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7340858 No.7340858 [Reply] [Original]

How is it so much better than 1 or 2?

>> No.7340872

I didn't realize you were such a big fan of switch mazes and inescapable death traps.

>> No.7340875

>>7340858
Its good. I liked it more than doom 2 because I could actually bring myself to finish it. The only thing I didn't like about it was the "what the fuck did this switch just do" syndrome in most of the levels.

>> No.7340901

>>7340858
I wouldn't say it's better, it's just a really good set of maps with a nice scripting system. I do prefer it over Doom II, but it only succeeds because of D2's experimentation.

>> No.7340910

apples and oranges, it's an entirely distinct and stand alone game

>> No.7340953

>>7340858
I enjoyed my first playthrough, my second not nearly as much, and I'm currently on my third and hating every second of it. in fact, I even uninstalled it because it's just so boring.

>> No.7340974

>>7340953
Uninstalled?

>> No.7340980

>>7340953
im confused, you don't install doom 1, 2 or 64
what the fuck did you play?

>> No.7340983

>>7340974
Yeah, you know, from the N64 SSD.

>> No.7341030

>>7340980
>>7340974

doom 64 on steam. stop being facetious

>> No.7341056

>>7341030
I didn't even know that was a thing, I don't use steam. I pirate and emulate. Thanks for clearing it up and was genuinely confused.

>> No.7341061

>be me
>(see above)
>absolutely (ABSO-LUTELY, for any Tim and Eric fans) loved DOOM 64 back in the day
>haven't played it since it was relative courant
>plug it into my Nintendo 64
>Ah_shit_here_we_go_again.jpeg
>game is super dark
>like darker than the Trump era dark
>the brightness slider, they do NAHTHING
>crank up brightness on my CRT
>now I can kinda see but it looks washed out
>play a bit
>ok this is some rip 'n tear fun
>double barrel chainsaw....? Yaaaas!
>random crushing ceiling ACTIVATE
>ok this is some rip 'n tear dumb
Welp, guess this one is another one for that bespectacled "into the trash it goes" guy

>> No.7341084

The level design you guys are describing actually sounds exactly like Hexen's problems. Strong gameplay foundation confounded by switch-hunting and having to search for what effect hitting a switch had.

It's rough that they apparently didn't learn anything in the intervening time.

>> No.7341257

>>7341084
>activate switch
>hear "whoomp" somewhere in the distance
>switch immediately deactivates
Switch effect hunting is bad enough, but timed switch effect hunting is just agony.

>> No.7341360

>>7340858
It seriously fucking isn't, you retarded hipster shit. Not even with K+M controls.

>> No.7341368

Definitely better than two, at least.

>> No.7341371

>>7340858
>>7341030
>it's the best!
>b..but only if you put it on pc
then it's not good you dumb fucks

>> No.7341457

>>7340858
A T M O S P H E R E

>> No.7341569

>>7340858
Doom 64 was made by a professional team with a cohesive art direction, music created to flow with that art direction, and people familiar with Doom's tools trying to go beyond what Doom did. Doom and Doom II were somewhat rushed, somewhat cobbled together games. Assets in Doom came from all over. Claymation, toys, etc.

>> No.7341592

>>7341061
This is the faggiest post I've ever read on this site

>> No.7341678

>>7341061
>darker than the trump era
k y s


we will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism


turn off your tv idiot

>> No.7341698

>>7340858
>How is it so much better than 1 or 2?
Because it's on a console, not a PC. And we can all agree, now that the dust has settled, that PC games suck.

>> No.7341702

Doom 64 is very slow

>> No.7341829
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7341829

>>7340858
Superior version incoming. D64 stole this game's assets and sound.

>> No.7341849

>>7341061
My dude. Really. Some really assclown-tier traps aside, the map design is rather "fair and square".
>>7341678
>this salty about orangedudegone (forever)

>> No.7341885

>>7341030
>not using a source port

>> No.7341918

>>7341371
That's stupid

>>7341084
It's nothing like Hexen

>> No.7341921

>>7340858
Doom 64 is good. But I can't help but feel it would've been better if it also had Chaingunners, Revenants, and Arch-viles.

>> No.7341925

>>7340858
No

>> No.7341931

>>7341829
Not even close. Doom PS1 using the old Doom artstyle with the new sound effects and music don't match at all. Meanwhile Doom 64 was built from the ground up to match the new sound effects/music. Doom PS1 also isn't a brand new game so there's no comparison.

>stole assets / music
Where? Doom PS1 uses Doom 1/2's assets, Doom 64's assets are remade from the ground up. PS1 and 64 have two completely different soundtracks, sharing only the title song, but more importantly, Aubrey Hodges was the composer for both games.

>> No.7341953

>>7341931
The colored lighting also comes from PS1 Doom.

>PS1 and 64 have two completely different soundtracks
No. They do share several tracks, they sound differently due to different sound fonts. Due to the CD format, PS1's track have higher quality, and they're really all songs, while D64 have some that are just background sounds. Generally, Doom 64 sounds more evil and menacing, while PSX Doom sounds more sad and depressing.

Here's a comparison. It's clearly the same track, despite sounding differently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leUcIpcMZRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPgaZmXMBE

>> No.7341978

>>7340858
it was more horror themed, this one actually makes the jump to Doom 3 make a lot more sense because thats the tone they were going for with this one already

>> No.7342680

>>7341061
Why the fuck do you talk like that

>> No.7342703

It was trash on the N64. The only way it's playable is if you use the sourceport/hack and ripped WAD from the ROM or the official re-release because you have a real goddamn mouse and keyboard controller, not some fucking imprecise abomination made for baby hands.
Doom 1/2/Final is still better, but 64 is still very good if played properly. And it's the last good Doom. 3 is utter laughable trash and NuDoom and NuDoom: The Sequel should be fucking deleted from this fucking shitty earth.

>> No.7342731

>>7340858
..... It's not. Who the fuck said it was? Honestly they made the game so dark and empty it's kind of awful.

>> No.7342751

>me and brother rent this game
>turn the sound off
>blast Funkytown on repeat
>now the game is bonkers

Good shit

>> No.7342868

>>7340858
It's.... Okay. The SSG is definitely a bit more powerful because though it dies the same damage, it has even less frames for its reload than the standard DooM II ssg so the DooM 64 SSG has a higher rate of fire.

Plasma Rifle fires slower for the same damage per shot as the original.

BFG tracer origin point works differently and often produces less damage than the older BFG despite having the same damage output across the board.

Unmaker makes all power weapons besides rockets obsolete.

>> No.7342873

>>7342703
>NuDoom
Found the tranny, guys. "GAMES ARENT ALLOWED TO EXPERIMENT, GROW AND EVOLVE. ANYONE THAT DOSAGREES WITH MY OPINION IS WRONG."

>> No.7342919

>>7340858
It's better than 2 but I wouldnt say 1.

>> No.7343290

>>7341678
Trump lost

>> No.7345456

Bump

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7345470

>>7343290
big tech has to cover for your senile aristocrat, retarded american

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7345473

>>7343290

>> No.7345485

>>7341368
How?

>> No.7345493

>>7341885
doom 64 on steam is literally just a commercially sold Doom 64 EX, aka the doom 64 source port

>> No.7345543

>>7340858
It isn't.
I remember buying it, and hating it.
I ended up swapping it for Mario Kart 64.

>> No.7345606

>>7345470
Trump lost

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7345608

>>7345606

>> No.7346437

>>7341678
Take your meds

>> No.7346527
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7346527

>grow up with this on N64
>play it on PC now
>never save mid-level because I couldn't in the original

>> No.7346541

>>7345606
indeed

>> No.7348180

>>7342680
Fluoride and xenestrogens in the water.

>> No.7348182

>>7340858
It isn't revisionist e-celeb worshipping shit stain.

>> No.7348183

>>7342873
No, games aren't allowed to be shitty storytrash with bad gameplay.
Fucking kids.

>> No.7348189

>>7341678
You're just as retarded as he is.

>> No.7348194

>>7342873
Trannys unironically love nudoom

>> No.7348207

>>7342873
Doom 2016 was ok, good /mu/ and huge guts, although it pointed consoomers in Doom's direction and planted the seeds for the story weirdness.
Eternal... nah. Get off my lawn.

>> No.7348272

Doom 1 is missing the bestiary/SSG and Doom 2 is missing the decent maps

>> No.7348284

It has a very good soundtrack.

>> No.7348424

no revenants in the game is rough. i can live without viles tho and fuck chaingunners

>> No.7348478

>>7348183
>bad gameplay
30 more years of colourful key hunting would be much better. Take your meds, grampa, it's time to sleep

>> No.7348920

>>7340858
Because you just discovered it so it feel fresh so far.

>> No.7348948

>>7340858
It is not.

>> No.7349337

Why is it so dark? Like the first level is bad, and then in the second level things are so dark I can't see what the fuck is going on. I have to crank up the brightness on my TV (the brightness option is a joke) relative to any other N64 game just to avoid getting raped by enemies i can't even see. Level three looks fine, though.

>> No.7351001

Why did they make cacodemons look exactly like Doom 1&2 pain elementals??

>> No.7351031

>>7340858
It's not?

>> No.7351036

>>7343290
Hedgefunds lost, globey

>> No.7351040

>>7345606
Hillary lost

>> No.7351165

>>7351040
Biden won

>> No.7351585

>>7340953
enjoying then coming to dislike a game after subsequent playthroughs is rare, but it happens. why did you change your opinion on doom 64?

>> No.7352089

>>7341885
I'm not a fan of using trannyware, customization and modding attracts trannies, source-ports allows customization and modding, therefore source-ports are trannyware.

>> No.7352094

>>7352089
>being this retarded

>> No.7352114

>>7352089
>cant have it
>screams he never wanted it anyway
this is how I know you're a console shitter

>> No.7352128

>>7352094
ZDoom developer totally isn't a tranny himself.
Doom communities totally hasn't always been tranny havens.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that Doom64 source-port have ZDoom trannyism within it. The original developer liked jDoom more so I will give him that, only the most undervalued developer from the Doom forums and I wonder why.

>> No.7352138

>>7352114
You guessed wrong, I have been watching the Doom community for long enough to scratch off the "nice guys" mask, there is an absurd amount of double standards in there that would make sjws blush, a shame I never bothered to document everything.

>> No.7352178

>>7352089
what the fuck are you talking about? turn off your computer for 5 minutes

>> No.7352208

>>7352178
tranny hands wrote this

>> No.7352232

>>7349337
>Why is it so dark?
Game was developed in a room with no windows, on CRTs. They weren't aware there might be a brightness issue until QA told them.

>> No.7352263

>>7352232
you know, I can actually believe that is the reason, I don't even think you're joking

>> No.7353643

>>7341061
t. Fag