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I legitimately love Doom 3. The atmosphere at times almost feels like an actual horror game, despite really just being a game where you run around destroying demons. I finished it on veteran over the holidays and loved every second of it. Just finished the first boss on Nightmare, and I have to say, I still think this game is incredible despite the basically perma 25 hp handicap.
The atmosphere, the art style, and the way demons/Hell is portrayed is just incredible. My only real complaint is how awful the shotgun is.
Why does this game get so much hate?

>> No.7264939

Boring gameplay, boring level design, bad graphics, does it even have music (I don't even remember if it does).

>> No.7264940

Things that are Doom:
>running 60mph, gunning down rooms of pig demons over a hammy metal soundtrack
Things that Doom 3 does:
>

>> No.7264946

>>7264929
>Why does this game get so much hate?
It was completely different from all previous Doom games, had a bigger narrative than "shotgun go boom", and no sticky tape on Mars.

I agree with your assessment. A great game even to this day but I do understand why some may roast it.

>> No.7264950

Flashlight simulator.

>> No.7264964

>>7264929
zoom zoom zoom

>> No.7264971

>>7264929
Doom 3 sucked. Could only handle 3-4 enemies on screen at a time. Thank god my xbox copy came with the original with new levels.

>> No.7264973

>>7264929
It's cool for kiddies to hate on it. I liked when it came out and still do. Last good id shooter.

>> No.7264983

>>7264973
It should have been called something else as it was nothing like Doom 1 or 2.

>> No.7264989

>>7264929
It's a fine game, just not a good Doom game.

>> No.7265037

>>7264989
If it were a fine game, people would like it. It isn't. The rather mediocre Halflife 2 buried this game and the only reason it even gets discussed at all today is because it is called Doom.

>> No.7265056

>>7264946
Yes, I can see how little it has to do with the original Doom's gameplay, but it was a great FPS nonetheless. Surprisingly enough it had a great story too, all things considered. I always find funny how much they shilled the tape recording as this groundbreaking narrative method in BioShock when even Doom fucking 3 was already doing it.

>> No.7265139

>>7264940
Yes they are very different

>> No.7265141

>>7264929
Is not Doom 3 how the original devs really intended the game to be?

>> No.7265152

Vanilla Doom 3 is the best Doom, definitely. Classic Doom is good, especially Ultimate Doom, but Doom 3 is better.

Nu-Doom however is pissfilter garbage, awful games.

>> No.7265181

>>7264939
>bad graphics
The graphics were really good when it first came out. I remember getting it a couple years after it came out, and even then I was impressed. Yeah, they're really rough now, especially the shadows, but it's really not a bad looking game.

>> No.7265224

>Can't use flashlight and guns at the same time
>Flashlight is more powerful than the pistol
>Weak sounds
>Slow movement
>Monsters silently spawn behind you
>Zero replayability

>> No.7265782

>>7264929
Worst shotgun not only in a DOOM game but an id game is already pretty bad to start. Thankfully there are better weapons to be had, and the Hell stuff is cool.

>> No.7265969

>>7265056
>I always find funny how much they shilled the tape recording as this groundbreaking narrative method in BioShock when even Doom fucking 3 was already doing it.
Both games took it from System Shock, with Bioshock's dev having made SS2 previously. He never hid this fact.

>> No.7265974

>>7264929
I agree with you OP. I'm playing through on the Switch right now and it's far better than I remember. There's definitely a lot of bullshit to it as well but I'm genuinely having a cracking time. It's also a bit of a "WOW FUTURE!" moment playing it in handheld mode.

>> No.7265993

>>7265224
>>Can't use flashlight and guns at the same time
That's the point. Have you played BFG edition with that stupid mounted flashlight? It makes it pointless because you always have it on.

>> No.7266012

>>7265224
Funneled

>> No.7266021

>>7264939
That's some top zoomer reddit PCMR faggotry if you think Doom 3 graphics are bad, ffs.

And of course there's no music, it's a horror game.

>boring
Fuck no it isn't, and there's nothing boring about the level design, you're just making shit up.

>> No.7266054

>>7264939
Bad graphics? Back in the day, they were so impressive, so far ahead from anything out at the time, that many didn't believe they were real. Id was accused of using prerendered footage on the game's trailers. Save from character models, that did age badly, the textures and lighting still look impressive today.

>> No.7266510

>>7264964
Zoomers were like infants when Doom 3 came out, you senile fuck.

>> No.7266524

>>7264929
i thought the weapons felt weak in doom 3 its worth playing though

>> No.7266535

>>7265969
You are right, the developers never hid it, but the press treated it as an innovation.
>>7266021
>>7266054
Yeah the graphics were absurd for the time. The shadows were like that as a choice, so that you wouldn't see shit outside of the lit areas.

>> No.7266552

>>7265224
>Can't use flashlight and guns at the same time
That's the point, nigger. It's ridiculous how casual faggots ruin everything. The BFG edition allows you that faggotry, along with ramped up gamma because the original was waaaah too dark.

>> No.7267310

Hated DOOM3 when it came out, loved it 15 years later when I played through it again with a high def pack.

>> No.7267502

Best atmosphere. The others just replicate the first game

>> No.7267561

If this game didnt have the DOOM name on it noone would sperg out over it.

>> No.7267984

Doom 3 is really good.

>> No.7268010

it's a great game, excellent graphics
the problem with it is enemies just spawn based on walking past a certain point, over and over again

>> No.7268401

>>7265141
It is never a good idea to go down this road

>> No.7268423

I feel like Doom 3 was one of the hallmarks of a phenomenon that I like to call "living room games". The best way to define a "living room game" is to first define a "bedroom game", the kind of game you don't want people to see you playing, due to how childish and embarrassing they are. For more specific examples, Jak and Daxter is a bedroom game, Uncharted is a living room game.

>> No.7268431

>>7268423
I consider Doom 3 to be a bedroom game in the sense that you dim the lights and close to the door to isolate yourself and immerse yourself in the dankness

>> No.7268447

>>7268423
I think you're just insecure, dude.

>> No.7268457

>>7266054
This game came out around the same time as Halflife 2, dude. Source engine games had realistic looking textures, while this game looked like it was made out of plastic.

>> No.7268464

>>7264929
I could not play this when I was teeneger.
The pentagram desktop shortcut...
Vibes from real on the main menu...

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7268467

A closet within a closet.

B R A V O C A R M A C K

>> No.7268556

Can we compile a list of FPS protagonists that have the name [game]-[noun]
-Doomguy
-Postal Dude
-Duke Nuke them
-Duskdude
-Doomslayer [kinda double dipping]

>> No.7268580

>>7268431
Fair enough.

>>7268447
I don't mean it that way, it's the 2000s and companies wanted to avoid the kiddy connotations video games carried. It's why movie games were born down the years.

>> No.7268663

>>7268457
That Anon was correct. Everyone was impressed with Doom 3's graphics at the time.

>> No.7268884

>>7265152
i agree nudoom is shit, but doom 3 is even worse

>> No.7268901

Bad shotgun = bad game.

>> No.7269359

>>7268464

Sissy

>> No.7269374

>>7264939
>bad graphics
The only thing wrong with the graphics are the human/npc models imo. Other than that it still looks great.

>> No.7271197

>>7264929
Doom 3 failed to live up to enormous expectations, and for good reason.
It was a complete departure in terms of gameplay.
Instead of fast-paced action, we got a shitty imitation of System Shock.
Also, the whole "enemy spawns behind you every 30 seconds" got tired very quickly.

>> No.7271210

>>7264929
Not retro.

>> No.7271286

>>7271197
It's like the inverse of the transition from classic RE to RE4. Maybe this is why I like Doom 3 more than its predecessors (though I still respect Doom 1 and 2).

>> No.7272129

>>7268663
No, it's enough to read some reviews on gamefaqs from that time to know it's not true.

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>>7271210
Not retro

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>> No.7273319

>>7264929
i think it overused darkness just a bit too much but i agree, it was a fun ass game, for its time it actually did very innovative things and i really liked the art direction . It also rellied a lot on jumpscares but that kinda subsided by the later levels.

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>>7264929
People who say it was nothing like Doom 1 or 2 are retards, it was a LOT like the previous games before the zoomers and tumor-boomers began popularizing Doom as some "ULTRA FAST 150 MPH KILLFEST" when it was originally locked at 30 FPS and played by the overwhelming majority of players with keyboard controls only, while mouse was optional, and was considered to be a lot slower paced and horror driven than many other games of the time, in fact if not one of the scariest games ever released up to that point.

People who point to the multiplayer community are missing the point since DOOM sold on its singleplayer. Saying it was meant to be ultra-fast are the same stupid faggots that thought bunnyhopping was intended in Quake 1.

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>>7264929
People who say it was nothing like Doom 1 or 2 are retards, it was a LOT like the previous games before the zoomers and tumor-boomers began popularizing Doom as some "ULTRA FAST 150 MPH KILLFEST" when it was originally locked at 30 FPS and played by the overwhelming majority of players with keyboard controls only, while mouse was optional, and was considered to be a lot slower paced and horror driven than many other games of the time, in fact if not one of the scariest games ever released up to that point.

People who point to the multiplayer community are missing the point since DOOM sold on its singleplayer. Saying it was meant to be ultra-fast are the same stupid faggots that thought bunnyhopping was intended in Quake 1, of which Carmack himself felt bunnyhopping went against the designed intent of the game itself, much like wall-strafing in Doom 1.

>> No.7273502

>>7268423
I don't think anyone gives a shit what game they're playing, unless it's an erotic game.

>> No.7273814

>>7264929
the game that killed id
https://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=1&time=20000601040557

>> No.7273826

>>7273389
Doom 1 and 2 definitely don't consist of walking down linear hallways while an occasional imp teleports behind you. Stop bullshitting.

>> No.7274358

>>7264939
>bad graphics
dude. there were trailers and demos shown way before the game came out, it EASILY btfo everything else. we had to wait until hl2 and far cry for something more technically impressive

>> No.7274375

>>7273389
>played by the overwhelming majority of players with keyboard controls only,
I see this posted a lot and I wonder where this supposed fact came from. I always played Doom and Wolfenstein 3D with a mouse and I don't know why anybody wouldn't.

>> No.7274460

>>7273826
No, but it did consist of you walking down hallways and having monster closets spawn enemies immediately after you picked something up.

>>7274375
>I see this posted a lot and I wonder where this supposed fact came from.
The fact that the game's default control scheme is keyboard only.

>> No.7274472

>>7273814
No, that would be RAGE

>> No.7274814

>>7274460
>monster closets
Hate this shit

>> No.7274820

>>7268423
>>7268447
>>7273502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF4T9TSwxAo

Mom walks in.