/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7302734]

What made Tekken so popular during 5th gen?

[Anonymous No.7302753]

its focus on the fun factor

[Anonymous No.7302754]

>>7302734
Easy to play, more about juggling than button combos.
Mortal Kombat fell off and was now old and lame.
Street Fighter was fun but Capcom was focusing more on tons of crossovers.
Sexy girls, edgy dudes, only real competitor at the time was Soul Calibur.

[Anonymous No.7302756]

3D fighters were new, few in number and nobody had a Saturn to play Virtua Fighter.

[Anonymous No.7302759]

>>7302734
characters were cool and the game was fun

[Anonymous No.7302790]

Tekken 3 was just that good. Cadual heaven and good competitively. TTT overtook it competitively, but as the console version was late, and looked like ass, it didn't have the casual appeal.

[Anonymous No.7302806]

Also PlayStation. Saturn kinda sucked. But vf2 was a much better game than tekken 2. Tekken 3 was on another level. IMO it's the first actually good 3d fighter.

[Anonymous No.7302820]

p much these >>7302756 >>7302754
tekken was a 3d fighter which was new and trendy at the time. it was more accessible than 2d fighters because no quarter-circles and other "hard" FG inputs, and it had more obvious gameplay that was friendly to casuals, with flashy moves and combos. also, it had good graphics that brought arcade-level experience to home consoles.
it wasn't yet balanced but nobody gave a fuck. it was fun, easy to pick up and had a lot of things to draw people in.
the competition wasn't all that either. there was VF which it was inspired by, but it was only on Sega's consoles and arcade. other IPs didnt measure up, except for Soul series which was from Namco anyway. maybe DoA but it was same but smaller. 2D fighters didn't manage to convert to 3D well (see: SF EX, MK4), and the 2D fighters were hard and weren't as cool as in early 90s anymore.
the niche was clear for Tekken to take, all they had to do was not fuck up. they delivered with T2 and T3 and took it.

[Anonymous No.7302825]

>>7302734
Complete lack of any other good fighting games

[Anonymous No.7302830]

Easy to mash. Plus it was cheaper in the arcades than the far superior looking Virtua Fighter.

[Anonymous No.7302928]

>>7302754
>>7302820
it was about button sequence and choreography rather than reliance on frantic directional inputs.

[Anonymous No.7302937]

>>7302734
Tight gameplay and a lot of content for the time.

[Anonymous No.7303127]

>>7302928
>frantic directional inputs
the zoomer fears the quarters

[Anonymous No.7303142]

it was a casual game aimed at casual players

[Anonymous No.7303162]

>>7302734
>One of the first 3D Fighter
>Easy to play and understand
>good marketing
>Exclusive to the most popular game console

[Anonymous No.7303235]

>>7302754
Soul Calibur was also Namco.

What Samurai Shodown was to Fatal Fury, Soul Calibur was to Tekken.

[Anonymous No.7303246]

>>7302825
this is bait

[Anonymous No.7303521]

>>7302734
It was a super casualized and dumbed down fighting game where button mashing got you wins unlike the other more complex fighters of the time and had a huge extremely aggressive marketing marketing campaign partly funded by Sony. it was pretty much the LoL/Call of Duty of its day.

Casual games sell.

[Anonymous No.7304591]

>>7303521
>button mashing got you wins
I don't understand this, I wasn't even good and I could easily beat anyone under my level like 50 times in a row without exceptions, there wasn't "accidents" and I always felt a difference in skill in casual levels made a huge difference.

[Anonymous No.7304598]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEGymfKWXt0

[Anonymous No.7304646]

>>7302734

- Fighting games were a hot genre for almost a decade
- Tekken was a hot brand name synonymous with PlayStation from day one, and continued to be the flashiest, most accessible fighting series on the most popular console at the time
- The music was ace
- It got tons of advertising
- There was tons of crap on the disc to mess around with and unlock even if you didn't have friends round
- It's great

[Anonymous No.7304667]

>>7302734
its fun and easy to just pick up and play, matches are fast enough that it start to become addictive fast and theres enough complexity there to keep you going if you wanna compete with your friends and one up each other

Is the perfect balance of easy to pick up but hard to master, meanwhile a game like street fighter is hard as balls to pick up and autistically impossible to master.

[Anonymous No.7304679]

>>7304646
It was definitly (until 5) the most aethestic fighter series

[Anonymous No.7304702]

Sega was fucking up its console market hard, so fewer people had access to the better 3D fighter.

Tekken stepped into the opportunity

[Anonymous No.7304728]

>>7304591
soul calibur is way more button mashy, in tekken the difference of skill shows a lot, a match can end in 2 seconds if the other player is a scrub. My best memories with tekken is playing with a friend with almost exact skill as me and matches always being decided by one block or one single connected move different.

[Anonymous No.7304731]

>>7304702

Even if Sega didn't shit the bed with their Saturn launch, VF1 shown running alongside Tekken 1 in stores absolutely sealed the deal in PlayStation's favour. It was simply a much, much more impressive-looking game.

As for VF vs Tekken, I love both, but I feel like Tekken has given me more fun over the years.

[Anonymous No.7305036]

>>7304731

[Anonymous No.7305045]

>>7304731
Tekken always looked like shit, even in the arcade. SEGA No.1

[Anonymous No.7305050]

>>7303246
Name one other good fighting game that had a high-quality release when Tekken 3 was hot

[Anonymous No.7305061]

>>7303521
Button mashing gets you wins in literally any fighting game lol that's all fighting games are, button mashing
Blows my mind how such a shallow genre has so many current releases, it made sense in the arcade days but now its just weird

[Anonymous No.7305159]

>>7303127
Juggling is harder than doing a down-forward motion.

[Anonymous No.7305174]

home....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tahNNOoqiOM

[Anonymous No.7305191]

>>7305050
>high quality release
is not the same as
>complete lack of any other fighting games

DS3, SamSho, X-men vs SF, SFA2, KOF 98, Virtua Fighter 2/3, they were all high quality games, but many suffered on the console versions or were launched on inferior consoles. Couple that with the decline of arcades, and that's why there weren't a lot of successful fighting games beside Tekken at the time.

[Anonymous No.7305196]

>>7305174
namco's music department was just insanely good through like the entire 90's and early 00s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYXJv1kg4bI

[Anonymous No.7305230]

>>7304731
Huh? Tekken 1 released around the time of VF2. Tekken's graphics were pretty subpar for the time.

[Anonymous No.7305318]

>>7302734
Fighting game for brainlets. Plus it was free to play. You only needed a cd blank.

[Anonymous No.7305327]

>>7304731
Tekken 1 looks like shit. With completely fucked up anatomy and animations. Talk about rose tinted crap.

[Anonymous No.7305342]

>>7305196
it was great!

[Anonymous No.7305368]

>>7305196
Can't hold a candle to what SEGA and Taito did in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.7305432]

>>7303127
quarter circle, half circle, one of those followed by an opposite direction thrust, double quarters, double halves, its fucking stupid. each button assigned to a limb is vastly superior. playing the keys to a magnificent instrument is better than swinging around a dick.

[Anonymous No.7305450]

Lei Wulong did it for me. First time I'd seen a Jackie Chan stand in, and the idea of being able to switch styles blew my mind.

[Anonymous No.7305504]

>>7305061
sure kiddo, try playing Street Fighter online and see how far that gets you

[Anonymous No.7305612]

>>7305191
>>high quality release
>is not the same as
>>complete lack of any other fighting games

Which is why I said "complete lack of any other GOOD fighting games" lol you might want to work on your reading comprehension


>DS3, SamSho, X-men vs SF, SFA2, KOF 98, Virtua Fighter 2/3, they were all high quality games, but many suffered on the console versions or were launched on inferior consoles.

Yes, that is indeed my point

[Anonymous No.7305619]

>>7305504
It works pretty well, I've rarely ever lost online in a fighting game and all I do is mash randomly and spam special moves

[Anonymous No.7305658]

>>7305230

Talking about consoles, not the arcades. PlayStation was what cemented Tekken's popularity, and vice versa. As soon as people saw Daytona/VF1 on Saturn next to Ridge Racer/Tekken on PSone, the battle was already over.

[Anonymous No.7305664]

>>7305658
fuck console poorfucks. real gamers buy the arcade boards.

[Anonymous No.7305673]

>>7302734
>1997
>3D fighting games
You had Virtua Fighter and Toshinden to compete with Tekken 3, of course Tekken would take the cake.
By that time there were ZERO good 3D fighting games.
Heck, Tekken 7 might still be the best 3D fighting game available to this day. Soul Calibur series is good though.

[Anonymous No.7305692]

>>7305664

Tekken is still relevant while VF and DOA have languished because of the massive domestic foothold it gained during the '90s, this can't be contested. Even Soul Calibur maintains a limp dick presence because it started on PlayStation.

[Anonymous No.7305713]

>>7305692
>Tekken is still relevant
lol

[Anonymous No.7305727]

>>7305713
You're kind of retarded if you think Tekken 7 isn't relevant
It's the only good fighting game that's currently supported, SFV is shit, MK11 is shit, and everything else is actually irrelevant because it's either shit or nobody plays it

[Anonymous No.7305740]

>>7305612
I obviously forgot to put "Good" in there you complete buffalo. And your point is inconsistent at best. In your first post you state that Tekken is better than all fighting games at the time and in the second you say it's about the release of the game. Make up your mind ffs.

There were other very good fighting games at that time. Many much better than Tekken 3. They were however inferior on the PS1, had full fledged ports on more obscure systems, or were only accessible in arcades which were declining in popularity.

>Yes, that is indeed my point
You have yet to state any of that retard.

[Anonymous No.7305746]

Segatard cope

[Anonymous No.7305748]

>>7305673
>By that time there were ZERO good 3D fighting games.
>Heck, Tekken 7 might still be the best 3D fighting game available to this day.

lmao, VF5 is still the greatest 3D fighter, any actual competitive player will tell you the same. Tekken is flashier and trendier, which is why it appeals to normalfags but mechanically it's still garbage.

SB/SC was always the better Namco fighter too

[Anonymous No.7305783]

>>7305673
This is what retarded casuals actually believe

[Anonymous No.7305785]

>>7305727
T7 is utter shit and both SFV and MK11 are far better than it, you clearly dont play fighting games.

[Anonymous No.7305793]

>>7305740
>I obviously forgot to put "Good" in there
You didn't forget lol you missed it entirely and tried to argue against a point literally no one was making
>They were however inferior on the PS1, had full fledged ports on more obscure systems, or were only accessible in arcades which were declining in popularity.
Lmfao YES DUMBASS THAT IS INDEED THE POINT

[Anonymous No.7305795]

>>7305727
SFV, MK11 and DBZ are all fairly good games. Doesn't mean that Tekken isn't the biggest fighter of this generation, but that's mostly due to Capcom's incompetence these past few years.

However, all fighters are pretty much dead, Tekken included. Saying Tekken is the biggest fighter is like winning a gold medal in the Paralympics

[Anonymous No.7305797]

>>7305785
Oh so you're just a contrarian faggot who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about lol
Carry on then

[Anonymous No.7305810]

>>7305795
>SFV, MK11 and DBZ are all fairly good games
SFV is absolute dogshit
MK11 is pretty bad but has mass casual appeal so it sold well
DBFZ has been dead since the end of its first year because it's an insanely shallow game at intermediate level and above. Looks super pretty and has a monster IP tho so it sold

[Anonymous No.7305812]

>>7305797
No, you are just a casual retard who knows jack shit about fighting games.

[Anonymous No.7305813]

>>7305793
>You didn't forget lol you missed it entirely and tried to argue against a point literally no one was making
>DS3, SamSho, X-men vs SF, SFA2, KOF 98, Virtua Fighter 2/3, they were all high quality games
>high quality
Would I Include those 2 words if I didn't read "good" you mentally impaired mouthbreather?

>>I obviously forgot to put "Good" in there
>You didn't forget lol you missed it entirely and tried to argue against a point literally no one was making
>Lmfao YES DUMBASS THAT IS INDEED THE POINT
So why are those words coming out of my mouth and not yours, DUMBASS???? I am the one that pointed this shit out you literally just said QUOTE

>Complete lack of any other good fighting games
Nothing about platforms, nothing about mentioning other games, you just said that Tekken 3 was the only good fighting game at the time, which it's not you fucking manchild.

If you're so smart and I'm so dumb, why are you not the one that elaborates on what he means instead of stealing someone else's arguments as yours?

[Anonymous No.7305818]

Seganiggers seething

[Anonymous No.7305821]

The only people who think tekken is a good fighting game are the turbo casuals who dont know the first thing about fighting games, this goes tenfold for bottom of the barrel garbage like tekken 3.

[Anonymous No.7305825]

>>7305812
Says the dude unironically trying to claim SFV is good lmfao

[Anonymous No.7305827]

Fighting games are for retards.

[Anonymous No.7305828]

tekken was always a low effot casual cashgrab and nothing more.

[Anonymous No.7305834]

>>7305825
Says the dude unironically trying to claim tekken 7 is good lmfao

[Anonymous No.7305838]

>>7305813
Lol seethe harder faggot

[Anonymous No.7305841]

Reminder that even the games developer says tekken is a casual button masher
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/06/03/harada-talks-tekken-difficulty-and-more/

[Anonymous No.7305853]

>>7305810
tekken is absolute dogshit

[Anonymous No.7305858]

>>7305810
>SFV is absolute dogshit
Subjective. I don't like it and it is clearly a cash grab, but it's still a pretty ok game.
>MK11 is pretty bad but has mass casual appeal so it sold well
That's all of Mortal Kombat, the entire franchise.
>DBFZ has been dead since the end of its first year
It had more than 7k players last week, eclipsing Tekken. It's made by ASW so I doubt it's a shallow game.

Tekken is my favourite out of all of those, but that's not saying much.

[Anonymous No.7305859]

>>7305727
Tekken 7 is a predictable follow-up to a series that's never aimed particularly high, it may please casual gamers for a day or two but the stagnant ongoing series is definitely in the second tier of fighters way below Capcom or NetherRealm Studios games, and it's seriously getting old and tired. The lack of depth and subtlety and the emphasis on the offensive, rather than the defensive, puts this squarely two notches below the best in the genre, the "who-can-get-their-super-move-off-first" gameplay leaves much to be desired from a serious fighting game player. Like the prequels, Tekken 7 is geared towards casual gamers and anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, DoA and MK games have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their rage move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don't even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it's more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!

If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.

[Anonymous No.7305861]

Autism

[Anonymous No.7305862]

>>7305810
>MK11 is pretty bad but has mass casual appeal so it sold well
Your thinking of tekken

[Anonymous No.7305863]

>>7305838
Nice counterargument nigger

[Anonymous No.7305871]

imagine being so bad at fighting games you think fucking tekken was good LMAO

[Anonymous No.7305878]

>>7305858
>Subjective. I don't like it and it is clearly a cash grab, but it's still a pretty ok game.
No, it's dogshit
>That's all of Mortal Kombat, the entire franchise.
Then why did you say it was good lol
>It's made by ASW so I doubt it's a shallow game
Oh so you don't even know what you're talking about
It's shallow as fuck, like zero neutral, identical combo routes for most of the cast, it's all blockstring pressure and marvel combos. Honestly the most shallow game to ever be an Evo mainstage game
Like if you doubt facts that's just called being wrong anon

[Anonymous No.7305884]

tekken is objective a shit game

[Anonymous No.7305886]

>>7305859
>Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter... have advanced impressively in their latest installments
Lol wut? SFV is straight ass dude
You don't even play fighting games I bet

[Anonymous No.7305889]

>>7305878
>It's shallow as fuck, like zero neutral, identical combo routes for most of the cast
Yeah tekken is a shit game

[Anonymous No.7305901]

tekken has always been regarded as a joke by the FGC

[Anonymous No.7305917]

>>7305821
>>7305828
>>7305853
>>7305862
>>7305871
>>7305884
>>7305889
>>7305901
samefag

[Anonymous No.7305928]

>FGC tourists
time to leave

[Anonymous No.7305936]

>>7305878
>No, it's dogshit
Something about your tone tells me you got completely manhandled when trying it out and now have severe buyers' remorse for spending $60 on a game you get bodied in
>Then why did you say it was good lol
Because all of Mortal Kombat is usually inferior compared to other fighting games but makes up for it in mass appeal. MK11 is a great MK game, but it's a MK game. If you buy it looking for competition, you're retarded, but if you buy it because you like the franchise it's a good entry. That's why I said it is good. You can't compare all games as if they are to meet your criteria only.

>like zero neutral,
That's to be expected out of a game that's all about le epic juggling. You're not playing footsies in a grandiose game like this. It just wouldn't fit the theme
>it's all blockstring pressure and marvel combos.
And that is what DB is about and what many people like. I just don't know where you're coming from.

[Anonymous No.7305950]

>>7305673
>>7305727
>>7305746
>>7305797
>>7305810
>>7305825
>>7305878
>>7305886
>>7305917
samefag

[Anonymous No.7305962]

>>7305936
>Something about your tone tells me you got completely manhandled when trying it out and now have severe buyers' remorse for spending $60 on a game you get bodied in
I was given a copy by a friend who didn't like it and made it to ultra plat in two days before dropping it too lol
You can project whatever faggot nonsense you want into my "tone" but that doesn't change the fact that sfv is dogshit lol
>>Then why did you say it was good lol
>MK11 is a great MK game
It's not even a good MK game lol
>>like zero neutral,
>That's to be expected out of a game that's all about le epic juggling
Marvel has neutral, crosstag has neutral
DBFZ literally has a dedicated "skip neutral" button
You obviously don't know what you're talking about lol
>>it's all blockstring pressure and marvel combos.
>And that is what DB is about and what many people like.
And its a shallow game thanks to those design choices lol. I'd be surprised if there are really "many people" who like being stuck in blockstun for 20 seconds but who knows maybe there are more autists out there than I thought.
>I just don't know where you're coming from.
Lol are you retarded? I told you where I'm coming from

[Anonymous No.7305972]

>>7305936
MK11 is currentlyby far the best fighting game on the market for competitive play, which is more a reflection on the sad state of fighting games than anything else.

[Anonymous No.7305982]

>>7305962
>complains about lack of neutral
>while trying to suck tekkens dick
LOL

[Anonymous No.7306013]

tekken really is a game only played by the most casual of casuals.

[Anonymous No.7306050]

>>7305962
>I was given a copy by a friend who didn't like it and made it to ultra plat in two days before dropping it too lol
>You can project whatever faggot nonsense you want into my "tone" but that doesn't change the fact that sfv is dogshit lol
Lol yeah sure. Thanks for cementing my point

>It's not even a good MK game lol
What is a good MK then lol

>Marvel has neutral, crosstag has neutral
And how does that invalidate my point?

>And its a shallow game thanks to those design choices
Maybe boring, but I don't know how blockstrings are inherently shallow. If they're universal for all matchups, sure. I'm not interested enough in DB to get into specifics, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

>I told you where I'm coming from
That probably wasn't me

[Anonymous No.7306056]

>>7305972
>MK11 is currentlyby far the best fighting game on the market for competitive play,
You've got to make your bait more subtle if you want anyone to take it anon

[Anonymous No.7306059]

>>7302734
The soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPUFtBFP-rM

[Anonymous No.7306062]

>>7306050
>Thanks for cementing my point
I refuted it lol
You are delusional
>>Marvel has neutral, crosstag has neutral
>And how does that invalidate my point?
Holy fuck you're retarded lol
Your point was "don't expect neutral in a juggle-heavy game"
I named a juggle-heavy game and a juggle-heavy franchise of several games all of which have an actual neutral game lol
>>And its a shallow game thanks to those design choices
>Maybe boring, but I don't know how blockstrings are inherently shallow. If they're universal for all matchups, sure
They literally are lol
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about here and it's painfully obvious

[Anonymous No.7306065]

>>7305748

Any actual competitive player will tell you that VF and Tekken are equally great

[Anonymous No.7306067]

>>7305972
Fucking yikes

[Anonymous No.7306069]

>>7303127
Is that..... Is that one combo or 4?

[Anonymous No.7306071]

>>7306056
Not bait, learn how to play fighting games, anon.

[Anonymous No.7306075]

>>7306065
Actual competitive player, tekken is a casual button masher and not even close to the level of VF

[Anonymous No.7306081]

I fucking hate Tekken. Get hit once might as well just put the controller down cus your not getting up for the next 30 seconds and 80% of your healths gone.

[Anonymous No.7306096]

>>7306071
Learn how to troll, anon

[Anonymous No.7306102]

>>7306096
this is bait

[Anonymous No.7306106]

Tekken had that anime with the edgy 90s grunge soundtrack that was better than it had any right to be, which at least among my friends really sold the game

[Anonymous No.7306107]

>>7306081
So like, don't get hit lol
This is a pretty simple case of git gud

[Anonymous No.7306113]

>>7306106
Did it have a random unnecessary shower scene like all the other 90s fighting game anime flicks?

[Anonymous No.7306114]

Tekkens characters had good appeal too. Great and memorable character design. Who could ever forget Paul, Jack, King or Yoshimitsu.

I always felt that this was Segas biggest lacking factor in their games. The generic characters. Look at Fighting Vipers, Last Bronx for example. Barely any really good or memorable designs. Mostly generic tropes and clichés. Few stand out.

Virtua Fighter is no exception. The only people in VF I really remember are the generic kungfu archtype, drunk dude and the blue ninja. And those are straight tropes. I couldn't tell you their names if you gave me a million bucks.

[Anonymous No.7306119]

>>7306113
There is absolutely nothing unecesseary about shower scenes.

[Anonymous No.7306129]

>>7306106
Tekken animu had some of the most disgusting cheap late 90's digital animation I'd ever seen.

[Anonymous No.7306132]

>>7306119
t. coomer

[Anonymous No.7306154]

>>7306062
>I refuted it lol
>You are delusional
Whatever you say big boy

>Your point was "don't expect neutral in a juggle-heavy game"
My point was "Neutral doesn't fit the setting of DBZ" Mr. Kindergarten level reading comprehension.

>They literally are lol
I haven't played DBZ, I'm only going off from what people have said about the game and this is the first time I've heard about universal blockstrings on all characters. Guess I was wrong

>You don't know what the fuck you're talking about here and it's painfully obvious
As you say Mr. "Ultra plat in two days"
Reminds me of the time I got champ 2 in Rocket League after only 6 hours of playing. We're not so different you and I.

[Anonymous No.7306156]

>>7306114
The designs are definitely VF's weak point. I see they were going for the SF style of simple shapes and colors, and instantly readable characters, but SF put a stylistic spin on them that VF missed. Also, never improving the generic cheesy voice lines and phrases, and never bringing the actual story to the front of the games. Narratives and memorable characters really stick with people. The VF anime wasn't bad at all, they should have made that their base for the next games

[Anonymous No.7306158]

>>7306114
>tekken
>memorable character design
LMAO

[Anonymous No.7306164]

>>7306114
tekken has the most generic bootleg characters of any fighting game i have ever seen.

[Anonymous No.7306172]

>>7306158
You don't like Vegeta, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Tiger Mask??

[Anonymous No.7306173]

6th gen being added was a great idea

[Anonymous No.7306178]

>>7306114
Yeah knock off Ken and a gay furry... so memorable!

[Anonymous No.7306180]

>>7306172
Can't forget Paul(nareff)

[Anonymous No.7306184]

>>7306172
>Arnold Schwarzenegger
is that who jack was supposed to be? i thought he was dolph lundgren

[Anonymous No.7306191]

>>7306184
He's American Military Man

[Anonymous No.7306194]

>>7305061
>How to find someone who never play an fighting game against anyone outside of friends

[Anonymous No.7306202]

Here's Sarah Brya... uh, I mean, Nina Williams

[Anonymous No.7306210]

tekkens character designs are so shit and lazy 90% of the cast are just copy paste from other sources, sums up the entire series pretty accurately, shallow uninspired and derivative.

[Anonymous No.7306216]

>>7306194
I've played friends, strangers, online randos, all kinds of people
I rarely lose against any of them when I just mash buttons and spam cheap shit

[Anonymous No.7306226]

stop samefagging nigger

[Anonymous No.7306228]

>>7306210
Yeah they should have done better like Capcom
Who could forget iconic characters like white gi karate man, red gi karate man, American soldier guy, Indian stereotype, and literally the bad guy from Riki-Oh copy-pasted

[Anonymous No.7306237]

>>7306228
>tekkucks mad that Capcom were the first to codify the archetypes that are still being copied today

[Anonymous No.7306245]

>>7306228
Ryu is one of the most iconic video game characters of all time, how deluded are you to think the literal whos of tekken were anywhere close to being on Ryu's level, you would straight up have to be brain damaged.

[Anonymous No.7306250]

>>7306237
>first

[Anonymous No.7306258]

>>7306245
Which one is Ryu again? He's the eye patch guy right?

[Anonymous No.7306260]

>>7306258
imagine trying to pretend you dont know who Ryu was.

LMAO

[Anonymous No.7306273]

>>7306260
I don't play fighting games that much, they're good for like ten minutes with a friend but they don't have any real depth so they get old quick
Is he the karate guy? Aren't there like three or four of them like the ninjas in mortal kombat

[Anonymous No.7306279]

>>7306237
give it up dude, the fighter scene is so insular most people who are fans of the genre play several fighters and don't give a shit about corporate rivalries. Literally no one cares, same people play tekken, SF or whatever other game.

Maybe smash players are the exception, they tend to be their own thing and stay far removed from the fighting game scene

[Anonymous No.7306280]

>>7306228
The thing about Street Fighter 2 is that it was one of the first big fighting games. So yes the original cast are all mostly clichés or stereotypes but are memorable becuase they still had good designs. If you had 100 Indians from videogames lined up you could pick out Dhalsim in a heartbeat. If you lined up 100 videogame sumo wrestlers you could pick out Honda due to his face paint and attire. If you lined up 100,000 generic military men you could pick out Guile. You know why.

Regardless, Street Fighters designs got more varied and unique as the series went on.

[Anonymous No.7306282]

>>7306273
>>7306258
>Lol are you talkin about that "Pokey-Mans" thing?
>I don't know anything about it, what's a Peekalu or Chookaboo, or whatever? lol

This is you right now

[Anonymous No.7306284]

Redpill on the Tekken autist

[Anonymous No.7306287]

>>7306284
*Redpill me

[Anonymous No.7306289]

>>7306284
SUPERIOR
LIMB
BASED
COMBAT

[Anonymous No.7306296]

>>7306284
some tekken shill that spams every board with tekken in an attempt to get people to play his dying game, apparently he had a mental breakdown almost killed himself (no joke) when SF had more entrants than tekken at EVO before it was canceled.

[Anonymous No.7306317]

Tekken 4 was the peak of the series, it was all downhill from there

[Anonymous No.7306324]

>>7306317
T4 was bad even for a tekken game, and tekken is a garbage series.

[Anonymous No.7306330]

>>7306069
1 combo. the game is KoF XIII. it has this trials mode that has overlong custom combos. you can check the combo from the pic here https://youtu.be/Gvx7oUUh6S8?t=108

[Anonymous No.7306335]

>>7306237
Tekken has some of the most iconic designs in any FG. There are simple yet recognizable.

[Anonymous No.7306346]

>>7306335
Who is this bootleg Akuma?

[Anonymous No.7306354]

>>7306335
>Knockoff Akuma
>Iconic
LMAO

[Anonymous No.7306362]

Was Tekken really that popular? I remember T2 being in the arcade at the movie theater, but nobody talked about it

[Anonymous No.7306363]

>>7306346
Grandpakuma "back in my day we only had fists to punch people with, not your vagina magic"

[Anonymous No.7306412]

>>7306282
Yeah fuck me for not memorizing generic-ass characters in a game I played like twice in a meme genre nobody cares about?
I think you overestimate how familiar the general public is with button mashing games

[Anonymous No.7306429]

>>7306412
Are you not posting on a niche imageboard specifically for old video games, most of which are considered "meme genres"?

Or are you the general public?

[Anonymous No.7306829]

>>7305859
>rage art is busted
you've clearly never played it for more than 5 minutes or watched anyone remotely skilled playing it. rage arts are for scrubs and for punishing scrubs.

[Anonymous No.7306853]

>>7306081
so block? know your frames and know your opponent/matchup. i dont know what these other fucks are talking about with "no neutral". i've spent easily 20 straight seconds with zero launches before. pokes, blocks, feints, reads. its all there when you play well.

[Anonymous No.7306864]

>>7306245
nostalgia goggles: the post.

[Anonymous No.7306978]

>>7305368
i like the 90s sega sound a lot but cmon man you gotta be smoking rocks to think namco's music "couldn't hold a candle" to it

[Anonymous No.7307481]

>>7306978
Not him, and i actually like the T1/2/3 sound tracks but Taito absolutely fucking ANNIHILATED them when it came to music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks9djYoO3YQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qyktH_bDgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjNC69lnsFo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvwQdMrArDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpasfupLJO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao09Anx1Tfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGms8Olq20E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uiz5K-8s5p0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YPGlPguuRo

[Anonymous No.7308580]

>>7306075

A competitive player would know that Tekken is absolutely ruthless and relies on incredibly elaborate setplay. One mistake against a good player can cost you the round. Mashing will guarantee you lose to anyone half decent.

Ironically, VF actually is masher friendly, at least compared to Tekken, because of the nature of its incredibly quick pace and simple, effective button combos. A newcomer armed with only a decent understanding of fighting game fundamentals can do ok at VF simply by getting inside the opponent's head and being aggressive. It's one of the easiest series to pick up and play, if one of the hardest to master.

[Anonymous No.7308635]

Namco sucks ass ass

[Anonymous No.7308640]

>>7302734
Easy as shit and WOAHHH 3D FIGHTAN

[Anonymous No.7308653]

>>7302734
Tekken is the quintessential 90s normie garbage. Everyone and their grandmother has played it. Requires zero talent and dedication. It's the video game equivalent of eating a "meal" at Taco Bell. It doesn't taste good but it fills you up and what remains is a fat turd.

[Anonymous No.7308657]

>>7308653
here comes the faggot again with the food analogies. The same one of the other thread who said he liked fortnite, go figure

[Anonymous No.7308748]

>>7308657
1. first post
2. never played fartniece

[Anonymous No.7309086]

>Yeah that's the old guy from Tekken and that... is a clone Ryu?

[Anonymous No.7309097]

It looked very impressive graphically and it was substantially different gameplay-wise from 2d fighters

[Anonymous No.7309180]

>>7309097
>It looked very impressive graphically
No.

[Anonymous No.7309183]

>>7309180
Yes, cope, seethe, etc.

[Anonymous No.7309192]

>>7306412
you're trying too hard man just take the loss and move on

[Anonymous No.7309195]

>>7309183
It looked dated when it hit the arcades. VF2 on Model 2 shits all over it.

[Anonymous No.7309196]

>>7309195
I like Sega in general, but people like you make it harder to do so.

[Anonymous No.7309203]

>>7305727
As an experienced tekken veteran I can tell you Tekken 7 is absolute dogshit. Rage arts completely changed the way the game is played and not in a good way. If they removed the rage arts but kept the rage drives it would be the best Tekken yet. Seriously rage arts ruin the pacing, can be used as a counter because of the armor, and who the fuck wants to watch the stupid cutscene EVERY GODDAMN ROUND

[Anonymous No.7309216]

>>7309196
cry cope seethe dil8

[Anonymous No.7309298]

>>7304731
Tekken 1 looked like absolute ass. Even back then.

[Anonymous No.7309309]

>>7305727
>Tekken 7 isn't relevant
It's so irrelevant I didn't know it was released and had to google it after reading your post lol

[Anonymous No.7309332]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVFnXKpiH5M

admit it, you loaded this up in Action Replay to nut to Nina Williams

[Anonymous No.7309352]

>>7309332
>video from 2006
>description says "PSX"

[Anonymous No.7309452]

Tekken 3 was when the franchise peaked. They increased the speed of the gameplay so you don't have to spend two whole seconds trying to recover after getting knocked down, got rid of the wacky moon jumping, revamped all of the original cast and added a new cast of characters that varied and had unique fighting styles. Eddy might have been a button-masher friendly character, but that's if you're just casually battling a friend; otherwise you'd have never seen a fluidly animated Capoeira fighting style before in a game up until Tekken 3. Also, all other elements of the game were decent, from the sound design (both music and sound effect direction) to the re-balancing of the characters. Paul's miracle deathfist still does as much damage as ever, but that's a series staple even today.

>>7304702
>>7304731
Namco themselves said upon the marketing release information of the System 11 board (the arcade hardware powering the Tekken games) that they'd be using cheaper hardware and making up for the cost in the quality of their games. They knew that choosing the PlayStation as the base for their hardware would not only be cheaper in production costs but also allow for very quick home ports of their arcade games, so this efficiency all paid off for them in the long run. One exception is Tekken 3, which was based off of the System 12 board which has slightly faster processing power by about 20MHz. If you directly compare the arcade version to the console port, there's a few things that the developers had to dial back in order to bring the game to the PS1. For instance, the game runs at an oddball resolution (which is why it looks weird on some emulators including Sony's own PS1 emulator on the PS3). The 3D stage props were omitted and were instead pre-baked into the endless scrolling bitmap background textures. Also, characters had animated facial expressions when attacking or getting hit, which is something else that the home console port omits.

[Anonymous No.7309474]

>>7305327
>>7309298

Wanna know how I know you're too young to have seen a PSX in 1995?

[Anonymous No.7309530]

>>7306156
>>7306335
>>7306156
I definitely agree that the character design for Tekken appealed to players of a worldwide audience, whereas Virtua Fighter's cast was directly geared towards its native Japanese audience, from the designs of the characters themselves to the names.

If you go down the list of some of VF's characters:
>Akira: Traditional for-honor martial artist
>Sarah: Japanese-interpreted American woman stereotype of busty blonde with blue eyes
>Pai: Chinese girl with hidden personality quirks
>Kage: Obligatory shinobi/ninja
>Lau: Old Chinese man who's knowledgeable in martial arts trope

As for some of Tekken's characters:
>Paul: Biker badass with unusual skyscraper hairstyle
>Law: Bruce Lee expy
>Nina: Beautiful assassin stereotype
>King: Mexican luchador whose voice actually sounds like a wild cat
>Yoshimitsu: A mysterious weirdo but can attack with a weapon which no other characters do
>Michelle: Native-American wild girl

Over time, both franchises played tag with one another when it came to new characters:

>Kazuya is Namco's spin on Akira; they're not copies of one another, but their initial design is similar
>Lee is Namco's answer to Lion
>Lei is Namco's answer to both Lau and Shun
>Taka Arashi is Sega's answer to Ganryu
>Aoi is Sega's answer to Jun
>Xiaoyu is Namco's answer to Pai
>Feng is Namco's answer to Lei-Fei

[Anonymous No.7309586]

>>7305658
VF2 and T1 released on console around the same time.

Truth is, just like with FF7, the popularity of Tekken was mostly due to marketing.

[Anonymous No.7309590]

>>7306065
>arab akira

[Anonymous No.7309604]

Shit thread

[Anonymous No.7309618]

it had pretty amazing graphics on the ps1 and was 60 FPS at that. Tekken is also great because it's casual friendly while still having a very high skill ceiling

[Anonymous No.7309620]

Explain why this series makes you seethe this much, /vr/.
This is pretty pathetic.

[Anonymous No.7309628]

>>7302734
imo, it had fun characters, a lot of style, interesting stories for a fighter, it wasn't boring to look at like virtua fighter and easy to pick up for newcomers.
I'm not knee deep in fighting game so idk if tekken 3 was as big with the hardcore fighting people, i just know everyone I knew had it because of these reasons.

[Anonymous No.7309651]

>>7309628
Agreed. Virtua Fighter is boring as fuck unless you actually know what you are doing and are playing against someone that also knows what they are doing. Honestly starting to prefer Virtua Fighter but good luck finding someone to play with. The series is basically dead

[Anonymous No.7309658]

>>7309530
It's funnier when you know that Seiichi Ishii (the Director of Virtua Fighter) left after the first game and went to Namco to make Tekken because he wanted to make a fighing game with more style

[Anonymous No.7309813]

>>7309651
sad but true.
I've been steamrolling the cpu in "journey mode" or whatever in 4 and 5 for fucking years now. And still aint got shit for outfits.

[Anonymous No.7309821]

>>7305692
VF is irrelevant because Sega hasn't made a new entry in 16 years.

[Anonymous No.7309837]

Tekken was the game that made me want a PlayStation (I stuck with Nintendo at the time).
I remember my older sister hyping it up, then I finally got to play it and had a blast. Then I heard about Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. I was sold.

[Anonymous No.7309845]

>>7306156
Had Shenmue been the VF RPG it was originally intended to be, it could have helped build the franchise up. But yes Tekken especially starting with 3 had a really strong identifiable style that VF lacked. Stages don't even have names.

[Anonymous No.7309863]

>>7309620
>Explain why this series makes you seethe this much, /vr/.
it's nintentards falseflagging as segatards because they didn't have a single good fighting game during the N64/GC years.
>but smash
not a fighter, it's a glorified party game

[Anonymous No.7309892]

>>7306114
The only memorable character designs in Tekken are the ones which are completely stupid.

[Anonymous No.7309909]

>>7305673
>You had Virtua Fighter and Toshinden to compete with Tekken 3

Virtua Fighter had zero console presence in 1997 and Toshindens then current entry was a closed arena party fighter where Michael Jackson with a sword was fighting Catwoman.

[Anonymous No.7309914]

>>7309863
sony consoles got all the ports from the failure that were sega consoles though :)

[Anonymous No.7309919]

>>7308580
I literally just mash whenever I play Tekken and almost never lose lol
Fighting games are one of the shallowest genres out there

[Anonymous No.7309927]

>>7305658
>As soon as people saw Daytona/VF1 on Saturn next to Ridge Racer/Tekken on PSone, the battle was already over.

Daytona / Ridge Racer, I agree with, but Tekken 1 looked as bad as VF1 on Saturn, and it played liek a piece of shit on top of that. It wasn't until Tekken 3 that they stole enough formula from VF that Tekken became a somewhat playable fighter.

[Anonymous No.7310075]

>>7309919
>Fighting games are one of the shallowest genres out there

Hi idiot

>>7309927
>Tekken 1 looked as bad as VF1 on Saturn

Tekken 1 was fully textured and 60fps, VF1 was basic polys and 30fps, in addition to suffering a lot of weird glitches. That made a big difference to shoppers.

[Anonymous No.7310091]

>>7310075
Hi buttmad fighting gamer

[Anonymous No.7312510]

in tekken you can press some buttons in sequence and sort of mash and cool stuff would come out, casual players prefer this to qcf inputs in other fighting games and the playstation was huge at the time, its not that tekken is dumbed down than other fighters, its just easier to mash in in a casual setting and have fun without having to go into the comand list

[Anonymous No.7312535]

>>7309919
Playing against your equally braindead friends is different from playing against people who actually know the game.

[Anonymous No.7312979]

>>7312510
No, tekken is severely dumbed down compared to other fighters.

[Anonymous No.7314421]

>>7306114
Agreed. How popular fighting games are depends on how iconic/cool the characters are, as well as good single player content. This is why MK is such a popular fighter but not taken seriously competitively. Obviously, popularity = getting casuals on board.

[Anonymous No.7314462]

>>7306114
>>7314421
Oh, and yea. Story does matter. At least have simple endings with a wall of text and victory picture in arcade mode. Fighting games with avsolutely nothing but vs mode and arcade with no ending at all is meaningless to me. I don't care about playing randoms online and don't play with friends anymore like we did in our younger days.