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723958 No.723958 [Reply] [Original]

Why retro games are better.

>You actually own what you're buying
>Most consoles will still be playable in 20 years unlike cheaply designed consoles like PS3
>They are games instead of interactive movies
>Most franchises hadn't gone to shit yet

>> No.723969

you forgot
>didn't have to be connected to the internet in order to play single player game

>> No.723971

I agree.

>> No.723974

>>723958
Also Devs could make unique games, and not need to sell 5 million copies for it to be "successful"

>> No.723975

>>723958
Nintendo still keeps most of that alive

>> No.723980

>>723958
>hahaha oh shit i'm jumping to the left what the fuck am i doing

>> No.723990

>>723958
>i like letting my retarded brother THINK he's the one playing, my parents are in on the joke too

>> No.723996

>>723975
Besides from wanting people to buy the GBA as a $200 controller, the GC was Nintendo's last traditional console before they relied on waggle and touch gimmicks.

Modern Nintendo is just as tired and irrelevent as Sega.

>> No.724003

>>723958
Seriously, my roommates don't give a shit about videogames, but love playing mario on the snes because "if i have like 30-60 mins of free time it's a perfect time killer. simple fun. i can play like 4 levels of mario before i get past the title screen on the ps3 games."
and like you said, so many games now are just interactive movies.

>> No.724005

>you actually own what you're buying

This is fucking wrong and it's always been wrong. Whether it's music, a movie, video games; you buy the right to enjoy it, NEVER to own it; whether it's physical or digital.

The only people that own things are publishers; and if it's indie it's the developer

>> No.724009

>>724005
Physical goods are your private property. With consoles there's no EULA and "licensed not sold" bullshit.

>> No.724014
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>>723969
This is what drove me the fuck away from the current gaming scene. This is completely infuriating. The whole 'interactive movies' point is pretty much true, too. I want to play a god damned game, for fucks sake.

>> No.724016

>>724014
Don't forget cut scene selection simulators like Heavy Rain.

>> No.724023

I think you guys pretty much nailed the point already, but I agree that modern "games" just don't even feel like games anymore.

I was thinking the other day, would a new console released in this day and age, that solely played games, no dashboard, no Netflix apps, no online....could that even be remotely successful? Or would people see its simplicity as merely a gross lack of features.

If a company put something like that out, I know I'd be really interested, and would have a hell of a lot of respect for them doing so.

>> No.724024

>>723958
I had a Nes, a SNES and a dreamcast die on me while I was playing.
Still, I admit that they lasted far longer than my 3 dead xbox 360.

Also, I mostly agree.
But, you actually own most of what you're buying. As for what you don't, at least it doesn't take up space in your house.
I also think that there are not that much interactive movies out there. Tons of real games are produced every year.

I admit that I tend to prefer retro videogames, but there are not only bad sides to modern gaming. Clearly.

>> No.724031

You forgot to add that a lot of retro games are ridiculously cheap.

>> No.724035

>>724024
Though I must admit that mostly, the gaming industry is heading toward the wrong direction.

>> No.724051

>>724014
amen dude, i remember when i saw my roommate trying to play assassins creed (our internet was down at the time) and he couldn't, that was when i found out about that bullshit for the first time - such fucking bullshit

>> No.724052

>>724024
Were they played on a carpet or poorly ventilated? There could be other issues like not unplugging the power brick from the wall and letting them continue to draw heat and electricity in standby mode (Japanese games come with notes telling you to unplug the console when you're done).

>> No.724053

>>724023
Ouya
It'll have some emulators too

>> No.724067

>>724024
As a collector, and hoarder, I see a LOT of consoles. I have never ever had an NES that plain didn't work, nor have I gotten an SNES that is crapped out. They just get dirty. But I have a literal pile of Genesis 1s and rev1s and a few master systems that just don't work and I cannot for the life of me figure out why... But those are over 20 years old, and the pile of broken xboxes everyone has is more impressive.

>> No.724068

>>723990
>tfw your younger siblings bagan to realise they weren't actually playing the games

>> No.724070

10 years ago
>buy a game
>insert disc/cartridge
>turn console on
>play game
>enjoy entirety of game

today
>buy a game
>insert disc
>turn on console
>download system update
>internet connection failed
>reconnect internet connection
>download system update
>install system update
>install game to hard disk
>finally play game
>rest of game is piecemealed into DLC

>> No.724076

>>724016
Ha, don't pretend there weren't retro CD games were worse than Heavy Rain in that regard.

>> No.724082

>>723975
They do not.

Consoles cheaply made
Franchises gone to shit

>> No.724083

>>724067
Apparently some morons try to turn them on with a NES power cord and it blows them up.

>> No.724098

Shit that now comes in "special editions" was packaged with normal releases back in the day: maps, posters, feelies, etc.

>> No.724102

>>723958
There are pluses and minuses. I grew up in the 8- and 16-bit era so many of the changes in the game industry really turn me off. However, I find most modern games more fun than most retro games.

My biggest peeves between now and then are the strengthening region-locking making it difficult to import games that won't be localized (thanks, Nintendo) and the reliance on internet connections for everything.

>> No.724108

>>724098
That depended entirely on the publisher and, even then, the maps and goods were normally for first print runs only. Not much different from being labeled 'special edition'.

>> No.724109

>>724068
anybody here discover that you can move the ducks in duck hunt with player 2 controller and then secretly do it when your sibling was playing and they had no clue?

>> No.724110

>>724102
Nintendo has become more arrogant than ever with region locking, even locking out their handhelds for the first time when the company has lost a ton of money in recent years.

>> No.724115

>>724070
this.

i've just shut my 360 off a few times when i wanted to sit down and play a game and was met with this ocean of loose stool. tired of that shit.

>> No.724121

>>724023
>If a company put something like that out, I know I'd be really interested, and would have a hell of a lot of respect for them doing so.
I agree. Retro gamers aren't a hard bunch to please. We're not the ones begging for all this online and social media shit in consoles.

>> No.724131

All this, and not one of you makes any homebrew games.

>> No.724139

>>724131
Do you make "AAA" games?

>> No.724141

>PS3
>cheaply designed

Really? if we are going to criticise reliability in the current gen then the 360 is far far more culpable.

>> No.724151

>>724141
I mentioned PS3 because my console had to be repaired or replaced FOUR times.

>> No.724156

Another big part of why retro gaming (in it's time) was better: fucking secrets in games.

No gamefaqs, no let's plays, walkthroughs.

A subscription to EGM, talking to friends, picking up the occasional strategy guide. I loved that feeling of "what the fuck just happened" when Reptile would drop in and give you some archaic message.

>> No.724163

>>724121
for real, i bought a GAMING console to PLAY GAMES, not to do shit i can already do on my fucking computer, god its like they're so fascinated by what they COULD do they didn't stop to think if they SHOULD

like my use of caps?

>> No.724168

>>724156
Lol and vidya rumours. All that shit about Mew and the SS Anne truck back in the day.

>> No.724173

>>724163
Yes. :-)

>> No.724176

>>724131
A: You don't know that.
B: Enjoying games and wanting to make games are totally different things. Hell, many game makers don't even like playing games.
C: In either case we don't have to, there's a lot of retro and even modern gaming to explore. Hell, even homebrews.

>> No.724195

Does anybody try to give their mancave a retro atmosphere to fit in with the consoles?

>> No.724201

all i can say is i appreciate the fact that older games are largely quite accessible and affordable and i have the freedom to just NOT play the newer bullshit

between emulation and the used market i can find any old game i really wanna play and enjoy the hell out of it

>> No.724209

>>724023
>could that even be remotely successful?
No.

>> No.724223

>>724121
>could that even be remotely successful?
Not without a highly active homebrew scene. Major developers wouldn't make games for it, and consumers wouldn't buy it if it had no games.

>> No.724268

>You can back up your save data (no block on copying files like PS3 games)
>Games came in more than just crappy DVD cases
>Carts are more durable than discs

>> No.724295

I like the older manuals. They were usually more informative, while also being entertaining.

I've lost count of how many times I've opened a modern game's box only to be greeted by a two page manual, with just controls and maybe and advertisement.

>> No.724296

>>724268
But the carts for N64 and SNES came in cardboard! Blah, I wish they were good quality cases

>> No.724321

>>724296
That was Nintendo's fault. Sega had the glorious clamshell cases which is why 90% of Genesis games are in much better condition than SNES games.

>> No.724328
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724328

>Paying for cheatcodes
>Secrets are usually now dlc
>Content locked already on disc, unlock by paying for dlc
>Withholding content that was finished by game release and charging it as dlc

Next thing you know, you'll be paying for regular updates in order to play newer games. All the nickel and diming they pull now is terrible. Sure, back then they tried to pull some stupid gimmicky crap, but it's getting more ridiculous and people are buying into it without using their heads and saying no to this crap.

>> No.724337

>>724321
Yeah, it's too bad nobody collects sega games though.

>> No.724347

>>724337
>it's too bad nobody collects sega games

If more people collected MegaDrive/Genesis games, then the prices on eBay would probably be as bad as the SNES'.

>> No.724353

>>724347
Yeah, one of the few reasons I'm glad Genesis collecting is not as popular. Wish I could say the same for Sega CD.

>> No.724357

>>724347
>If more people collected MegaDrive/Genesis games, then the prices on eBay would probably be as bad as the SNES'.
I got both Ecco the Dolphin games complete in box for $7 each. Can't do that on pretty much any other mainstream console.

>> No.724420

>They are games instead of interactive movies

"interactive movies" is a really broad term though but I totally know what you refer to. I fucking hate QTEs and cutscenes every single step I take.

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>>724328

>Withholding content that was finished by game release and charging it as dlc

Fun fact: Several levels that were dropped from Garfield: Caught In The Act so it could be released in time for Christmas were later released on the Sega Channel.

>>724357
I just got Revenge of Shinobi and Shinobi III complete for $7-8 each. I was pleasantly surprised since the Amazon description just said "used". Revenge was even the first version of the game with Batman and Rambo, and even came with a Golden Axe poster.

>> No.724447

>>724430
Fun fact: Everyone who ever paid for Sega Channel can't access those games anymore. Just like the digital only releases of today in 10 years.

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724467

And don't forget, the next big thing with the next gen consoles.
>you can't lend/borrow games or else they become unplayable

>> No.724481

>>724016
Point and Click games require mad skillz, am I right?

>> No.724497

>Games don't hold your hand for tutorials that last an entire 20 hours of the fucking game.

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>>724051
>mfw all my purchased XBLA games are reverted to demos

>> No.724530

So much hate for interactive movies. They are just a genre of entertainment between movies, which can be awesome, and games, which can be awesome. Heavy Rain sucked, but Adventure games are pretty much the precursor of great interactive movies. I look forward to that future, though I still love traditional games, and there's no reason you guys shouldn't as well.

>> No.724539

>They were actually challenging
>Actually focused on stories and player engagement
>While challenging, anyone can pick up a lot of these games and have fun
>Sega and Capcom haven't lost their magic yet

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724550

>>724539
>Sega and Capcom haven't lost their magic yet

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724558

>>724539
>Sega and Capcom haven't lost their magic yet

>> No.724567

>>724550
>>724558

Can't tell if you guys are taking that comment as they still haven't today

I was strictly talking about the retro games, if there is something I don't know, feel free to let me know

>> No.724568

>>724467
I seriously want to know who thought that was a good idea. The worst part is, it's not going to matter. People will actually let it happen.

>> No.724572

>implying there aren't still plenty of good games

>> No.724578

>>724467
isn't that just with the xbox one, which is receiving so much negative feedback microsoft will probably never try to pull that shit again

>> No.724604

>>724578
You haven't been able to lend PC games for a long time. Now it's just sneaking into consoles.

>> No.724617

>>724016
Heavy rain was not that bad. But yeah, it was an interactive movie.
The main problem is a general lack of variety and will to experiment, mainly because the process of creating a game is getting way too expensive.

>> No.724648

>Wired controllers that don't run on batteries.

>> No.724670

>>724617
Increasing game prices and increasing cost of development can't really be helped. I can't speak for most, but there's only so much I'm willing to pay for a game that isn't AAA.

Making new IPs were easier back then because the hardware, customer expectations, and competition were easier. Something like Lagrange Point was easier to experiment with, sure, but it's also no surprise that we don't see anymore of it since the original didn't sell well.

>> No.724674

>>724670
That was mainly because it used the expensive expansion chip. Much like how Virtua Racing didn't do too well on the Genesis.

>> No.724692

>>724674
Indeed, but if the series was successful, you'd see it continue on consoles that didn't require specialized mappers. Lagrange Point didn't even get a port. Or a remake.

>> No.724696

>Back then everything that wasn't "AAA" wasn't relegated to handhelds.

>> No.724703

>>724696
To be fair, either there were no handhelds to speak of, handhelds had much smaller bases, handhelds weren't small enough, or handhelds weren't powerful enough. Really, given how concerned Japan is with appliance size and power draw, the move to handhelds isn't surprising at all.

>> No.724713

>>724696
As a mostly handheld gamer, this has actually been really good for me

>> No.724718

>>724713
There are great benefits... well, before Nintendo started region-locking handheld systems. Sony handhelds are region-locked, though, and have much to offer.

>> No.724731

>>724718
I don't feel too bad about the region lock so far, pretty much everything I've wanted has been localised anyway

>> No.724757
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724757

Pic extremely related

>> No.724762
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>>724757

Have a more up to date version

>> No.724781

>>723958
>Most consoles will still be playable in 20 years
NES/SNES are breaking down at a faster rate and 5th gen stuff will be seeing disc rot at a greater rate in 20 years
>Most franchises hadn't gone to shit yet
It helps that most only had at most 5 installments by the end of the 5th gen

>> No.724789

this thread is shit

I don't want to read this on /vr/

it's just people complaining about modern games, it almost reads like redit

>> No.724805

>>723958
>unlike cheaply designed consoles like PS3
You probably would have been better off saying the 360. At least the PS3 isn't designed to fail, as far as I can tell.

Sage for flame war statement, even though it's true.

>> No.724814

>>724789
It's a mix of complaining and waxing nostalgia.
If anything you sound strangely defensive getting upset that people express dislike/hate at the current gen.

>> No.724859

>>723958
>>Most consoles will still be playable in 20 years unlike cheaply designed consoles like PS3

In 20 years the 360 and PS3 will be retro. And I'm sure technology will be made to play these game perfectly in some messed up holodeck deal.

>> No.724867

>>724789
And if I went to /v/ I would see nothing but people wanking about the latest games and how they're so much better.

>>724859
In 20 years the only operable PS3 and 360s will be in a museum.

>> No.724875

>>724867

>And if I went to /v/ I would see nothing but people wanking about the latest games and how they're so much better.

...No, you probably wouldn't. /v/ hates on modern games *far* harder than /vr/ ever does.

>> No.725301

>Developers are not afraid of letting the player figure things out on their own

This is a big one for me. Modern games are way too damn scared of having the player get stuck at any moment causing the game to either be super linear with scripted events plastered all over the place or have waypoints and hints on the screen. God forbid someone has to think for a minute.

>> No.725330

>>724131
>All this, and not one of you makes any homebrew games.

Actually, I've coded an Atari 2600 homebrew (except for the music). Sold a few dozen of them too.

>> No.725339

>>724168
what about pikablu, being able to fight professor oak (which turned out to sorta be true he DOES have programmed teams)

>> No.725349

>>725301
So why only 1 episode of game grumps a day, Arin?

>> No.725353

>>724168
>Mew and the SS Anne truck
Oh god I thought I escaped this.

>> No.725360

>>724168
There are going to be kids on the playground these days who will never know what it was life believing a lie your friend Seth told you and then busting your ass off in game trying to pull it off.

>> No.725367

>>725301
in valve's case they just hire borderline retarded people for testing it seems

>> No.725417

For all the bitching about eBay prices around here, at least Contra: Hard Corps is all yours once it arrives at your door.

>> No.725447

You have the complete game right from the start with no strings attached. That means no DLC or preorder butchering.

>> No.725469

>>724195
I did with my bedroom.

>> No.725483

>>725447
And even in the case of expansions, the core product has to be something that will satisfy your customer for a year while you work on the fully featured update.

>> No.725501

>>724195
I'm getting shag carpet and vintage 1970's couches and swag lamps for my game room. It is going to be gen 2 themed for whatever reason. I think the 70s were very aesthetically pleasing.

>> No.725502

>Consoles are consoles instead of TELEVISION!

>Consoles don't spy on you

>> No.725505 [DELETED] 

>>724223
But people bought PS3s, and those had no games.

>> No.725509 [DELETED] 

>>725505
>>>/v/

>> No.725514

>Sega Game Gear has the same battery life as PS Vita but has more games

>> No.725523

>>724023
It'd be niche

The normal person doesn't want games, he wants achievements, he wants XBL scores, he wants RoosterTeeth telling him constantly what a great buy he made and how awesome Halo is.

in short: most people who play games now just want the culture surrounding it. They just want to feel accepted and feel that they are above other people. That's why the console wars started in the first place: they want to feel superior to another person. They don't actually give a fuck about playing video games. Most of them don't even like playing games unless beer and their friends are involved.

Fortunately it seems people are revolting against the Xbone for the time being, so it may be that the common peasants have finally hit their limit on how much they are going to be screwed over.

They can really only take so much screwing over at one time, they have to be eased into the ass-fucking that is modern video games in order to accept it. All it really takes is one of their friends to say "You know what, this sounds like a GREAT idea!" for them to start believing that it's a good idea and accepting it. Right now it seems that there aren't enough people who feel that it's a good idea, but that will probably change in the future.

>> No.725520 [DELETED] 

>>725509
Calm down, I was making a joke. Don't get your jimmies all rustled...

>> No.725536

>>725523
Don't forget their $200 headsets and $80 controller keypads

>> No.725563

>>725523
>he wants RoosterTeeth telling him constantly what a great buy he made and how awesome Halo is.

I don't understand your statement here. The only time I hear RT talk about Halo is when they're referring to their few LPs of it and to RvB.

>> No.725602

>>725563
RT are massive fucking Microsoft shills. Their second biggest product, their LPs, are almost exclusively played on microsoft products. Even things that are inferior on the Xbox, they play it there anyway (things like Minecraft).

It's actually kind of sickening to listen to their podcast and their personal opinions because it's a 24/7 Microsoft-can-do-no-wrong wankfest. Just try going to every twitter of the big-name shills in the company and look at their reaction to the Xbone; nothing but glowing praise and excitement over all the TV they're going to watch and how they'll never miss a football game again. It's disgusting that anyone still watches them.

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>>723958

>They are still game consoles and not water-coolers

>> No.725616

>>725602
Future Xbone customer:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/29/nh-man-loses-life-savings-on-carnival-game/

>> No.725620

Is it bad if i like both?
I do think 90's and early 2000 was golden age of gaming, but i still enjoy modern games too, thought i play them mostly in PC.

>> No.725627

Complacent PC gamers and Steam fanboys are the reason why companies think they can get away with their bullshit business practices on consoles now with the Xbone.

>> No.725641

>why retro games are better

more challenging
more to the point
much much better soundtracks
more variety
overall more lighthearted and fun vs games of today which take themselves too seriously

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>>725609

that .gif caught me off guard

>> No.725662

>>725602
>It's actually kind of sickening to listen to their podcast and their personal opinions because it's a 24/7 Microsoft-can-do-no-wrong wankfest.

Sounds like you listened to a grand total of the very latest podcast, recorded directly prior to the xbox announce. Of course they're going to talk about it, but the majority of all the podcasts discuss personal stories, science, news, and [spoler]dicks.[/spoiler]

>> No.725663

>>725662
>[spoler]dicks.[/spoiler]
Typing is hard.

Fuck it, I'm going with it.

>> No.725717

>>725627
Are you saying PC gamers DIDN'T fight back against this? Like the games that were huge horrible failures because of their DRM schemes were somehow the fault of the consumers?

>> No.725723

>>725662
>Sounds like you listened to a grand total of the very latest podcast

I listened to every fucking podcast dating back to when Geoff was still doing them, they're huge microsoft apologists and anyone who disagrees just wants to suck their dicks.

>> No.725753

>>725723
I started at podcast 4, and I only remember a few instances of outright, unprovoked microdick sucking. Most of their discussion on microsoft coincides with announces, news, and events.

Besides, when you rely so much on a microsoft IP, are you going to be openly shitting on them ever? It would only take one call from microsoft to shut down RvB, and most of their income.

>> No.725852

>>725753
>Besides, when you rely so much on a microsoft IP, are you going to be openly shitting on them ever?

You just admitted that they're dicksuckers.

Of course they are going to shill the fuck out of microsoft, that's what I'm saying: people don't want to play video games, they want validation from other people they feel are cool.

Of course I can't think of the kind of person who would think that Gavin "Hey gys I got my finger stuck again :(" is cool, but different strokes, different folks.

>> No.725869

>>725852
>people don't want to play video games, they want validation from other people they feel are cool.
There are actually people who defend Bernie Stolar and his "Four Star Policy". Scary thought.

>> No.725881

>>724789
Hey guys! Let's all be surprised that people might think that retro games are better on /vr/!

>> No.725918

>Old games
>That are modable
>That still have an active community

If only

>> No.725932

>>725869
> Bernie Stolar and his "Four Star Policy"
Could you please elaborate? Google's got nothing.

>> No.725935

How uncommon would you say retro gamers are these days? IRL i only know two other retro gamers.

>> No.725941

>>725932
He's the faggot who killed the Sega Saturn. He was the head of Sega of America and banned any game that was "too nerdy" (Grandia) or "didn't show off the power of the console". He was fired from Sony for that bullshit, then Sega hired him for god knows what reason. He thought SPACE JAM for Saturn was a "four star" game along with all the other shit polluting the North American Saturn library.

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>Most franchises hadn't gone to shit yet
>yet

God, that makes me sad. Not many franchises made it out of seventh gen without being ruined.

>> No.725997

I agree with everyone in the thread.

Truthfully, the Wii is probably going to be my last console. I have no interest in these 500 dollar dvd players that prohibit you from buying used games and doing anything offline. It's all about money now and who can have the most realistic graphics. Fuck that a video game is a video game. I don't want realistic graphics.

>> No.726021

>>725997
>realistic graphics
>on 2005 hardware
>with textures popping in at 20 yards

Funny guy.

>> No.726038

>>725997
These new "consoles" just make me feel old and depressed. I stopped caring a few years ago.

>> No.726074

>>725997
PS2 and Dreamcast were the last consoles worth owning. Since then, it's all been complete and total crap.

>> No.726081

>>726074
GCN was badass

>> No.726091

>>726081
>Nintendo post snes and MAYBE n64.
Nope. Not even once.

>> No.726093

>>725301
you think casuals nowadays have the patience for a game they could possibly get stuck in? the minute they can't figure out what to do they'll either check online or just stop playing the game. the only difficulty now is artificial.

>> No.726101

>>726021

What's the joke? and please don't fucking greentext it like you got here from reddit a week ago.

>> No.726108
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>>725997
Same.

I'll probably continue to buy Nintendo's handhelds, but I can't see myself wanting to keep going with anybody's consoles. It's just a sad state of affairs and extremely depressing.

People say "But you'll never play anything new if you just do retro gaming!"..But one of the things I love the most about retro gaming is that there's over 40 years worth of games out there. I'm 25, I'm STILL finding amazing old games that I've never played before, some of which are big name titles. There's entire consoles I've yet to even touch.

If I just had to make due with console and PC games from 1972 to 2004, I'd be perfectly fine.

>> No.726120

I was watching my little brother play Persona 4 Arena yesterday, and it surprised me how much little content was in the game, there were barely any characters, stages, or music. And you could buy colors, and glasses for the characters in $10 dlc packs. That shit used to be unlockable for free

>> No.726129

When I play a good retro game on my CRT, I can pretend all the shit after the mid 2000s never existed.

>> No.726130

>>724016

But Heavy Rain had a cool story. It might not be your cup of tea, but it wasn't pretending to be anything different.

It's more infuriating in games where that isn't a primary emphasis.

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>>724762
I actually cry a little every time I see this. Feels terrible.

>> No.726151

>>726120
I don't think content matters in a fighting game as long as the mechanics of the game are fun.

Its always been that way. Most Fighting game players play for the gameplay.

Now the DLC costume and shit as dumb but its not like it changes the game or its like season pass bullshit

>> No.726170

>>726130
Yeah I'm all for visual novels and adventure games too.

>> No.726172

>>724141
cheaply is too much for that piece of shit

>> No.726173

>>724195
My man cave has all of my Genesis games and my RPG books from the 70s, 80s, and 80s lined up next to my computer.

>> No.726336

>>726130
This. It didn't say "FPS SURVIVAL ADVENTURE HORROR" on the box. People knew that it wasn't going to be that, so +1 to the devs.

>> No.727252

>>724604
What do you mean? unless the game runs on steam you can lend it right?

>> No.727323

>>727252
Most PC games have some form of digital protection bullshit these days that prevent it.
>Limited installs
>DRM
>Tied to a specific account

>> No.727467

You can start playing a game and instantly know whether or not it is good. When I first played a Fallout game, I spent most of the game wondering "is this even going to be any good?". I played Megaman for the first time this weekend yeah, I know and immediately loved it.

>> No.727470

How about how in old games, you unlocked cheats or secrets by playing the game, and today you get them only as an incentive for preordering or as DLC

>> No.727476
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>>727470

>> No.727479

>>724121
I've thought about just having a modern console that uses "cartridges" but since a flash card can have up to 64 GB on it, it wouldn't have the same limitations as the old ones did. It would be a commercial failure but I still think it would be cool.

>> No.727485

>>727467
The first two Fallouts are retro though. I don't get what you're saying.

>> No.727543

>actually trying non-retro games

you dont need to touch the fire to know it burns right? well same thing here, those games are A PRIORI shit.

>> No.727582

>>725609
bsod

>> No.727750

>>727476
This might sound stupid but, just to confirm, the right hand side of that picture is fake right? Nobody actually asked that question, right?

>> No.729584

>>724648
THIS. I bought a wireless 360 controller (muh emus) specifically because I can simply swap out my rechargable batteries.

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730136

Arino gets it.

>> No.732725 [DELETED] 

>>725360
i convinced a frined of mine back in 98 that you could get a whip in pokemon blue that would level your pokes up faster.

last time we spoke ( about a month ago) he was still looking for it, LOL

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bamp

>> No.732740

>>724867
>/v/ hates on modern games *far* harder than /vr/ ever does.

that doesn't help much since /v/ are fucking retards who only talk about stupid fucking garbage all day long that hasn't even much to do with games hands-on anymore. on /vr/ we made that happen instead.

>> No.732742

>>730136
hopefully the fucking idiots who bought Witcher 2 and will buy Cyberpunk soon too.

and those games are just two examples about what is wrong with today's games.

>> No.732748

>>732742
wait, is there gameplay of cyberpunk then?

>> No.732751

>>724053
Oddly enough I thought the same thing, only being an android-based system you know it will have all of that 'would ya like to upload your score to facebook?' bullshit in its games.

When the fuck did this become acceptable? Even Nintendo is doing it with Miiverse. Fucking shit.

>> No.732756

>>724068
I was the younger sibling actually, and I either lost all my lives as Luigi or tagged along as Tails.

My bro always used the life sharing screen to steal all of my lives.

>> No.732770

>>725514
In all honesty I don't think the GG library could last you as long as could the few games that do exist on the Vita.

>> No.732765

>>732748
not yet. but do you really expect a game without QTEs from such a company?

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732767

>>724195
I got this to start with, going to add more eventually.

>> No.732775

>>725620
I do too, I just agree that there's a lot of BS in modern consoles.

>> No.732776

>>724009

If I erase the data from a cartridge, will it still be worth anything? The cartridge is merely the container of the goods.

>> No.732779

>>725717
People still use Steam don't they? Complete with no freedoms as to game usage whatsoever? The exact same kind of no freedoms promoted by the Xboner?

>> No.732780

>>732779
>Complete with no freedoms as to game usage whatsoever?

You can play your game.

>> No.732782

>>726091
Whenever I see sentiments like this I always suspect that they belong to someone who either grew out of children's toys at that point in time or who only enjoyed 3rd parties that happened to be on Nintendo systems.

>> No.732786

>>732780
Well yeah, same as the new thing, just always on their terms.

>> No.734357

>>732779
I think he means the kind of DRM that installs literal rootkits that hardcore fugged with your system if they 'saw' anything it didn't like.

>> No.734594

>>727479
+1
You're not the only one that would like to see something like that.

>> No.734983

>>725360
>the hours i wasted trying to get guile to pull his gun on someone.

>> No.737432

>>727323
Or they use a CD Key, which isn't a problem for single player but it can sometimes be a problem for multiplayer.