonic 3.
>Oddworld
Yup this one is pretty good. Way better than Keen, Alien Carnage and the other Superfrog tier stuff.
>You mean The Punisher? The Genesis version was not the same as the Arcade version, featuring different art work, different soundtracks, and different level design. They essentially made an entire game based on the frame-work of what Sega's arcade game was
So what? Plenty of arcade conversions were like that back then, that's why I called it a technicality. So we have Comix Zone and a remake/port, what else, anon? I can name more than 15 jap ones.
>You literally just named Tetris, lmao, how hypocritical can you get
Tetris, Tetris Attack (not the same game), Puyo Puyo, Dr Mario, Lemmings...
>I also love how you can't compare with what I've named so you go on the attack, using well-poisoning tactics to think that me mentioning Defender and Tempest somehow makes those games disappear, when it just strengthens my opinion revealing how afraid you are of challenging them
What's there to challenge? How many shmups did America make after the Crash? Modern shumps evolved from stuff like Galaxians.

>> No.7353428

>>7353413
>>7353391
>The PS1 system architecture and development kit itself.

And where are you getting that from?

>Accessible publishing for indie games sort of died in the US after Atari exchange program ended
Are you talking about the 90's specifically? Because the only indie games that matter nowadays are US indie games
>Cuphead
>Super Meat Boy
>Binding of Isaac
>DUSK
>Enter the Gungeon
>Among Us

>> No.7353516

>>7353427
>You mean Naka travelled to the states with a few key members of Sonic Team and filled some of the lesser positions with STI guys, something he would later regret and explicitly ban most of them from working on Sonic 3.
Regardless, it was a joint venture.

>Way better than Keen, Alien Carnage and the other Superfrog tier stuff.
More acknowledgement you have no idea what you're talking about, lmao, calling Earthworm Jim "superfrog" tier, oh man, you really are one dumb little kid aren't you? Ahhhh, thanks for the laugh.

> I can name more than 15 jap ones.
I'm sure you could, no doubt Batman Returns-tier. By the way, you forgot about Rampage, which I'd rather play over literally any Japanese beat-em-up.

>Tetris, Tetris Attack (not the same game), Puyo Puyo, Dr Mario, Lemmings...
Lemmings and Tetris aren't Japanese, so even MORE stupidity, man, how did you even graduate, or did you not yet?

>What's there to challenge? How many shmups did America make after the Crash? Modern shumps evolved from stuff like Galaxians.
I don't know, SHMUPS are mostly a dog shit genre that I only know of because of Defender, Tempest, and Spyhunter, the rest is just niche trash that japs shit out to appease autists the rest of the time.

>Modern shumps evolved from stuff like Galaxians.
Ah yes, the Space Invaders rip-off, once again showing off how uninformed and ignorant you are, truly a sight to behold.

>> No.7353540

>>7353516
I know you're frustated and stuff, but no ammount of ad hominems can improve the retro American library, anon.
>More acknowledgement you have no idea what you're talking about, lmao, calling Earthworm Jim "superfrog tier"
Notice how I was mostly refering to the PC stuff, the David Perry ones fall into the slipery slope category.
>By the way, you forgot about Rampage, which I'd rather play over literally any Japanese beat-em-up.
Rampage barely qualifies as a brawler
>Lemmings and Tetris aren't Japanese
The point is that those are not American either. I could have named stuff like Intelligent Cube or some stuff with long weird names but I prefered to keep it simple.
>Ah yes, the Space Invaders rip-off
You know that game isn't American either, right?

>> No.7353574

>>7353540
>I know you're frustated and stuff, but no ammount of ad hominems can improve the retro American library, anon.
Ironic, since your first response was appeal to ridicule, and then you've simply been using the dismissive fallacy when it suits you. Also, glad to see you don't know how ad hominem works since ad hominem is only an ad hominem if my argument singularly relies on the insult being the basis of my argument. I was simply throwing in verbal abuse.

>Notice how I was mostly refering to the PC stuff, the David Perry ones fall into the slipery slope category.
Yea, referred to 2 of the 3 PC games and then say "referring mostly to the PC stuff", lmao, oh, you mean Duke Nukem? The sole remaining PC title that I listed? Needless to say you already fucked yourself by saying Commander Keen was Superfrog-tier, so your opinion on the matter is veritably worthless, as you're operating from a disingenuous standpoint altogether.

>The point is that those are not American either. I could have named stuff like Intelligent Cube or some stuff with long weird names but I prefered to keep it simple.
Then why bring up japanese beat em ups specifically that you could list? Sheesh, you have zero consistency in your argument, probably the way you prefer it so if you get proven wrong you can exempt yourself from responsibility of previous statements.

>You know that game isn't American either, right?
You know, that game that literally pre-dated Galaxians and if you were trying to frame the origin of SHMUPS (which it wasn't), you would've said?

>> No.7353586

>>7353306
There are literally 4 different retro video game references in that list.

>> No.7353591

>>7341307
/thread

>> No.7353596

>>7353586
Nice dude, you pic is 0.5% videogames and you got humiliated the entire thread regardless of that. Impressive

>> No.7353598

>>7353596
>your pic

I didn't make it.

>> No.7353605

>>7353574
>Yea, referred to 2 of the 3 PC games and then say "referring mostly to the PC stuff", lmao, oh, you mean Duke Nukem? The sole remaining PC title that I listed?
Yup, it's called being a ESL continental. Astonishing, right?

>Needless to say you already fucked yourself by saying Commander Keen was Superfrog-tier
It's even worse, I was actually being pretty generous. I mean comparing it to B tier Jap stuff would already make it look pretty bad, but the first 3 were competing with SMB3, and 4 was competing with SMW and Sonic. PC players only remember it because they had nothing else.
>You know, that game that literally pre-dated Galaxians and if you were trying to frame the origin of SHMUPS (which it wasn't), you would've said?
Do you really believe that I'm familiar with things like the developement of Sonic 2 but somehow didn't know about one of the most well known jap games ever? And how is that related to American games, anon?

>> No.7353606

>>7353596
>and you got humiliated the entire thread regardless of that

Also, that's hilarious that you think so, since it only had 4 responses, only 3 of which were butthurt responses.

>> No.7353617

>>7353606
>>7353598
Now say it without crying

>> No.7353638

>>7353376
sure thing billy bob

>> No.7353669

>>7353605
>Yup, it's called being a ESL continental. Astonishing, right?
So that means you can't count? What are you trying to give an excuse for now? That you were blatantly using vague language to cover for the fact that you had a pathetic excuse?

>It's even worse, I was actually being pretty generous. I mean comparing it to B tier Jap stuff would already make it look pretty bad, but the first 3 were competing with SMB3, and 4 was competing with SMW and Sonic. PC players only remember it because they had nothing else.
Lol, go right ahead and compare it to B-tier jap-crap, you're not going to prove anything, it's not going to magically erase the legacy Keen has created for itself, regardless of how much you fantasize about it not being so. By the way, I'm referring to the fact that Superfrog is not a well known title, Commander Keen sold way more than Superfrog, but Superfrog is actually a legit, quality platformer.

>Do you really believe that I'm familiar with things like the developement of Sonic 2 but somehow didn't know about one of the most well known jap games ever?
What exactly is the relationship between Sonic 2 and Galaxians? Is there a missing thread here? Oh, of course, you're familiar with the development of Sonic 2, so of course that means you know the history of SHMUPS....?

>And how is that related to American games, anon?
Because Americans invented SHMUPS? Space Invaders was important for a bunch of other reasons, primarily being it helped popularized video games in the first place.

Also, going back to your "Puzzle Games" question - Marble Madness, Minesweeper, Bejeweled come off the top of my head, if you won't accept point and clicks (even though the entire basis for them is solving context-sensitive puzzles).

>> No.7353673

>>7353617
Awww, look, I made him upset.

>> No.7353701

>>7353167
/thread

>> No.7353705

>>7353167
>The west excels in genres Japs haven't even dare to touch
Has Japan ever made an RTS? I don't recall there being any.

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>>7341302

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>>7353705
>tfw even RTS games based on Feudal Japan were all made in the West

>> No.7353723

>>7347712
You really don't know anything about Japanese games if you think they were less creative than Western games.

>that being said, western devs caught up with japs in the 90's, and have bypassed them by far.
>to this day, japs still churn out clones of the same 5 or so games
The West makes shitty tranny and nigger simulators and milks franchises to death, and they've even manage to fuck over the Japanese game industry with their bullshit.

>> No.7353737

>>7341381
>Japs make good consistent quality

No, they don't, it's simply only the quality games manage to get ported over to the US, and even then mountains of garbage manage to still slip through, like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde for the NES.

>> No.7353749

>>7353737
And yet they still make more good games than all other parts of the world combined

>> No.7353753

>>7353737
Really. Try and look through the NES/SNES/PS1 releases we didn't get and see just how much kusoge there is. Protip: It's a lot.

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>>7353723
>milks franchises to death
Tell me, how many Final Fantasy, Dynasty Warriors, Fire Emblem, Mario, Zelda, and Castlevania entries are we at now?

>The West makes shitty tranny and ni**** simulators
Pic related.

>and they've even manage to fuck over the Japanese game industry with their bullshit.
Remember when the Metroid developers purposely made Samus a girl to surprise players who thought she was a man? Ahhh, good times.

>> No.7353761

>>7353749
>this is what weebs actually think

>> No.7353776

>>7353754
>Tell me, how many Final Fantasy, Dynasty Warriors, Fire Emblem, Mario, Zelda, and Castlevania entries are we at now?
How many Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Halo, Need for Speed, Fifa/NBA/NFL and Battlefield entries are we at now?

>Pic related.
The fuck is this supposed to prove?

>Remember when the Metroid developers purposely made Samus a girl to surprise players who thought she was a man? Ahhh, good times.
What the fuck does this have to do with 2021? Are you insane?

>> No.7353790

>>7353776
>How many Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Halo, Need for Speed, Fifa/NBA/NFL and Battlefield entries are we at now?
Far less than any of the titles I just listed, aside from the sports titles, which are usually just shovelware.

>The fuck is this supposed to prove?
Not spoon-feeding you.

>What the fuck does this have to do with 2021? Are you insane?
Wow you're really a big dipshit huh? Japanese games have had elements of "SJW'ism" far longer than the west. They also had trannies in their games earlier than the West, does Poison from Final Fight ring a bell?

>> No.7353795

>>7353790
Yeah I guess the Western industry hasn't been able to produce as many successful series as Japan.

>Not spoon-feeding you.
So it means nothing. Got it.

>Wow you're really a big dipshit huh? Japanese games have had elements of "SJW'ism" far longer than the west.
The fuck does Samus being a woman have to do with SJWism, dipshit?

>They also had trannies in their games earlier than the West, does Poison from Final Fight ring a bell?
Trap/tranny character != LGBT/SJW.

>> No.7353797

>>7353754
>cherrypicked example from a current-year game's English localization
I mean, what did they expect? Also this picture seems like something that would be posted on r/gamingcirclejerk

>> No.7353798

>>7353795
>Yeah I guess the Western industry hasn't been able to produce as many successful series as Japan.
Call of Duty has had fewer entries and yet has sold more copies than Final Fantasy, so that statement is some laughable cope, oh man you're pathetic.

>So it means nothing. Got it.
Not spoon-feeding you.

>The fuck does Samus being a woman have to do with SJWism, dipshit?
>tricking the player into thinking Samus is a guy
>revealing it's a woman at the end
It's harmless, but it's still SJW'ism.

>Trap/tranny character != LGBT/SJW.

>anon gets upset over tranny games
>gets pointed to trannies in his beloved weaboo games
>NOOOO, THOSE DON'T COUNT
lmao'ing at your life

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>>7353797
>game's English localization
Funfact: "It's how it is in the original"

>> No.7353803

>>7353798
>Call of Duty has had fewer entries and yet has sold more copies than Final Fantasy
Because Western gamers love to eat shit. Cope.

>Not spoon-feeding you.
You can't explain what it means. Oh man you're pathetic. You posted it and don't even know what it means.

>tricking the player into thinking Samus is a guy
>revealing it's a woman at the end
So no relation to SJWism at all.

>anon gets upset over tranny games
>gets pointed to trannies in his beloved weaboo games
>NOOOO, THOSE DON'T COUNT
Because they don't, you fucking dishonest kike. Your kikeshit LGBT ideology does not apply to literally every trap/trans character or person that has ever existed.

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>>7353803
>Because Western gamers love to eat shit. Cope.
Hah, funny, pic related.

>You can't explain what it means. Oh man you're pathetic. You posted it and don't even know what it means.
You're a retard, you're going to have to get smart or have someone else explain it to you, because I'm not. No reason for me to either, since you're just a loser retard shitposting about your weeb butthurt on an anonymous image board.

>So no relation to SJWism at all.
HURRR

>Because they don't, you fucking dishonest kike. Your kikeshit LGBT ideology does not apply to literally every trap/trans character or person that has ever existed.
DURRRRRRRR HUUURRRR DURF

>> No.7353808

>>7353805
>Hah, funny, pic related.
Another non-sequitur.

>You're a retard
No, you're a retard who posted an image as an argument without even comprehending what it means. Retard.

>your weeb butthurt
Except I never said or implied that I'm a weeb, retard.

>HURRR
>DURRRRRRRR HUUURRRR DURF
Dumb fucking kike.

>> No.7353809

>>7353808
>Another non-sequitur.
Japanese love eating shit. They make ice cream shaped like it specifically because of it.

>No, you're a retard who posted an image as an argument without even comprehending what it means. Retard.
HURRRRRRR, ME WEEABOO, ME GO POOPOO IN PANTSU, HURRRR

>Except I never said or implied that I'm a weeb, retard.
GAAAHHHHHHHUURRRR DURR

>Dumb fucking kike.
DURRR HURRRHURHRURHUR

>> No.7353814 [DELETED] 

>>7353809
>Japanese love eating shit. They make ice cream shaped like it specifically because of it.
You mean Westerners love eating shit.

>HURRRRRRR, ME WEEABOO, ME GO POOPOO IN PANTSU, HURRRR
>GAAAHHHHHHHUURRRR DURR
>DURRR HURRRHURHRURHUR
Dumb fucking kike subhuman. It's really too bad the holocaust didn't happen.

>> No.7353818

>>7353814
>You mean Westerners love eating shit.
DURRRR, ME WEEBOOO, ME LUV EATING SHIT DIRECTLY FROM NOZZLE, GIB FINAL FANTASY DOGSHIT MMO PLOX, OM NO NOM

>Dumb fucking kike subhuman. It's really too bad the holocaust didn't happen.
HURRRR DURRRF DUR FUR

>> No.7353821 [DELETED] 

>>7353818
Subhuman dumbfuck kike. Kill yourself.

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>>7353798
Ahem... pic related made SJWs seethe, cope and dilate.

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>>7353821
Lol, shut the fuck up you dogshit non-human, it's amazing you can even use a keyboard.

>> No.7353826 [DELETED] 

>>7353824
Japan's suicide meme is another one of your fucking kike propanda creations. Disgusting subhuman.

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>>7353823
>pic related made SJWs seethe, cope and dilate.

Mmm, no, pic related actually did because people actually played this game.

>> No.7353829

>>7353826
>REEE, EVERYTHING IS A KIKE, EVERYTHING IS PROPAGANDA, REEEE

Lmao, literal mental breakdown happening rn on 4chan.

>> No.7353832 [DELETED] 

>>7353829
Of course it's propaganda you fucking shit-eating kike.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

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>>7353832
>JAPAN DOES NOT HAVE A HIGH SUICIDE RATE
>literally proves that it does

What did he mean by this?

>> No.7353839 [DELETED] 

>>7353836
Literally proves your kikeshit wrong. You're always fucking going on about how they're number one in suicides when in reality there are a lot of countries with higher suicide rates, which your kike propaganda outlets never mention. Fuck off.

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>>7353839
Mmmm, I'm sure, a fat retard such as yourself must be an aficionado on Japan, eh?

>> No.7353847

>>7353843
Nice projection fat retard, and nice shopped screenshot. Just the kind of bullshit I'd expect from a fucking kike.

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>>7353847
>N-N-N-NO, I-I-I-IT'S A LIE!

lmao, look at all that cope you have, kike

>> No.7353853

>>7353850
Miyazaki doesn't know jack shit about anime or otaku, dumb fucking kike.

>> No.7353858

>>7353853
Can't wait to share your posts with my Thai friend, he always gets a kick out of retarded weaboo disphits, lmao

>> No.7353859

>>7353858
Retarded fucking subhuman kike.

>> No.7353881

>>7353832
>>7353839
>higher female suicide rate than North Korea and Russia
>higher combined suicide rate than Sri Lanka
>female suicide rate surged by 80% during covid pandemic https://www.cbsnews.com/news/female-suicide-surge-japan-covid-pandemic-could-be-warning-world-womens-mental-health/
b-but muh k-kikes....

>> No.7353887

>>7353881
Like I just said, you fucking kikes are always going on about how they are #1 in suicides and never mention a word about any other countries. Fuck you and fuck your propaganda.

>> No.7353890

>>7353859
I know you are but what am I.

>> No.7353892

>>7353890
Eat shit kike.

>> No.7353895

>>7353892
I know you do but what do I do?

>> No.7353897

>>7353895
Biden lost.

>> No.7353902

>>7341302
Japan
Because Nintendo is Japanese

>> No.7353904

>>7353897
I wish.

>> No.7353908

>>7351045
You bring up a good point.
I think American games have more of a "punch". The explosions are satisfying. The color and sound match the design just perfectly. All the pops of shots that kill aliens in xcom.
Japanese shmups are great too. But there's something about American violence that gets it right when it comes to killing a humanoid or fleshy creature.

>> No.7353910

>>7353887
The only countries above Japan when it comes to female suicide are a bunch of developing countries in africa, south america, and south east asia, and china and south korea which have just developed recently and still have problems with poverty. It's got the number #1 female suicide among countries that have been developed for many decades.

>> No.7353912

>>7353908
This is a really weird post.

>> No.7353913

>>7353910
Can we get off the political shit and get back to having a console war over countries?

>> No.7353915

>>7353910
There are many countries with higher suicide rates, yet you kikes never ever mention them, and always make it seem as if Japan is #1 and is the only country where suicide is even worth talking about.

Fuck you.

>> No.7353920

>>7353915
Oh yeah and I also like how you can't find the time to talk about the opioid crisis that you engineered.

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/07/22/the-white-plague-part-i-an-empire-of-death-the-rise-of-the-house-of-sackler/

>> No.7353924

>>7353428
>the only indie games that matter nowadays are US indie games
That would be Sweden actually. Minecraft, Hotline Miami, Penumbra, Amnesia, Soma are all swedish.

>where are you getting that from?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_(console)#Development

>> No.7353926

>>7353920
>you engineered

Jews? Are you implying that it isn't the fault of the Chinese, flooding the drug market with fentanyl through drug runners across out southern border?

>> No.7353929

>>7353915
schizo

>> No.7353930

>>7353926
>I-it wasn't us, goy!
Fuck off.

>> No.7353934

>>7353929
No, I'm not a schizo for plainly pointing out your fucking kike propaganda tactics. Speaking of which, you have a history of claiming that anyone who doesn't comply with your program is mentally ill.

Fuck you.

>> No.7353941

>>7353924
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_(console)#Development
Oh, interesting.

>That would be Sweden actually. Minecraft, Hotline Miami, Penumbra, Amnesia, Soma are all swedish.
Minecraft was inspired by Dwarf Fortress, so once more, it loops back around to American indie games. Also, do you have anymore? Or is that literally all of them?

I mean, surely a country that you consider to be the "pinnacle of indie games" has multiple hits releasing every year, right?

>> No.7353945

>>7353930
>us
Not a jew you schizo faggot.

>> No.7353946

>>7353945
Oh yes my apologies, you are of course a "fellow white person" (for today).

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>>7353946
Sound an awful lot like a butthurt 50-center CCP shill, trying to steer everything away from the chink-shills to the moloch worshippers.

>> No.7353963

>>7353952
Nice try, kike.

>> No.7353969

>>7353963
Nice try, CCP shill.

>> No.7353970

>>7353969
This has nothing to do with China, this is just something you pulled out of your ass at random to deflect attention away from the fact that you're a dirty fucking kike.

>> No.7353978

>>7353970
>this is just something you pulled out of your ass at random to deflect attention away

Wow, ironic, almost like that's exactly what you're doing.

>> No.7353983

>>7353978
Shut the fuck up. This has nothing to do with China. You brought up China out of nowhere. You fucking abominable kike. Piece of fucking shit.

>> No.7353987

>>7353983
Shut the fuck up. This has nothing to do with jews. You brought up jews out of nowhere. You fucking abominable chink. Piece of fucking shit.

>> No.7353994

>>7353987
You fucking rats make my blood boil. Absolute scum of the fucking earth. Always tricking, plotting, gaslighting and bullshitting. Hitler should have wiped you all out.

>> No.7353996

>>7353994
You fucking rats make my blood boil. Absolute scum of the fucking earth. Always tricking, plotting, gaslighting and bullshitting. Trump should have wiped you all out.

>> No.7353997

>>7353996
Fuck you.

>> No.7354001

>>7353997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9H7qaxstYY

>> No.7354013

>>7354001
Fuck you.

>> No.7354015

>>7354013
I try to live my life, live my life everyday
Keep out of strife, come what may
I try to do unto others as I'd have them do to me
But it can't be done for everyone
And now it's plain to see

You are a cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt
A big fat stinking cunt
Say it ain't true but I'm here to tell you
You're a motherfucking cunt
You are a cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt
A motherfucking cunt (Fuck you!)
Everybody knows from your head to your toes
You're a big fat stinking cunt

I try to be real nice, say it twice
Be real nice
Even though it is hard to keep up this facade
And now I see, deary me
What a hassle this could be
I'm out of luck, don't give a fuck
'Cause you're the cunt, not me
(Why don't you go fuck yourself, dickhead?)

You are a cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt
A big fat stinking cunt
Say it ain't true but I'm here to tell you
You're a motherfucking cunt
You are a cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt
A motherfucking cunt
Everybody knows from your head to your toes
You're a big fat stinking cunt

Why don't you shut that scabby cunt mouth before I fuck up your face?

I try to be real nice, say it twice
Good advice
Even though it's futile
Fucking imbecile
I don't know why, why I try
To deny this nagging itch
You maniac, gonna get you back
You fucking son of a bitch

You are a cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt
A big fat stinking cunt
Say it ain't true but I'm here to tell you
You're a motherfucking cunt
You are a cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt
A motherfucking cunt
Everybody knows from your head to your toes
You're a big fat stinking cunt

>> No.7354019

>>7354015
Kill yourself kike.

>> No.7354020

>>7354019
Kill yourself fat retarded loser.

>> No.7354028 [DELETED] 

>>7354020
Fucking kike piece of shit. Fuck you.

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Everything they made is gold

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>>7353706
>both
>3 options

>> No.7354671

>>7353801
Either way it's not retro so bringing it up here is irrelevant

>> No.7355223

>>7341302
You made this to start a flame war, didn't you?

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>>7354668
Europe is shit, so obviously referring to Japan and US.

>> No.7355614

>>7355236
Europe? I've never seen someone misspell America that badly

>> No.7355618

>>7355236
More retro than you, José

>> No.7355645

>>7355614
>>7355618
>gets butthurt over a shitpost in response to an even bigger shitpost

Imagine.

>> No.7355691

>>7355645
I'd rather not

>> No.7355847

>>7341302
Japan, duh.
>>7341307
Based af

>> No.7355859

>>7351053
>makes exsisting stuff better
Thank you based Nippon.

>> No.7355874

>>7351053
>Kiss
>Gene Simmons took his look from Kabuki theater
>Kabuki preceded KISS
Gomen Nasai Japan-san.

>> No.7356046

>>7355614
Are you implying only Europeans can be real Americans you racist fucking bigot?