CRT PSA

[Anonymous No.7301367]

Listen anons, heres the deal:
>There is a finite supply of crts
>Cooonsoomers are slowly raising the prices of them.
>Several models are coveted by collectors.
>Rather than being repaired, the monitors are constantly thrown out.
>Recycle centers since 2007 get boatloads of crts delivered to them almost daily
The warning signs are blatant, every cathode ray tube must be repaired regardless of quality. Hoard them, learn the skills to repair, etc. Don't let my life in gaming faggots raise the prices of these monitors. Even if you resell them for free or for 5$ itll keep the market from becoming out of reach.
Quick basic thing. if you have only a horizontal, vertical or just a dot on your screen just clean the connectors with ipa on the end of the tube and clean the connectors on the flyback transformer as well.

[Anonymous No.7301383]

But you would also need to be able to factor in old worn out electron guns, they wear down like the treads on a car tire.

[Anonymous No.7301386]

>do dangerous repair on a CRT
>or convert signal to hdmi
Hmmmm

[Anonymous No.7301394]

>>7301367
>learn the skills to repair,
Already have. but not going to fix shit for you for free or $5. You're going to have to OMG take your own advice.

[Anonymous No.7301401]

>>7301386
I've been shocked before, hand just went numb for a day. All you gotta do is discharge the tv which barely takes any skill at all.

[Anonymous No.7301434]

>>7301394
I do, thats why im making the psa faggot.

[Anonymous No.7301449]

Thanks for the PSA OP. I've got a trinitron licensed TEAC 14inch with stereo, composite input, and remote control that I abuse and give no fucks.

[Anonymous No.7301459]

Technology will soon be able to replicate CRT response times and black levels so no, you dont need to hoard useless bulky electronic waste.

[Anonymous No.7301465]

>>7301367
I wish there was a single database or something to learn about repairing CRTs. Lowering the entry barrier to that kind of skill would definitely help CRTs stay around a bit longer.

[Anonymous No.7301515]

>>7301465
Like tapeheads but for crts. man that'd help immensively.

[Anonymous No.7301609]

Back in the day being a TV repairman was a skill.
You needed to have memorized a fuckton of TV specific knowledge such as common faults for certain TVs, had to have enough guidebooks and schematics to fill an entire shelf and own specialized equipment meant specifically for fixing TVs.
Now some random motherfuckers on the internet who've barely even held a soldering iron think they can do this shit?

[Anonymous No.7301717]

>>7301609
Well you gotta if theres no repairman willing to fix a crt.

[Anonymous No.7301764]

>>7301367
>if you have only a horizontal, vertical or just a dot on your screen
You have a ruined CRT which is now completely worthless because a collapsed raster burns the phosphors.

[Anonymous No.7301768]

>>7301459
We have the technology already but nobody is manufacturing it. Laser raster display, all the advantages of CRT but much easier to build.

[Anonymous No.7301783]

>>7301609
>soldering new capacitors is hard

[Anonymous No.7301784]

>>7301367
Any CRT I've ever used in my life is in the trash now where it belongs.

[Anonymous No.7301792]

>>7301609
Its not rocket appliances faggot

[Anonymous No.7301798]

>>7301367
the giant grey 30"+ consumer sets can fucking rot

[Anonymous No.7301854]

>>7301609
Back in the day, being able to read put you in the upper class.

[Anonymous No.7301869]

>>7301367
>Cooonsoomers
What are you doing here? The average age of posters on this board is between 27 and 40. You type like a Ritalin-addicted zoomer larping as a retro gamer. Buzz off.

[Anonymous No.7301956]

Do landfills let you just walk in and take a crt? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.7302008]

I trash picked this little Orion CRT, works fine but its composite only. Was gonna try a RGB mod on it.

[Anonymous No.7302021]

>>7301956
They might have an electronics waste section that doesn't actually go into the dump. A lot of variance in how it's handled, even between towns. Call or check if they have a website. But a lot of people have gotten wise to there being a market for the stuff that usually ends up there.

[Anonymous No.7302079]

>>7301717
theres still people quite a few shops offering crt repairs in my area. Cant buy a crt anywhere tho kek

[Anonymous No.7302164]

No matter how much /vr/lets panic bait there are still enough CRTs just taking up space in people's basements fully functional but just retired to last us indefinitely.

Despite idiots hyping the prices of WEGAs and such from free to $80 this hobby is still relatively very, very small relative to the sheer amount of obsolete TVs out there so we do have time.

If that all goes horribly wrong however we can just move to OSSC or similar scalers.

[Anonymous No.7302225]

>>7301367
I sometimes see random colors flash on my crt for like a second whenever I'm playing PS2 shit. The colors will alternate between blue, pink and I think red, and they'll always appear as small vertical lines. Makes me think that the thing is gonna fucking explode one of these days and kill me.

[Anonymous No.7302305]

>>7301459
>Technology will soon be able to replicate CRT response times and black levels

We lost that dream with FED and SED sets. TVs are actually getting worse due to the superficial and pointless pursuit of thinner sets and micro bezels. My 2012 LED Phillips has better blacks and contrast than any current set of equivalent value on the market today. It might be an ugly, chunky motherfucker by modern standards, but it actually has room for adequate backlighting, and it shows.

[Anonymous No.7302815]

I brought a brand new 80cm crt in about 2002 for pretty cheap, I ended up throwing it out because it wouldn't degause, now I realize it was a pretty easy fix but it was taking up a lot of room. I had barely used it either and it had component, I had another 50cm crt I brought brand new too in 2005 that I barely used a year and threw out because it wouldn't turn on.
Now I own 6 crt's, 3 tv's and 3 computer monitors but they have signs of pretty high hours.
I have saved 2 crt's from the trash and they are still good, brought another one for $5.

>>7301768
Why not have a laser pointing at some spinning mirrors to project on a coated glass, should look the same as a crt with some treaking.

>>7301956
There was an electronic store that had a dump section behind it, I was able to go at night one time and take a crt from the dumpster. I tried to do it again a year later but ended up not being able to move the crt so I left just as a security car drove by. I still check and last time I saw a crt it was gone by the time I went to get it. I used to leave the crt inside a hot car for a few days to dry it out and remove any spiders.
Less hassle to just to pay the $10 to 20 most people would want for these things.

[Anonymous No.7302852]

>>7301367
someone should inform the Chinese that there is money to be made. I am pretty sure many CRTs have been shipped to china for recycling, they could save the good ones and resell them. It would be great if the Chinese could throw together a universal chassis with hdmi support. Modern electronics should be able to drive a CRT pretty
well.

[Anonymous No.7302886]

>>7302852
VR overestimates the number of retro gamers looking for CRTs (relative to the amount of used sets available) while grossly underestimating the amount of CRTs sold it would take to restart the economies of scale that would ever put good CRTs (let alone any CRT) back into production

[Anonymous No.7302909]

>>7302852
m8 noone is industrializing for CRTS in 2020 because 5 people on /vr/ started circlejerking a meme about muh deeper blacks. You lack critical economic understanding if you think CRTs will ever be made again.

[Anonymous No.7302926]

>>7302886
>>7302909
I am not proposing they be manufactured again. I am saying that there may be just enough demand to make it worth while salvaging and reselling existing devices. considering how cheaply you can get stuff done over there, is seems plausible that something could be worked out.

[Anonymous No.7302930]

>>7301367
At this point just enjoy whatever you have and pray for microLED to not have all the downsides of current panels.

[Anonymous No.7302971]

My neighbors across the street from me put a 27" consoomer grade Sony Trinitron on their curb to be picked up. I grabbed it, cleaned it up with elbow grease, and its been my retro monitor since. I fucking love it. I never had a CRT this good back in the day and just settled for whatever blurry mess was available. Old games look so fucking good on it Oh My God I'M COOOMIIIIINNG!!!!

[Anonymous No.7303225]

>>7301956
I said this in another thread and I'm gonna say it here. Typically recycle centers will take them. They also have loads of pvms and cctvs that are given to them as well there because while they do deal with people on an individual basis there are also tons of large corporations that simply recycle their stock from their own personal inventory. The one I go to lets you browse freely in the piles of metal and even if you pick out a crt theyll charge you by the pound. for me 30 pounds cost me 4 bucks.

[Anonymous No.7303242]

>>7301465
There's a giant vault under the devry Institute where they keep all this and the schematics for the arc of the covenant

[Anonymous No.7303271]

>>7301367
crtfags will move to another overpriced snake oil trend like audiophiles.

[Anonymous No.7303846]

>>7301367
i agree, but consider this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser-powered_phosphor_display
this sounds the same as a CRT but uses a laser instead of electrons; less chance of x-rays maybe? which might mean less need for lead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYFgf6ax8Vg

[Anonymous No.7303889]

>>7301459
not gonna happen in our lifetime

[Anonymous No.7303891]

>>7303271
>Translation: i got tin ears and i am almost blind. Probably stupid too. But i make up for all of this by constantly talking.

[Anonymous No.7303904]

>>7303271
>poorfag babies will continue to seethe and cope like they always do

[Anonymous No.7304536]

>>7303904
Based and tubepilled

[Anonymous No.7304631]

>>7301401
>hand just went numb for a day
>just
Nigga you crazy if you think I'll do this myself and not bring it to a pro.
My PVM thankfully works just fine but any good ways to find some1 who can repair CRTs?

[Anonymous No.7304715]

>>7301367
Why hasn't anyone tapped into this market yet? Making a more modern CRT?

[Anonymous No.7304749]

>>7304715
see this>>7302886
Basically we need to convince Elon Musk to make some lagless, high TVL count CRTs with inputs from Composhit to HMDI and high resolution up to 1080p.

[Anonymous No.7304834]

>>7304536
>*based and redtubed
FTFY

[Anonymous No.7304854]

>>7301367
>wait for oled perfection, put it in a case
>in the control panel users can toggle things like scan lines
>has an efficient upscaler, all controlled by a processor powerful enough to produce very little lag
>curve the panel, have it so users can chose their own case design styles (80s woodgrain, 90s black, 00s silver, or modern)
>extra space inside the case can be used for storage, unit is extremely light weight
>make bank

[Anonymous No.7304860]

>>7304631
How many “CRT pros” do you know of locally? Most TV repair shops nowadays won’t touch them, they’re just looking to make a quick buck by replacing backlights and other cheap components in modern displays. For most of us learning the repair skills ourselves is actually the only option. Basic maintenance isn’t dangerous or difficult if you aren’t retarded.

[Anonymous No.7304873]

>>7304854
Nobody wants that though. All we want is a new crt

[Anonymous No.7304886]

>>7302305
Incorrect. Modern screens are far superior to 2012 LCDs despite the shrinking bezels. Modern LCDs are capable of higher peak brightness, have full array local dimming and smoother motion. Your 2012 LCD is trash. Unless you meant to say plasma but if so it has different pros cons.

[Anonymous No.7304919]

>>7304886
>Your 2012 LCD is trash

Backlit LED, not LCD. It has better blacks and contrast than any low cost set I've seen in person since, including (more expensive) sets I've bought as gifts. I'm actually dreading the day it dies and needs replacing, because I know I won't be able to get a set as good.

[Anonymous No.7304935]

>>7304860
>if you aren’t retarded.
You're in the wrong place buddy

>>7304873
I think anyone would be happy with a non-crt solution as long as it accurately replicates the CRT. Bear in mind that not everyone who wants CRT replacements is a poor bandwagoner. I'd like replacements for vector monitors that work out of the box. There is probably more money to be made producing these for the handful of arcades that need them than all the poorfag children in the world who want a CRT.