/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7252168]

What are the best games for the sega saturn? Where can I find translated games? Please no console wars in this thread.

[Anonymous No.7252187]

>>7252168
Strikers 1944

[Anonymous No.7252212]

Most of the Street Fighters are good.

Sonic Jam is fun, albeit the games are ported a little unoptimized (seems to be the worst with Sonic 2).

Should check out the racing games for sure (Sega Rally, Daytona), although they are somewhat light on content.

And I like Sega's light gun games personally (even HotD).

[Anonymous No.7252251]

>>7252168
OutRun, GnG collection, Street Fighter 2 collection, Panzer Dragoon 1 and 2, Sega Rally, Daytona, Layer Section, Virtua Fighter 2, Radiant Silvergun, and Grandia

[Anonymous No.7252270]

>>7252168
>What are the best games for the sega saturn?
Should we tell him, bros?

There are no good games for the Sega fuckin' Shiturn.

[Anonymous No.7252321]

>>7252270
stop sucking so much cock

[Anonymous No.7252447]

>>7252168
Fighters Megamix, Fighting Vipers, Virtua Cop, Daytona USA, Virtua Fighter 2, Virtual-On, Panzer Dragoon, Last Bronx, Burning Rangers.

[Anonymous No.7252701]

Shining Force 3 Parts 1-3, Dragon Force, Enemy Zero, Guardian Heroes, Dark Saviour, Burning Rangers, Panzer Dragoon (All games), Radiant Silvergun are all definitely worth a play.

[Anonymous No.7252735]

>>7252168
castlevania, it's the best version of the game

[Anonymous No.7252780]

>>7252168
panzer dragon

nothing else matters

[Anonymous No.7252803]

>>7252780
Please be respectful to other users contributing to this thread, you FUCKING CUNT.

[Anonymous No.7252898]

>>7252780
>>7252803
Hate to break your little faggot circle jerk, panzer dragoon isn't even very good outside of the art direction.

The sequels are better

[Anonymous No.7252905]

>>7252270
stop posting this stupid kike you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.7253051]

>>7252898
I was telling him to stop being an asshole, faggot.

[Anonymous No.7253178]

>>7252321
Out the way.

[Anonymous No.7253225]

>>7252168
Which model did you get? Don't buy physical Saturn games, the market is too bloated and you'll be stuck paying $50 a piece or more for good games. Take the ODE pill and your life will be so much better. Alternately, get a Pseudosaturn cart and then you can play burned games, but compatibility isn't 100%, and you don't want to be the guy burning CDRs in 2021.

Also, how the fuck are we supposed to recommend you good games if we don't know what genres you like?

7252270
This meme isn't funny, no matter how hard you desperately try and force it.

>>7252735
It's not the best, but it has enough new content that it's definitely worth checking out (especially now that the English translation is finished).

[Anonymous No.7253287]

>>7253225
>Take the ODE pill and your life will be so much better. Alternately, get a Pseudosaturn cart and then you can play burned games, but compatibility isn't 100%, and you don't want to be the guy burning CDRs in 2021.

this is good advice. I'm still burning CDs but will eventually get a MODE.

[Anonymous No.7253443]

[Anonymous No.7253460]

>>7253225
>Alternately, get a Pseudosaturn cart and then you can play burned games, but compatibility isn't 100%
ODE's don't have 100% compatibility either. Mod Chips are the only thing with 100% compatibility at this point.

[Anonymous No.7253484]

>>7253460
MODE has 100% compatibility, I'm pretty sure Deunan's do as well. I know that the Satiator has issues with a few games but I think Fenrir is 100% as well except for Bug! if I remember right.

The new Lunar fan translation is not working on all ODEs, but that's because the author didn't build it right, and they're currently fixing the problem.

The only real issue ODEs have is it makes it more difficult to play Croc, but that's due to a software issue in the game itself (which occurs on all Saturn systems in all media formats).

[Anonymous No.7253487]

>>7253225
I got this one. My only concern is it's 100v but I'm in the usa so it'll get 120v. I'm hoping the extra voltage won't make it heat up or damage it. Planning to get MODE and I love every genre. Especially fighters and shmups.

[Anonymous No.7253494]

>>7253487
Oops wrong image

[Anonymous No.7253503]

>>7253484
>The new Lunar fan translation is not working on all ODEs, but that's because the author didn't build it right, and they're currently fixing the problem.

The author built it just fine. It runs on a modded Saturn with a CD-R. The ODE is not 100% compatible.

[Anonymous No.7253506]

>>7253503
Oh quit being a dick

[Anonymous No.7253508]

>>7253506
If it works on a real Saturn with a $20 mod chip on a CD-R, but doesn't work on your expensive ODE, then your ODE is not 100% compatible and is doing something wrong.

[Anonymous No.7253514]

>>7253508
I'm not him. I'm just pointing out that you are specifically choosing a tone and syntax to be as confrontational as possible yet not being outright aggressive so that if someone points it out you can shrug and pretend to be innocent rather than the manipulative asshole you are.

[Anonymous No.7253515]

Saturn games I like.
- Baku Baku
- Brain Dead 13
- Detana Twinbee Yahoo! Deluxe Pack
- Die Hard Arcade
- Keio Flying Squadron 2
- Last Bronx
- Mr Bones
- Sonic 3D
- SteamGear Mash
- The Story of Thor 2
- Time Gal & Ninja Hayate
- Uno DX

Saturn games that probably aren't very good but I like them anyway and Sega fans will get upset if you don't mention them:
- Clockwork Knight
- NiGHTS into Dreams

Saturn games that are overrated (like their developer):
- Guardian Heroes

[Anonymous No.7253517]

>>7253487
Jap Saturn chads RISE UP

You're fine, Japanese Saturns can run on 120v without issue (both regions share power supplies). You can also grab a mobius replacement PSU for like $80 if you ever run into trouble with your power supply and aren't capable of recapping it.

MODE is civilization. My advice to you is to only use redump images (they are an example of what can happen when the power of intense autism is harnessed for good), and only put games on your SD card/hard drive/USB stick that you know you will play, or know you will want to play. If you just throw the entire US/PAL/JAP catalogue onto your storage device you're gonna be hit with decision paralysis hard every time you boot it up, and it'll also take fucking forever to scroll through the menu.

Also, MODE can backup the Saturn's internal memory to an SD card now, so make sure to back up your saves every once in a while in case your battery dies (or you need to do a swap).

[Anonymous No.7253521]

Why is saturn stuff so expensive

[Anonymous No.7253523]

>>7253514
I'm sorry you can't handle the fact that your $200 ODE is less compatible than a $20 mod chip.

[Anonymous No.7253526]

>>7253508
> It doesn't work on a poorly built fan hack, therefor it's not 100% compatible

You are stupid. Probably autistic, but definitely stupid. Also, the community is fixing the translation, so if it isn't compatible now it will be in a few days.

[Anonymous No.7253530]

>>7253526
> It doesn't work on a poorly built fan hack
The fan hack was built properly using Sega's official build tools. Try again.

[Anonymous No.7253531]

7253530
If it was built to the same standard as official Saturn games than it would work on ODEs. Use your head.

[Anonymous No.7253560]

Learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.7253563]

magic knight rayearth if youre looking for a fun zelda clone

[Anonymous No.7253632]

>>7253531
If the ODEs implemented their security check the same way mod chips have for the past 20+ years it would work fine too. Mod chips send the spoofed ring at boot during the security check and only then like they should. Pseudo Saturn does this as well. And the System Disc disables the security check entirely.

Instead the ODEs appear to be doing something dumb and sending the spoofed security ring every time a call to an address at or above that region of the disc is issued, which is not accurate to how a real Saturn behaves. After passing the security check, a real Saturn will read whatever data is on the disc at that sector, whether it's a security ring, CD Audio, or game data. Sega's standard for size is simply to allow enough space for a security ring. But since at this point we're talking about playing a fan patch that's on either a burned disc or an ODE, the security ring becomes meaningless. So there's no reason a patch, hack, or homebrew game shouldn't be able to use that extra space for things like improved FMV quality and what not. But to work on an ODE, the patch creators now have to lower FMV quality and start ripping out files they hope aren't used and hope the game will still run, even though it works just fine on a Saturn running off a CD.

In short, the patch works on the following:
A Stock Saturn using a Pseudo Saturn Cart.
A Stock Saturn using a System Disc.
A Saturn with a Mod Chip.
A Stock Saturn using a Satiator.

So is the patch built wrong? Or is the ODE not accurately emulating how a real Saturn with a real disc drive behaves?

[Anonymous No.7253646]

>>7252270
The doom port could have been good. But they decided to put god awful music in it.

[Anonymous No.7253647]

>>7253531
>>7253632
And another fun fact. The patch will work on your ODE if you load up a System Disc image first to properly disable the security check, the way the ODE should have done it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.7253650]

7253632
The Lunar fan translation has already been fixed, and works with ODEs now, so we can drop the autism already anon.

[Anonymous No.7253657]

>>7253650
The patch has been "fixed" by having FMV quality lowered and files ripped out. And until the ODEs fix the way they handle their security checks, it's just a matter of time until the the next patch doesn't work.

The point is, the ODE is not 100% compatible with how a real Saturn with a real disc drive behaves.

[Anonymous No.7253676]

7253657
No it hasn't, you don't know what you are talking about. The FMVs for Lunar were all reincoded to remove the borders and are higher quality now.

I know this is 4chan and all, but really dude, I don't ask much, all I want is for people to actually know what the hell they are talking about before they post. That's it. I don't think that's too much to ask.

[Anonymous No.7253692]

>>7253676
Some of the bigger FMVs had their frame rates reduced from 24fps to 15fps and the data rates lowered to shave down the data. PCM files that are thought to be unneeded were also removed.

Why don't you actually take a look at the CPK files between the broken and fixed versions?

[Anonymous No.7253756]

>>7253521
Are you talking about US Saturn games? If so, it's because they didn't sell well in the first place, the unusual box size caused a lot of copies to be damaged or tossed, and for English speakers those are the only copies available. Supply, demand, and e-celebs causing a dip in the former and rise in the latter all contribute to the fucked prices. Most Japanese stuff is relatively cheap or at the very least haven't jumped in price much in the last twenty years. I got a mint, 100% complete copy of Puyo Puyo Sun for like $20 from a US seller. I think the best version of Daytona USA tops out at $40 if it's totally complete. Satakore has a VERY detailed listing of what every game included in the case. If you're not a fullblown collectorfag like me things get cheaper unless you go chasing Taromaru or some of the other weird collector's edition box sets.
>>7253560
You're very right as the Japanese library is phenomenal.
As for recommendations, Vampire Savior is a pretty solid port though fighting game purists will complain that it has some vague inaccuracies and some resolution compromises. Groove On Fight is another stylish fighting game that differs a bit more from its arcade release but it's still fun and has tag mechanics. The Saturn version of Dead or Alive is solid too. Fighters Megamix is basically a Sega 3D fighting game on drugs.
If you learn moon you can play Devil Summoner and Soul Hackers. If you hate yourself you can play Ronde, which is comically dog shit.
Dragon Force is a great strategy RPG, even with Working Designs fucking with it.
IIRC the Konami arcade ports are typically better on the PS1. Additionally, a lot of games abuse composite video to achieve transparency effects.

[Anonymous No.7253805]

>>7253514
Not that guy. Just wanted to say fuck your sensitivity, eat shit and grow a spine.

[Anonymous No.7254038]

>>7253805
Thank you for saying it.

[Anonymous No.7254168]

>>7252270
based bernie bro

[Anonymous No.7254281]

Fighters Megamix is the best exclusive I've played but I mostly play Sonic Jam or Vampire Savior on mine.

[Anonymous No.7254295]

>>7252168
Magic Knight Rayearth, Battle Garegga, DonPachi and DoDonPachi, all the Panzer Dragoon games, Bulk Slash, Knights into Dreams, House of the Dead, Virtua Cop and Area 51, Strikers 1945, Gunbird, Sengoku Blade, Steam Hearts, the best version of Policenauts, Resident Evil has an extra mode but doesn't have auto-aim.

As a kid I had a lot of fun with Mega Man 8, Tomb Raider, Sonic R, Clockwork Knight and Braindead 13.

[Anonymous No.7254383]

What games, if any, have worse Japanese versions than US versions?
I've only played Japanese versions of games so far as they're often identical or superior to other regions.

[Anonymous No.7254429]

>>7252270
Eat shit troll.

[Anonymous No.7254653]

>>7252168
You can find patched games at cdromance.com, you fat gay retard from Hell. Now stop touching kids.

[Anonymous No.7254698]

>>7252270
Based

[Anonymous No.7254710]

Has anyone seen a pal copy of this lately?

[Anonymous No.7256225]

>>7254295
>no waku waku 7
sort your life out m8

[Anonymous No.7256526]

>>7256225
I heard load times on the saturn make it unplayable

[Anonymous No.7256534]

>>7253484
Fenrir cannot do disc swapping mid-game as of yet and Bug! is the only game that Fenrir outright fails on (you can't load the first level).

[Anonymous No.7257112]

>>7256534
I have a MODE so I don't have to worry about compatibility issues, but in terms of the Fenrir and compatibility/disc swapping it's really overblown.

If someone says "Give me $113 and I'll give you a device that will let you play literally every US Saturn game except a mediocre platformer and a terrible FMV game" than you're still getting a pretty damned good deal.

When it comes to Saturn games, an ODE will pay for itself extremely quickly.

[Anonymous No.7257480]

>>7257112
As stated earlier in this thread, MODE has compatibility issues too.

[Anonymous No.7257505]

>>7252168
Is English Sakura wars working on ode and if so may I be linked to a patched rom?

[Anonymous No.7257618]

>>7256225
I'm not a big fighting game fan myself but I can appreciate the appeal. The Saturn has a great selection of them.

Bernieposters on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.7257656]

>>7253225
>you don't want to be the guy burning CDRs in 2021.

Suck my cock, elitist faggot. I'm going copy an .avi of your mom getting piped by a jew onto 1500 floppy discs and sell it on BBS. Then I'm going to fax your grandma a xeroxed copy of my ballsack.
You CD's nuts I'm gonna burn all over your face.

[Anonymous No.7258301]

>>7257480
It literally doesn't