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7296515 No.7296515 [Reply] [Original]

>renders your hardware obsolete

Let me guess, you NEED to consoom plastic

>> No.7296552

Does it emulate 32x? Super gameboy(not just the border and colors)? Ps1? Sega saturn? Nintendo 64?

>> No.7296559

>>7296552
Yes.

>> No.7296560

>>7296552
Not yet, but it will eventually.

>> No.7296567

I keep hearing about this but does anyone here actually have one? What's the main reason to use it? Reduced lag?

>> No.7296569

>>7296560
The first 3 are possible, I guess. But I really doubt that it can emulate nintendo 64 and sega saturn. Who knows...

>> No.7296570

>>7296567
Reduced lag, reduced plastic and increased poorfag rage.

>> No.7296575

Should I wait for a cyclone VI mister?

>> No.7296581
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7296581

>only emulates up to 4th gen
>"eventually it will emulate 5th gen"
cringe patreon donator mentality

If you're getting a Mister, you might as well get an emulation box from aliexpress

>> No.7296582

>>7296515
>not having your gaming PC connected to your TV

What, does your wife not let you have it in the living room? Are you stuck in your 'mancave' under the fucking stairs?

>> No.7296583
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7296583

>>7296515
Emulation is for losers that don't care about the game, if you can't tell the difference you never will. At least on a computer it's cheap and any third worlder can do it. Mister is for people that need to
>consoom
instead of buying a console at a flea market for a few bucks and a ODE for a few dozen. It's for retards that don't have a hobby playing games, they have a hobby posting online about all the different ways they could play games

>> No.7296587

>>7296575
No.

>> No.7296594

>>7296583
>posts online about all the ways you can play a game
>wails about people posting online about all the ways you can play a game

What did he mean by this?

>> No.7296602

>>7296594
I mean I'm looking at the board after I had a cigarette. Can you read, how did I post anything you quoted? Yeah, look at the listen of my hardware and RGB mods?
>>wails
Yeah complaining about a shit thread on a board that used to be good is really wailing. Why don't you find something more constructive other than starting a argument because you haven't talked to anyone in months

>> No.7296604

>>7296602
>he carries on wailing
>harder

>> No.7296605

>>7296583
Cope

>> No.7296607

>>7296605
>>7296604
Go outside, what are you even trying to accomplish? Reply again and waste your time

>> No.7296612

>>7296607
Last post wins, faggot.

>> No.7296629

>>7296607
Go outside, what are you even trying to accomplish? Reply again and waste your time

>> No.7296637

Last post wins, faggot.

>> No.7296661

>>7296515
rpi4 here, can do 5th gen, dreamcast and psp.
sorry if you fall for e-celeb memes

>> No.7296673

>>7296661
But you can't use it with crts

>> No.7296680

>>7296515
>>renders your hardware obsolete

That is Hardware though. If you want to avoid Hardware and Consuming you use Software emulation instead of acquiring another piece of plastic that won't quite live up to the hype.

>> No.7296704

>>7296680
You could buy a lot of consoles and fpgas for the price of a complete mister + controller adapters

>> No.7296709

>>7296612
then you just lost, faggot.

>> No.7296716

>>7296673
retrorgb.com/rpi240p.html

>> No.7296720

>>7296680
>acquiring another piece of plastic that won't quite live up to the hype.

This is what really bugs me.

None of these things are ever better than just emulating on my PC or Laptop, and they don't really offer any more convenience, either.

>> No.7296889

I already own the consoles and cartridges and don't need this.
Buying something you don't need is the definition of consumerism.

Sorry, shill.

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>>7296720
>None of these things are ever better than just emulating on my PC or Laptop, and they don't really offer any more convenience, either.

And all of you are insufficient and fall short to my OEM hardware. Stop acting like you're not on the same boat with the other frauds anon.

>> No.7297028

>>7296515
>renders shitposts on 4chan
zoom. not even once

>> No.7297062
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7297062

Oh dear, the poors are mad again.

>> No.7297115
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7297115

poor paying overpriced to feel superior to the other poor.

>> No.7297180

>>7296515
The PC renders the MiSTer obsolete.

>> No.7297184
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7297184

>>7296515
Gee MiSTer, that sure is a waste of money. Would rather emulate on my PC.

>> No.7297675
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>>7296515
I still prefer everything on may main PC.

>> No.7297861

>>7296709
Think again, faggot.

>> No.7298767

>>7296515
PC Emulators did this 25 years ago.

>> No.7298832

>>7296906
>posts the ugliest snes model

>> No.7298854

Just ordered on of these and a VGA scart cable so I can play dodonpachi with no lag Tate on my 4k tv and pvm at the same time.

>> No.7298885

>>7296515
coomlectors are not gamers, they just fetishize the physical consoles and don't give a shit about the games, they just want to hoard

>> No.7298906

these threads always stink of turds that are upset they're wife's husband wont let them buy original hardware to keep in the house

>> No.7298913
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7298913

>>7296515
Anybody with a laptop and a 200 dollar tv has you beat, and they can do ten times more like play morrowind with mods or doom wads. Face it, that "thing" is for boomers.

>> No.7298915

>>7298885
yeah cause the person who downloads 10,000 roms they will never even play 5% of is way bigger ultra gamer right?

>> No.7298961

>>7296906
Your hardware requires a flash cart to play translated/patched games. Your hardware can't save state, fast forward or rewind, and requires an ugly ass Game Genie to cheat. It also requires you to burn [your country's currency]. Why would I want this?

>> No.7298969

>>7298915
>the person who buys 10000 games they will never play is way bigger ultra gamer

>> No.7298978

>>7298915
I am more likely to play a ROM than a game I can't fast forward through on a physical conslole.

>> No.7298990

>>7298915
why would every person who isnt a money wasting hoarder be like this? i download the roms specifically because i want to play them and i don't need to consoom or go on the internet to brag about consooming. I care about the game not muh products which are not games just consoles to play them on.

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>>7298978
Anon, I-i-i think you have to die now. Im sorry.

>> No.7299037

>>7298990
Yeah, anon i wouldn't worry about it too much. I use emulation and real hardware. These guys fall into two catagories. The extremist who no matter what their opinion is the correct way to play "insert game", or the troll. Me, im more of a troll but i do like good discussion mixed in. This isnt really the thread for that though. You gotta learn how to read between the lines.

>> No.7299281

>>7296515
If I wanted a dedicated emulation machine, I'd fire up my xbox.

>> No.7299309

not sure what thread to post this in, but my fucking everdrive deleted my save file for DKC3
I knew I should've been using my real cartridge

>> No.7299464

>>7296582
>Windows on a big TV
Horrible.

>> No.7299467

>>7296515
Can someone explain the point of buying one of these instead of just using an emulator on my PC?

>> No.7299641

>>7299467
Fat smelly incels on the internet will be jelly

>> No.7299652

>>7299467
posing with it for reddit karma

>> No.7299927

>>7296515
>implying buying a mister isn't consooming plastic

who gives a fuck? i'm convinced there's a concerted shilling effort for this thing going on lately. this kind of device will be worth a damn in like, 10 years I'm guessing. by which point emulating on PC's/ARM devices/SBC's etc will still be leaps and bounds ahead of it. So basically it'll never have a point. Never trust anyone who hates on software emulation, guaranteed it's because they have something to sell

>> No.7299952

>guys this is great you need this
>>i don't need that
>lol what are you poor lmao
shill tactics

>> No.7299957
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7299957

Got one to reduce wear and tear on my AES collection. It’s pretty neat, don’t believe the people who say it’s a meme.

>> No.7301778

Why is it so ugly? Looks like a PC power supply from early 2000's. I would be ashamed to have this atrocity in my living room just to play with romz.

>> No.7301834

>>7296515
>consoom
*Consume. And /v/ is this way >>>/v/

>> No.7301842

>>7301778
Unironically this.

>> No.7301845

>>7296583
Based

>> No.7301896

>>7301778
>>7301842
So use a different case if you'd rather some plastic shit.

>> No.7302185

>>7296673
>But you can't use it with crts
errrmmmm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKYFKjiO6bc

>> No.7302197

>>7302185
Now show a video of a raspberry pi 4

>> No.7302207

>>7302197
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5OYYTOO8xM

>> No.7302326

>>7302207
https://www.retrotink.com/post/retrotink-ultimate-where-is-it

>> No.7302358

>>7296515
regular computer is better

>> No.7302401

>>7302326
"For the cores that are available, the MiSTer blows away anything software based in terms of accuracy and latency."

Poorfags BTFO!

>> No.7302448

>>7299464
>Windows
Horrible.

>> No.7302582

>>7296515
No, that's why I have a computer.

>> No.7302610

>>7296515
The MiSTer is trash. It's worth nothing.

>> No.7302646

>>7296582
I have an office

>> No.7302661

>>7296569

Why wouldn't it? It's just an FPGA, it's just whenever they get fast enough basically.

>> No.7302691

>>7298961
>Can't save state, fast forward or rewind
And that's a good thing, git gud faggot

>> No.7302709

>>7302661
Horsepower isn't the issue, to build an N64 core someone will have to physically map out the logic of the chips. It will happen eventually, but there's more to it than porting a software emulator to a powerful enough FPGA. The Neo Geo core only happened because some guy was already documenting the hardware to find replacements for the components.

>> No.7302787

>>7302709

http://www.ultrafp64.com/

https://mobile.twitter.com/UFp64

>> No.7302850

>>7296567
Will it eventually not be a huge ugly eyesore I have to hide from people

>> No.7302876

>>7302709

No, I understand. But it still has to be fast enough, I think they're currently about 400mhz or so? And then do the mapping, of course, but I don't know if that's insurmountable. They're pretty general hardware.

>> No.7302885

>>7302876

There's an implied question in here, since I'm not super knowledgeable on the FPGA stuff, but I don't see what would prevent them from doing a Saturn or N64 at some point.

Is there?

>> No.7302929

>>7302885
https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=335

>> No.7303354

>>7296515
Why do you fags care?

>> No.7303543
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7303543

>>7303354
>why do fags on a board for discussing old toys care about ways to play with old toys

>> No.7304247

>>7303543
Stay mad

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7304282

>>7296602
>look at the listen

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7304286

>>7304247
>be mad
>project

>> No.7304287

>>7298961
your pc, phone, mister were free then? all of it requires monetary investment moron.

>> No.7304289

>>7296515
>he doesn't know emulators have existed for decades

>> No.7304306

I think the best thing where MISTer blow every other solution is about stability, you will never ever have a single time of video and audio desynch, no change in the speed... not even once, remain as much stable on everything as the original hardware, that's the best thing about it.

>> No.7304524
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7304524

MiSTer is great if you care for its features. A Raspi might be good enough for many. You might be fine with your current PC.

Now go enjoy some games and don't worry so much.

>> No.7304545

>>7298961
>Your hardware requires a flash cart to play translated/patched games.
Wrong bucko. People have been playing those on bootlegs for ages. And on copiers long before emulators.
>Your hardware can't save state
Many of mine can, and also handle cheats. Just because you're too young to have experienced this shit doesn't mean it didn't/dosn't exist.
>It also requires you to burn [your country's currency].
If your mommy can buy your computer/phone and make it magically "free" then my mommy can buy my hardware and make it magically free just as easily.
zoom zoom

>> No.7304567

>>7296515
That thing is still shit

>> No.7304572

Unauthorized advertising isn't allowed here. It's a bannable offense.

>> No.7304785

>>7296515
>consoom
>>7298885
>coomlector
Stop breathing.

>> No.7304835

>>7304785
t. triggered consoomer

>> No.7307142

Original console + everdrive flashcart is the optimal choice and you can't refute this.

>> No.7307375

>>7307142
>everdrive
lmao. Depending on you version firm ware of an ED there could be a buttload of games that don't work.

>> No.7307437

>>7307375
Of course I buy all the versions that support the most games. What are you, poor?

>> No.7307584

>>7307437
>of course i larp and don't realize it out's me as an underage bandwagoner
Top kek kid. If you bought "all the versions" you'd have spent a buttload and could have bought a ton or original games instead because you would have been buying shit 10 years ago. Why do you zoomies even try to pull this shit on an 18+ board?

>> No.7307791

>>7307584
>Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit
lol, didn’t read

>> No.7307857

>>7296581
>an emulation box from aliexpress
Just download retroarch on your phone then

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7307885

>>7307791
>larp
>get called out and btfo
>post "didn't read" through seething tears
kek

>> No.7308130

>>7296552
>Does it emulate 32x?
Well within possible but why bother lol
>Super gameboy(not just the border and colors)?
Yes
>Ps1?
Already on the way
>Sega saturn? Nintendo 64
Can it go to the moon? can it solve world hunger? Can it cure covid?

>> No.7309024

>>7308130
>Super gameboy(not just the border and colors)?>Yes
Wrong

>> No.7309050

>>7309024
Mister can't emulate the use of SPC-700. That means no extra sound effects or music for Donkey Kong or Animaniacs

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>>7296567
I built my self one in a custom enclosure a few months ago. I like it. However I'm finding my self really disliking playing games on a modern television. I bought the VGA board and that works fantastic when I hook it up to either a LCD or CRT monitor.
I think what I want is though to hook it up to Composite or S-Video to play on Consumer Television sets.
I have the VGA to component cable. It works fine, but the television I want to use it on doesn't have that.
Any suggestions on getting Composite or really S-video out of the MiSTer?

>> No.7309065

>>7296581
Please just emulate on your phone.

>> No.7309071

>>7296889
You don't own anything. You Pirate and Emulate everything, ShillBot.

>> No.7309084

>>7309071
>i m-must consoom...nerd...cred...reddit...karma

>> No.7309087
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>>7296515
This is the formfactor ALL computers should have

>> No.7309090

>>7309084
My point exactly. You contribute nothing.

>> No.7309221

>>7296594
People that get excited just because they arent playing it on original hardware.
They want to impress people.

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7310863

>>7302850
I think it looks good.

>> No.7310910

The MISTer is actually not a meme but a real thing that works really well once you realize why.

The fact that we can use a DE10 Nano with a Cyclone V SoC is insane and all thanks to Intel lowering the price artificially so more people get to enjoy and use it, handing people hardware that normally is only for very limited amounts of users and for insane prices. Anything even remotely better would bump up the price into the thousands, hell maybe the cheapest available alternative right now is 1k+ and I dont see that replacing the DE10 Nano anytime soon based on that.

You can call it a meme all you like, it's the closest we have ever gotten to real but not real hardware ever, it's going to be one of the most vital tools to preserve hardware and the proper usage of said hardware, and it's currently the most cost-effective way to hook things up to your modern TV without paying for expensive mods or third party devices.

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>>7296581
>>7296582
>>7296680
>>7296716
>>7296720
>>7297180
>>7297184
>>7297675
>>7298767
>>7298913
>>7302185
>>7302358
>>7302582
>>7304289
>>7307857
>>7309065
*Incorrectly emulates your game in your path*

>> No.7310939

>>7296515
I already have a PC, I don't need some shitty device with terrible core support

>> No.7310940

>>7310910
>The MISTer is actually a meme and a fake thing that doesn't really work once you realize why.
You can buy a Nintendo at flee market for $5

>> No.7311005

>>7310932
Where is the Nintendo 64 Mister core?
Oh...

>> No.7311026

Are people on /vr/ really this dumb?

Software-based emulation IE your computer = Trying to as correctly as possible emulate SOFTWARE through your computer's CPU, a general purpose consumer market CPU, therefore creating huge advantages, considering the power of a modern CPU, but also huge disadvantages because the CPU is playing a game of balance between correct latency and accuracy. There's a lot of overhead and its incredibly taxing on the CPU, with FPGA emulation you are essentially removing any overhead computation, using a device that isn't a consumer level CPU, as well as dramatically decreasing the workload needed to emulate.
If this sounds like hocus pocus to you, imagine your CPU as the device that is trying to quickly cram all of these hardware connections through a very small tube, while taking concessions because it doesn't all fit through at the same time.

FPGA = Trying to as correctly as humanly possible emulate HARDWARE, all of it, no tricks but full emulation of every single chip using years of knowledge on emulators and emulation itself to create something that doesn't just emulate all of these chips at once, but emulates all of them simultaneously and in sync. The biggest disadvantage of FPGA currently is that it was insanely interesting to see all these fun little projects, but as we started working on the 5th generation, people started to realize just how much work is required to emulate something like a PS1, considering the amount of hardware inside of the PS1, and the amount of computing the PS1 does to run our games.

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>>7311005

>> No.7311035

>>7296602
One more time, but in English.

>> No.7311061
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7311061

>Buys overpriced flashcarts
>Buy overpriced fake consoles
>Buy overpriced devices to hook your consoles to a modern tv
>Buy overpriced controllers to replace the shitty 30 year old controllers that don't live up to modern standards
>Emulate poorly on a shitty thinkpad
>Upset that people found a way to circumvent all of your consoomer autism

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7311064

>>7311032
Where is the Last Bronx Mister core?
Oh...

>> No.7311126

>>7310910
>the MISTer is actually not a meme but a real thing that I am personally invested, financially, in the success of

>> No.7311132

>>7311064
Model 2 mister core on the way should be dropping mid 2031 stay mad poorfag!

>> No.7311172

>>7311126
Ah yes, if you buy a product you're a shill

>> No.7311365

Idk why but of all the boards I frequent, /vr/ has consistenly the WORST fucking takes BY FAR. I don't even know why you bother trying to explain this shit to them. Honestly, you guys are fucking morons and I'm glad this board is dead.

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>>7311365
Hey man that sounds rough, try this it might help

>> No.7311404

>>7311172
that and if you take it upon yourself to deliver CES keynote speeches on behalf of it for some "unknown" reason yes, definitely. it's really simple - when people hate on software emulation these days it's because they do not want to see the value, as in financial value, of the stuff they've bought be eroded. the stuff doesn't need to be original games/hardware either, it can be little toys like this thing or an OSSC or whatever it might be. so you go online and blather on about how THIS (physical, resellable) thing is the only REAL way to play old video games and anyone else who's not BUYING these things isn't gaming to the maximum or whatever. and people believe it and they buy more shit from ebayers and whoever else. it's super see through, if you don't have an ebay store at least stop doing shiller's legwork for them.

anyone who truly cares about the hobby would advocate for the development of software emulation to the highest degree that it can reach and everything else would be secondary basically.

>> No.7311481

>>7296552
The cyclone V has 110,000 logic elements with which to recreate the chips in the system. You can reduce the amount be also using the dd3 ram since ram would take up a heap of logic elements but the impression I get is that a logic element can simulate a transistor. With that in mind it wouldn't be unrealistic for just the cpu in the n64 to have a million transistors. Atari jaguar also has 2 chips with 600k transistors each. The most powerful fpga seems to have around 300k logic gates.
Mister also has an arm cpu so you could part software emulation.
Still the arcade cores look very intersting, would be cool if they did outrun.

>> No.7311483

>>7307857
>>7309065
even better

>> No.7311485

>>7311383
Take a few minutes before hitting submit next time. Your jokes are weak, as expected from a denizen of this shithole. Fuck you for wasting my time.

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>>7311485

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"wow, this will look great in my display case!"

>> No.7311517

>>7311512
dude did you know that it plays NEO GEO games though? we are seeing a revolution in emulation, the notoriously difficult to emulate NEO GEO is fully supported by mister. poorfags will just have to cope about it!!

>> No.7311546

>>7311517
Neo Geo is also fully supported by my Neo Geo. Why do I need something else to play the games I already have?

>> No.7311547

>>7311132
I hope you're kidding

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7311557

>>7311517
wow you mean to tell me after paying $350 USD not including shipping, a case or controller, I can play the RARE and COVETED Neo Geo?

>> No.7311640

>>7311547
no way man, i'm dead serious. if POOR FAGGOTS weren't already BTFO by mister's NEO GEO support, just wait until it supports MID 90s arcade tech.. OMG... they will still be trying to figure out how to use MAME (which is impossible, good luck!) and mister chads will be playing model 2 in STYLE.. You Gotta Love It!!!

>> No.7311653

>>7311557
It's such a good deal honestly like.. I thought I had been playing neo geo games for years and years, whether that was via ports or mame or whatever but I was SO wrong.. there's just something about the feedback from the system when you hit the ball in Neo Turf Masters on a mister that's like.. it's crazy.. I get really horny... you just wouldn't get it until you've played it on a mister, it's like a new experience almost....

>> No.7311685

>>7311546
the original name of the Neo Geo system is actually just SEGA System.

>> No.7311687

>>7311557
Considering the Neo Geo cost $650 at launch and each cartridge was $200, that still sounds like a good deal

>> No.7311695

>>7311687
MAME and Final Burn are free

>> No.7311703

>>7311687
yeah man. it's actually a smokin deal too if you buy a 30 year old couch for just over half of what it cost new. like, what do these poorfags not get? someone (ie a boss chad with money) had to pay retail for it. they think they can just freeload??

>> No.7311713

>>7311695
LMAOOOO WOW DUDE.... PLEASE... YOU DON'T ACTUALLY PLAY ROMS FOR LESS THAN $400 RIGHT? LOSER!!!

>> No.7311728

>>7311695
If you want emulation why bother with original hardware in the first place

>> No.7311731

>>7311703
don't forget the 25 year old CRT

>> No.7312082

>>7311404
But software and hardware emulation are both important for preservation, I don't shit on software emulation because its vital, but I dont see any reason why you should piss on MISTer.

>> No.7312209 [DELETED] 

>>7310863
Based M30. 8bitdo really hit it out in of the park with that one

>> No.7312216

>>7310863
Based M30. 8bitdo really hit it out of the park with that one.

>> No.7312721

>>7310932
>muh accuracy
You should be more worried about your virginity and why you haven't lost it.

>> No.7312758

>>7310932
>*Incorrectly emulates your game in your path*

Have you tried not using Windows XP?

>> No.7312783

>>7296515
Reminder that you haven’t truly beaten a game unless you beat it on original hardware.

>> No.7313037

>>7310940
Maybe twenty years ago. What you just wrote is fake&gay.

>> No.7313043

>>7311026
Not everyone. Just poor people and city people obsessed with owning next to nothing so when they get evicted they don't loose everything they've worked for.

>> No.7313057

>>7313037
Not him, but I bought an original NES for $4 at a thrift store and it works perfectly.

>> No.7313081

>>7313057
And then the whole board clapped.

>> No.7313428

>>7313057
dont know where you live but around there people sell their NES at ebay value so around $80

>> No.7313520

>>7313428
I live in Michigan. The eBay prices never factored in, even in pawn shops.

>> No.7313648

>>7313037
>hasn't been to a garage sale, thrift store, antique store or flea market
Online convince prices aren't what people sell everything for. I got a Genesis with 2 six button controllers at a 'fill up a box for $2' flea market along with a bunch of other shit.

>> No.7313675

>>7313648
No one fucking believes you. We've all been shopping and hunting around for a decade. You think everyone here is as fucking retarded as you?

>> No.7313684

>>7313675
>The world is 5 square miles, everything is the same everywhere
Old grandmas don't know what they're selling, overflowing antique stores don't care. You're bitter because you looked at 2 stores and gave up, I go every weekend and buy something very rarely but deals can be found.

>> No.7313703
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7313703

>>7313684
>>7313648
You want a real world Pick? Here you go, faggot. Fifty dollars including the console. Go ahead and find a pick out there in the wild as good as this one is for fifty fucking dollars. LyingSackOfShit

>> No.7313723

>>7313703
>I've never been to a garage sale in the midwest
I don't know why you're so mad you haven't gotten lucky, I don't even buy software only hardware and barely anything nowadays

>> No.7313758

>>7313723
>I don't even buy software
Not lucky. I can tell you're completely out of the loop for collecting. So why even bring up your fifteen year old memories of not buying games in the mid west?

>> No.7313771

>>7313758
I'm out of the loop because I only buy consoles and accessories? Are you draft? You got a great deal on the $50 bundle with Yoshi Island don't know why you're so bitter but if you look around you can pick up most pre-6th gen console for anywhere from $25 to $1 church sales and flea markets are always the beat

>> No.7313839

>>7313771
>I'm out of the loop because I only buy consoles and accessories?
Hmmm... Yea.

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>>7313839
>I'm a loser that looks at games on a shelf instead of playing them
Good to know~

>> No.7313903

>>7313861
Why the fuck would you assume that? And that's an odd picture for /vr/.
I own far more consoles than what the MiSTer can simulate. I think one of the only Game Consoles that MiSTer plays that I don't own is a NeoGeo AES. I have a single slot MVS board, but it needs recapped if not other work done to it.

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>>7296515
Buying a famicom tomorrow, get fucked zoomer

>> No.7314019

>>7296583
Collectors don't play videogames. They collect. An emulationfag by their very nature only exists because they actually play videogames.
There's a single tiny niche of emulatorfag that isn't into to games, and that's the software developer that gets off merely on creating/tweaking the emulator itself.

>> No.7314105

>>7309058
How will you connect it if the TV doesn't have the hookups

>> No.7314906

>>7313428
He lives in, and larps from, his moms basement.

>> No.7315317

>>7313968
>I must consooooooom

>> No.7315870

>>7296602
Why you wailing so much?

>> No.7315885

>>7315870
Niggaz be wailin.

>> No.7316515

>>7313968
I own one of the rarest Famicoms ever produced, a Famicom Disk System, a box full of Famicom games including Devil World, Akumajō Densetsu, and a boxed TMNT. A N8 Famicom EverDrive from SAG, and a MiSTer. So what the fuck is your point?

>> No.7316518

>>7314019
>Collectors don't play videogames.
LMAO That's some BellCurve posting right there.

>> No.7316521

>>7314105
Well for one thing there are many many ways at my disposal for getting nearly any digital or analog video signal to any video connector I want. However my question is specifically for the MiSTer analog board because the VGA output can be changed to Component and so It's likely it can be changed down to Composite or S-Video. Eventually I'll probaby find the answer my self I just figured since other people have a MiSTer that could save me a little bit of time. If all else fails I'll just hook up my DVDO Scaler and call it a day.

>> No.7316743

>>7316518
Collecting is a hobby independent of playing videogames. One doesn't require the other.
People collect comic books they don't read. People collect video games they don't play.
This isn't a big brain concept.

>> No.7316863

>>7309058
Find yourself a ~2000 era Trinitron for a couple hundred bucks at most.

>> No.7317005

>>7316863
I already have two 21 inch Dell Trinitrons. One of them has the BNC connectors. I just got a JVC 27 inch that has s-video. That's the TV I want to use.

>> No.7318507

>>7311026
It's a thin fucking line tho. What you've said is all sitting on the wrong wide of it, but not by much. What they're saying is on the right side of it, but again, not by much. Irregardless, the MiSTer is what it is and does what it does.

>> No.7318512 [DELETED] 

>>7296515
chi

>> No.7318597
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>>7316515
Oh yeah? Well I have bowling for the Atari 2600, waddya think of that, huh?

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7320329

>>7318597
Nice. The box on the left is some of my better 2600 games. The box on the right is some random assortment I bought in the past couple years.

>> No.7320352

>>7296515
No. It's just a waste of money, when I can do all my emulation on PC.

>> No.7320362

>>7320352
That's really nice that software emulation is good enough for your needs. It really is. What contributions have you made for the emulation scene?

>> No.7320382

>>7320362
Hosting a rom file of an unreleased game on my website without ads.

>> No.7320384

>>7320329
River Raid and Pitfall are great, you should try Solaris, it's my favorite game.

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7320407

>>7320362
I'm not him, but I've genuinely dumped everything from the 2600 up to current gen, including arcade boards, I specifically target rare things. It's not just chips too, I also dump optical.
http://redump.org/discs/dumper/incog/

>> No.7320634

>>7320407
Wow, that's awesome. Thank you.

>> No.7322687

>>7320407
>I've genuinely dumped every piece of shovelware and edutainment no one has ever wanted
I guess there's no harm in preserving that stuff but lol

>> No.7322690

>>7322687
Yes, I do it so future historians have a full set of everything we have.
You can't judge the rest of the games if you don't also have the background noise.

>> No.7323736

>>7322690
Certainly respect your dedication. I've dumped a few obscure japan exclusive turds that no one else seemed to be able to find but you've dumped a lot.

>> No.7323790

>>7296552
>>7296569
PS1 is coming along nicely, follow this dude for updates

https://twitter.com/Laxer3A/status/1341853428734160897

>> No.7323861
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7323861

>Why, yes, I am a complete retard with money who owns a $1500 PC for emulation, MiSTer, several Analogue FPGA clone consoles + DAC, original hardware, and multiple flashcarts for the same systems. How could you tell?

>> No.7324834

>>7323861
dangerously based

>> No.7324989

>>7323861
>he doesn't buy Classic Mini consoles too
poorfag

>> No.7324991

>>7296583
NOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN NOSTALGERINOS

>> No.7325001

>>7323861
This is a personal attack

>> No.7325305

>>7323861
stop flexing on me man

>> No.7326343

>>7323861
Based!

>> No.7326378
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7326378

Why should I spend $500 on an FPGA system and barely play PS1, when I could add a GPU to an old PC for half the price and play PS2, maybe PS3 and Wii U?

>> No.7328471

>>7296515
Dang

>> No.7328719

>>7326378
Get a ps1 with a xstation ($100) and if you want a ps1digital ($160)

Hopefully you can install them yourself lol

>> No.7328752

>>7326378
Exactly. There's a reason why it's called "PC Master Race" and not "FPGA Master Race".

>> No.7329127

>>7316743
>This isn't a big brain concept
it kinda is when I see how many people watch metal jesus

>> No.7331519

>>7296515
Yes

>> No.7331953

Buying new tech to emulate retro game is wrong. Just get the original console and play on a crt.

>> No.7332883

>>7331953
This. People who use programmable logic to emulate parts that are impossible to find in order to get their arcade boards running are pure evil. Come to think of it, any company that made boards using programmable instead of discrete logic should burn in hell for the same reason.

>> No.7334950

Bump

>> No.7336163

>>7323861
>Why, yes, I am a complete retard with money who owns a $1500 PC for emulation, MiSTer, several Analogue FPGA clone consoles + DAC, original hardware, and multiple flashcarts for the same systems just to confirm that they can play Mario and Sonic

>> No.7336171

>>7331953
Naw emulation and stuff makes sense for arcade hardware that can be super expensive at times. Spending the 150 bucks for a Mister that works well enough for NeoGeo stuff seems like a bargain to me. For home console stuff that is more reasonably priced just get the originals.

>> No.7337853

>>7336163
What more do you need to play?

>> No.7338565

>>7296515
>emulation
Yeah, literally same thing that Raspberry Pi, but for hipsters.

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7340462

>>7338565

>> No.7341657

>>7338565
>literally same thing
based retard

>> No.7342648

>>7328752
The fuck does PC Master Race have to do with Emulation? You can emulate most games on a Pentium 3.

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7342670

>>7338565
I see /vr/ is not /g/

>> No.7342682

>>7342648
Pentium 3 is in... a PC.
PC Master Race doesn't mean "I have $4000 in hardware zoom zoom", it means "PC is better than anything else even if I own a fucking potato."

>> No.7342840
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>>7342682
You know that the de-10 nano (MiSTer) has an SoC next to the FPGA which could run the same Emulator that runs on your PC. Its not the most powerful but it would run without a problem. Stop being a brainlet educate yourself!

>> No.7343273

>>7342840
The poorfags have no idea what they are talking about.

Thing I can't afford = bad!

>> No.7343328
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7343328

>>7343273
I have an MiSTer sitting next to me right now.

https://software.intel.com/content/www/us/en/develop/topics/iot/hardware/fpga-de10-nano.html

>Hard Processor System
>Processor
>Dual-core ARM Cortex*-A9 MPCore processor at 800 MHz
>...
>FPGA
>Programmable Logic
>Logic elements (LE): 110 K LE
>...

Maybe you should kys for beeing a stupid faggot.

>> No.7344000

wtf is this and why do you all shitpost about it monthly

>> No.7344180

>>7342840
>>You know that the de-10 nano (MiSTer) has an SoC next to the FPGA which could run the same Emulator that runs on your PC. Its not the most powerful but it would run without a problem. Stop being a brainlet educate yourself!

will you idiots ever learn?

https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=147&start=150

>> No.7344575

>>7343273
Actually the poorfags are the ones who refuse to buy a powerful graphics card for their PC, which would render the MiSTer useless. Although it's already useless because the MiSTer can't emulate 5th gen consoles.

>> No.7345090
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7345090

This is the same argument as "why collect vinyl/casettes when digital music exists?" It's a hobby. Original hardware is cool, box art and the thick ass manuals are cool, finding a game you've wanted for cheap at a flea market is cool and is more fun than downloading a rom, and for some systems like handhelds emulation doesn't feel the same. Emulation will always be the most efficient but owning physical copies of a couple of your favorites is pretty comfy.
Anyone who shits unilaterally on emulation or hardware probably has brain issues tho

>> No.7345112

>>7296552
No, but a low end PC will play those and not choke on N64 and Saturn, while having correct input lag, and even rescaling if you're a homosexual. The MiSTer is a fun toy to fuck around with but not the most practical solution to emulation.

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7345532

>>7344180
Yeah this is the chaneglog for the fpga cores. Still can run the same shitty emu's on the Arm SoC like the Pi.

will you idiots ever learn?

>> No.7345576

>>7344575
This shows that you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Emulation is not a huge task for the GPU.
Pushing sprites or a few polygons is not a big task. The taxing part is the emulation of the non native instruktions which needs to keep up with the speed of the target system this is mainly a CPU task.

This thread is full of morons that have no fucking idea what they are talking about. As a dev i am more than disappointed that you manchilds are such big retards.

>> No.7346647

>>7345532
>without a problem
LOL

>> No.7346687

>>7344575
The Mister can "emulate" anything in the shitter-fucker, "good enough" PC style of emulation. It's whether it can produce hardware equivalency is the issue, not if it can "emulate". I can tell you now it's never going to actually produce this in our lifetime, same as how PC emulation of fifth gen (especially n64) is shoddy at best.

The worst thing would be if they brought PC-style emulation emulation to the FPGA for fifth gen and beyond, then people would say "look, inaccuracies, may as well be using pc", undermining the whole point of a FPGA in the first place which will be/is to make PCs obsolete.

Within a few years you will be considered a complete retard casual baby if you tell people you emulate with a PC.

>> No.7346863

>>7346647
>has an SoC next to the FPGA
>run the same shitty emu's like your pc

I'm not even talking about the fpga cores but if you point out that the fpga cores are not a 100% replica of the console ... Of course, they are not. Maybe to some degree the neo geo core is, but what do you expect? It's still the superior environment to implement an emulation/simulation of a system. A CPU still has its limit no matter how fast they get. Why do you think you have an GPU in your PC? You can do Software rendering on the CPU, but it isn't so well suited for that task. Just because emulation is working on your PC doesn't mean that your 2k gayming rig is the best tool to simulate/emulate another Architecture.

I consider you should kys for being a fucking idiot.

>> No.7346898

>>7346687
Keep telling yourself that lie. PC's are getting better and more powerful than that shitty emulator box you use.

>> No.7346932

>>7346687
>>7346898
I think you're both faggots who don't play videogames enough.

>> No.7347135

>>7346932
I've been playing video games before you were even born, zoomercel.

>> No.7347571

Is it that important to recreate the actual chips functions? If I can't tell the difference between playing Dodonpachi on my pc vs mister then what is the point in paying for it? It is pretty neat though. I appreciate the nerdiness of it all.

>> No.7347598

>>7346898
>more powerful
You are stupid. The term "powerful" doesn't apply in this instance. You may as well say your computer is "more powerful" than your coffee machine therefore can make coffee better than it. Being "more powerful" stopped being a bottleneck for PC emulation of pre-5th gen back around the year 1999 (with a few exceptions). While lag is introduced at the inputs and outputs of all x64 processes (ie. while a PC is a PC) it can't come anyway near perfect emulation, and yes they do make a significant differene.

>> No.7347685

>>7345090
this guy gets it

>> No.7347689

>>7347598
You can't explain this to poorfags.

>> No.7347889

>>7347135
then get back to playing them instead of arguing about emulation boxes on a tibetan basket weaving forum, nigger.

>> No.7347903

>>7320329
Berzerk is fantastic. Also Kaboom and Warlords are excellent paddle games. Warlords is 4-players.

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>>7323861
huh!

>> No.7349798

>>7345090
I think the best situation is to have both emulation and physical depending on your situation and needs. No reason to get anal about only one solution.

>> No.7351846

>>7345090
>consooming is a hobby
Gross

>> No.7351865

>>7296515
That's fugly.

>> No.7352723

>>7296515
>emulation box
Don't need it. It's not like it's a portable gaming device. My PC will do just fine for emulation.

>> No.7352758

>>7296515
What is this

>> No.7352764

>>7296515
At the end of the day, this is just another piece of redundant plastic to "consoom", since I assume you have a PC.

>> No.7354292

>>7352758
The greatest innovation in gaming since Nintendo released the NES.

>> No.7355356

>>7354292
>emulation you pay for
FTFY

>> No.7355706

>>7346863
don't worry, I was poor too, some day you will have a real job, and make enough money to buy a POWERFUL PC

>> No.7356375

>>7352758
Pandora's box