SINK OR SWIM - IT'S DOOM OR DIE

[Anonymous No.7301935]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>7298663

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

OP PASTE
https://pastebin.com/0a5NVM8C

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user content recommendations

Same thing, in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

[Anonymous No.7301940]

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA, UPDATED:
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[1-17]Backwoods demo release
https://twitter.com/Shorted_Fuse/status/1350601620338434049

[1-15]Time Tripper, a Doom II episode with custom conent and minor gameplay changes
https://heckscaper.com/tt/

[1-15]Wrath: Aeon of RUIN Updated
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1000410/announcements/detail/4589698632264671265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2N12cxEXVs

[1-13] vkQuake updated
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.05.2

[1-12] YamagiQ2 testbuild with vulkan
https://github.com/yquake2/yquake2/pull/643

[1-12] Crispy Doom 5.10.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/67168-crispy-doom-5100-update-jan-12-2021/

[1-12] Shrak unofficial patch released
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62008

[1-10] Progs_dump v2.00 released, a dev kit that expands vanilla possibilites for mapping, adds QoL features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTbkLP3B2FE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A3v318I8s4ZtbOsW08ok7nY83mAXdOAX/view

[1-9]500ML updated with a new map for playtesting: >>7274097

[1-9]Quakewulf releases Security Terminal for Quake 2
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/console.zip

[1-8] Woof version 3.1.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/112333-this-is-woof-310-jan-08-2021-updated-winmbf/

[1-7] Corruption Cards updated to 1.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67939&p=1178053#p1178053

[1-6] Another anon shares a map they made for a larger project (Limit removing, MAP09 slot)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/2ivjew3sw4uipgf/hf09.wad/file

[1-6] Anon shares a WIP map, looking for feedback (ZDoom compatible)
https://files.catbox.moe/yk5fc1.wad

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

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[Anonymous No.7301949]

First for Marathon is superior

[Anonymous No.7301950]

[i warned you No.7301978]

NIGGER

[Anonymous No.7301993]

dumb question... does anyone know what this is from?

[Anonymous No.7302010]

>>7301993
e1m1 ;)

[Anonymous No.7302042]

>>7301993
The bike game or the level?
Couldn't tell you what the bike game is but the level is definently E1M1.

[Anonymous No.7302045]

nth for Quake/UT dueling

>>7301993
Looks like Descenders

[Anonymous No.7302081]

>>7301935
GLORIOUS RIBBIKS

YES

NICE OP

HERE'S THE MUSIC TO MAP 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y69QR7wb7mI

does ribbiks really have a phd lol

[Anonymous No.7302082]

i like metadoom

[Anonymous No.7302083]

this is how i market rekkr.
on a dedicated shitposting thread on the internet boogieman.
and ass

[Anonymous No.7302087]

>>7302083
what is that?

[Anonymous No.7302090]

>>7302083
based?

[Anonymous No.7302098]

>>7302087
a enemy, its a secret don't tell ne1
>>7302090
on what?

[Anonymous No.7302102]

why is doom_txt so bland, nowadays?
they rarely post but when they do, it's the lamest fucking shit
like, there has to be a lot of interesting from about doom to post, in a meme doom account

[Anonymous No.7302107]

>>7302090
Seems based.

[Anonymous No.7302119]

>>7302098
Owning the libs.

[Anonymous No.7302170]

>>7302083
That booty reminds me of Adon. I wish Turok dev didn't die :(

[Anonymous No.7302191]

[Anonymous No.7302204]

Man I loved playing SOF1 again, its a bit linear and jank here and there, but damn that heavy machine gun bullet chain jiggle and how powerful the guns feel.
And all the 80s action flick locations, fuck yeah sudanese warlord slaughter house map hiding a missile factory.
Kinda shit we now these days have much better engines to realize this shit and nobody does anything.

Waiting for Sin and Kingpin reloaded.

[Anonymous No.7302206]

>>7302191
top is the fps? what fps do you expect to get out of the final version, with or without textures?
also, is collision working now?

[Anonymous No.7302214]

>>7302206
yes collision is working, that's basically how it determines which sector the camera is in

[Anonymous No.7302224]

>>7302206
>>7302214
and yeah top left is the fps
depends on how well i can optimize it but maybe between 10-15fps with textures.

[Anonymous No.7302238]

>>7302214
>>7302224
That makes sense, with the sector tagging.

[Anonymous No.7302262]

Playthrough video of map27 of 2048 units of /vr/ is up. I had absolutely no problem beating it during my practice run, but recording it took a while. Challenging, but fair. I'd place it on the 4th place in my map ranking of this wad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pppTEr8DFcE

[Anonymous No.7302386]

You know sometimes I wish I had enough tism to be able to not only have a weirdass OC but to also turn it into a Doom mod just cause I could.

[Anonymous No.7302403]

>>7302386
sometimes, you may spend too much time developing shitty lore and ideas with no consistency and too much bloat, before even writing a piece of code or a drawing for visual reference
there ideas could be there and you could even find ways to make sense but there's still something in front, even if it's your own fault and you may or may not be able to fix that

[Anonymous No.7302406]

>>7302386
Yeah what kinda dork would do that?

[Anonymous No.7302417]

>>7302386
cute feet

[Anonymous No.7302441]

>>7302386
weird OC i want to make a doom wad for is probably like a solid 30% of gameplay mods

[Anonymous No.7302447]

>>7302386
>>7302406
How do you care enough about fictional stuff to want to write it? I can't muster up a single shit about stuff I have no involvement in as is.

[Anonymous No.7302454]

>>7302447
I just wind up making characters, and I love them, so I wanna do cool stuff with them and show the world these characters.

[Anonymous No.7302458]

>>7302447
It could be a matter of inspiration or just fictional concepts you like and would want to do something with

[Anonymous No.7302460]

>>7302454
who is gonna voice samson? inb4 u

[Anonymous No.7302462]

>>7302460
I've been trying to figure that out too, I'm not voicing him though, I'm no voice actor.

[Anonymous No.7302484]

>>7302454
Yes but what drives you to like them? What triggers the emotional response?

I want to be happy again.

[Anonymous No.7302494]

>>7302462
I'll do it.

[Anonymous No.7302501]

>>7302484
In my case it might be because I started modding when I was in a shitty place in my life. So creating these characters and working on mods made for an amazing way to destress, plus I always wanted to make video games. Blaz is very much a hero to me as he is to other people in his setting, same thing with his buddies and Arti.

[Anonymous No.7302509]

Anyone knows if this got dropped? Played some version a few years ago and it was pretty damn fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA5HIN5RWU8

[Anonymous No.7302517]

>>7302501
>work made me destress

what the fuck are you

[Anonymous No.7302528]

>>7302517
It isn't work to me though, I was getting to make shit and then get it out in a way that's like, tangible. I was like "Holy shit look, I made this thing squiggle on the screen." I've been constantly learning and improving ever since. Getting better at this shit is addictive to me.

and you think that's bad, Combined_Arms Gaiden was supposed to be a small side project I wound up making to decompress from working on so much on major projects between GMOTA and Combined_Arms, so maybe I do have a problem

[Anonymous No.7302554]

>>7302517
Doing shit you like to do even if it takes a lot of time and effort will make the day slip away. If spriting/coding/mapping/etc makes you want to tongue fuck a shotgun barrel it's perhaps not quite for you, or you haven't found your own rhythm and passion yet

[Anonymous No.7302556]

>>7301949
fpbp

[Anonymous No.7302570]

>>7302484

[Anonymous No.7302601]

>>7301949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXwevR52t5k
DUNDUNDUNDUN DUDUN
DUNDUNDUNDUN DUDUN
INFINITY

[Anonymous No.7302617]

>at work a week or so ago
>in the breakroom with a few other co-workers
>one co-worker discusses Doom with a manager
>obviously referring to 2016 or Eternal; also talking about playing it on console, heresy
>bring up classic Doom, tell them I prefer it to these newfangled Doom games
>"oh you mean like the arcade Doom?"
>correct them by saying it was originally a DOS game, now best enjoyed via source ports
>"he likes the arcade Doom!"
>try to tell them that I pistol-started Plutonia Experiment on UV while getting all kills/secrets, but it all comes out as mumbles
>conversation soon fades and they move onto the next subject while ignoring me
Just another tale in never revealing your power level.

[Anonymous No.7302632]

>>7302617
nice pasta

[Anonymous No.7302679]

are they ever going to find a fucking cure for anhedonia?

[Anonymous No.7302686]

>>7302617
Am I the only one that likes the idea of more people hearing about Doom, but don't like the idea that the entirety of the classic Doom community and it's creations gets completely overshadowed? Maybe I'm autistic or something I have no idea how to describe it

[Anonymous No.7302698]

>>7302686
It's probably because, for better or worse, Doom is a series whose identity, both officially or just in pop culture image, has been meddled by outsiders
Either fans or even just people in general
Doom modding in itself is also important besides just being interesting
You look at the impact of ALWAYS_RUN, Doom 64's ports and a lot more and you realize it might be harder to seperate Doom from its fanbase
Even the nickname "Doomguy" is proof of this

[Anonymous No.7302715]

For the sake of clarity, I would like to reiterate again that the Golden Age of FPS began in 1992 with the release of the Wolfenstein 3D shareware and ended in 1998 with the release of Half-Life.

The top ten most based FPS of all time, in no particular order, are:
1. Doom 1/2
2. Rise of the Triad
3. Blood
4. Shadow Warrior
5. Duke Nukem 3D
6. Quake
7. Wolfenstein 3D
8. Powerslave
9. Hexen
10. Heretic

And the most cringe, in no particular order:
Half-Life

I am open to dicussion on this matter if you believe it to be in error.

[Anonymous No.7302726]

>>7302715
To add: Doom 64 would be number 11.

[Anonymous No.7302743]

>>7302715
Thoughts on the Turok games?

[Anonymous No.7302747]

Are you a bad enough dude to play idgames roulette?

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

>click link to get a random upload from idgames
>play it (as far as you want anyway)
>no need to finish it if you don't like it - it's supposed to be fun
>take at least one screenshot
>post a link to it here in reply afterwards
>tell us what you thought about it
>if you get a DM map, texture pack, or utility, etc, reroll

[Anonymous No.7302750]

>>7302715
>Rise of the Triad
>two weapon limit
>based

[Anonymous No.7302768]

>>7302715
where's Halo?

[Anonymous No.7302782]

>>7302747
Pyro's Revenge from '95 (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/p-r/pyro1).). A short level that kind of reminds me of Hell Revealed's early maps (but much easier). The only noteworthy section is this Chasm riff that has multiple paths that get you different gear (all of which are useless since it leads right to the exit). Inoffensive but bad. 1.5/5

[Anonymous No.7302834]

>>7302768
The 1999 PC canned game that was essentially Marathon 3 plot-wise?

[Anonymous No.7302840]

>>7302715
Wolfenstein isn't very good. It's just fine

[Anonymous No.7302856]

>>7302743
The attention whore doesn't like Turok.

[Anonymous No.7302898]

>>7302856
he doesn't like any fps, just larp like all zoomies do.

[Anonymous No.7302915]

What the fuck even is a Powerslave? Seriously.

[Anonymous No.7302939]

>>7302686
it's not just you, anon, i'm definitely pretty annoyed that the popular perception of doom is mainly shit like "you can't just punch a hole in the mars, doomguy!" and "RIP AND TEAR"

[Anonymous No.7302946]

>>7302715
>>7302834
Okay, so where's Marathon?

[Anonymous No.7302951]

What is the best method for mapping?

Place all the sectors and stuff beforehand and then start detailing later?
Or build room by room?

[Anonymous No.7302957]

>>7302743
Turdcock? Come on. Not a fan of Faggotfog.

Full disclosure I had Turok 1 and 2 for N64 when I was in high school and liked them then. They're ok I guess.

[Anonymous No.7302965]

>>7302915
Powerslave is awesome.

[Anonymous No.7302967]

>>7302951
Block out level design - pathing through the level - key features/identifying set pieces first, and then place monsters/items, before saving detailing for last. Playtest constantly so you can gain a sense of your level's progression and what threats you can and can't do yet.

[Anonymous No.7302969]

>>7302750
yes, even back then developers realized that weapon limits are best suited for weapons that are variations of the same basis
i.e. 6 different rocket launchers

[Anonymous No.7302974]

>>7302946
I love Marathon but for me 2 is really the stand out entry. I would perhaps change the series as a whole put for ROTT in that list since it certainly offers more.

[Anonymous No.7302979]

>>7302750
You can carry more than two weapons. You can also carry a missle weapon, of which there is a variety.

[Anonymous No.7302992]

>>7302939
You and me both, it's so fucking annoying

>>7302957
Doesn't the Nightdive releases have an option to remove fog or am I retarded?

>>7302965
Looks good, actually. Should I play this in Raze or another sourceport?

[Anonymous No.7302998]

>>7302951
finish the first draft before you start polishing or iterating
for the love of fuck
its a very easy trapping to fall into and kills any and all long term productivity
if you have to add detail, make them large and basic in shape
or just slap some noisier textures where the smaller ones would go

[Anonymous No.7303000]

>>7302992
Yeah, I think so. I have actually been considering buying the rerelease of 1 or 2 to be honest. I just like calling it Turdcock.

The OP Win 98 link has Powerslave, both the PC and EX (the console and PC versions are very different games) versions preconfigured and ready to go

[Anonymous No.7303018]

>>7302750
>>7302979
Think of it more like an arcade game. You aren't really expected to do much heavy fighting with the bullet weapons, they're mainly there so you can defend yourself as you fight from one missile weapon to the next.

[Anonymous No.7303031]

>>7302998
I see - if you detail for a section that you ultimately delete, it can exponentially increase time spent

[Anonymous No.7303034]

>>7302840
It's highly underrated now I think. It has a very tense atmosphere that no other FPS has. I played Wolf3D after playing Doom II as a kid but I still have fond memories of playing through it one summer. Catacomb Abyss as well.

[Anonymous No.7303035]

>>7302715
>Do i fit in yet?
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.7303037]

>>7302998
itd be nice if there was a comprehensive workflow guide or something. not that it would be perfect for everyone but still. as far detailing i usually try detail and texture stuff while i brainstorm. so i'm always busy

[Anonymous No.7303040]

>>7302715
>2. Rise of the Triad
Boring flat game.

[Anonymous No.7303042]

>>7303018
Arcade is an excellent way to describe it. ROTT had a very arcadish feel, it's very video game-y in a way no other FPS was. Or really has been since, it's very unique. I am hoping it gets the renewed attention it deserves with the rerelease. I was fortunate enough to play COMM-BAT multiplayer back in the day and its a blast

[Anonymous No.7303043]

>>7302686
>>7302939
>>7302992
>i'm definitely pretty annoyed that the popular perception of doom is mainly shit like "you can't just punch a hole in the mars, doomguy!" and "RIP AND TEAR"
I agree. Honestly, I really like the new Doom games. Eternal at least. 2016 is a great game but after Eternal it's too slow for me. But the constant spew of repetitive same bullshit that is "RIP AND TEAR BRO!!!" and "YOU CAN'T JUST SHOOT A HOLE IN MARSS!!!!" or "THE LONGER THE ICON-" etc, etc. It gets intolerable after awhile.

[Anonymous No.7303046]

>>7303034
That makes me think, different Wolf game btw, but what makes Return to Castle Wolfenstein so good specifically, aside from it being a fast paced shooter? I haven't played it enough to fully appreciate, but from what I know it's essentially a heavily revamped and reinterpretation version of Wolf 3D's gameplay (shooting Nazis and collecting gold and finding secrets).

[Anonymous No.7303049]

>>7303000
I forgot I had Turok 2 installed on another machine, but yeah by default it has extended draw distance on

[Anonymous No.7303051]

>>7302715
It appears my superiority has led to some controversey

[Anonymous No.7303060]

>>7302204

oh shit and Matrix Mode was the greatest

[Anonymous No.7303068]

7302715
fuck off to doomworld

[Anonymous No.7303074]

>>7303051
ROTT had nothing on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fsGHlIdpbs

[Anonymous No.7303079]

>>7303035
Seethe, faggot.
>>7303046
I bought RTCW at launch on PC. Fucking loved that game.
>>7303068
You first, tranny.

[Anonymous No.7303085]

lol he mad

[Anonymous No.7303090]

>>7303085
Yes, positively livid.

Going to play Shadow Warrior, later nerds

[Anonymous No.7303091]

>>7302715
pleb taste

[Anonymous No.7303104]

>>7302747
wad: "Demon Invasion Episode 1 & 2"
creator: DOOMac
url: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/g-i/invasion

Description:
Two-map wad for Doom 2 where the first level looks like it served as a test for the second. This guy *loves* dark narrow hallways and Spectres and monster closets...with Spectres. Also uses a trope I hate, switches that unlock doors you can't see and are too far away to really get a sense that they'd actually done anything. In the first level there's a timed switch to an obscured door, but thankfully I don't think he did it again on Level 2.
You actually get a sense that he learned a bit while making the second level, since after the first key I noticed you'd occasionally hit a switch/door combo where he'd leave items behind the door as a way to draw your eye, so good on you.

Dim hallways aside, probably the defining moment of this map is a room with a large crusher placed at the bottom of some stairs that led upward to a dais area where arachnotrons, mancubi, chaingunners and cacos fight. The use of the crusher makes cowering from the projectiles dicey, since you can easily backpedal too far if you're not careful.

One thing of note: the yellow key is present in the raised rampart area near the back of this room, I missed it and wandered around for too long.

[Anonymous No.7303107]

the most soulful mods

[Anonymous No.7303113]

>>7303043
"Rip and tear" and "The longer the Icon of Sin" at least work better for me cus they both work as a lore type of thing. The latter being a form of what little story telling there is (thankfully) in Eternal by raising the stakes via reminding you how much of a Hellish creature the Icon is, and the former actually being a somewhat genius way of taking what was once a cheesy tongue in cheek line in a comic book and still have it not be too silly within NuDoom's context (then again, the way "Rip and Tear" is worded doesn't necessarily limit itself to something tongue in cheek; it's easily interchangeable with DoomGuy's rage-fueled character and how he decimates literally everything in his path like the absolute fucking unit he is).

"Hole in Mars" I can forgive as a goofy little bit of comic relief in Eternal, but yeah there are a lot of annoying fuckwads that spew it and the other two lines as a joke/meme that isn't funny anymore. The original contexts of the lines and anything else that's gotten memed to Hell and back I don't have a problem with at all, but you give unfunny people on the Internet an inch and they'll make a mile out of it. It's a common thing with any form of popular media to have fans recite lines ad nauseam, but I'd imagine with something as big of an IP as Doom being rebooted, regardless of how long it's been since a new entry came out and depending how well said reboot is done, you'd expect that such a phenomenon would be especially prominent in the community.

[Anonymous No.7303120]

>>7302747
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/a-c/anteroom

So 1994 that it hurts, at least it had a good idea with having you teleport back to the main room over and over

[Anonymous No.7303121]

>>7303104
Oh, it's also got custom sounds, including a lengthy one for the activation noise. You'll tune them out after the first 100 times lol

[Anonymous No.7303151]

>>7302517
I mean personally most of the time I engage in any creative activity it's to distract myself from something fucking terrible in my life. Doing so is also a good way to guarantee that you devote an inhuman amount of time to it as well.

[Anonymous No.7303158]

>>7303043
>>7303113
eternal is objectively a better game than 2016 but man what the fuck were they thinking with the writing, genuinely one of the worst stories i've ever played
anyway this isn't retro so: i just started marathon, i like it overall but does the level design get any better because right now it's annoying labyrinthine bullshit

[Anonymous No.7303168]

>>7303034
I played Wolf3D back then too. I never really found it tense. The only parts that were close were the boss fights.
Eh. Blake Stone was a fair bit better. But of course it came out a fair bit later, so that tracks.

[Anonymous No.7303172]

[Anonymous No.7303191]

>>7301993
this looks like one of those fake games you'd see on Law & Order

[Anonymous No.7303206]

>>7303158
It gets worse

[Anonymous No.7303221]

>>7303206
fuck
i just hope durandal shows up soon, leela is boring, i expected esoteric megalomaniac AI rants not "aliens are in this sector you have to kill them"

[Anonymous No.7303247]

>there is no such thing as a push-activated lift
>all lifts are activated by switch or walk-over
Why the fuck did I think I was pressing use to activate the lifts in Doom this whole time

[Anonymous No.7303249]

>want to play QuakeWorld
>intimidated by just how fast the people who still play it are

[Anonymous No.7303252]

a few enemies don't spawn in Crispy Doom while playing coop.
What's going on?

[Anonymous No.7303258]

>>7303172
the prophecy

[Anonymous No.7303263]

>>7303172
one more

[Anonymous No.7303274]

>>7303247
Nevermind, I'm retarded, I had the linedef facing the wrong way

[Anonymous No.7303287]

>>7303172
>absolutely dull clusterpuck becomes quickly retarded

[Anonymous No.7303296]

>>7303172
>top bimbo

[Anonymous No.7303298]

Anyone?>>7303252

[Anonymous No.7303306]

>>7303298
No clue. I know they had a huge update recently. I haven't played it yet. Maybe it's a bug.

[Anonymous No.7303313]

>>7303158
you're not wrong, but there's a certain cleanliness to 2016 if that makes sense that eternal just lacks, maybe it's the goofy shit, maybe it's the story bleeding into the gameplay, maybe it's the fact that 2016 was just good old doom man rampaging across mars and hell, maybe the desolate tone, I dunno
maybe it's because there were no marauders holy assfuck
>>7303113
I thought the hole in mars bit was a cute joke, did normalfags really try to "meme" it? don't answer that actually I feel I already know the answer
The icon of sin bit wasn't even really a joke it's just taking the piss out of sammy repeating himself like 8 times verbatim so I can see that
on a /vr/ related note, has anyone recreated the modern dooms as wads? seems like the kind of thing a bored modder would try

[Anonymous No.7303319]

>>7303306
it just crispy that has the missing enemies for me.
chocolate works fine.

[Anonymous No.7303329]

>>7303252
That sounds strange, as vanilla map format (which is what limit removing maps also use) only has a flag for making things multiplayer only.
Boom did introduce "not deathmatch" and "not cooperative" flags, but crispy is not fully boom format compatible.

[Anonymous No.7303378]

>>7303263
>no duke reboot where he's a washed up hasbeen that has to reclaim his glory and titties from the clutches of magic man randy

[Anonymous No.7303385]

>>7303298
>>7303306
>>7303329
>>7303319
oh i get it now.
Enemies killing each other don't add up to the kill count in coop.
Fuckin great vanilla doom.

[Anonymous No.7303387]

>>7303378
One of these days, man.

[Anonymous No.7303418]

>>7303385
Testing solo-net, this seems to check out.

[Anonymous No.7303420]

Canon

[Anonymous No.7303442]

>>7303378
>magic man randy
lol. reclaiming his mojo reminds me of that Johnny bravo pic from a few days ago. goes from getting slapped and rejected to slanging benis. if done properly that would be great. some great humor and what not

[Anonymous No.7303454]

I finally fixed up the Nanotrasen Sergeant so it doesn't look like he spilled spaghetti on his uniform.

[Anonymous No.7303458]

>>7301993
https://twitter.com/RageSquid/status/1349682739809824768

[Anonymous No.7303461]

>>7303074
neat, I didn't know that was a thing and I beat it twice

[Anonymous No.7303463]

How many people here played with the Raze sourceport? If so, how was your experience?

[Anonymous No.7303470]

>>7303247
Technically Switch triggers are Use triggers.

[Anonymous No.7303583]

You know map28 from Scythe?
What if there was a community project where every map followed the concept of having to reach the exit before the crusher reaches you?

[Anonymous No.7303604]

>>7303583
Voodoo crusher or actual crusher? lol

[Anonymous No.7303628]

>>7303454
I have no idea what that is or who you are.

[Anonymous No.7303648]

Playing BTSX Episode 1 with Babel and I've noticed a few things:
-BTSX1 is real good. I was nearly filtered at map19 but I pulled through, map20 was amazing and probably my favorite level so far. Currently on 22.
-Babel is REALLY fucking good, hot damn. The balance and speed of everything feels great, Quake-speed switching for weapons has been very satisfying in managing ammo, I like what's been done to balance the shotguns, and all the enemy changes are fun.
-I found out I really like the occasional "somber music" for my fights, like here in 20 of BTSX or levels like Pharaoh in TNT.

[Anonymous No.7303654]

>>7303583
fucking hell that map stresses me out

no pls

[Anonymous No.7303668]

>>7303628

Who am i? You've probably seen me posting in previous threads.

What is it? Let me show you.

[Anonymous No.7303684]

>>7303604
Map28 of Scythe uses voodoo crusher

[Anonymous No.7303717]

Anyone else try out Demon Throne?

[Anonymous No.7303732]

>>7302617
Is my old post becoming copypasta now?
Yes, it did happen, yes, I still want to kms

[Anonymous No.7303745]

[Anonymous No.7303748]

>>7303648
Rottking's maps (E1M20, E1M22, and E2M22) are some of the most atmospheric out of BTSX, IMO.
I believe he also has a map in E3: https://rottking.wordpress.com/saturnx-ep3/

[Anonymous No.7303758]

>>7303748
>Rottking
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x99cdyhv2rjuond/bloodite3.mp3?dl=0

[Anonymous No.7303826]

>>7302083
Based and coompilled.

>>7302747
Oh shit, rollan.

[Anonymous No.7303876]

>>7303745
Don't worry about it man it's probably el'fonzo and the shitter squad trying rustle people

[Anonymous No.7303881]

>>7303732
Don't worry about it man, its probably just el'fonzo and the shitter squad trying to rustle people

[Anonymous No.7303887]

>>7303158
It gets better and also worse. G4 Sunbathing and the Pfhor Warship are great levels. Colony Ship for Sale is one of the worst levels I've ever played and everytime I reach that level I want to shoot myself. Marathon 2 however was some insanely good level design.

[Anonymous No.7303895]

>>7303748
Huh... so his level is inspired by a pixiv artist.
i have to say i can see the reseamblance.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/72754613

[Anonymous No.7303902]

>>7302750
>"wtf why can you only have one gun at a time? Contra sucks!"

[Anonymous No.7303909]

>>7303745
looks great

[Anonymous No.7303953]

Yossarian:

YOu think you're so mature and wordly wise, well fuck you!!! Quite judging weapons by stopping power people, the magnum's the best!

Scott B.

You bastard! TRAITOROUS DOG! You wrote to Alexander Seropian that Unreal Championship kicked Marathon's ass, well I kick YOUR ASS!!!

AH AH AH AH AH AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!! YOU'RE ALL FUCKING STUPIIIIIIIIIID!!!

[Anonymous No.7303961]

>>7302081
Ribbiks has a PhD. A pretty huge-

[Anonymous No.7303976]

[Anonymous No.7303978]

>>7303976

[Anonymous No.7303980]

>>7303961
doommappingcareer?

[Anonymous No.7303982]

>>7302081
IIRC, this is water world from DKC3 GBA
And then map03's music is the SNES version

[Anonymous No.7304029]

>>7303034
It's a little barebones honestly, but at the same time I also enjoy the more cartoony graphics, as well as the simplicity of just running and collecting treasure.
My favorite iteration of oldschool Wolfenstein 3D I think is Totenkopf SDL Edition.

>>7302951
You can be an inefficient idiot like I am, and just build it all piece by piece, detailing and all, which has a number of practical deficiencies, and something I should try moving away from.

[Anonymous No.7304052]

>>7303046
It's a *little* bit like Half-Life, only with even fewer (and even shorter) mandatory speaking segments and no tram-ride at the start, also map instances are sort of divided up levels and episodes, and they do score you at the end. It has a good level design with fun exploration, while having a largely realistic aesthetic to it, and the gunplay is pretty fast and intense. The gunplay is actually kind of better than Half-Life's, now that I think about it.
It has some stealth to it, which is kind of so-so, but it tends to work ok in the levels designed for it.

I really think it's about the best possible way you could have taken Wolfenstein from 1992 to 2001. Oh yeah, it has an alright plot to it as well, it's there, but it's not oppressive and largely serves to direct the gameplay (find X item, locate and/or eliminate Z douche, kill your way through this, quietly or loudly, and you'll achieve it), it kind of just rounds out the progression of the levels/episodes. Music is also very well suited, and is excellent at building atmosphere, the undead levels are just a wonderful kind of comfy-spooky, and the action themes are like old war movies, intense and triumphant.

https://youtu.be/2a2I0RBri5g
https://youtu.be/o-sH4ewNioM
https://youtu.be/Eoo8EyNH3GM
https://youtu.be/Zly9d5_8zpI
https://youtu.be/WtsNwQIhhno

At least some of the boss encounters are also hard cunts to defeat, if you're playing Medium or higher, and the monster design is cool. Most importantly, there's gold bars and gilded goblets to collect, and you can eat chicken dinners and cold cuts to restore your health.

[Anonymous No.7304083]

>>7302102
sadly, this has an objective reason. read second sidebar article here:
https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/2020/lifetime/

[Anonymous No.7304085]

>>7304083
Jesus fuck, I had no idea.

[Anonymous No.7304117]

>>7304085
2020 was a stupid year, we lost Slax as well.

[Anonymous No.7304178]

Does anyone know how to enforce Vanilla bugs in PrBoom? I'm trying to enforce the 21 Lost Soul limit, and I know I can do it with MAPINFO for ZDoom and stuff, but how can I enforce it for PrBoom without telling the user to go out of their way to enable it manually? A mapset I'm working on needs this particular bug in place for some maps.

[Anonymous No.7304179]

>>7303648
Do you pistol start Babel + BTSX? I find Babel pistol starting outside of Doom 1 and II is damn near impossible.

[Anonymous No.7304227]

>>7303378
>Duke Nukem: Island Peril

[Anonymous No.7304238]

is there a setting to disable mouse movement (i.e. going forward or back when the mouse moves along the y-axis) on the original doom in dosbox? or do i need external help like novert or something

[Anonymous No.7304269]

You guys wouldn't like Civvie's half life video becaue he doesn't shit on it every 3 minutes

[Anonymous No.7304281]

>>7304269
how long is the video? im not a cuckreon

[Anonymous No.7304284]

>>7304269
Half life, half dead, ALL SHIT

[Anonymous No.7304309]

>>7304281
58 minutes

[Anonymous No.7304325]

>>7303748
His work on Double Impact is supreme as well.

[Anonymous No.7304330]

>>7304309
thanks anon
>>7304325
double impact is also the wad that was officially used as an addon to the bethesda rereleases too right?

[Anonymous No.7304331]

>>7304238
You will need novert.com to disable it, there's no normal way to disable it through setup.exe. Another better option is to use the MBF 2.04 DOS port, it also removes the forward/backwards mouse movement and also runs Doom at 640x400. The DOSpack link has a working MBF version ready to go

[Anonymous No.7304342]

>>7304330
They have curated a number of good .wads already which if you're on console, you can plain get as free DLC (I guess they may also be available as a free package for the PC release as well? I'm not sure about that point, but they absolutely run them).
Double Impact was the first one they picked though, they've also added stuff like No End In Sight, Sigil, and Rekkr.

Double Impact was made by RottKing and Ralphis, and they took turns making each subsequent room in a map, which seems like a pretty interesting way to develop levels.

[Anonymous No.7304351]

>>7302459
This mod is beautiful as fuck and you should make a gameplay of it

[Anonymous No.7304372]

>>7304179
Not him but Plasma SMG was put in specifically because the ammo balance doesn't always work. Also if you look at the damage values basically everything does more damage than vanilla so the trick is controlling ammo usage. The actual pistol is very powerful if you can control the spread.

[Anonymous No.7304410]

>Trying to map
>Realize my ambitions exceed my current skillset
>Don't want to make a shitty first timer map people will ridicule, but that leaves me with my ambitions exceeding my skillset
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.7304413]

Is contest anon still gonna organize an event? Or we making that Plutonia WAD? My fingers are itching to map with you boys again.

[Anonymous No.7304418]

>>7304410
You get decent after making about five maps so just put in the time. Definitely don't share those maps with anybody though.

[Anonymous No.7304419]

>>7304413
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.7304420]

>>7304418
Hmmm that sounds like a good idea. Thank you anon. That actually makes me feel better.

[Anonymous No.7304424]

>>7304418
I made a decent map on my second try (And I might've pulled it off the first time if I understood correctly how big everything is).

[Anonymous No.7304452]

Finished Eviternity MAP19, and it took me almost an hour of in-game time.
This map was an absolute slog. I don't even think the problem is that it's long in itself, but rather, that the only reasons it is long is that it insists on wasting my time with all these goddamn switches I have to press in every goddamn room, alongside too many detours from what seems to be the main path to make things take even longer. There isn't even much exploration to be had, either, as it's super linear, despite what the automap might lead you to believe. Basically a major case of "long for the sake of being long", and easily my least liked map so far in Eviternity, and honestly, of all 2010's era big name megawads I've played.

[Anonymous No.7304473]

>>7304410
Don't be afraid to make a map that is only a few squares. Height variance is more important than pretty shapes.
Don't let your textures end abruptly.
Post monsters in interesting arrangements.
You'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.7304498]

>>7304473
Thank you too anon. I think my biggest hurdle is the fact that I want to make these complex brushes, but I don't know the ins and outs yet. But you're right: gameplay first, pretty it up (if I can) later (besides making sure textures don't just end). I'm gonna sleep on my frustrations and get a fresh start when I wake up.

[Anonymous No.7304516]

Do enemies respawn on total carnage difficulty in marathon 1?

[Anonymous No.7304518]

>>7301935
RIP Duke Nukem.

[Anonymous No.7304523]

>>7304331
I was hoping to keep it as "pure" as possible and avoid sourceports but mbf sounds nice
another bit of me being too zoomer to run dos properly but dosbox can't find doom.exe, yet runs setup.exe and by extension doom through that just fine, this normal or am I a retard?

[Anonymous No.7304527]

>>7304523
There's little reason to be completely pure, I suggest you go limit-removing and use Crispy Doom or some equivalent.

[Anonymous No.7304534]

>>7304523
Chocolate Doom will get you as close to dosbox as possible.

[Anonymous No.7304540]

>>7304518
Blow it out your ass

[Anonymous No.7304668]

>>7304523
You can use the TNTCOMP cheat to make it act like doom.exe

[Anonymous No.7304674]

>>7304269
Nah, it's not a big deal. Not for me, at least. Will look at it tomorrow when he releases it for everyone.

[Anonymous No.7304780]

>>7303887
>G4 Sunbathing
>great level
is this satire

[Anonymous No.7304823]

>>7304780
G4 is great, fag. Maybe you should pay attention to where you're going.

[Anonymous No.7304832]

>>7304269
Only zoomers don't like HL1 and it's mods.
Every boomer loved it.

[Anonymous No.7304849]

>>7304269
>one schizo speaks for all the retro fps general
zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.7304871]

>>7304518
https://youtu.be/ci7YvXWKUOI

[Anonymous No.7304876]

>>7304179
>Do you pistol start Babel + BTSX?
Yeup, and on UV on my first time through BTSX.
It's on the edge of being too much of a pain in the ass for me. I'm absolutely dialing down a bit for Episode 2, either with no pistol starts or pistol starts on HMP.

[Anonymous No.7304881]

>>7304269
what's wrong with half life that warrants a hive mind opinion of aggressive shitting upon?

[Anonymous No.7304885]

You guys told me to take my meds, I took my meds and I am now too drowsy to shitpost. I hope you're happy with yourselves.

[Anonymous No.7304892]

>>7304881
he's mad because eceleb can force his shitty opinions over normalfags.

[Anonymous No.7304895]

>>7304892
*can't force

[Anonymous No.7304896]

What are the best bots for Quake 1 and 2? Do they know how to play MP mods?

[Anonymous No.7304898]

>>7304876
To be fair I'm pretty sure the mod was balanced around iwad difficulty and continuous play. You've got balls of steel for even getting that far with pistol starts.

[Anonymous No.7304913]

Wish him and his family all the best. Wrath: Aeon of Ruin is shaping up to be a great game and I'm sure KillPixel is proud of it.

[Anonymous No.7304929]

>>7304913
>1C entertainment
Fuck that, I will no longer buy this game. Don't want my money funding gay killings in Russia. Hope someone cancels this asshole soon.

[Anonymous No.7304932]

>>7304929
>funding gay killings in Russia
Wait so if I buy Wrath they'll throw a fag off a building or something? Might have to add it to my wishlist.

[Anonymous No.7304939]

Can't wait for this shit to finally come out

[Anonymous No.7304989]

>>7304939
What is this?

[Anonymous No.7304993]

>>7304913
Imagine wasting 7 years of your life on video games

[Anonymous No.7305001]

>>7304989
A Marathon TC that has been on development for 16 years. It's called Where Monsters Are in Dreams.

[Anonymous No.7305003]

>>7304939
Yikes, looks awful.

[Anonymous No.7305016]

>>7304913
Thats too bad hes stepping away. Probably too much IRL shit.

[Anonymous No.7305070]

>>7304993
Most people here probably spent more than 7 years of their life on video games. Just depends on what exactly we're doing: playing them, mod, develop... To be fair, developing and/or modding a game would've probably been more productive than simply playing them.
>>7305016
Kind of. From I understand, it's mostly just a burnout.

[Anonymous No.7305130]

>>7304523
The MBF file to start up doom through dosbox should just be called MBF.exe. If you're okay running Doom through Windows, Chocolate Doom is the most pure port, it's basically like the DOS version. Same for Crispy Doom but it runs at 640x400. If you really, for whatever reason, want to run it in DOS(Box), MBF (version 2.04) really is the best port. If you don't know how to set it up just use the preconfigured DOS pack in the OP.
tl;dr if you want the most pure simple solution, just use Chocolate Doom

[Anonymous No.7305145]

Thief is boring.

[Anonymous No.7305167]

>>7304913
I dont know what I played the game is very boring.

It looks okay at least. Better than graven.

[Anonymous No.7305169]

>>7305145
t. ADHS zoomer

[Anonymous No.7305171]

>>7305169
Anon dont bite. Guy is probably still mad Ion Fury got shat on in the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.7305181]

>>7304913
who is he?

[Anonymous No.7305184]

>>7305169
>>7305171
any other 1998 game was better

[Anonymous No.7305192]

>>7305184
I dont man you could pick some other game to bait one. Seriously Thief is masterpiece for the ages. Even for people that dont care about stealth. LGS was too good for this world.

[Anonymous No.7305193]

>>7305171
Ion Fury is great like every BUILD game. If you disagree, you suck dicks.

[Anonymous No.7305198]

>>7305192
Only pseuds like LGS games.

[Anonymous No.7305202]

>>7305184
Poo Poo

[Anonymous No.7305205]

>>7305193
>>7305198

Yeah whatever anons.

Sic transit gloria mundi

[Anonymous No.7305208]

>>7305192
On top of everything else in it being amazing, I think it's the most atmospheric game I've played.
>>7305171
>Fury shat on
That was nothing but Shelly bitching.

[Anonymous No.7305215]

>>7305208
>That was nothing but Shelly bitching.

I participated in it, I like IF but Shelly is shit.

That said now I believe in you guys there is a serious moron trying to always start shit. Up there something about gay killings.
Shitting on Thief.

Can you believe it? On THIEF.

[Anonymous No.7305221]

>>7305215
>I participated in it, I like IF but Shelly is shit.
I don't see her as anything more than "lady Duke" and that's all I needed her to be. Caleb is the only build protag I give a shit about, even though I consider Wang the funniest.

[Anonymous No.7305226]

>>7305215
kys alf

[Anonymous No.7305227]

>>7305226
Says alf.

[Anonymous No.7305238]

>the combat and controls are shit b-b-but the games are masterpieces
LGS fans everyone

[Anonymous No.7305250]

>>7305238
Yes they are unbelievable masterpieces, with a modding scene second only to doom.

[Anonymous No.7305294]

>>7305238
The controls are fine, and the combat is fine considering what you are: A thief, not a fighter.

[Anonymous No.7305296]

>>7305294
Are you kidding the movement in Thief is amazing.

[Anonymous No.7305298]

>>7305250
>with a modding scene second only to doom.
lmao

[Anonymous No.7305304]

>>7305130
honestly the dosbox thing is less about pure accuracy (which I appreciate don't get me wrong) and more running the game the way people did when they first fell in love with it so I can appreciate everything that comes later (feature heavy ports, custom mapping, etc.) with better context
yes I am vehemently autistic, I'll probably stick to chocodoom when it comes down to it

[Anonymous No.7305305]

>>7305298
Yeah unless you count skyrim cum inflation serana mods.

[Anonymous No.7305306]

so i suck at games in general, is there an autosave mod that actually works for doom? it sucks to die and have to play the whole level from the beginning.

>git gud
fuck off

[Anonymous No.7305315]

>>7305296
Yeah I agree.

Did you mean to reply to my post? Because I think Thief's great.

[Anonymous No.7305319]

>>7305306
How are you playing it? Dosbox or a sourceport?

[Anonymous No.7305320]

>>7305315
My god. So pretty.

If only dromed was not like trying to play chess in mittens with a sea lion.

[Anonymous No.7305321]

>>7305306
Why don't you just save between fights like a normal person?

[Anonymous No.7305331]

>>7305306
for gzdoom you have this

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59889

[Anonymous No.7305338]

>>7305331
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59889
this might work, thank you anon

[Anonymous No.7305339]

>>7305305
half life and quake modding scenes

[Anonymous No.7305350]

>>7305305
the source/goldsrc scene is absolutely titanic in its own right, half their mods became world famous standalone vidya with their own modding scenes
bethesda games, while inflated horrifically by shitty character presets and chinamen pumping out titty outfit ports is still nothing to shake a stick at

[Anonymous No.7305356]

>>7305350
I dont know, the scene in skyrim is gigantic. HL is big, and quake as well. But dont underestimate the amount of fan missions Thief has pumped of incredible quality.

[Anonymous No.7305407]

Anyone else bind Heretic items to hotkeys? It really makes using them a lot more convenient.

[Anonymous No.7305421]

>>7305407
I'll do it for specific items, but any game I play that has an inventory selection like that I'm always using Z and C to navigate and X to use.

[Anonymous No.7305428]

>>7305208
That skeleton looks cool. Where is he from?

[Anonymous No.7305441]

>>7305428
They're from Thief, spooky fast and evil fuckers.

[Anonymous No.7305454]

>>7303313
>cleanliness to 2016
Am I the only one who thinks Eternal's lore was a mess? I mean the Makyr just come across as some generic videogame alien to me, if you told me they were from a new Mass Effect or Halo I'd believe you. Sure they're based on angels but it just doesn't work for me.
If you just read a plot synopsis of the two games, 2016 still sounds like a retelling of classic Doom, while you read Eternal and it's all fake names.
>After retrieving a celestial locator from the Sentinel world of Exultia, the Slayer travels to Hell to retrieve a power source from a fallen Sentinel known as the Betrayer. He warns the Slayer that humanity's time has come before giving him the power source and a special dagger. VEGA directs the Slayer to a citadel in the Arctic where Deag Ranak has taken refuge, and the Slayer kills him after defeating his guardian Doom Hunters.
https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Doom_Eternal#Plot
I mean what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.7305464]

>>7305454
>Am I the only one
no, it's pretty widely agreed that eternal's lore was retarded and that the story was a huge step down from 2016

[Anonymous No.7305472]

>>7305454
Maykrs would've been more interesting if they were a surprise like "that's right, there's no such thing as Heaven or Jesus" because you get the feeling they couldn't show off more traditional Heavenly elements, for a series whose original title looked like they were defying a certain status quo
>2016 still sounds like a retelling of classic Doom
I still believe this was supposed to be a pure reboot before making the Slayer the same Doomguy when his modelled face isn't even the true "HD Face" people expected for years
You look at stuff like mods, wads, even ugly HD models and realise that nobody takes the "Doomverse" more seriously than nerds that had enough free time and care for over 27 years
Even if the new games have cool ideas, most of it was clearly with a different mind from the ones behind low-tech shotguns or FIREBLU
I know "status quo" might be overused and misused here but that's how i feel with certain bits of the art style and lore

[Anonymous No.7305474]

i want Mr Friendly back.

[Anonymous No.7305490]

>7304929
>>7305215
They said the same thing about Tarkov in the last thread, they have some kind of hate-on for Russian devs, as if indie studios have any control over what goes on in their entire country.

[Anonymous No.7305492]

>>7305221
I didn't know that I needed Araki Caleb in my life, but surely enough....

[Anonymous No.7305493]

>>7305490
>indie
>publisher
pick one

[Anonymous No.7305505]

>>7304178
AFAIK, the only way to do this is complevel 2.
Boom and beyond "fix" the limit

[Anonymous No.7305515]

>>7305490
Its a weak bait anon. Not even fags on lgbt care.

[Anonymous No.7305517]

>>7305421
That's how I used to do it, and in something slower pace like Strife, it works, but I found it to be too clunky in the heat of battle with Heretic. (Of course, it didn't help that I was using bracket keys to navigate, and Enter to use it, lol).

[Anonymous No.7305524]

>>7305421
I have side buttons on my mouse, so I use them to scroll inventory, and middle mouse to use

[Anonymous No.7305543]

>>7305407
>>7305421
>using Z and C to navigate and X to use
Same, except I picked "F" for using. "X" is flying down.
>>7305441
Nice. Planning to get my hands on frist two Thief games after dealing with some other games in my Steam library that I got and ignored for way too long (that's why I'm replaying Heretic now, but this time don't wanna ignore bonus episodes). Never really looked into them until Civvie made a series about first game, which got me hooked up. Is this specific pic a fan art, texture or what? I just enjoy this kind of portraits from time to time.
May I ask then what the issue with the third one? I never really looked into it, but considering that majority of people ignores Deadly Shadows, I suppose there's a reason for that.
>>7305454
>Am I the only one who thinks Eternal's lore was a mess?
No... Honestly, it just didn't bother me when I looked at the game on YouTube and Twitch. Devs were saying how they wanna build DOOM universe, even though they're clearly self-aware regarding the mess they've wrote and I respect that.
Linking Doom Fandom instead of Doom Wiki.
Yeah, what the fuck?
>>7305472
>Maykrs would've been more interesting if they were a surprise
id Software really should've hold them on instead of revealing them too early during the promotion of the game.
>you get the feeling they couldn't show off more traditional Heavenly elements
Because they can't. Imagine what kind of shitshow some Christians would've got if it was Heaven instead of Urdak? Although I do wonder who would've taken Kan Maykr's place. Jesus?

[Anonymous No.7305545]

>>7304331
>>7305130
>>7305304
A warning about MBF: it changes monster infighting behavior to make them less stupid, and as a result, monster infighting becomes harder.

In terms of actually playing the game and how the game looks and sounds, the only difference between Chocolate Doom and DOSDoom is the MIDIs. Chocolate Doom will use your MIDI player or the digital music packs, and DOS uses soundblaster.

If you're gonna play the IWADs, go for it, but for your first custom map pack, I recommend Scythe, which also runs in DOS

[Anonymous No.7305549]

Is he right, PCbros?
>>7303708
>>7303518
>>7301913

[Anonymous No.7305552]

>>7305543
>Is this specific pic a fan art, texture or what?
Oh that up there is just a fan art.
For what its worth this is a custom level.

[Anonymous No.7305553]

>>7304518
>69
nice

[Anonymous No.7305554]

>>7305549
Depends, seems biased, let met tell you I was there to compare both and Quake 2 in a voodoo2 was still much more impressive than anything in consoles for years to come.

[Anonymous No.7305559]

>>7305543
>if it was Heaven instead of Urdak
Darksiders pulled it off.
Interestingly, D2 has the same "problem" as Eternal where they expanded the lore beyond the biblical setting and it's awkward occasionally. I really liked D2 though.

[Anonymous No.7305563]

>>7305543
>Although I do wonder who would've taken Kan Maykr's place. Jesus?
Or some made up angel cyborg
Like how Doom has the Cyberdemon
Cyberangel?
Angel Mastermind?

[Anonymous No.7305567]

Final Doom or Doom 3 next to play?

[Anonymous No.7305568]

>>7304913
>>7305070
>burnout
>7 years
Holy shit, Diablo 1 was like 6 months of crunch time, and D2 was maybe 1-2 years. Imagine seven.

[Anonymous No.7305570]

>>7305543
You could have picked some one better than civvie for Thief. His vids are half hearted. Thief is not his jam.

Thief fan missions reach some epic level artistry at points. I am glad I saw the community at its peak.

[Anonymous No.7305571]

>>7305454
the fake names are generally comprehensable in game, that basically translates to
>doomguy got a gps for his spaceship in space viking-rome land and needed a battery from some edgy dude who betrayed the space knights and sulks in hell now, he broods but gives you the battery and a knife anyway, then you go to kill a hell priest in a snow level
it's still a clusterfuck don't get me wrong but the codex shit replacing the more straightforward telling because of wiki autism does it no favors
I will say as meh as the makyrs were I did love the sound design of and the general uncanny aesthetic of cyber-heaven also fun to see the designers blatantly saw some 3d printing during development and were just desperate to incorporate it
and really REALLY hated retconning hayden into a boddy hopping angel guy who gave doomguy his new powers, should've just been a robot CEO dude with a redemption arc as your new siri

[Anonymous No.7305572]

Playing Back to Saturn 1. How do I reach those items? I think I've humped all the walls in the map already.

[Anonymous No.7305573]

>>7305559
D2 with that soundtrack was a game that almost reached god status.

And Death is cool as fuck.

Sadly the franchise seems pretty dead.

[Anonymous No.7305574]

>>7305567
Do you really expect anyone to say 3 first?

[Anonymous No.7305581]

How much viable for Quake is binding the movement keys to the numpad like in this vid compared to WSAD?
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk3YSHQ8q2E&t=7m35s

[Anonymous No.7305582]

>>7305571
Hayden and VEGA being Seraphin and God has a problem when you realize Humanity has too much to do with Heaven, similar to how they explained the story behind most demons you fight
It's why i prefered when Hell was this messy looking dimension and demons were responsible for their own armies instead of relying on UAC, Maykrs or Sentinel
Not even just a matter of independence, but also potential mystery, specially for supposed supernatural entities
Then again, the art direction with the unified chittin aesthetic and all doesn't help either

[Anonymous No.7305584]

>>7305549
He's as right as saying trespasser was revolutionary which it was.

[Anonymous No.7305592]

>>7304269
Name ONE game Civvie shitted on.

[Anonymous No.7305607]

>>7305582
I do like the idea that a bunch of demons are getting jacked up with UAC tech since they're so blatantly the instigators of the invasion this time, but it should've been more like the hell and dread knight variation instead of ubiquitous
and yeah, they may be overexplaining things a bit much and compensating with even more batshit plot like you were satan all along, mirror match time

[Anonymous No.7305613]

>>7305552
Neat. Thanks.
>>7305559
>Darksiders pulled it off.
Didn't knew that since I don't know much about Darksiders. I guess id just decided to be both creative and safe "just in case".
>>7305563
I would rather pick Cyberangel then as Spider Mastermind was already used in DOOM 16.
>But Cyberdemon was there too!
Yeah, but I think Cyberangel can be more creative... Don't know what Angel could fit in such a role and who Seraphim would've been there, but those can always be an OG characters.
>>7305568
I doubt it was exactly like that, but I can't say for sure. It was tough for sure.
>>7305570
It's just that I saw him releasing a video about Thief and decided to take a look. I've been enjoying his videos, but I think I see where you're coming from. I'm always open for someone new in that sphere. Maybe Mandalore, I don't know.
Look nice, even though I'm not really into mods nowadays for some reason. I still have most of Arcane Dimensions waiting for me to play.
>>7305592
Not him, but Hexen. I don't mind its puzzle/switch hunting as much as some people do, including Civvie.

[Anonymous No.7305620]

>>7305607
Another thing about cybernetic demons is when you look at the themes of classic Hell and realize Hell might as well be shitting on mankind over tech
Considering how demons are associated with medival shit because of how people view them back then, Hell somehow having tech all along would be demons adjusting to the future
Doom 4 even had its Hell Guardian being made as a "demon for dinosaurs"
As if Hell exists before time and could change shape to fuck up with people from different eras and even cultures
Satan being Doomguy would make more sense if it was Satan saying "fuck it" and deciding to become your ultimate nemisis
Him apparently being that all along adds another layer of "special all along" to Doomguy that shouldnb't be there
The idea of Satan "parodying" you would make more sense
That and how they still didn't get his face right is another problem
Also, i do like if the UAC wanted to make cybernetic demons or even robots pretending just to infiltate and fight against Hell before it backfires, due to Hell corruption
Same if even humans were cybernetic, since that could be possible in the setting

[Anonymous No.7305625]

Which setup will prevent the blockmap bug from occuring more frequently in this arena battle vs mancubi?

Right side has three blockmap lines in the room, but two of them are hopefully close enough to the walls that the centers of the wide mancubi will rarely go into the gridsquares on the edges. Maybe I could use the setup on the right, and make the room more narrow to guarantee they will never enter the edge squares. Visually it might look harder but it should actually make the room easier by making more SSG shots connect

[Anonymous No.7305628]

>>7305613

One of my biggest beef with eternal is not the vomit of colors and gameplay with floating one ups.

Its the very half assed Darksiders tier attempt of world building. I dont think it meshes well with Doom at all.

But I guess they didn't want to go Horror again.

Thief fan missions are many times higher quality than main campaign stuff.

[Anonymous No.7305647]

Shit, correcting for blockmap lines throws off the center of my flats. I might need a new flat, or I can reshape this room

[Anonymous No.7305654]

>mapping contest
when was this thrown around? I think we need another community project. Any concepts? don't say nu-plutonia/vanilla d2 or I'll fucking kill you I'm not even joking.

[Anonymous No.7305656]

I noticed the blockmap lines change as I expand the map, so I put these blank sectors in the four corners to lock the blockmap lines in place so I can correct for them

[Anonymous No.7305659]

Doom 3 is literally the black sheep of the franchise.
get it? because it's dark.

[Anonymous No.7305668]

>>7305656
Heh, the bit of map on the left looks like a robot

[Anonymous No.7305669]

Also, just in case anyone missed it, here is a video explaining the blockmap bug

https://youtu.be/-IYz6-KnvWU

[Anonymous No.7305670]

>>7305647

[Anonymous No.7305680]

>>7305647
How bad blockmap really is? I know the idea, but I don't think it really happened to me often enough to care.

[Anonymous No.7305717]

>>7305670
:O big brain idea

>>7305680
It's fucking brutal when you're in a lock-in arena with four mancubi and all you have is SSG and instead of 3-shotting each of them, it can take 4 or 5 shots. 6 is my record

[Anonymous No.7305742]

i REALLY like the sound corvus makes when he picks up a weapon

[Anonymous No.7305770]

>>7305742
90s were so based even elves were manly.

[Anonymous No.7305824]

>>7303221
>he didn't find the secret terminal in the 3rd level

[Anonymous No.7305836]

>>7305742
https://youtu.be/WutiLdep27Q

[Anonymous No.7305887]

Sigil is not official
Machine Games fifth quake episode is not official
Alien World Order is official.

[Anonymous No.7305904]

>>7305887
ok cool tthanks

[Anonymous No.7305934]

Deus Ex is overrated.

[Anonymous No.7305970]

>>7305934
Isn't the first one the only good one?

[Anonymous No.7305990]

>>7305970
Human Revolution is nearly perfect, not /vr/ quite yet though.
I've heard good things about Mankind Divided but not played it, Steam reviews are surprisingly mixed.

[Anonymous No.7306000]

>>7305934
not true
>>7305990
not retro

[Anonymous No.7306004]

>>7306000
>not retro
>>7305990
>not /vr/ quite yet though.
Trips wasted on the illiterate.

[Anonymous No.7306014]

>>7305990
Mankind Divided is basically the same gameplay wise, but has only one hub and terrible plot. Would not recommend.

[Anonymous No.7306024]

>>7305654
What do you have against Plutonia?

[Anonymous No.7306028]

Playthrough video of map28 of 2048 units of /vr/ is up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD60DK9VN1c

[Anonymous No.7306035]

>>7305669
>>7305680
>>7305717

>This bug, which no doubt many players are familiar with, is a result of the original exe (and many current ports) only using the center of a thing to determine if it was in a block and not taking its entire radius into account. It was fixed in ZDoom, however this alters the gameplay by making actors easier to hit.

i had no idea this was thing

[Anonymous No.7306040]

>>7305654
>he's not a Doom 2 chad

[Anonymous No.7306045]

>going through these marathon sites
Damn this shit is making me nostalgic for a game and time I wan't really part of

[Anonymous No.7306047]

how does doom 64 steam release compare to doom 64 ex?

[Anonymous No.7306064]

>>7306040
>>7306024
I'm not saying they're not good I'm just sick of the concept of Doom 2 but different/Plutonia Super Saiyan 3 without anything new/conceptually different being done with it

[Anonymous No.7306084]

What's the best way to play the PSX version?

[Anonymous No.7306091]

>>7304178
>>7305505
Vanilla and Limit-Removing maps are the only ones enforcing the Lost Souls limit. If you're mapping for Boom/MBF then infinite Souls are part of the package.

[Anonymous No.7306098]

>>7306091
Why do you want infinite lost souls?

[Anonymous No.7306103]

I just finished Scythe for the first time and quite like the style of the maps. What are some other wads like it?

[Anonymous No.7306109]

>>7306084
On an actual Playstation

[Anonymous No.7306231]

>>7306109
i meant emulated

[Anonymous No.7306240]

>>7306084
psydoom

[Anonymous No.7306259]

>>7306028
You die now.

[Anonymous No.7306269]

>>7306240
what about Playstation Doom TC?

[Anonymous No.7306292]

>>7305572
Try going back to the beginning and taking all the paths, if I recall there might be another segment of the level that has a cave u have to take

[Anonymous No.7306307]

>>7303172

[Anonymous No.7306312]

>>7305572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9oIKnZrx2g

[Anonymous No.7306316]

>>7306047
The new release looks vastly better, and in general you're gonna wanna use the new one. The only reasons you will need to use EX is to play custom maps that can't run in the new release.

One thing that the new release mimics is the texture filter on the N64
>inb4 texture filter
I like it because it looks like the N64, similar to how I like no texture filter on the original Doom so that it looks like original Doom

The new release does NOT have things like in-game map stats (kills/secrets/items) because the N64 version did not, nor does it have vertical mouse look, unlike EX.

>>7306103
Glaive 2 is a short set of maps modeled after Scythe, that also only use stock Doom 2 textures. It's like 7-ish maps. I haven't played Glaive 1 so maybe try that, too. I rank Glaive 2's difficulty somewhere in between Scythe episode 2 (maps 11-20) and episode 3 (maps 21-30).

Valiant also follows the formula of short levels, but it's not one of those comfy old-school wads at all, if that's what you're looking for

If you still want more old school style stuff first, there is Base Ganymede from 2012, which is a vanilla-compatible Doom 1 megawad. I think the level/sector architecture in that megawad is superb

[Anonymous No.7306319]

>>7306103
Scythe 2

[Anonymous No.7306334]

>>7306307
DARE YOU ENTER HIS MAGICAL .WAD?

[Anonymous No.7306372]

>join Q3A CTF server
>claims to have about a dozen players
>both teams just have a single bot in play
>everyone else is just spectating
What is going on here? Is this one of those machine learning things that people have done with this game's CTF?

[Anonymous No.7306392]

>>7306372
I know exactly what server you're talking about. I have no fucking clue why that is.

[Anonymous No.7306404]

>>7306372
I don't get it either

[Anonymous No.7306414]

>>7301940
https://theforceengine.github.io/2021/01/18/TFE-Update-2021-Plans.html

[Anonymous No.7306425]

>>7306372
It's a Bosnian thing. You bet on a bot, if it loses, you have to do a round of Russian roulette. I've also seen the variant where loser cuts off his finger, but they only do it with MM8BDM.

[Anonymous No.7306498]

Remember when Doom II btfo System Shock and then Marathon finished the job.

[Anonymous No.7306517]

>>7306498
yeah okay cool thanks

[Anonymous No.7306527]

He is here

[Anonymous No.7306546]

>>7306498
>btfo
the only thing doing the blowing here was Marathon aka Halo alpha

[Anonymous No.7306556]

>>7306546
compare the ss1 story to marathon's and the lgs game loses badly.
Also the controls suck.

[Anonymous No.7306598]

>>7306556
>LE BTFO! MUH OPINOIN IS FACT!
Get the Fuck out of here Maddox.

[Anonymous No.7306628]

>>7305717
>He uses emoticons
Based! :D

[Anonymous No.7306630]

>>7306598
Maddox was kino until he fucked a tranny

[Anonymous No.7306638]

>>7306630
didn't he try to sue some guy for making fun of him but even the court was like "i can't deny his accusations of you being a cuck" or something?

[Anonymous No.7306653]

>Brutal Doom
>Zen Dynamics
>Sin Incarnate
Which one did the "giant IOS in classic Doom" better?
Or least worst at least.

[Anonymous No.7306691]

>>7306630
based

[Anonymous No.7306729]

>>7306098
There are benefits to no limit. Like being able to place as many Lost Souls as you like in a map that also has Pain Elementals.
I do wish source ports didn't outright remove the limit completely, though. Would've preferred if they just made it so pre-spawned lost souls no longer count, and then maybe have the limit increase from 21 to something higher if theres more than a certain amount of PEs

[Anonymous No.7306751]

>>7306414
That's so dope. I've never heard of this before. Thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous No.7306759]

https://vittorioromeo.info/quakevr
thoughts bros?
I've been playing it and I'm having an absolute blast

[Anonymous No.7306791]

>>7304410
Share your maps loser, get feedback. Noones going to bully you for making an amateur map. The only one person stopping you from creating is you and your insecurities.

But shitting on your own work is okay.

[Anonymous No.7306794]

>>7306759
Damn, wish I knew this existed before I got rid of my Rift S. Fuck cuckerberg

[Anonymous No.7306804]

>>7306759
>>7306794
looks really good btw

[Anonymous No.7306819]

>finally stop being lazy and filtered all the shitposting buzzwords

>thread improves tremendously

[Anonymous No.7306820]

>>7306498
uhh no cause it never fucking happened
>>7306638
yeah, he tried to sue dick masterson

[Anonymous No.7306821]

>>7304410
Just post it. People will post criticism, but only trolls will actually mock it. Even if people do mock it, who cares? You're anonymous here. This isn't DW or ZDF. The first step is the hardest, but you just have to make. Just make a map and post it. It's that simple. You'll get a lot of feedback, you'll get to learn the tools better, and you'll improve. There's nothing to lose.

[Anonymous No.7306828]

>>7302834
>ywn play Maclo

[Anonymous No.7306843]

When are we going to do another quake mapping event like HUH?
that was fun

[Anonymous No.7306989]

>>7306819
Can you give me a list of your filters?

[Anonymous No.7307071]

Was anyone ITT around to play multiplayer FPS on dial-up? Was it as painful as browsing on it? The first game I played online was Battlefield 1942 and that was after I got broadband so I never got to experience gaming on dial-up.

[Anonymous No.7307083]

>>7307071
I played a lot of AvP2 on dial-up. It was actually pretty good.

[Anonymous No.7307150]

>>7306064
>the concept of Doom 2 but different/Plutonia Super Saiyan 3 without anything new/conceptually different being done with it
What do you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.7307160]

>>7304372
>>7304876
Thanks for the info boyos. Glad to see Babel get some love.

[Anonymous No.7307175]

>>7307083
Whats speeds did you get for your dial-up? My area basically capped out at 5/kbs if you were really lucky with the average being 2-4. FPS gaming felt out of the question

[Anonymous No.7307181]

>>7307071
I was in your boat. DSL 768kb right out the womb since my dad had dosh and was into the latest technology like most genuine boomers.

[Anonymous No.7307184]

>>7305306
If you're using ZDoom or any of it's variants, open the console with `. Type [bind f5 "save 'quick'"] without the brackets and press enter. Now pressing f5 will save your game.

[Anonymous No.7307208]

Pls help me playtest my map I've been working on

https://litter.catbox.moe/ngjxuj.zip

Limit-removing, tested in Crispy. PrBoom cl2

The map is for the D4V gameplay mod, which I haven't copy/pasted into my map yet, so I included it in the zip. Load D4V first, then my map, so that my custom music and demos get loaded.

I included some example playthroughs to help anyone getting stuck, but I'd say play it blind first. I included difficulties, so if you can't beat UV, try HMP, so it'll be balanced across all difficulties

Doom 4 Vanilla has some fancy brightmaps in software mode, so I recommend you use software mode in PrBoom/GZDoom, pic related

[Anonymous No.7307218]

>>7305221
Wasn't there a Korean manga based on Blood?

[Anonymous No.7307220]

>>7305306

[Anonymous No.7307229]

>>7305654
I'm still going to contribute to 94 Protons Of /vr/ when that happens.

[Anonymous No.7307247]

>>7305654
An anon many months ago now mentioned doing HUH 2: Electric Boogaloo. I'm going to try to get in on that as a fledgling Quake mapper. Here is HUH.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/huh_final.html

[Anonymous No.7307250]

>decide to replay marathon
>get to bob-b-q
>turn game off
>turn game back on
>get to colony ship for sale cheap
>turn game off

[Anonymous No.7307256]

>>7307218
It was Priest. It's pretty cool and the author has been real explicit about how much of an inspiration Caleb had been.

[Anonymous No.7307258]

>>7305306
Just use the quicksave bind.

[Anonymous No.7307274]

>>7305572
Theres a nearby shootable switch that opens up a teleporter in a nearby room you can dropoff to.

[Anonymous No.7307281]

>>7306316
The new 64 ports let you turn off the texture filtering, which I appreciate

[Anonymous No.7307297]

>>7307150
Vanilla mapsets, even adhering to a specific theme and style influencing them, tend to be limited by the inability to expand on gameplay introduced by Doom 2/Plutonia/TNT. While it does allow for creative flexing, working within existing textures and monsters to make something new and fresh, I personally find wads that change/add existing or new behaviours/weapons/monsters to be more refreshing/challenging

[Anonymous No.7307305]

>>7307297
So you want something like Valiant?

[Anonymous No.7307308]

>>7307297
Sure but if that's not what you want, make your own map or start up your own project with your own parameters. Bitching is unproductive.

[Anonymous No.7307320]

>>7307308
I mean, I'd just suck it up if everyone else was on board for whatever.

>>7307305
Basically

[Anonymous No.7307328]

>>7307320
>I mean, I'd just suck it up if everyone else was on board for whatever.
Why would you settle for that? What is the appeal of working with /vr/? The anonymity? The truth is veterans and newbies alike come and go, so /vr/ projects always have a mix, but the veterans invariably leave, so /vr/ projects can NEVER be too complex or it risks scaring newbies. If you want to flex your stuff, you're better off making your own maps. I don't want to see you bitching again otherwise. For your own sake that is.

[Anonymous No.7307330]

>>7307328
I like you all. Don't tell me what to do.

[Anonymous No.7307334]

>>7307330
>I don't want a simple map project
>The map projects are always going to be simple because the nature of anonymity means there will always be new mappers
>I mean I'll still do it
>Wtf was the point of the bitching then?
>I like you all. Don't tell me what to do.
You're a strange fella, but alright.

[Anonymous No.7307361]

Is the PS1 TC a good alternative?

[Anonymous No.7307364]

>>7307361
alternative to what anon? if you want some spookyness there are better methods

[Anonymous No.7307372]

>>7307334
If there's one place I can go to do pointless bitching about things I like its this website

[Anonymous No.7307382]

>>7307364
To play the ps1 version on not original hardware.

[Anonymous No.7307396]

I require more soundfonts, any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.7307440]

>>7307396
>RLNDGM
>Scc1t2
You already have all you need

[Anonymous No.7307442]

>>7307396
musyng kite and touhou.sf2 are my personal recs, I dug around and compiled the HD musyng for anons back in december since the forum links were dead.

https://mega.nz/file/tpASlJjT#WJWGQhKXolqdqMt39XtnNO-0ogyUAT8bv_Rcq_JGWEc

[Anonymous No.7307506]

*perforates u*

[Anonymous No.7307521]

>WAD has inconsistent nukige
name ONE thing worse about mods

[Anonymous No.7307528]

>>7306759
>tfw playing my own HUH made map in VR
This is so fucking cool

[Anonymous No.7307553]

>>7307521
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.7307563]

>>7307553
Green nukige floor hurts you on one level, but on a future level it doesn't for some reason. I guess it extends to every single floor that can damage you instead of just nukige, but FUCK if it doesn't piss me off when I can't trust which floor will hurt me and which one won't.

[Anonymous No.7307573]

>>7307563
a-anon. It's nukage.

[Anonymous No.7307576]

>>7307573
Whoops.
Doesn't change my point, though.

[Anonymous No.7307580]

>>7307576
the poop water has that problem too, fucking hate when you can't trust the mud.

[Anonymous No.7307587]

>>7307563
>Green nukige floor hurts you on one level, but on a future level it doesn't for some reason.
This is because liquid flats are not what determines whether it damages or not. And not every level calls for them to be damaging either. Sometimes a map uses green nukage because its green and works with the aesthetic the map is going for.
I can understand having an issue if its in the same level, because then the level isn't even following a consistent logic within itself (provided there arent textures that add context). But that isn't nearly as common.

[Anonymous No.7307592]

>>7307587
To add onto this, there are maps, for example some in Plutonia that has water flats that can kill you. Fucking water.

[Anonymous No.7307594]

>>7307071
A little. I mostly played MMOs on dialup and it was agonizing. The worst was when you got a call while in the middle of something, knowing your character was dead when you got back. And in the stuff I was playing, there was a much harsher punishment than in something like WoW.

[Anonymous No.7307602]

>>7307592
Theres also a couple maps in Doom 1 where even non-liquids are damaging, like those blue lights on the floor in E2M2 and E2M7

[Anonymous No.7307607]

>>7307573
lel
>>7307563
>>7307587
yeah that is wonky
>name ONE thing worse about mods
idk, baron spam is kind of booty. I don liek it.

[Anonymous No.7307610]

>>7307607
ment for this
>>7307580

[Anonymous No.7307754]

>>7306653
zen dynamics did a lot of things better, and I'm not saying this because I'm a hopeless xaser fanboy or anything

[Anonymous No.7307792]

it's pretty freaky watching decino beat tough maps on blind runs

[Anonymous No.7307818]

>>7307208
Very cool map, we need more D4V maps. I liked the theme and some of the ideas, but I think you can refine it a bit more.

Here's some honest feedback:

- The startan textures doesn't blend together with the D3 textures imo. Computers and pipes are fine.
- the player can lose the SSG just out of luck (by pressing the buttons on the wrong order). I would open the SSG closet by default to make the mancubi fight more bearable.
- the gun-switch to get the yellow key is way too cryptic. People will not going to shot the button if it's not a easily recognizable pattern (like the Sigil eye).
- I don't know how to beat the cyber-manc room (after the yellow door). Seems to be pure RNG rather the skill-based combat. Idk.
- the teleporting flat next to the berserk item is misaligned
- the cyber-manc setpiece is very cool, keep it. Again, the marble textures breaks the consistency with the D3 textures a bit, but that's not a big deal.
- Level layout seems to have the classic wolf3d "room-door-room" design, which is not very appreciated on the Doom community. If you try to make it more interconnected (with windows and open sectors connected with each other) you can improve the flow of your map. Additionally, you can have more height variance, both for monsters and players.
- there are no cool big arenas or open areas where you can run and kill plenty of monsters. That would be a very nice setpiece for a D4V map in my opinion.

Overall it's a very nice map with good ideas and good monster usage, but the layout can be better. I'm looking forward for this anon. Keep it going!

[Anonymous No.7307912]

>>7307208
I've never played D4V before, but holy shit are the Mancibus unfun to fight against.

[Anonymous No.7307963]

>>7307573
>inconsistent nukige
he's just troubleshooting h-doom

[Anonymous No.7308016]

>hdoom
>all monsters are anime girl
>excep revenants
Is this because they are already boners?

[Anonymous No.7308118]

>playing through 2048 units of /vr/, thinking that the maps are mostly ok but expecting something impressive for the grand finale
>reach map29

Wow, that was an excellent experience, really hard but still enjoyable and with great fights.

[Anonymous No.7308138]

>>7307602
I actually like that about Doom 1, it adds an extra bit of character to the maps when done sparingly. Like the giant inverted cross at the start of E2M1 that's so evil it literally hurts you, or the blue lights you mentioned which are probably meant to be radioactive or electrified.

[Anonymous No.7308149]

>>7302191
In retrospect, were portals better than BSP?

[Anonymous No.7308161]

Greetings from /co/
https://vocaroo.com/1mJGwvW6snC5

[Anonymous No.7308170]

>>7308118
t. Eggplant

[Anonymous No.7308206]

>>7308170
Dunno who that is but the map is doom LUDO. And after finishing the 32 maps of the project I can say that it was by far the best map of the wad.

[Anonymous No.7308220]

>>7308118
Black Crest really is the finest level in 2048, I think. Hope you'll enjoy Map 30 as well.

[Anonymous No.7308224]

>>7307818
Thank you for your feedback!
>I don't know how to beat the cyber-manc room (after the yellow door). Seems to be pure RNG rather the skill-based combat
This is one of the things I was afraid of - the monster behavior is all new, so things can come across as impossible and frustrating.

The way you beat that room is SLOW circle strafing. Their projectiles themselves do very little damage, I think 10, but the explosion itself will rock you. So you get up close, facetanking projectiles if need be (but not explosions), then you have the entire back half of the room as one large semi-circle to 'circle-strafe.' It's the exact same principle as the lava room but no lava. Yes you can sometimes get fucked and surrounded. I could add more plasma to melt them faster? The original room had 4 cybermancs and SSG only lol, same with with lava room, but I felt that was too extreme if you didn't know their behavior

Also, in case you haven't, watch the demos, the first two are on UV and show how to clear that room (and every room). The third demo strangely gets an integer overflow, I think a problem that occurs more frequently when using D4V

>I would open the SSG closet by default to make the mancubi fight more bearable
OK. I will make it such that the player cannot access the 4-manc-room without SSG. My idea with the items behind switches is that, I hate picking up items accidentally and wasting them, so I put the items in little niches so you don't do that. That the same idea with the health/armor bonuses - it's impossible to waste those items, unless you already have 200 somehow

> good ideas and good monster usage, but the layout can be better.
Ye all I had were ideas for cool battles, but no idea how to link them together, especially that ugly lift room

>make it more interconnected (with windows and open sectors connected with each other) you can improve the flow of your map
WINDOWS. YES. I'll add some hallways and windows, and the obligatory secret to get outside

[Anonymous No.7308235]

>>7308220
The Icon of Sin fight was kind of silly because the cyberdemon instantly started to infight one of the monsters who was behind him so after two or three safe point-blank BFG shots the way was clear to quickly do the switch loop until the boss died. But I can't think of any way to make a cool Icon of Sin fight in such a small space so eh, and at least it was over quickly which is nice because most MAP30 fights take forever and suck ass.

[Anonymous No.7308257]

>>7308235
I wanted to do *something* different, and I figured a repeated gauntlet would make for an ok climax. Did you like how it looked at least?

[Anonymous No.7308270]

>>7308161
lmao saved

[Anonymous No.7308285]

>>7308257
Yeah, aesthetics-wise most of the maps were great.

[Anonymous No.7308302]

>>7307396
could you share that, kind sir?

[Anonymous No.7308314]

>>7308302
Are you sure about that?

[Anonymous No.7308317]

>>7308314
you could make a torrent, I don't think I'm the only one interested

[Anonymous No.7308324]

>>7308224
>OK. I will make it such that the player cannot access the 4-manc-room without SSG. My idea with the items behind switches is that, I hate picking up items accidentally and wasting them
You can make it optional as long as you put the item on a easily visible place. The fact that it's hidden behind a closet is the real problem, as the player can only get it out of luck.

>Ye all I had were ideas for cool battles, but no idea how to link them together, especially that ugly lift room
The level design is basic because it's just doors and corridors. A good tip is getting rid of some of them and increase the size of some rooms to give more freedom of movement to players and enemies. Open it up a bit, mix heigher places with lower ones, try to connect rooms more naturally (without doors in-between), etc. The map already have a lot of tight rooms, so maybe a large arena-like fight would help.

>WINDOWS. YES. I'll add some hallways and windows, and the obligatory secret to get outside
Yeah, that's a good idea as well

[Anonymous No.7308338]

>>7308285
What would you have suggested for improvements for Map 30? Or for that matter Map 28?

[Anonymous No.7308358]

>>7307818
>The startan textures doesn't blend together with the D3 textures imo
I can't even remember when the last time was that I produced art, maybe drawings from years ago, so I'll suck at making stuff look good, but hopefully that means I'll improve quickly. I gotta put in the time and look at all the textures

>the gun-switch to get the yellow key is way too cryptic. People will not going to shot the button if it's not a easily recognizable pattern (like the Sigil eye).
I originally added the shootable switches so that my level wouldn't be beatable pacifist, or so that you can't cheese the traps. I'm gonna remove the shootable switches, and add a cybermancubus in the cage by the lava - he will blast the zombies if you don't kill him, clearing the way to beat the level pacifist. It'd be hilarious to see a stroller run (pacifist with no running/strafing allowed). I'll probably need to narrow the lava gaps so you can cross walking

>there are no cool big arenas or open areas where you can run and kill plenty of monsters. That would be a very nice setpiece for a D4V map in my opinion.
Maybe in another level. I think I want to wrap this level up so that I don't use up all my ideas in one level, plus I like short, challenging levels, and I think one more arena will make the difficulty even more extreme and require even further nerfs to make it playable

[Anonymous No.7308383]

>>7308324
>The fact that it's hidden behind a closet is the real problem
>hidden
:( I tried to make it obvious, but I'll change it

>The level design is basic because it's just doors and corridors. A good tip is getting rid of some of them and increase the size of some rooms to give more freedom of movement to players and enemies.
All of the difficulty of this level comes from the lock-in arenas; open the doors and you can peek-a-boo shoot everything with the SSG. I can add open areas in the form of wide hallways in between the fights. It may sound silly but I'll have to spend time designing hallways and looking at maps to come up with ideas, since this is the art-side and not the combat-side

>maybe a large arena-like fight would help
What do you think about the final room with the rocket launcher? I designed that section to teach the player that the cyber-manc is immune to rockets. The normal mancs die in 3-4 shots but the cyber ones die in like 9 rockets

[Anonymous No.7308385]

>>7308338
Not him but I'll play maps28 and 30

[Anonymous No.7308409]

>Half life ruined everything argument
That reminds me, I played quake 2 a while ago and it feels like this is the actual game that began the trend. Fairly linear environments , and you have a computer constantly telling you what to do and where to go, lest it eternally annoys you with COMPUTER UPDATED
Half life just refined a formula defined by quake 2 into something with a much more enjoyable story.

[Anonymous No.7308412]

>>7305454
The lore is bad but ignorable, what annoys me is that doomguy now lives in a Fortress Of Midlife Crisis.

[Anonymous No.7308454]

>>7303668

I put together this little office kind of room for R1M3.

Be sure to check the filing cabinet if you want to get to the secret.

[Anonymous No.7308459]

>>7308338
Map28

A lot of the kills just feel like filler material, you know what I mean? Like just holding left click while I move from room to room. This was way different when the cyberdemon spawned sooner. I remember when the cyberdemon was there much earlier and you had to use the moving pillars as cover, and the enemies effectively blocked your movement. THAT was a good gimmick. The level got de-fanged IMO

Spiderdemon section is just you waitin around for it to get crushed

After the spiderdemon, down to the cyberdemon - the stairs are too narrow for the monsters to get to you, so you just peekaboo shoot to clear that section, pic rel. Also he's tagged as deaf so he doesn't wake up. I think the monsters should not bother you until you get to the cyberdemon/arena fight, because the peekaboo stuff just feels like filler material. Maybe the monster closets only open once you get inside the cyberdemon room and start blasting

The final room with the BFG was underwhelming - imagine that same section but with rocket launcher only. I would put arch-vile + rockets section first, and cyberdemon + BFG section as finale

[Anonymous No.7308463]

forgot pic

[Anonymous No.7308490]

*blocks your path*
*literally just stands directly in your path as you're shooting down a tight corridor*

[Anonymous No.7308493]

>>7302386
>look up author of mod to see if they have more stuff
>find their Deviantart
>FEETFEETFEETFEETFEET

[Anonymous No.7308498]

>>7308459
Those are good points. I've honestly never been fully satisfied with Map28, it was pretty shit initially, and while I feel I addressed some glaring flaws, I was never sure all the changes were improvements.
The progression I think is kind of lame too, with how there's just short paths with backtracking.

I'll just have to do better with future maps.

[Anonymous No.7308501]

>>7308493
The gameplay makes it very obvious they're a foot fetishist, for christ's sake you can look down and see the character's feet.

[Anonymous No.7308505]

>>7308490
>AAAAH
>THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
>AHHHHHHHH
>THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
>AAAAAHHHH
>AAAHHHHHHHHH
>THEY'RE EVERYWHERE

[Anonymous No.7308509]

>>7308459
woops I think I misspoke
>the stairs are too narrow for the monsters to get to you
> I think the monsters should not bother you until you get to the cyberdemon/arena fight
EITHER make the stairs wider to the monsters walk up the stairs to turn that section into a battle-zone, OR lock up those monsters in the monster closet and open it once you engage the cyber

You don't even need to engage the cybie to leave, he only woke up as I stopped to take a pic

The level looks great, the central cyberdemon platform looks cool, and the two-arch-viles-room is especially well done

[Anonymous No.7308521]

>>7308509
>I think the monsters should not bother you until you get to the cyberdemon/arena fight
That's something I think I got told the opposite on in the past, people saying the monsters shouldn't stay in there and be tagged for Ambush, which they were before.

Or, that's what my memory tells me.

[Anonymous No.7308529]

>>7305581
Aby do you ask this, you dont have a dedicated number keypad on your laptop or something?

[Anonymous No.7308548]

>>7308338
MAP28: The demons that show up at the start with the barons can't go down the stairs (I don't know if this is a GZDoom issue). The archviles are too easy to cheese if you hide behind one of the wooden pillars to reposition them/get a free shot, they should wake up earlier IMO. The archvile that shows up after that part is pointless since there's no way it can hit the player given he's stuck up there. The hallway that comes up after that is full of pointless zombies which serve no purpose besides giving out ammo. I assume the idea was to force the player to escape from the archvile that's up the stairs but you can bodyblock him, wait until he attacks you, go down until the attack stops, go up shoot at him until he attacks again, repeat etc so it becomes another pointless monster. The mastermind section is a complete waste of time. Now the player gets a BFG and the surprise is... more zombies?! Why? They should have been revenants at the very least.
The last room has a fatal flaw which makes it completely non-threatening: you are never stuck in it. In fact, I went outside, grabbed the attention of a couple of monsters, killed them, rinse and repeat until everything but the cybie was dead, and killing it was optional too because I could have run straight to the switch since you gave the player a BFG for no good reason. At the very least keep them locked in if you give them such a strong weapon. Anyway, after that you give them another BFG for some reason which is used to kill 3 archviles and a couple spectres. Yeah, no.

My suggestions would be 1. remove all the BFG from the map 2. replace the mastermind room with something else 3. lock the player into the cyberdemon room and 4. replace the badly used zombies with enemies that make more sense

[Anonymous No.7308552]

>>7308501
to be fair that's also a typical bit of ~technology~ flexing for fps games since it's extra work over just being a floating pair of arms with a gun

[Anonymous No.7308571]

map30

The level looks really cool.

This section with the up and down pillars is really good. This idea could be further explored with revenants (moving cover). Valiant did something similar in the 14 Angrier Archviles map where you have moving platforms as cover

The cyberdemon fight right after this was really stressful/exciting because of the moving cover but I got it first try

I got tele-rekt by the IOS just now.

I never beat this map before so I dunno how to beat the IOS

[Anonymous No.7308572]

Also, what was the criteria for the extra maps of 2048 units of /vr/? MAP05 was quite hard but also a lot better than most of the stuff in the main wad and map29 was harder anyway, so I don't see why it was put into that one instead.

[Anonymous No.7308578]

>>7308572
Check the text file. They were probably too big

[Anonymous No.7308608]

what's the latest version of slayer's testaments? i hate that modding is moving onto discord servers and shit, like we're going back to the garbage days of having to hang out on some faggot's irc for files

[Anonymous No.7308628]

>>7308608
>i hate that modding is moving onto discord servers and shit
Then make sure you never join those servers and always reupload mods from them to milk fag tears. I don't know what the latest version is either.

[Anonymous No.7308648]

I don't get it. My attacks are just hitting the wall

[Anonymous No.7308649]

https://twitter.com/SarkSweet/status/1114638294367780867

[Anonymous No.7308667]

>>7308548
>The demons that show up at the start with the barons can't go down the stairs (I don't know if this is a GZDoom issue).
I don't think there would have been enough space to give them wide stairs for them to descend from. That was kind of just the nature of me trying to fit too much into the cramped space allotted.

>The archviles are too easy to cheese if you hide behind one of the wooden pillars to reposition them/get a free shot, they should wake up earlier IMO.
What, do you mean? The wooden pillars there are so you can fight them without being blown away on the spot.

>The hallway that comes up after that is full of pointless zombies which serve no purpose besides giving out ammo.
Actually the zombies are there because I think it's fun to mow down piles of zombies with the bigger weapons (and the ammo). The Arch-Vile was a complete afterthought and not really related.

>The mastermind section is a complete waste of time.
True. I think I had some other ideas for the encounter but it didn't pan out.

>Now the player gets a BFG and the surprise is... more zombies?! They should have been revenants at the very least.
Probably.

>The last room has a fatal flaw which makes it completely non-threatening: you are never stuck in it. In fact, I went outside, grabbed the attention of a couple of monsters, killed them, rinse and repeat until everything but the cybie was dead, and killing it was optional too because I could have run straight to the switch since you gave the player a BFG for no good reason. At the very least keep them locked in if you give them such a strong weapon.
Good idea.

>Anyway, after that you give them another BFG for some reason which is used to kill 3 archviles and a couple spectres.
That last stretch was just me wanting to do something weird and unusual looking, and I just stuffed a bunch of monsters in there because I figured it shouldn't be empty.

It's an awkward map overall.

[Anonymous No.7308675]

>>7308571
You open that chamber where there's a Super Shotgun, then shoot that switch, then rinse and repeat. BFG may or may not work in GzDoom.

>>7308572
It varied, from being too big, to not being finished, or there not being space for them in the main set. I made 01 and 02 in the extras set, and I'm really glad they didn't make the cut because I don't think they're very good. I wasted an embarrassing amount of time on 01.

[Anonymous No.7308678]

>>7308648
You need to hurry before the shield covers up the big skull switch, otherwise you need to go back and hit the switch on the other side.

[Anonymous No.7308684]

you figure out what this image is

[Anonymous No.7308696]

>>7308675
01 only needed better gameplay, I feel you need a better understanding of how players will interact with your map. The golden rule is that if you give the player any leeway for them to cheese stuff, they will, so while playtesting try to think how you can exploit the encounters to make them easier or outright skip them.

[Anonymous No.7308716]

>>7308684
are those blood/hit sprites?

[Anonymous No.7308734]

>>7308716
correct

[Anonymous No.7308751]

Civvie's Half-Life episode is up on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/eH7bxHHJsy4

[Anonymous No.7308759]

The lava room looks really cool. It'd be better if you could fall in, and somehow the stairs need to be elongated so the barons can walk down them (monsters can't walk down stairs too short compared to their hitbox) and also widened to help the pinkies come down as well.

Also the wooden planks are cool. I wonder if something similar could be tiles with 1 map unit height

[Anonymous No.7308760]

>>7308751
>Half-Life: A Linear Sequence of Scares
Well he at least got that part righf

[Anonymous No.7308775]

>>7308751
>Half-Life is the Citizen Kane of video games
Come the fuck on

[Anonymous No.7308784]

>>7308775
:D

[Anonymous No.7308792]

>>7308751
>z-grade e-celebs
fuck outta here

[Anonymous No.7308803]

>>7308792
Civvie videos always get posted in these threads when they drop, lurk more

[Anonymous No.7308808]

>>7308751
>>7308775
>>7308784
I found it interesting that he basically said at the beginning of the video what Alfs argument is, that HL changed the FPS genre into being linear and story driven and that Civvie himself said he used to hold a grudge against it for that. But unlike Alf he moved on and realized it's a good game.

[Anonymous No.7308828]

>>7308803
>lurk more
I have a life, unlike you

[Anonymous No.7308836]

>>7308808
>I found it interesting that he basically said at the beginning of the video what Alfs argument is, that HL changed the FPS genre into being linear and story driven
You don't need to be alf to realize that. Half-life dumbed down the FPS genre, that's undeniable.

[Anonymous No.7308837]

>>7308808
Whatever fuck this retarded crippled faggot. He wishes he had taste as good as mine.

[Anonymous No.7308839]

>>7308828
Then what are you doing here?

[Anonymous No.7308842]

>>7308803
fuck off civvie drone

[Anonymous No.7308845]

>>7308836
Glad you agree, so why do you sperg out when I say it and not when he does?

[Anonymous No.7308849]

>>7308839
Bite me. I'm a tourist.

[Anonymous No.7308852]

refute this

[Anonymous No.7308856]

>>7308836
muh doom clones
everytime lol

[Anonymous No.7308854]

>>7308849
If you're just some outsider who isn't interested in sticking around or fitting in, why should we respect you?

[Anonymous No.7308859]

>>7308836
Well that's Alf's whole shtick isn't it? Repeating shit we all already accept and act like it's controversial to get a reaction.

[Anonymous No.7308862]

>>7308859
No one believes that shit>>7308852
only revisionist zoomers

[Anonymous No.7308863]

>>7308854
>we

[Anonymous No.7308867]

>>7308862
At the end of the day it's a pretty lukewarm take

[Anonymous No.7308868]

>>7308856
Nice argument dullard

[Anonymous No.7308871]

>>7308867
By people who don't shit

[Anonymous No.7308872]

>>7308854
>we
Speak for yourself e-celeb faggot.

[Anonymous No.7308876]

>>7308871
*know shit

[Anonymous No.7308879]

>>7308871
Honestly, Alf could take a stronger position on things. He basically acts like that kid who just discovered atheism and thinks everybody around him should know about it.

[Anonymous No.7308880]

>>7308852
Refute what? The retard is trying to compare HL with Ocarina of Time lol

[Anonymous No.7308881]

>>7308836
>Half-life dumbed down the FPS genre, that's undeniable.
Doom was for retards

[Anonymous No.7308883]

>>7308879
He's not wrong tho

[Anonymous No.7308884]

>>7308883
He is.

[Anonymous No.7308885]

>>7308775
I think he meant in the literal narrative sense and it's impact on the design of what came after, not the catchall "greatest of all time" thing the phrase "the Citizen Kane of..." had come to mean

[Anonymous No.7308889]

>>7308854
>we

[Anonymous No.7308891]

>>7308884
keep deluded

[Anonymous No.7308893]

>>7308883
Yeah, it's just that it's like having the slow kid on your team and he does all the talking, does a poor job representing the position. No nuance or understanding of game design.

[Anonymous No.7308894]

>>7308891
Keep seething an eceleb couldn't force your shitty narrative on normies.
You lost.

[Anonymous No.7308901]

>>7308836
It still had level variety going that also ranged from linear to non-linear with enemy types and encounters that reflected that. I don't think anything has dumbed down FPSs more than consoles and gamepads since the early 2000's

[Anonymous No.7308902]

>>7308161
this is so good. it sounds like a professional voice actor. for some reason, the image i get when i hear this voice is that of a hobbit

[Anonymous No.7308903]

>>7308881
>someone never played doom but believe on stupid memes about the game
I'm not impressed.

[Anonymous No.7308909]

>>7308901
>Half-life
>non-linear

[Anonymous No.7308910]

>>7308903
compared to UU it was.

[Anonymous No.7308913]

>>7308894
???
Stop projecting weirdo

[Anonymous No.7308914]

>>7308893
>>7308879
Drink my knob faggot. Where were all of you agreeing with me about this shit in the past since it's such a given? What strange revisionism.

[Anonymous No.7308916]

>>7308909
Blast Pit

[Anonymous No.7308917]

>inb4 one whole new thread of buttblasted alfposting because cripple talked about his favourite game

[Anonymous No.7308918]

>again
i swear this has to be intentional
i'm going to /cm/ shota threads and listen to akatsuki records stack until this is over

[Anonymous No.7308919]

Every boomer i know loved HL1
Only zoomers believe it killed fps.
FACT

[Anonymous No.7308920]

Is this the Civvie Effect? Zoomers instantly adopting a viewpoint and acting like we all had it forever?

[Anonymous No.7308921]

>>7308914
Didn't want to be associated with the kid who shits his pants. Broken clock is right twice a day.

[Anonymous No.7308923]

>>7308751
Nice reference to max payne.

[Anonymous No.7308924]

Based Civvie dabbing on HL haters.
They can't recover after this.
Now do one for Turok.

[Anonymous No.7308926]

>>7308909
You had your moments unlike this, the Gears games, and CoD, unless you consider the big empty spacious areas in Halo 1 that you can drive around "good non-linearity".

[Anonymous No.7308929]

>>7308836
HL takes too much of the blame, did unreal 1 or quake 2 did that much different?

It was going that way.

[Anonymous No.7308931]

maze level design can be garbage tho.

[Anonymous No.7308934]

>>7308921
Too cowardly to agree until Cripple 11 said it?

[Anonymous No.7308938]

>>7308929
Not really save for the start, Half-Life's start is just longer. That's pretty much it.

[Anonymous No.7308939]

Alf on suicide watch lol

[Anonymous No.7308941]

What a dogshit general
>MUH E-CELEB
>MUH LOCAL SCHIZO SHITPOSTER
Might as well be banished into a discord server

[Anonymous No.7308942]

>>7308863
>>7308872
>>7308889
Yes. We.

[Anonymous No.7308943]

>>7308934
Haven't watched the video yet. There's nothing to be cowardly about on an anonymous messageboard. Arguments were weak and it took an eceleb who can't walk to show you how to dougie.

[Anonymous No.7308947]

>>7308931
True. The best will always be contained worth exploring single levels, or something metroidvania like SS2.

>>7308938
If nothing else they had big ambitions for HL, and we got a very cut down version because pcs were shit.

Also HL soldiers will always be badass to me.

[Anonymous No.7308949]

Why HL fanboys take opinions about this game so seriously? Are you guys retarded or what?

[Anonymous No.7308954]

>>7308926
What killed fps was not even consoles.

It was not even Halo. It was venerable franchises having to squeeze themselves unnaturally into a console negative ram space.

[Anonymous No.7308956]

>>7308920
No, it's just Alf, or the guy pretending to be Alf, samefagging.

[Anonymous No.7308959]

>>7308931
>maze level design

[Anonymous No.7308960]

t. Alf on max damage control, entire narrative shattered because Civvie11 said basically the same thing and moved on.

[Anonymous No.7308961]

does the anon that asked me for this map still has the file?
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4800256/#q4801301

[Anonymous No.7308962]

>>7308942
It's amazing that someone who acts like they aren't a newfag is simultaneously committing one of the earliest and worst imageboard faux-pas without irony. Brainless faggot.

[Anonymous No.7308964]

>>7308552
there isn't a single instance in doom mods where having visible feet looks good. it's always hacky, tacky, and looks entirely out of place, not even matching the perspective.

[Anonymous No.7308965]

>>7308956
>still on denial

[Anonymous No.7308968]

>>7308910
UU is just a shitty and slow version of System Shock.

[Anonymous No.7308970]

Gonna replay HL1 now i guess.

[Anonymous No.7308974]

>>7308751
Is he really going to sell blog posts pn OnlyFans? Or was that a joke? Some people literally do sell shit like that on Patreon and other places and I bet some of his fans would actually pay for it.

[Anonymous No.7308979]

Doom ruined gaming lol
https://www.salon.com/2003/05/05/doom_2/

[Anonymous No.7308980]

>>7308970
Good for you Alfaghetti,

>Denial
Check
>Anger
Check
>Bargaining
Check
>Depression
Check
>Acceptance
Check, finally.

[Anonymous No.7308981]

>>7308854
Who's we?

[Anonymous No.7308983]

The fuck was that ramble about birth of nation in the beginning?

God fucking damn it civvie get a hold of yourself.

[Anonymous No.7308985]

>>7308980
not the schizo friend.

[Anonymous No.7308986]

>>7308949
HL fans are generally autistic

[Anonymous No.7308987]

>>7308983
Long term care homes are under a lot of stress and his SSW Katie isn't around enough, he's losing it.

[Anonymous No.7308989]

>>7308979
>literal pedo site

[Anonymous No.7308992]

>>7308985
Well I'll leave it there for him to see.

[Anonymous No.7309001]

>muh fanbase
nice argument alf

[Anonymous No.7309007]

>>7308837
I now imagine someone posting a video of him falling out of his wheelchair in a public area onto Instagram, Youtube, Bitchute, or liveleak.

[Anonymous No.7309008]

>>7308987
I am not even american.

The analogy would have worked better with a 1930s famous movie, and wolfenstein being a 1910s movie.

What a fucking fag. In any case his video on HL is on point. Just wish he did a better one on Thief. Maybe hes saving it for Thief 2.

He seems like a Thief 2 fag.

[Anonymous No.7309010]

>>7308986
All shit aside Alf has weak arguments and can not convey a coherent point, as stated above with full objectivity the amount of idiot HL/TF2/Gmod avatars on doomworld back this up pretty well.

[Anonymous No.7309013]

>>7308751
Is he really going to sell blog posts pn OnlyFans? Or was that a joke? Some people literally do sell shit like that on Patreon and other places and I bet some of his fans would actually pay for it.

[Anonymous No.7309015]

[Anonymous No.7309017]

>>7308257
i'm a different anon but i thought it was a great icon, one of my favorites to be honest.

[Anonymous No.7309025]

banning 00's shooters is not enough.
We have to remove the zoomers in the retro fps community too.

[Anonymous No.7309029]

>>7308989
I hate Salon too, with all its nonsensical hit pieces and feminist trash it pushes these days, along with the phishing it does to those who click links that direct to it, but pedos like NeoGAF and RetardEra?

[Anonymous No.7309031]

>>7308459
waaaaaaaaaaait black crest got defanged?

spiderdemon gets "crushed" ????

when did this happen ???????????????????????

[Anonymous No.7309035]

>>7309029
did you forget or just didn't witness their literal pro pedo articles?

[Anonymous No.7309038]

>>7309035
I didn't witness them.

[Anonymous No.7309042]

>>7309036
Oh I wasn't talking about that, just in general.
That whole Alf/DW stunt backfired hard for the guy and he's been playing damage control ever since.

[Anonymous No.7309043]

>>7309036
more like majority don't believe your bullshit.

[Anonymous No.7309046]

>>7309043
>everyone I don't agree is alf

[Anonymous No.7309051]

lmao Alf btfo

[Anonymous No.7309053]

>>7309046
>post retarded shit
>gets mad when people don't buy it

[Anonymous No.7309054]

>>7308964
yeah, but that won't stop autists
or footfags apparently

[Anonymous No.7309057]

>>7309051
I wonder where Leonard and the excavator protagonist from Exhumed would be...

[Anonymous No.7309062]

>>7309059
the irony

[Anonymous No.7309063]

>>7308981
https://youtu.be/RSAyz5c3JmM?t=117

[Anonymous No.7309068]

>>7309059
lol you're a trembling mess, aren't ye?

[Anonymous No.7309079]

>>7309017
Thanks. Which are others you like?

[Anonymous No.7309083]

>>7309031
No, anon, Black Crest is Map 29.

[Anonymous No.7309095]

>>7308552
>>7308964
>>7309054
This will never stop looking fucking hilarious to me. Duke Nukem style kicks are one thing, but this shit is just too goofy.

[Anonymous No.7309098]

>>7308929
Unreal had a lot of open explorable areas, and very few scripted events. As did Quake 2. They're pretty different, level design.

[Anonymous No.7309104]

>>7309098
and was still better than both games lol

[Anonymous No.7309110]

GIVE ME A WAD TO PLAY THROUGH YOU GODDAMN YOUTUBER SEMEN SLURPING MONGS

[Anonymous No.7309114]

>>7308751
>claims to know game like back of his own hand
>cant use tools at his disposal
>gets shredded left and right
>complains about jank while playing fucking steam version of the game
>gets filtered by xen
>every level that isnt straightforward shooting is bad
this is worse than his doom eternal video

[Anonymous No.7309116]

>>7309110
whisper of satan is p kewl

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/wos

[Anonymous No.7309119]

>>7309098
quake 2 is not that open anon.

[Anonymous No.7309121]

>>7309110
Here's a short but intense one:
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/nctmblst

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/megawads/ddamn0.9
Here's an E1/E2/E3 replacement with some new music and with some occasionally novel map design.

Have fun.

[Anonymous No.7309123]

>>7309095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qURei6svd90

[Anonymous No.7309124]

>>7309095
Haha oh my
It just doesn't work

[Anonymous No.7309130]

>>7309124
There's one where he crouches, too, but I can't find that one. Anyone else have it?

[Anonymous No.7309138]

next op image

[Anonymous No.7309163]

>>7309119
Fair enough. It has some optional paths, and looping path and such. But not super open. Still. Less scripted. Etc.
>>7309104
Disagree. Better than quake 2 imo tho.

[Anonymous No.7309185]

>he doesn't play the WON version because muh resolution

[Anonymous No.7309186]

>>7309138
>Made in UHU

[Anonymous No.7309189]

who is the nikocado avocado of doom modding?

[Anonymous No.7309197]

>>7309163
how's that much different to We got Hostiles, Blast Pit or Lambda Core?

[Anonymous No.7309209]

>>7309189
Terry

[Anonymous No.7309256]

>>7308836
leave drugs it's rotting your brain.

[Anonymous No.7309265]

Valiant>all

[Anonymous No.7309267]

>>7309083
holy shit lol, i've played through black crest multiple times and adore the map, no idea how i got scrambled on this

[Anonymous No.7309274]

>>7309265
valiant is good but imo its high point is "14 angry arch viles", the maps aren't as good after that point, and also become easier?

the lack of challenge in the later maps is a real bummer for me

[Anonymous No.7309276]

>>7303043
Doom was always a normie game. The only reason Doom 4 didn't make the same splash that others did was because Zenimax fucked up the marketing to the point where the only indication the game was any good was a Nvidia presentation.

[Anonymous No.7309281]

>>7309276
90's normies are not the same as 2010's normies
and this is even considering the innacurate visions people make up of doom, like they're enforcing it as a western touhou

[Anonymous No.7309285]

>>7309276
nuh uh doom was a deep smart maze game
Totally not linear.

[Anonymous No.7309287]

>>7309281
>western touhou

You are not wrong. I see this in other media.

The big old circle of translatio studii.

[Anonymous No.7309310]

>>7309256
stay mad fanboy

[Anonymous No.7309315]

>>7309310
ok schizo

[Anonymous No.7309327]

>>7309281
>90's normies are not the same as 2010's normies
Give 90s normies better computers, and phones with video cameras that connect to the Internet and you'd get the exact same shit. You just fell for shitposts from people still buttmad about being a mallgoth after columbine.

[Anonymous No.7309335]

>>7309276
>Doom was always a normie game.
You're claiming the series has always been chasing the big trends?

[Anonymous No.7309339]

>>7309110
Bauhaus

[Anonymous No.7309342]

>>7309110
What kind of wad do you like?

[Anonymous No.7309349]

>>7309335
You nailed it. Hence why I feel eternal so meh.

[Anonymous No.7309368]

>>7309110
Play Spankraght, it's pretty good.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/spankraght-tsditbotc/downloads/spankraght-for-doom-ii

[Anonymous No.7309373]

>>7308979
anyone got tl;dr, from the first few paragraphs it looks like a thief fanboy butthurt that id is more famous than looking glass/blue sky but it rambles like fuck

[Anonymous No.7309379]

>>7309373
Hipsterish shit. I love Thief as fuck, but I know very well immersive aspirations are nigh impossible. Doom is much more honest and effective.

[Anonymous No.7309383]

>>7309327
Smartphones and other cheap mobile internet devices are the worst and most destructive thing ever invented by humanity.

[Anonymous No.7309389]

>>7309383
>OLD GOOD NEW BAD
ugh you're one of those people

[Anonymous No.7309405]

>>7309379
>>7309373
why are you complaining lol
This is exactly what you sound when you say goldeneye, half life, cod, halo, etc ruined the genre.
I thought you had self awareness.

[Anonymous No.7309412]

>>7309405
I love halo, despite the precedence it set, and half life, don't speak for me you mongoloid

[Anonymous No.7309416]

>>7309383
>Books and other cheap printed works are the worst and most destructive thing ever invented by humanity.

[Anonymous No.7309419]

>>7309389
They really are, anon. New is fine. Destructive is not.

[Anonymous No.7309427]

[Anonymous No.7309430]

>>7309427
>xkcd
You need to go back.

[Anonymous No.7309432]

>>7309349
one came in a time when satanic panic was a thing
the other turned the demons into moba creatures like any other game

[Anonymous No.7309434]

>>7309430
Seethe harder chud

[Anonymous No.7309435]

>>7309383
Actually it's the internet's rapid air to ground dive from a place that fosters intelligent, self regulating communities into shitholes meant to squeeze every dime of sellable information out of you while essentially dumping cocaine into your tiny fucking RAT brain every second you're on it, not cheap cell phones. Eternal September was almost 30 years ago, let fucking go. This gay little argument has been a plague on the internet for decades.

retard

[Anonymous No.7309437]

>>7309430
>n-no, don't disagree with me!

[Anonymous No.7309440]

>>7309349
>You nailed it.
I'd agree with >>7309281 that who it's catering towards today and its overall circumstances for existing is still different from when it first came out. Doom '94 was made by less then what, fifteen people? We now have a mountain of employees working on the new ones, as well as a huge tone shift from 16 to Eternal.
Isn't there also a lot more riding on this new Doom as well? Rage, Quake Champ, and Wolfenstein, I don't think those did so well in the long run compared to the new Dooms.

[Anonymous No.7309441]

>>7309427
>dude all of these things that didn't replace the main form of social interaction between people are totally comparable to the one that did!
Not vidya. Not retro.

[Anonymous No.7309442]

>>7309197
It's not. I was agreeing with you. I just said that whittles it down to scripted events taking up time.

[Anonymous No.7309446]

>>7309427
>1895
>they already knew how living in overpopulated dystopian anthives is bad for your mental health

[Anonymous No.7309448]

>new good old bad
>old bad new good
how about you just enjoy things you fucks

[Anonymous No.7309451]

>>7309448
NO! I must larp as the Unabomber!

[Anonymous No.7309453]

>>7309427
That does nothing to dispute any claim, but at this point we should drop it anyway. Being off topic and all.

[Anonymous No.7309454]

>>7309446
>living in a dense enough area to find like-minded people is bad for your mental health
Sounds like a you problem, nearly everyone sane from podunk US towns moves out the moment they can.

[Anonymous No.7309457]

>>7309448
>can't you enjoy shit, it's brown just like chocolate

[Anonymous No.7309464]

>>7309454
Sometimes things are good and bad at the same time.

[Anonymous No.7309472]

>>7309432
What was that Marx quote? It applies here.

[Anonymous No.7309475]

>>7309435
>Actually it's the internet's rapid air to ground dive from a place that fosters intelligent, self regulating communities into shitholes
Because it's profitable
>meant to squeeze every dime of sellable information out of you
Because it's profitable
>while essentially dumping cocaine into your tiny fucking RAT brain every second you're on it,
Because it's profitable

Why? Because masses of easily exploited idiotic normies got easy access to the internet, so it became corporatized and normiefied. By now the machine is self-perpetuating, trying to create a community that actually gatekeeps will bring the wrath of rabid cattle masses down on you.

[Anonymous No.7309476]

>>7309095
What map is this? It looks so familiar.

[Anonymous No.7309480]

>>7309079
amusingly, i like all the icons i've heard about here: t hanks to /vr/doom, I've played hellevator, 2048 units of /vr/, and jpcp, all of which have fun icons (okay jpcp is a bit boring, but at least it's not torture).

i guess i also like scythe's ?

the stress of the monster spawner is quite unique for me and so a good icon is much more intense for me than a big boss battle (eviternity, valiant).

which ones do you like ?

[Anonymous No.7309482]

>>7309440
Is rage even worth playing?

Rage 2 is a mess, I like that studio their explosions are so fucking pretty but both rage 2 and mad max seem dead inside.


Its one of the problems with western game dev. The soul is not there and when it is its pozzed.

[Anonymous No.7309489]

Finally got around to checking out 2048 units. 6 maps in and having a good time, cool stuff guys.

[Anonymous No.7309490]

>>7309440
rage 2 did much better than rage 1
that's saying absolutely nothing but it's something
modern wolf 1 was well recieved but they shat the bed with 2 and no one gave a fuck by the time the 80s nostalgia bait with BJ's shitty daughters came out
I have no idea what happened with quake champs, I think people still play it? maybe? it was no lawbreakers at least before you say >who?: exactly

[Anonymous No.7309491]

>>7309435
This is the actual truth. People were always this retarded, now we get to see an entire planet full of them being retarded in real time.

By the way:
>Doom shareware sales: 1.36 million
>Doom 2: 1.8 million
>Ultimate Doom: 800,000
By any sort of standards of sales in early 90s games it was a massive success.

[Anonymous No.7309507]

>>7309493
>>7309493
>>7309493

New thread. Try not to re-write Capital in this one please.

[Anonymous No.7309510]

>>7309480
I really like the one in Doom 2 The Way Id Did It.

[Anonymous No.7309550]

>>7308960
As if I give a shit was Crippie 11 has to say.

[Anonymous No.7309554]

>>7308964
I didn't even know there were any that added visible feet.

[Anonymous No.7309560]

>>7309550
cope

[Anonymous No.7309567]

>>7309442
then why are you complaining?

[Anonymous No.7309601]

>>7309550
Always knew you were a civviebot

[Anonymous No.7309632]

>>7309472
the one that marx is a faggot?

[Anonymous No.7309641]

[Anonymous No.7309661]

Half Life chads won

[Anonymous No.7309696]

>>7309051
I dont get it, and wheres Lo-Wang?

[Anonymous No.7309827]

Remember that mtpain27 play with a lot of SAVES

[Anonymous No.7309918]

>>7309696
sunglasses guy on the left is Lo Wang, but its the reboot version for some reason
>>7309827
nobody cares

[Anonymous No.7310796]

>>7308983
The idea was the "problematic" comparisons. Birth of a Nation is racist while Doom was violent and "satanic" compare to the much "better" Half-Life and Citizen Kane.

[Anonymous No.7310837]

>>7308505

[Anonymous No.7310890]

>>7310796
the last part is true