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Pozzed or kino?

>> No.7295325

Average, mostly unremarkable first-person slasher. Nice graphics for a Dreamcast game though. I suppose if you're desperate for more things to play on your Dreamcast you can give it a whirl.

>> No.7295335

>>7295309
It's the best Shin Megami Tensei game on the Dreamcast. Shame about the bits of censorship and jank voice acting in the US release.

>> No.7295369

>>7295309
>Pozzed
>kino

Fuck off with that shit already. Try and sound like you have at least a shred of intelligence.

>> No.7296073

keyed

>> No.7296080

>>7295335
>bits of censorship
>bits
Atlus rewrote the entire plot, it is one of the worst cases of censorship in a game. What's truly bizarre about it is that Sega didn't actually give a shit about anything in it, Atlus themselves decided it needed to be censored if it was going to release in the US.

>> No.7296259

If you care about "poz" you wouldn't play a game whose artist is well known for flamboyant fashion designs and giant penis monsters.

>> No.7296370

>>7295369
Pozzed is oldfag terminology, and only newfag tourists complain about it and think it's specific to the 4chan boogeyman board

kino is neo-/tv/ but /tv/ is at least one of the most oldfag boards left

>> No.7296389

>>7296370
>Pozzed is oldfag terminology
Kill yourself you fucking child

>>7296080
What was changed about the plot? I have the .gdi downloaded and don't know anything about it

>> No.7296395

>>7295309
I like the body surfing gimmick and I wish more games had something akin to it

>> No.7296418

>>7296080
>What's truly bizarre about it is that Sega didn't actually give a shit about anything in it, Atlus themselves decided it needed to be censored if it was going to release in the US.
Sounds like a pattern. I mean, I don't think Sony was telling them to do what they did with Persona 1 either.
>>7296370
>Pozzed is oldfag terminology
If you think 2015 is oldfag, and considering we're still getting new rounds of election-tourists, you probably fucking do

>> No.7297090

MAKEN

DEUS

EX

MAKIINA

>> No.7297253

>>7295309
Seems cool. Early 00s animu art style and first person sword mechanics make it pretty interesting. As another anon mentioned the body surfing mechanic is cool too. Haven’t finished the game but it has some solid appeal, but from what I have played of it that’s mostly what it has going for it. The combat itself isn’t very interesting unfortunately.

>> No.7297468

>>7295309
Nice graphics(probably some of the best on the DC when it came out), great soundtrack and shit gameplay. DC REALLY needed that second analog.

>> No.7297656

>>7296389
>What was changed about the plot?
The entire plot of the original game revolved around how the villains were a neo nazi group trying to take control of the world and basically everything political was scrubbed. The original plot is pretty abstract and bizarre so it's not like some powerful message was lost but still.

Technically there is still no "true" way to play Maken X in English. The English Dreamcast release is censored and the dub is pretty awful. Maken Shao had a release in Europe, this version wasn't censored and uses the Japanese voices with subs. However this version of the game is third person, as opposed to first person like the original release, so it has a different feel to it.

>> No.7297709

>>7297656
>so it has a different feel to it.
You wanted to say it finally become playable.

>> No.7297743

>>7297709
It plays worse than the original imo.

>> No.7297838

>>7297709
>>7297743
gotta agree. makken X gets a lot of points for being original, it feels like killer7: sword edition

but makken shao is just yet another third person slash people with a sword game for the ps2 that came out in the wake of DMC. I don't even think it would make top 10 games in this style for the ps2 even if we limit it to one game per franchise

>> No.7297845

>>7297656
all they did was remove the nazi imagery dude, the plot is the same and their actions are the same if they're neo-nazis or not.

especially when the only interesting part of the games narrative beyond all the crazy shit kaneko designed is the main girl talking with makken in response to moral choices (you) make

>> No.7297885
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>>7297656
>Maken Shao had a release in Europe, this version wasn't censored and uses the Japanese voices with subs.
Hey thanks.
Testing with pcsx2 doesn't work with hardware rendering (big graphical glitches) but works perfectly with software rendering.
Already know what i gonna do this weekend.

>> No.7298294

>>7297838
Yeah I'm sure a sub 50 fov and arrows pointing you to the enemies you wouldn't be able to normally know about makes it a fun game.

>> No.7298303

>>7296418
>NO NO NO IT'S FROM 2015

It's way older than that reddifugee bitch

Sorry you can't manipulate upvotes here to change the narrative pozzed faggot

>> No.7298306

>>7298294
I can play literally over a dozen games on the ps2 that play like makken shao
I can only play one game that plays like makken X

If all you care about is games being as focus tested and playable for Optimal Gamefeel as possible, why the fuck are you even on /vr/ and not playing modern western shooter game?

>> No.7298315

>>7298303

What does it refer to? Is it just HIV-related stuff? Anyway who cares whether it's old? It's stupid either way. Things aren't good because they're old. They're good because they're good. Conservatism is wrong and progressivism is wrong; only goodism is right.

>> No.7298329

>>7298306
>I can only play one game that plays like makken X
Play Quake 1 it has a axe which handles better than anything maken does or better yet Heretic/Hexen etc because apparently this is your first fps with weapon combat.

>> No.7298339

missed the part in quake where I can body swap between different characters who have different weapons
missed the part in quake where theres a branching series of levels based on my in-game decisions
missed the part in quake where theres visually interesting areas instead of the same brown castle over and over

>> No.7298343

>>7298339
You also missed the part where the devs straight admitted X was a mistake and released Shao without cut content and not butchered plot.

>> No.7298350

>>7295309
isn't the ps2 version better?

>> No.7298402

>>7298303
Only a teenager can get this defensive about their internet meme words being called gay

>> No.7298416

Garbage controls unplayable on the DC, get an emulator and remap the movement buttons.

>> No.7298420

>>7297885
I feel like being 3rd person, it kind of loses its personality and uniqueness

>> No.7298440

>>7296389
>Kill yourself you fucking child
Fuck of the leddit newfag tourist

>>7296418
>If you think 2015 is oldfag, and considering we're still getting new rounds of election-tourists, you probably fucking do
LMAO
point proven newfag bitch. Especially funny because newfag reddit leftshitters often call people election tourists and are tourists themselves who think 2012-2014 is oldfag.

>> No.7298446

>>7298315
newfag lol just go back

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>>7297253
>Early 00s animu art style
Dude's art is unique even for animu

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7298472

>>7298440
>>7298446

>> No.7298480

>>7298472
>reddit tourist calling people election tourist gets called out
>"look at this heckin chud incel xd!!"
go back

>> No.7298603

>>7298480
Go outside, touch some fucking grass. Acting this childish is making less people believe you're an le epic kek oldfag, as if thinking fucking early 2010's meme vocab is anywhere near "oldfag" or some shit to be proud of anymore.

>> No.7298619

>>7298315
It's slang for being HIV positive and a typically /pol/ metaphor for anything that has anything "progressive" or not being based redpilled chad topkek or whatever.
The artist for this game is known for >>7296259 , putting a gay pairing in Persona 2, games about punching religious figures in the face, with Maken X being about Nazi villains, so this would get called "pozzed" these days

>> No.7300064

>>7298603
Not even early 2010s you fucking newfag tourist. Nice cope though about "go outside, have sex", more redditry

>>7298619
>typically /pol/
Bullshit. You have made oldfag culture to be the right wing "nazi" boogeyman and replaced it with this narrative that 4chan was always against all the same things sjws are. The term even predates /pol/ newfaggot. It started on /b/, had nothing to do with politics. You have made it and everything political.

>> No.7300184

>>7297656
>The entire plot of the original game revolved around how the villains were a neo nazi group trying to take control
no it wasn't you nigger, the neo-nazis fags were just a part of the puppets controlled by someone else, there was that Pajeet TV host who brainwashed people with TV waves, a Mafia boss terrorizing half Europe, a Vatican Pope using Christianity to control the masses and encourage suicide (in fact his boss fight was removed from the DC version and only appeared in the PS2 version) and there was the US president

>> No.7300187

one of the few games i enjoyed on the Shitcast
and the PS2 version was better

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>>7298480
>>7298440
>>7300064
>t.

>> No.7300427
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7300427

The manga is really good too. Though it makes even less sense and doesn't really have an ending.

>> No.7300807

>>7300187
Didn’t even realize there was a PS2 version. Which one is better? Usually DC to PS2 ports don’t turn out too well.

>> No.7301093

>>7300064
>You have made oldfag culture to be the right wing "nazi" boogeyman and replaced it with this narrative that 4chan was always against all the same things sjws are. The term even predates /pol/ newfaggot. It started on /b/, had nothing to do with politics. You have made it and everything political.
This is the most fucking deranged delusional shit.
I don't give a shit about "oldfag culture" because we're on an anonymous imageboard where anyone can save cockmongler off google and claim to be from 2005.
"Pozzed" is at least old as the fucking 90's and was gay slang for HIV positive, and popular among bug chasing fetishists. I never fucking claimed it started on /pol/ because I don't fucking care where it did, it's as blunt as using the fucking (((triple parenthesis))), which I'm fucking sure you still think are so clever and topkek redpilled and could find a way to detach it from its political meaning online. You are either a naive child or just delusionally pulling shit out of your ass.
Go outside, have sex, kill yourself. You're wasting your life, if you even have one anymore.

>> No.7301098

>>7300807
I haven't played the PS2 version, but they will have different experiences. The DC version is all in first person where as the PS2 version is all in third person.

>> No.7302251

>>7301093
>have sex, kill yourself
But I don't wanna get pozzed.

>> No.7302439

>>7300195
>i literally cannot stop outing myself as an sjw

>>7301093
>"i don't care about politics!"
>proceeds to make a wall of text of leftshit bullshit rhetoric
The parenthesis IS /pol/, pozzed is not. Poz started on /b/ with threads exposing fags who want poz dick, it was crazy to everyone who didn't know and those threads were made often and it stuck ever since. The way you out yourself is that this is exactly what sjws and Democrats did with pepe. Everyone uses it, but now that /pol/ does too it's theirs. Fucking retard. The reality is, even though you claim /pol/ sensibilities are newfag, /pol/ reflects a lot of oldfag culture. Because oldfag culture was highly offensive and no pun intended, politically incorrect.

>> No.7302764

>>7298402
>called gay

You mean pozzed?

>> No.7303508

is there a 60hz fix for PAL maken shao? if you just use GSM the audio in FMVs will still be slowed down and desync

>> No.7303558

>>7302439
>/pol/ reflects a lot of oldfag culture
Why are you so fucking dedicated to embarrassing yourself

>> No.7303623

>>7303558
Don't be stupid, I told you specifically what I was referring to. And I told you why that narrative was bullshit in the first place, even though yes there are a lot of trump/conservative newfags there, but newfags have invaded the rest of 4chan, but on the rest of the boards they were libsharts just like you. You have outed yourself as a newfag anyway so why are you talking?

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>>7303623
>yes there are a lot of trump/conservative newfags there
Yes, I'm talking to one who sounds insecure and protective over dumb meme phrases.

>> No.7303710

>>7303672
I don't care about the term, I care about faggots like you revising history in general and trying to redditize 4chan.

>> No.7303724

>>7300184
So it's actually based on real life then.

>> No.7303751

>>7303508
This is a good question. I presume the gameplay is slower than the NTSC-J release, right?

>> No.7303753

>>7303751
Yes.

>> No.7303757

>>7303753
Ugh, fucking Eurotrash can't do anything right.

>> No.7303771

>>7303757
I think it was a problem with every Atlus game on PS2. Maybe they just thought Europoors perceive time differently and wouldn't notice.
That audio issue is the only issue I recall having when forcing 60Hz, but I didn't play much of the game because of it. The cutscene files are the same between the PAL and NTSC-J versions so the audio slowdown is something in the code that would have to be disabled.

>> No.7303779

>>7303771
Should Europeans even be allowed to post in retro console threads? If I had it my way they'd be blocked as they never really played them with their fucky ratios and wrong speeds.

>> No.7303787

>>7295309
You are trying WAY too hard to fit in. It's a good game, and the nazi symbolism and imagery isn't anything to get bent out of shape regardless of your politics as I'm sure they just found it 'cool', as evident in several other games they've made. They weren't SJWs nor were they 1488 gas the juice types.

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7303801

>>7297253
>Early 00s animu
Kazuma Kaneko's art style really isn't anime at all

>> No.7303812

>>7300427
Hell yeah, Q Hayashida of Dorohedoro fame

>> No.7303815

>>7303710
Not the guy you were arguing with but the fact that you're getting this defensive over "4chan getting redditized" the same way people who share your political views get childishly defensive over other retarded shit is hilarious and makes you even more pathetic than those other pathetic people

>> No.7304539

>>7303815
>not the guy you're arguing with but i'm gonna continue the exact rhetoric he was while "he" didn't respond back.

I'm not political. I'm a radical centrist. Anti-sjw is centrist. EVERYONE hates you. Even minorities(polling proves this but my friends irl I already knew), and they are the most edgy irl than anyone. Kill yourself btw.

>> No.7304608

You can play maken shao in first person you fucking retards.
I hate how games like this have been co-opted by dreamcastrannies for console warring.

>> No.7304686

>>7304608
>You can play maken shao in first person you fucking retards
proof?

>> No.7304924

>>7303508
the game gives you the option to turn on 60 fps

>> No.7304926

>>7304924
how?

>> No.7304956

>>7304924
>>7304608
Legit want these proven. Be cool to try after work but I think you're talking out your ass.

>> No.7305803

>>7304539
>I'm a radical centrist
holy fuck lmao

>> No.7305916

>>7304539
The only radical centrist that exist is an Alt-Centrist on the political spectrum(one giant circle). An Alt-Centrist is pro-Nazi & pro-Commie.

A rational centrist is anti-Nazi and anti-Commie.

However it is possible to be anti-SJW with either a rational or radical centrist.

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7305918

>>7305916
Thanks, Jreg!

>> No.7306219

>>7296370
Pozzed is only an older term if you were a non-American, no one in the US was using until recently. It almost always came from Brits by my observation.

>> No.7306386
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>>7296370
>/tv/ is at least one of the most oldfag boards left

>> No.7306740

>>7305803
It was obviously a joke guy, but I am not a liberal or conservative, I have come to despise liberals the past 4 years though, because of shit like this.

>>7305916
See above.

>However it is possible to be anti-SJW with either a rational or radical centrist.
Of course it is, and like I said they have tried to make out anti-SJW to be nazi/pol/right wing, etc. That's just not true, polling even shows that every single demographic in the US hates it vast majority. SJWs are the ones creating problems, so to be just telling them to fuck off, that is you remaining neutral. Just like everybody did with jack thompson. It's so funny the difference between the consensus against Jack Thompson and the difference against sjws trying and succeeding in doing even worse shit.

>>7306219
I was talking about the origin of it on 4chan, and it has a specific meaning here.

>> No.7308053

>>7295309
Bumped from the last thread on page 10 ;)

>> No.7308569

>>7296370
unironically kill yourself, child

>> No.7310328

>>7308569
Fuck off to re ddit already.