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Name a better add-on.

>> No.7234440

PocketStation

>> No.7234450

>>7234416
sega 32x

>> No.7234451

>>7234416
Sega CD

>> No.7234471

>>7234450
Sorry, but's the worst one

>> No.7234474

saturn ram addon

>> No.7234481

>>7234474
Only the Capcom cart, SNK sucked.

>> No.7234485

>>7234451
Seconding this
Sure it had a lot of garbage like Make-My-Video but it also had games like Lunar, Earthworm Jim SE and Road Avenger.
Does the N64 Memory Expansion Pak play Road Avenger? No? Then it's worse.
Also like half the games that made use of the N64 memory pak did indeed run at higher resolutions but also at framerates that were somehow even slower than normal for the system.

>> No.7234486

>>7234481
yup, that's the one. You could also argue for the action replay + 4mb

>> No.7234509

>>7234471
But it's better than the xpac

>> No.7234516

It honestly didn't really make any old games better it was just necessary for a few games to run at all. It's not like you'll be hitting 30 in ocarina of time

>> No.7234531

>>7234485
>somehow
They are higher resolution. A bit of extra RAM isn't going to allow the system to run them well.

>> No.7234580

>>7234485
Indeed, those games are good too. Sonic CD was the main reason I bought a Sega CD.

>> No.7234597
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>>7234416
I think you'll find the best addon is pick related. Manipulate ram for cheats and boot backups.

>> No.7234686

>>7234597

is this the bootleg EU version of the gameshark?

>> No.7234873

>>7234471
Jaguar CD is worse. Trust me.

>> No.7234902

>>7234471
virtua fighter 32x is better than saturn virtua fighter

>> No.7234914 [DELETED] 

>>7234902
Only the original release of VF, the later remix edition is the definitive and that's a Saturn exclusive.

>> No.7234973
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>> No.7234990

Condoms. They've birthed me twice as many children than if I went in without one.

>> No.7235023

>>7234990
You're supposed to put it on your dick.

>> No.7235068

>>7235023
I did. And now I have four kids instead of the prerequisite two. I'm hoping to have more!

>> No.7235073

>>7235068
Uhh, did it break? Is your wife having a laugh with the mailman?

>> No.7235076

Best addon was a flashcart for any system you could have one.

>> No.7235081

>>7234416
wow i can play... dk64 .. and high res slideshows of two other games

>> No.7235142

>>7234973

based and bomberpilled

>> No.7235172

>>7234416
Not even the best ram expansion.

>> No.7235219
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>>7234416
Dreammovie OK more of a peripheral

>> No.7235349
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>>7234416

>> No.7235725

>>7235349

wtf am I looking at

>> No.7235760

>>7235725
you dumbass

>> No.7235761
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>>7234416
This device here.

>> No.7235783

>>7235760

Im looking at you dumbass?

>> No.7235857

>>7234516
It definitely made regular games run better, but only by about 2-5 frames.

>> No.7235872

>>7235857
It is only supported in a few games and doesn't do anything for unsupported games. Most performance changes with the expansion are negative. 5 frames would be a huge deal for a console that frequently runs games in the lower teens.

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>>7234416

>> No.7235897

>>7235761
som1 plase make a pc-cd clone

>> No.7235920

>>7234471
Sorry, that the N64DD

>> No.7236183

>>7234516
>>7235857
>>7235872
It was originally going to be a 64DD accessory that got repurposed relatively late in the N64's lifespan.

>> No.7236208

>>7236183
The 64DD should have either used typical Zip Disks or VCDs as its medium for software.

>> No.7236460

>>7234597
Used this to play burned games back in the day.

>> No.7236467
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>> No.7236474

>>7236467
There should have been a version for the TG-16 and Sega Mega CD.

>> No.7236493

>>7235219
What is this thing? Is it for gamecube?

>> No.7236498

>>7234416
Nah m8 it's shit

>> No.7236607

>>7235886
The only right answer

>> No.7236645

>>7236607
This is the way.

>> No.7236660

>>7234416
Literally anything is better than that. Useless shit for a useless system.

>> No.7236685

>>7234416
Whatever that mod chip was that let me play ps games on burned cd's

>> No.7236710

>halves your already 20fps games FPS for an extra 100p

Uhh... Epic?

>> No.7236751

>>7234440
So much potential.

>> No.7236786
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7236786

>>7234416

>> No.7236984

>>7235886
The super gameboy and the gameboy players were the best shit, I'll always be a litte buttmad over the fact that they never did a DS equivalent to it, they had the chance with the WiiU

>> No.7237021

>>7234416
How is a remedial add-on even a good add-on? The Saturn also had one, they both should have launched with more RAM.

>> No.7237025

>>7234914
Remix looks like dogshit compared to the original arcade.

>> No.7237029

>>7234416
The GameCube GameBoy Advance player. Or the PC Engine CD.

>> No.7237037

>mandatory hardware for 3 (THREE) games
>isnt manufactured anymore, and is awful expensive to copy, meaning that at least half of the 64 owners in the markets cant play all the library available
imagine being this retarded to support something like this

>> No.7237047

>>7235920
How would you know? F-Zero X Expansion was pretty fresh.

>> No.7237049

>>7235725
Maybe learn to read and you'd find out.

>> No.7237050
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>>7234597
Had something very similar growing up (basically the same) pic related.
>code editor to make cheats
>play imports and burned discs
>memory card manager
>could go into disc files and watch all FMVs for any game and listen to game soundtracks
man this thing was way too cool

>> No.7237056

>>7237050
Also VCDs, that shit was dope as fuck.

>> No.7237060

>>7235725
an adapter to play Master System games, MegaDrive had Master System hardware built into it so it was fully backwards compatible

>> No.7237063

>>7235761
>>7235886
these

>> No.7237108

Disk System. Not even a debate.

>> No.7237124

>>7237047
>f-queero
into the trash it goes.

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>>7236467
I preferred the Pro Action Replay, mostly because the codes were just the raw address and value. No convoluted encoding that the GG did.

>> No.7237283

>>7236984
Probably because they would've done support through the Virtual Console if at all. Then they can make you buy your games all over again.

>> No.7237427

>>7237283
They might have done DS, which they did, but I wanted 3DS. I'd have rather had an addon that let you play DS/3DS games on WiiU than get that cheese wedge poorfag 3DS model.

>> No.7237638

>>7237037
>isnt manufactured anymore, and is awful expensive to copy,

uh yeah, welcome to retro collecting

>> No.7237646

>>7237108
I really wish we got the disk system upgrade for the NES in the west. It always sucks reading how FDS games had to get downgraded for their international versions.

>> No.7237653

>>7234440
>PocketStation
it's still funny that the PocketStation never left Japan and thus was doomed in the long run because it was TOO successful in Japan

>> No.7237802

>>7236208
The Doctor V64 can play ROMs off of CD-ROMs, can play music off of audio CDs, and movies off of VCDs. It's basically everything the 64DD should've been.

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>> No.7238034

>>7237925
>can't see shit
...
>still can't see shit and now there's a ball of fire.

>> No.7238039
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>>7237925
haha look at faggot anon still using a worm light, now if you don't mind I'm going to plug my earbuds into my SP so I can play pokemon on the bus now...

>> No.7238057

>>7238039
Nintendo truly was ahead of its time.

>> No.7238096

>>7238039
Sorry I didn't need to play my GBA on the bus because I was talking to my friends

>> No.7238105

>>7235349
It was this thing that existing that gimped genesis color palette so gonna be a big thumbs down on this one

>> No.7238143

>>7234416
>4MB RAM
>cost hundred bucks

>good
lol

>> No.7238154

as far as unlicensed addons, the Sega Saturn and Playstation ones that let you play region locked games.
For official addons there is no question that the PC Engine CD is the all time greatest, you got an absolutely massive extension to the library and to the general power of the system.

>> No.7238207

>>7238096
At least you can play a good Alex the Kidd game.

>> No.7238216

>>7238096
>Not showing the girl on the bus you like your rare pokemon like a Chad

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>>7235761
>>7234450
>>7234416
Beeep beeep! Make way for the greatest console add-on ever made.
>No need for system cards unless you want arcade card games
>All you need is the much cheaper arcade card Duo
>Only need one wall plug as it has enough power to pass through to the PC Engine
>Outputs superior composite instead of RF if connected to original PCE

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fuck you i liked it

>> No.7238302

>>7238096
>not knowing girls dig the nintendo portable consoles
maximum pleb

>> No.7238675

>>7234416
My dick to your mom's pussy

>> No.7239039

>>7237050
What console is it for?

>> No.7239451

>>7238252
Enjoy fucking up your hands.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1869-hand-disorder-linked-to-vibrating-console-controllers/

>> No.7239476

>>7239451
Oh no I played Splinter cell and the controller vibrated whenever I lock picked a door. Will my hands ever recover?

>> No.7239568

>>7239039
PS1

>> No.7239579

>>7235219
Someone don’t make FilmCube peripheral for Nintendo Dolphin?

>> No.7239583

>>7238039
>>7237925
Both better now.

>> No.7239590

>>7239568
PhonyStation

>> No.7240954

>>7234597
>>7237050
These things are part of the reason why I got into programming
I wanted to know how people came up with the codes you'd enter, though it was partly obvious with RPGs, because you would enter most of a code and just change the last two digits, etc for the specific item you wanted
I got to explore so many cool debug rooms, etc because of my GameShark

>> No.7240985

>Name a better add-on.
how about something that demonstrated some actual functional use like a rumble pack? Or GameGenie? Not this "our console is so fucking old we gotta add on shit to it to stay relevant". Its like hardware DLC.

>> No.7241001

Did anybody ever make a third party memory expander for N64 that had some insane modern amount of memory? Would it make games run at 60fps?

>> No.7241230

>>7241001
It might improve performance for a few games depending on how they're programmed, but for the majority of games it would either not have an effect or just end up breaking them.

>> No.7241698
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I just installed this onto my N64 controller.

>> No.7241716

>>7241001
I doubt ram is the major bottleneck. You would have to overclock the cpu or gpu or increase vram or something.

>> No.7242016

>>7241698
do these still completely ruin the range and deadzones on an N64 controller or do they make replacement sticks that don't suck now?

>> No.7242023

>>7241001
IIRC the way it's setup, it would make no difference at all.

>> No.7242024

>>7241001
the official expansion pack had no effect on fps unless you were using it to enable high res mode which probably made it worse

>> No.7242179

>>7242016
they are oversensitive still, so it sucks for any shooters, but for platformers its good enough. steelsticks is the "perfect" option but good luck getting one of those as the guy makes them manually one by one and they always sell out instantly. raphnet-tech has gamecube to n64 controller adapter which works really well and you can remap the buttons any way you like, but the problem is the mismatch of both controllers button layouts, and the GC analog triggers dont work too well as shoulder buttons unless you take the springs out of GC controller(at least in my option). raphnet-tech also has wii classic controller (pro) to n64 controller adapter, which works much better in my option, the button layout works much better for most games.

>> No.7242260

>>7240985
Rumble pack (or Pak?) Would be more significant historically as it has become standard for every major system since. Companies even have pay Nintendo royalties to use force feedback.

>> No.7242523

>>7237274
This looks like some overseas shit we wouldn’t have had available in “the states”.

>> No.7242525

>>7238039
Fuck earbuds. Over the ear always.

>> No.7242551

Literally any PSX actionreplay/gameshark/whatever is better.

>> No.7243014

>>7242016
With the one I bought, it doesn't ruin the range or deadzones for the games I played with it on. But the only games I played are Super Mario 64 and WWF No Mercy so far. No problems whatsoever with the controls.

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>> No.7243354

>>7243159

da fuk

>> No.7243482

>>7234416
It still didnt make the 64 not shit

>> No.7243489

>>7242525
Fucking autist.

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>>7234416

>> No.7244081

>>7238143
Not to mention very few games used it
PC engine CD is without a doubt the best add on, between the music and animated scenes added and the plethora of great games, nothing comes close, not even the sega CD

>> No.7244107
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This little fella kickstarted the greatest shift in retro gaming ever. My answer is basically "ODEs in general".

>>7236786
> Buy one of these
> Can now play arcade perfect ports of 2D Capcom fighting games with a GOAT controller

I don't know if it's the best console addon, but it's certainly up there.

>> No.7244109

>>7235068
>making sex feel like shit
>still getting the responsibility and a family statistically bound to break
Wowie.

>> No.7244113

>>7234416
They all suck. Just make your game work on the base hardware or try again next gen.

>> No.7244120

>>7238143
>he didnt just get his for free from blockbuster
lmaoing @ u

>> No.7244121

Why didn't they make N64 games that ran in the same resolution with better textures using the expansion pak instead of upping the resolution to ensure that they were unplayable?
As is, it is real garbage, especially compared to the Saturn RAM cart, which actually improved tons of games.

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This should have been the very first post...

>> No.7244135

>>7244121
I wouldn’t say it improved games, it just made them not run like dog shit

>> No.7244137

>>7244124
> Making custom parks in THPS2 on the Dreamcast
> Saving them to the VMU
> Taking it to school and trading parks with my friends who all did the same thing

Direct transfer of data between two memory cards was such a cool feature.

>> No.7244139

>>7243489
Earbuds make my ears ache after a bit.

>> No.7244142

>>7234450
The 32X made the Genesis worse though. Many games that were planned to be release on the Genesis got moved to this platform and they're going to cost hundreds if you want to play them on original hardware.

Not to mention the games that were made uglier like Blackthorne.

>> No.7244156

>>7244135
Saturn RAM pack let them fit animation frames in memory, giving you arcade smooth animation. N64 expansion pak doesn't do anything like that. It ups texture resolution, but almost always also ups resolution, which it doesn't actually help the system run properly.

>> No.7244175

>>7244156
They were both pretty average dude
As stated before in this thread pc engine CD is by far the best add on

>> No.7244185

>>7244175
Yeah, I'm comparing to the Saturn RAM pack because it is directly comparable to the N64 expansion pak.
PC Engine CD basically replaced the original hu-card medium in terms of major releases. Only time I can think of something like that happening.

>> No.7245142

>>7234416
>only 3 games actually required this
>everything else that made use of it was mainly for cosmetic things like improved textures or higher resolution, with some cases where performance was actually worse if enabled.

>> No.7245148

>>7234416
Add-ons are not something to be proud of anon.

>> No.7245193

>addons
>good
this thread is full of retards

>> No.7245365

>>7245142
One of the games that required it only needed it because of some game breaking bug they couldn’t work around without more RAM so they shipped it with the game. I think it was the Donkey Kong one.

>> No.7245583

>>7244142
>Many
Many being what, Sonic Crackers and nothing else? Most 32X games aren't worth playing

>> No.7245585 [DELETED] 

Am I the only one who actually bought a stand-alone Transfer Pak instead of getting it with DK64?
I bought it along with Majora's Mask back at release.

>> No.7245592

>>7245585
I bought it to play Perfect Dark. Noticed zero difference

>> No.7245603

>>7234485
XPak RAM runs at lower frequency than base system (a design fuckup), so when you install it, system RAM downclocks to match it.

>> No.7245621

>>7242523
British, but quite readily available in the US. One of the few things I bought new.

Cool thing was you could generate your own codes with it to manipulate RAM. It had tools to detect value changes. Got 5 lives? Search for fives. You could then check those memory locations when you had 4 lives, 6 lives, whittling down until you had a few candidates.

>> No.7245761

>>7244124
*BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*

>> No.7245871

The weirdest thing about the expansion pak is that the best looking and best running games on the N64 don't even fucking need it, it's like it only existed as a crutch for bad developers.

>> No.7245972
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7245972

Literally this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZcrPM-jDqY

>> No.7245986

>>7245592
What are you talking about? You can only play 5% of the game without the RAM PAK

>> No.7246381

>>7245585
I think one came with my copy of rogue squadron. Am I wrong or was there a second release with a little more ram?

>> No.7248736

>>7234416
Jogcon

>> No.7248774

PS2's HDD

>> No.7249121

>>7244015
I WANNA BE SEDATED BY A GAAAAME BOYYY

>> No.7249197

>>7244015
So those games would have to be piss easy right? Kids that are terrible at games would never get sedated.

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>>7245193
no u

>> No.7250993

>>7246381
Think it was all the same

>> No.7251571

>>7244124
But it isn't. I love it, but it's not really considered an add-on.

>>7245193
t.Poorfag who can't afford add-ons.

>> No.7251845

>>7234471
It has approximately 11 good games

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>>7234416
IMO it was really cool.

>> No.7251943

>>7242260
>have to choose between force feedback or external saves
praise nintendo

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>>7251943
Nyko to save the day once again

>> No.7254053
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revolutionary at the time

>able to hold more data than cartridges of the day
>added save/load functionality meant games could be more than just straight arcade ports that lasted 2 hours max
>cheaper to produce than cartridges
>disks could be rewritten at special kiosks with new games
>that oh-so-satisfying 'click' sound when you insert a disk into the unit

unf