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7272990 No.7272990 [Reply] [Original]

What's so good about it?

>> No.7273003

>>7272990
Looks better than the American SNES.

>> No.7273007

>>7272990
more memory than the mega drive. everything else wasnt "so good". as in 8bit bus, extremly slow cpu, sub standard resolution for 1991, shitty sony audio chip, forced hardware blur filter, and a street fighter unfriendly joypad. But hey it was built like a tank. I pulled mine from the desk a few times. Not a scratch on it.

>> No.7273014

>>7272990
It doesnt have sonic

>> No.7273020

It has a 10/10 game for every conceivable genre of its era.

>> No.7273030

>>7273020
The shooting games suck. The racing games suck. The fighting games are incomplete/bad ports. But it does have 10/10 RPGs.

>> No.7273032

>>7273030
Then, what's fzero, contra 3 or super turrican, and street fighter 2 the new challengers?

>> No.7273036

>>7273030
isnt super turbo primarily still played on snes

also consoles dont have good shooters so thats not a high bar

>> No.7273040

>>7273032
contra 3 kinda doo doo tho but i agree

>> No.7273042

>>7273040
You can turn up the difficulty in settings

>> No.7273063

>>7273032
Especially the New Challangers port sucked. On snes they used a slightly updated SF2 turbo engine. Instead of porting the cps2 game properly. And F Zero wasnt a good racing game. And i dont believe snes contra was so good either, other than offering a 2 player mode. Let me guess you were a snes-only kid.

>> No.7273070

>>7273036
>super turbo
3DO. There was no snes port.

>> No.7273072

>>7273063
I play megadrive too, faggot. SNES games are fun if you actually give them a fucking chance.

>> No.7273085

>>7272990
Unless that's a PAL-60 version then absolutely nothing.

>>7273014
kek

>> No.7273098

Great games and killed off Sega and Commodore.

>> No.7273112

>>7273072
I owned a bunch of snes'es, super famicoms, and rented and bought a million games. You just a pathetic herd animal with no perspective. Sucks to be you :D

>> No.7273216

>>7273003
This. The American SNES is an abomination.

>> No.7273390

>>7273098
Commodore miss their chance for CD rom drive for N64 (CPU support by NEC)

>> No.7273454

>>7273216
>>7273003
>Spyro, Shantae, Vile and Wuluigi
Purple for life.

>> No.7273562

>>7272990
Mode 5 & 7. That super power.

>> No.7273591

>>7272990
At least it's not the 5th gen.

>> No.7273809

>>7273003
That's a PAL machine which is shit, just get a Super Famicom like anyone who isn't a nostalgiatard basedbeard.

>> No.7273831

>>7272990
it makes segatards seethe and shit in their pants with rage

>> No.7274117

>>7272990
>What's so good about it?
The Games

>> No.7274147

3 words: Super Mario World

>> No.7274156

3 simple words: Super Mario World

>> No.7274181
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>>7273007
Even there, the advantage is dubious. Despite having twice as much RAM as the Mega Drive, all but 8 kb was locked away in separate banks. In order to use the remaining 120 kb, one would have to switch to one of the RAM banks, which would cut off access from the cartridge. So basically, all but 8 kb of the RAM on the SNES was totally useless and often unused. The Mega Drive could access all 64 kb RAM without limitation.

>> No.7274352

It's got some awesome games on it but overall shitty library. Try scrolling through hundreds of ROMs every time u want to play a few minutes of super punchout

>> No.7274714

>>7273112
>larp larp larp suck to be u lol
Jesus. What a cringey little child you are.

>> No.7274718

>>7272990
The games

>> No.7274743
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7274743

>>7272990
Honestly? Nothing. It was overrated then and it's overrated now. The games are either the usual boring Nintendo IPs, or extremely crippled with horrible slowdowns, lack of action, and general slow pace due to the anemic hardware. Nintendo cultists have spent 30 years pushing this narrative of false equivalency, trying to make the world believe this piece of garbage is somehow the best 16-bit console, when by all objective measures it isn't even close, and does not belong amongst the other 16-bit stars such as the Mega Drive, PC Engine, Amiga, Neo Geo. Like other Nintendo consoles, for anyone who isn't sucking off Mario 24/7, there is exactly zero appeal to this console, it should be ignored just like all their other shit consoles.

>> No.7274749

>>7274743
>Amiga
Aussie kun arrives again to seethe about Nintendo. Like every other single day of his life.

>> No.7274773
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7274773

>>7274749
Yes, Amiga, as the Amiga, despite being a whole 4 years older than the shit SNES, has a CPU that is 3 times faster. Nintendrones still have zero explanation for why the Amiga can play 3D games on stock hardware whilst the shit SNES requires an expensive and cheating expansion chip.

>> No.7274778

>>7274773
Despite you running damage control for the load of shit on /vr/ every single day of your sad life the Amiga is still a load of shit with no games worth playing.

>> No.7274791

>>7274718
Just about every sequel from NES to SNES is worse.

Punch out, Battletoads, Mario 1,2 and 3 all shit on what SNES put out.

>> No.7275938

>>7274743
>>7274773
The hardware could have been better, so what? It's the games that are the most important consideration

>> No.7277187
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7277187

>>7274714

>> No.7277331

>>7274181
It does have more color ram. Which is the main advantage. Which is why the average nintendolt assumes the snes was the best 16bit system.

>> No.7277339

>>7274181
>8 kb was locked away in separate banks. In order to use the remaining 120 kb, one would have to switch to one of the RAM banks

<Citation needed> idiot

>> No.7277349

>>7273020
>Run n' gun games slow as fuck.
>Here comes le rotation segment because look at all that rotation bro mode-7 ftw
>Racing games suck
>Sports games absolutely unplayable
Yeah I'll stick to the MD thanks.

>> No.7277364

>>7277339
https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Super_NES_Programming/SNES_memory_map
http://6502.org/tutorials/65c816opcodes.html

>> No.7277412

The whole point is, the snes is a cheap budget system. But since you have more c-ram and more ram for audio, it appears to be better than the competition at first glance. Nintendo was fully aware of that, so their main focus was software. Which is a profitable strategy they kept till this day.

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7277446

>>7274181
>>7277364
Presumably this had an easy workaround because I seriously doubt all those thousands of SNES games were operating using only 8kb of system RAM.

>> No.7277467

>>7272990
Compared to modern games, nothing

If I was stranded on a desert island with it, I would shoot myself. If I was stranded with something better like a playstation, I would play the games then shoot myself.

>> No.7277485

>>7277446
For comparison, the PC Engine also only had 8 kb RAM. On the SNES, 120 kb of the RAM was often unused, when it was needed it was a burdensome matter of fetching your data, switching to a RAM bank, depositing it there, switching back, fetching more data, and so on, which added to the incredibly slow performance that was so commonly seen in SNES games.

>> No.7277489

>>7272990
Its pretty good

>> No.7277512

>>7277349
>Run n' gun games slow as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl7D25I6yDc

>> No.7277695

You fuckers said these repeated, tired, sad shitposts would end with the rule change and that /vr/ board content would improve. Flush this place down the fucking drain.

>> No.7278184

>>7277187
>i fail therefore i wojak

>> No.7278206
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7278206

>>7277512
Is this supposed to be impressive? Everything is flat, lacking any animation whatsoever, and seemingly totally devoid of AI, everything is obviously on a predefined track. This is the best you nintendrones have to show for your shit hardware? It would be merely mediocre on better 16-bit platforms like the Mega Drive, Neo Geo, or Amiga. How utterly pitiful.

>> No.7278590

>>7278184
Yeah. After failure comes success. But not in your case. You will be a dense faggot forever.

>> No.7278601

>>7273032
f-queero is fucking shoight for emotionally under developed man children who still tongue molest the tit in their 40s, contra 3 is ok but riddled with gay slowdown, super turrican 2 is amazing ngl

>> No.7279680

>>7278590
>After failure comes success.
Is that what your mommy told you? Sorry to have to be the one to break it to you kiddo but she lied. Also you aren't the most smartest handsomest boy in the world. Yikes.

>> No.7280725
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7280725

>>7273007
>sub standard resolution for 1991, shitty sony audio chip

here's a little comparison that I made showing the differences between the SNES and mega Drive/ Genesis resolutions using Mortal Kombat II. The devs for the SNES game had to make their sprites skinnier horizontally to fill out the 8:7 aspect ratio to 4:3. Genesis/ Mega Drive comes close to 4:3 before upscale, but not quite. Bit extended colour pallete on the SNES does make a difference. Genesis/ Mega Drive sprites are actually higher resolution and look better overall. Both versions have their ups and downs.

>> No.7280836

nothing, get a mega drive asshole

>> No.7280854

>>7274773
>>7274743
Amiga is dogshit. All way is.

>> No.7280860

>>7280725
>256 x 224 in full resolution
Sad that most developers didn’t take full advantage of Mode 5.

>> No.7280875

>>7277485
>>7277446
What if Sony add 96kb or lessers 128kb RAM for audio PCM 9 channel.

>> No.7280909

>>7278206
Cope and seethe

>> No.7280913

>>7278206
Alien Solider like game? There one called Alisha’s Adventure.

>> No.7280916

>>7277349
SNES racing and sport title were amazing. What you smoking?

>> No.7280917

>>7278206
>Amigafag/Aussie-kun dickriding

>> No.7280940
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7280940

>>7280725

32x version. This one does use higher color 32x sprite layer and HUD layer, but still uses the Genesis 64 colour pallet for the BG layers.

>> No.7280945
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7280945

>>7280854
>>7280917
If the Amiga sucks so bad, why does it have far better run & gun games than the shit SNES? Could it perhaps be because the anemic SNES CPU runs at a mere 1/3rd the speed of all it's competitors, including the Mega Drive, PC Engine, and Amiga? Sad that nintendrones never got a good run & gun on their shoddy console.

>> No.7280991

>>7280725
The Genesis version has more frames of animation for their idle stances but less for pretty much everything else. Also it completely lacks the crouching punch and all associated animations.

>> No.7280998

>>7280945
>zero hit feedback, health just drains passively when taking damage
Turrican is trash.

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7281021

>>7280945
No way fag.

>> No.7281030

>>7280998
>play secret of mana
>get stunlocked to death

>> No.7281034

>>7281030
Secret of Mana is a turn based RPG in disguise. Its sequel is way better.

>> No.7281039

>>7277446
>>7277485
I'm not going to dare say you're wrong, but a casual glance at that memory map seems to suggest that you might be? WRAM is listed as bank $7E-$7F with "No ROM mapping" whether you're using LoROM or HiROM mapping. The 8k you are talking about is what is visible from the $00 bank (and the $7E-$7F is a shadow copy). It's been a LONG time since I hacked on 65816 CPUs but IIRC there is no particular advantage to accessing RAM through the $00 bank, only zero-page addressing and that is moveable. The mapping being the way it is is more of a hardware simplification for the 65816 so that interrupt tables and initial program code and such can live where the 6502 would have put them for compatibility and avoiding any SNES specific alterations. Once you initialise your own program code it's up to you to manage your bank addressing.

>> No.7281049

Only brainlets hate the American SNES. It's literally the best SNES because it can play Super Famicom games while PALtards got cucked out of Earthbound, FF, and Chorno Trigger.

>> No.7281054

>>7280945
Amiga games can run at 25/30fps to unburden the CPU and increase the on screen number of objects. The SNES like all sprites/tiles based machines only see a limited improvement from alternating display and logic so it's better to just go for 50/60fps all the time and simplify the games accordingly.

>> No.7281058

>>7281049
It's an emotional scar that will never completely heal, anon...

>> No.7281060

>>7281034
>sequel
So who buy repro cart

>> No.7281074

>>7281058
Then get the SNES Junior if you're such a fag about it.

>> No.7281135
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>>7280998
You've literally never played Turrican 3/Mega Turrican, because that's not at all how Turrican 3/Mega Turrican works. Nintendrones have such shit taste in games, I suppose it's not unexpected since they're such big fans of the shit SNES. Perhaps if you actually played these games you inexplicably hate so much (because they're not on your precious Mario Box?) you would come to realize just how much you've been missing out on all this time. Too bad that's never going to happen, I pity you.

>> No.7281139

>>7281135
There's Ruff 'n Tumble as always. Another log of shit for Amiga you post every time despite it sucking major ass.

>> No.7281145

>>7281135
>>7280945
>>7278206
Rent free cunt

>> No.7281194

>>7277349
>Sports games absolutely unplayable
???
>Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball
>Super Tennis
>International Super Star Soccer Deluxe
>Kirby's Dream Course
>lots of wrestling games, some of the best in the Fire Pro Wrestling series

>> No.7281208

>>7277512
>programmed by manfrend trenz
No fucking shit. He could make Doom run on base megadrive if he wanted to.

>> No.7281228

>>7281208
>Doom run on base
>if he wanted
He know MD is trash. So why care?

>> No.7281232

>>7281208
Doom can’t run without awful add on

>> No.7281280

>>7281232
Obviously that's just an exaggeration. The MD was powerful enough to run Wolf3D at full framerate without any additional chip though, maybe it could run a very stripped down and low res version of Doom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2wBHfVYf8U

>> No.7281452

>>7281280
>SFC can run Wolf3D at framerate too without additional chip.
Your point?

>> No.7281712

>>7281139
Why don't you like it?

>> No.7281724

>>7281194
I really don't think that WWE games count as sports games.

>> No.7281742

You guys are really petty...

>> No.7282137

Why is the Super Famicom console and its games so much cheaper than the SNES equivalents? Did they just produce more units or something?