The original xbox's duke controller is better than the gamecube controller

[Anonymous No.7314694]

[Anonymous No.7314703]

>>7314694
I was so used to the duke by the time the newer S controller came out that I refused to use it. I loved the 360 controller though.

[Anonymous No.7314708]

>>7314694

[Anonymous No.7314796]

>>7314708
Is this the hyperkin xbone shit? You're telling me they didn't even bother adding the fucking logo to their $60 controller?

[Anonymous No.7314798]

Everything is better than the shitcube controller

[Anonymous No.7314814]

>>7314796
It's a little screen that plays the Xbox startup while you turn it on, then just rests on the logo.

[Anonymous No.7314828]

>>7314814
they couldn't done some cool shit with that screen instead. Like games could utilize it.

[Anonymous No.7314845]

>>7314814
>>7314828
Indeed, they couldn't have turned it into like a VMU or something?

[Anonymous No.7315023]

>>7314694
Just not comfortable, it's like a bad dreamcast controller if you want to describe it simply

S is still one my favorite controllers and I don't think they should've done away with the fit they had for the 360

[Anonymous No.7315037]

>>7314694
Duke controller sucked. Was too bulky, Black and white felt out of place and its dpad was shit.

[Anonymous No.7315050]

>>7314828
No one would would ever take the time to have their game utilize a niche 3rd party controller. They could’ve let you display a clock or some other kind of animations though

[Anonymous No.7315053]

>>7315023
>S is still one my favorite controllers
Also was flawed. Start, select, black and white buttons were all poorly placed.

[Anonymous No.7315076]

These controllers have 1 total merit and it's having 6 face buttons.

[Anonymous No.7315092]

>>7315076
I've been sending messages to a number of handheld emulator companies begging to put out a system that has them and the few that have skimp elsewhere on the controller parts such as not giving shoulder and trigger buttons for instance. I yearn for a day to see my dream handheld made...

[Anonymous No.7315257]

>>7314694
The duke was made for big strong masculine men. Beta male cucks can't handle the girth of the Duke controller.

[Anonymous No.7315258]

>>7314694
>shit black and white button placement
>Dpad feels like it melted
>ABXY awkwardly placed

[Anonymous No.7315271]

>>7314694
The Gamecube controller's face button layout is amazingly comfy, probably the best of any controller I've ever used. and I love the octagonal casing for the analog stick, makes lining up jumps or using precise directions in fighting games easy.

Beyond that though I can't stand it. The build quality is fucking terrible, we must have gone through at least 5 controllers during the system's lifetime in my house and we only have 2 left that are functional (though of course in poor condition).
The shoulder buttons feel like absolute shit, you can feel them scraping across the plastic as you push them in. Hell you can even hear it.
The lack of a second left bumper or the ability to click the sticks in made what few multiplats that got brought over inferior in control setup.

[Anonymous No.7315274]

>>7315271
oh, forgot to mention, the D-Pad on the Gamecube controller is the worst of all time. Chinese bootleg consoles have better feeling D-Pads. I've played Tiger LCD games that have better D-Pads.

[Anonymous No.7315276]

>>7314828
>>7314845
WiiU literally did this and flopped

[Anonymous No.7315298]

>>7315276
The Wii U had the worst library of any Nintendo system barring the CD-I, Virtual Boy, and E-Reader

What very few decent games (you can almost count them on one hand) it had have all been ported to the Switch aside from Kirby Rainbow Curse

[Anonymous No.7315305]

The duke controller is good for adult men. I thought it was big when I was 13 but now it feels to be the perfect size. The modern xbox and playstation controllers seem to be a smidge too small.

[Anonymous No.7315307]

>>7315092
You basically want a nintendo switch with two more buttons.

[Anonymous No.7315542]

>>7314694
Better than the PS2 controller too. Godlike size for real men.

[Anonymous No.7315551]

i remember before the OGbox came out, Microsquanch was going around to a bunch of state fairs with big demo set ups and thats where I first got to try the system out. the Duke was too meaty for my little baby hands, so by the time I got the system, they started bundling them with the smaller controller and I really liked it. Cut to about a decade later and I am now a big boy and I decide to pick up a Duke. And god damn, I actually fucking love it now that I can properly hold it. One of my favorite controllers actually. Reminds me a lot of the Dreamcast, but better.

[Anonymous No.7315561]

>>7315298
Wrong. Wii U still has a stronger library than N64.

Lets compare fighting games. Wii U had Tekken Tag. N64 had....Biofreaks.

[Anonymous No.7315897]

>>7314694
No, no it isn't. In fact, Monkey Ball Deluxe is actually not the best version that generation of a Monkeyball game because the Gamecube's analog sticks were more precise, but nice Microshill post though.

[Anonymous No.7315902]

>>7315561
>Caring about fighting games

[Anonymous No.7315980]

>>7315561
there are at least 7 games on the N64 that I would consider among the absolute greatest of all time and even the best in their entire genre. And the amount of games I enjoyed is much more than I can count on two hands.

There are zero of these on Wii U. When your best games were a fucking Zelda Dynasty Warriors and a fucking New Super Mario Bros game, you fucked up.

[Anonymous No.7316023]

Pretty sure I never touched a Duke, I only remember holding onto an S whenever I would play Tenchu. The Hyperkin controller should've been the S, not the fucking Duke.

[Anonymous No.7316083]

>>7314694
Well yeah it has two good analogs and a equivalent of the missing shoulder button the GC lacks.

[Anonymous No.7316179]

Xbox Controller S > Dualshock 2 > Gamecube controller > Dreamcast controller > The Duke

[Anonymous No.7316189]

>>7316179
Nah the placement of the B/W buttons is atrocious ruining the experience in many a game that used four shoulder buttons(MGS comes to mind)

[Anonymous No.7316249]

>>7316189
why the fuck would you be playing MGS on inferior gaijin xbox instead of grorious master PS2

[Anonymous No.7316643]

It's only problem is the inset of the black/white. If they were raised like 3 or 4mm more, it would be perfect for my sasquatch fingers.

[Anonymous No.7317517]

>>7314694
The S's white/black button placement is worse, but otherwise it's a better controller.
GCN's c-stick should have been a regular thumbstick. The Wavebird's wireless being so good is tough to properly appreciate now, with so many other good wireless controllers happening since.
I'd rather use either Xbox controller over the GCN.

[Anonymous No.7317845]

>>7315902
Okay, lets compare Metroid style games and FPS on both systems. Wii U has Axiom Verge. N64 has.....nothing. Wii U has Black Ops 2 while N64 has Goldeneye.
>>7315980
Let me guess your 7 favourite are all Zelda and Mario titles? When comparing both systems it's obvious N64 is missing a lot.

[Anonymous No.7317956]

>>7315258
You forgot two more issues about it
>Face buttons are so curved that makes pressing them uncomfortable
>Right analog's concave is smaller for no good reason, making it easy to slip your thumb off of it specially if your hands are sweating

[Anonymous No.7317992]

>>7317956
>Face buttons are so curved that makes pressing them uncomfortable

This is the real greatest offense of the Duke and Xbox controllers in general. It would be nice if the Duke had bumpers as well. Playing recently through games that demand you to hold down the right triggee nearly the whole time (driving in Burnout 3, running in The Warriors) my finger was starting to get tired. But I admit the Duke shape actually is really comfortable.

[Anonymous No.7318017]

>>7317845
>Perfect Dark
>Ocarina of Time
>Starfox 64
>F-Zero X
>Mario Party 2
>Pokemon Puzzle League
>Virtual Pro Wrestling 2
These are masterpieces that I still play at least once or twice a year and there are many more games that I either love or at least like.
The Wii U has fucking nothing in comparison. I own almost the entire exclusive library and there is not a single invdividual game that I thought "this system is worth owning for this." It is the first game system I ever owned that I have buyer's remorse over, and it's the first system I've ever owned that became a dust collector during its actual lifespan.

[Anonymous No.7318050]

>>7318017
>These are masterpieces
>Starts list off with Perfect Dark
Throw in Black Ops 2 then Perfect Dark and tell me which one is the better FPS.
>Pokemon Puzzle League
>The Wii U has fucking nothing in comparison.
Puyo Puyo Tetris is on the Wii U. Your nostalgia goggles are blinding you.

[Anonymous No.7318054]

>>7318050
If you honestly don't think Perfect Dark is one of the best FPS ever made you're either some multiplayer only retard or a deluded Quake boomer. Perfect Dark's campaign design and overall level of content far exceeds most other games in the genre, the only flaws it has are related to the hardware it's stuck on rather than the design of the game itself.

Puyo Puyo Tetris isn't as good as Pokemon Puzzle League and isn't exclusive either. Pokemon Puzzle League remains to this day the best version of Tetris Attack/Panel De Pon ever released. Or at least tied with the Japanese only Gamecube Panel de Pon that's just a port of Pokemon.

[Anonymous No.7320359]

>>7314694
The only ones who hate this controller are Beta-Males with extremely small hands.

[Anonymous No.7322435]

>>7315307
I actually tried modeling it on the RG350, anon...

[Anonymous No.7322887]

>>7315092
Why do you need six face buttons AND four shoulder buttons? Pick a lane, bub.

[Anonymous No.7323276]

>>7322887

[Anonymous No.7323284]

>>7314694
Hhmmmm nope.

[Anonymous No.7323290]

>>7314828
leave those faggot ideas for those shits at nintendo

[Anonymous No.7323347]

>>7322887
>Why do you need six face buttons AND four shoulder buttons?
Technically it would be two shoulder and two trigger buttons but the reason why is that it would make mapping keys easier. Six face buttons would work great for Genesis while the two triggers and two shoulders would be great for PS1 games.

[Anonymous No.7323440]

>>7316249
because it runs better on the xbox and has extra content you based cope retard

[Anonymous No.7325431]

>>7323347
I think it'd be easier to just have dedicated devices with preferred layouts for certain systems rather than wait for one thing that does it all. I do wish six-button was more standard though, that's the main reason I got the Pi Boy

[Anonymous No.7325587]

>>7314703

"Let's copy the Sega Dreamcast pad. Remove the VMU window and replacce it with a giant X logo. Make it bigger in size, add a second analog stick. We forgot to add two more buttons, so we crammed some on top of the diamond face buttons: I don't really hate the controller. I kind of like the big size. But needed some refinement. At least it met the recommended button requirement of that gen.

[Anonymous No.7325598]

>>7314703

> "Let's copy the Sega Dreamcast pad. Remove the VMU window and replace it with a giant X logo. Make it bigger in size, add a second analog stick. We forgot to add two more buttons, so we crammed some on top of the diamond face buttons."

I don't even hate the controller. I kind of like the big size. But needed some refinement. At least it met the recommended button requirement of that gen.

[Anonymous No.7325810]

>>7323440
Is the xbox version really better? I'm on the fence on which version of MGS 2 & 3 to get.

[Anonymous No.7325873]

>>7323440
It literally doesn't lmao

[Anonymous No.7325896]

>>7315023
>>7315037
>>7315076
>>7315258
>>7315897
>>7316179
>>7323284
Samefag

[Anonymous No.7325924]

>>7323440
Neither of those things are true, but OK!
>>7325810
Substance and Subsistence on PS2
>>7325896
I'm >>7316179 and none of those other anons are me, sorry

[Anonymous No.7325937]

>I'm >>7316179 and none of those other anons are me, sorry

[Anonymous No.7326097]

>>7325896
>samefag
Face facts, Duke was flawed. Why else would they release S controller.

[Anonymous No.7326145]

>Face facts, Duke was flawed. Why else would they release S controller.

[Anonymous No.7326198]

>>7315298
Explain then why so many games on the Switch are Wii U ports with some extra content.

[Anonymous No.7326226]

based duke, soibois can't handle the size

[Anonymous No.7328137]

>>7315298
>the NES/SNES/N64 has the worst library of any Nintendo system. What very few decent games it had have already been ported to Wii/Wii U/Switch
>the PS2/PS3 has the worst library of any Sony system. What very few decent games it had have already been ported to PS4/PS5
>the MD/Genesis has the worst library of any Sega system. What very few decent games it had have already been ported to Wii/Wii U/Switch/PS3/PS4/360/XBONE
This is you by the way.

[Anonymous No.7328221]

I never liked the duke, especially as a kid. Did they design a controller specifically to only fit in the hands of a fatass or something? Even going back to the Type S after being used to the 360 felt like I had an entire hamburger in my hands while playing Halo.

[Anonymous No.7328283]

>>7328137
A good chunk of those systems were worth owning at the time of release because their games were actually amazing and their libraries were generally really good. If you didn't have these systems at the time they were current you were missing out.

There was no benefit to buying a Wii U. You weren't missing out on anything. There was no must-have game that convinced you the system was worth it. No Ocarina level masterpiece. No game that shifted the paradigm or raised the bar and set a new standard. The best games on it were just "pretty good." Again, when Zelda Dynasty Warriors is your standout title that's pathetic.

[Anonymous No.7328308]

>>7314694
Yes. Nintendo wanted to make a console that was all about the games but chose to use a controller that did not have as many inputs as the already wildly successful PS2. Along with the tiny dvds, this made porting many games over from the consoles not worth it. The gamecube as a whole was a mess. While the N64 was significantly different from the PS1 hardware wise, the gamecube was just a slightly stronger PS2 with less games and no dvd playback.

[Anonymous No.7328312]

>>7323276
Saturn had six face buttons and 2 shoulder buttons

[Anonymous No.7328405]

>>7325873
>>7323440
it runs better on the xbox. it looks much better as well because the xbox has antialiasing. ps2 might as well been a ps1.
comes with a lot of extra content on the xbox version.

[Anonymous No.7328417]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krH8d3spXbY

fools

[Anonymous No.7328456]

>>7328417
Without pressure sensitive buttons the PS2 MGS games are unplayable

[Anonymous No.7328664]

>>7314694
The original Xbox is a disgrace in every shape and form

[Anonymous No.7328680]

>>7328456
I'm an MGS fag and have gotten Big Boss rank on 2, I tried playing the game on OG xbox and the lack of trigger buttons makes it literally unplayable.

[Anonymous No.7328684]

>>7316179
t. Small handed incel

[Anonymous No.7330049]

>>7328405
It's lacking effects and runs like shit in outdoor areas. The single advantage it has is 480p.
Stop being a stupid faggot.

[Anonymous No.7330113]

>>7314694
no
the gamecube analog stick was way too good
even only having one of them

the duke is the only controller that actually fits in my hands tho
those d-pads are fucking trash imo

[Anonymous No.7330153]

>>7328664
its honestly a surprisingly effective little 8/16bit emu
even if you dont care for that gen at all kinda feel ya desu it was a breeze to softmod, and a great little piece of hardware to leave down in your living room so you and your buddies could play some /vr/

[Anonymous No.7330275]

>>7328664
>The original Xbox is a disgrace in every shape and form
lmao

[Anonymous No.7330334]

>>7315053
Those flaws are worth tolerating for how ergonomic it is when you aren't using those buttons.

[Anonymous No.7332732]

>>7314694
Not if you have small jap hands

[Anonymous No.7332735]

>>7315298
Wii U has a pretty good library failed console or not

including multiplats

[Anonymous No.7333139]

>>7328664
>amazing emulator and multimedia platform
>some pretty good action games, a lot of scrapped dreamcast games end up on it
>controller can also function as a cluedo murder weapon

[Anonymous No.7334024]

>>7328456
ive beaten it plenty of times i never even knew anything was "missing".

>>7330049
looks better in every area of the game. Literally every area. There is rain slowdown and that is the only "outdoor" area with slowdown. nice reach and cherrypick. The magic of the xbox version is literally every mundane room in the game looks 20 times as good because everything has crisp edges and proper textures.

[Anonymous No.7334082]

>>7325937
>>7326145
>wojak
Gas yourself.

[Anonymous No.7335540]

>>7314694
I hated the fucking cable

[Anonymous No.7337093]

Yeah nah. V.2 was the GOAT. Better than Dualshock

[Anonymous No.7338976]

>>7328680
I know the og xbox controller (both duke and s) have pressure sensitive buttons
did they not use them on this game?

[Anonymous No.7339009]

>>7317517
>>7316189
>>7315053
>can always press at least 3 buttons without having to lift your thumb on the S controller
>can press start/select while also not moving your finger from the Left stick
I bet you never even had an S controller in your nads. An updated wireless S controller+2 extra bumpers would be the GOAT controller. Then add the Elite's paddles for the PRO version.

[Anonymous No.7339024]

>>7338976
They did. That faggot probably never played the game on Xbox.

[Anonymous No.7339087]

>>7314694
i love this controller so much, wish they would resell it in black again, all i can find is that shitty transparent green version from hyperkin. Would also love a wireless version too and no flashy screen, but that's never happening.

[Anonymous No.7339141]

>>7335540
cable was based

[Anonymous No.7339249]

>>7314694
Not retro.
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.7341364]

>>7339249

[Anonymous No.7342886]

>>7314694
Hold up chief

[Anonymous No.7342904]

>>7314694
Maybe if you're black.

[Anonymous No.7344290]

>>7314694
not exactly a high bar
yes it is

the gamecube controller only has 1 true stick in an age of games that call for 2. even its main stick in compromised in that it has these idiotic notches around the edges.
>noooo this ackshually is an advantage for games with free movement because i lack fine motor skills!
cool, i don't.
other than that it has a tiny dpad and has 4 buttons less than xbox/ps2.

>>7335540
this is valid though. the cable is fucking terrible. breaks itself over time and is a bitch to repair.

[Anonymous No.7344676]

>>7322887
why wouldn't you want both? 6 face buttons for fighting games, 4 shoulders for driving games.

[Anonymous No.7345903]

>>7344290
It was like it was made of some weird rubber material that bent itself into weird shapes

[Anonymous No.7346890]

>>7328664
tell us where the mean console touched you, anon

[Anonymous No.7346953]

The chunky grips make it nice to hold and the triggers are in a really nice resting spot for your fingers but the layout of the face buttons is fucking terrible.

[Anonymous No.7348103]

>>7328664
seething lamecube fag

[Anonymous No.7349757]

>>7344290
i never had a cable break, i guess you just are retarded or something? the controller wears out if anything from normal use over years of non ape handling.

gamecube controller stick is fine never had a single issue with it. if anything the ps2 controller was the shittiest. the setup is nice but its small and cramped and uncomfortable to play for hours compared to either a gamecube or xbox controller. the entire thing should have been scaled up by 5% or something.