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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>7227439

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~


(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
-Album of infographics with setup information and user content recommendations

Same thing, in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0 [Embed]

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
More /vr/ shooters
Doom Shovelware
Fileplanet archives
Doom RPG series
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):


Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/








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>> No.7230023

Our resident shitposter made the last OP again, so when his posts were getting blitzed, the OP went with them.

>> No.7230024

500ml of /vr/

=== NEWS ===
[12-26] New SC-55 soundfont released:

[12-24] DBP31: Santa's Outback Bender for the 3rd annual Doomer Boards Project Christmas extravaganza released

[12-22] Gearbox reaches a settlement with Bobby Prince over the use of his music tracks in Duke Nukem 3D: Anniversary Edition https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-12-21-gearbox-reaches-settlement-with-bobby-prince-over-duke-nukem-music

[12-22] Markshan Knightmare has released a Updated installer for the Window of Retribution community Mission pack for Q2

[12-21] Anon made and shares an Episode 1 style level

[12-20] Quake Xmas Jam 2020 Released

[12-20] Mission64 a Quake 2 64 missionpack for Q2 was released

[12-20] DSDA 10.0 released

[12-19] TerminusEst13 releases a 7DFPS GZDoom project, Kid 4 $29.99.

[12-19] Snap the Sentinel, a short standalone 7DFPS IWAD made for GZDoom inspired by SNES/Genesis games released

=== PREVIOUS ===


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Sorry for the shit OP folks, but at least it's less likely the thread will get nuked now.

>> No.7230038

nth for I'm getting fat.
Like, Mancubus fat.

>> No.7230039

and I'm sorry to have posted before you got a chance to post the news post. I appreciate you and any other good anon that makes an OP that isn't that faggot.

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>[12-22] Gearbox reaches a settlement with Bobby Prince
oh i had missed this
hope he got his dues.

>> No.7230045

To the anon who said there are no vanilla wire textures, why not try making something that looks like a wire using a 2-4 units wide texture segment or with some small sector detailing?

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Thank you dear fucking lord. Watching the shitposts just flat out nuke every other discussion going on when they get b& for 5 whole minutes is tiring.

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If I'm around to make the next thread I'll do a proper job, I just wanted to shove this one out the door.
Shitpost anon did fine as an OP, but tended to make the thread early. I expect that will happen again.

>> No.7230078

Please tell me which is the real Doom 2 release date.

>> No.7230092

God, this new Dwars series is painful to watch. Why does he thinks he is obliged to read every fucking bit of text that pops up on the screen? What is this, drag queen reading hour?

Like salty coins and milk.

>> No.7230093

Gaming Gargoyle made another Doom animation.
I feel like I'm retarded because I don't get the joke with this one.


Jannies, stop being fucking morons and deleting entire threads because alf is shitposting. Ban his faggot ass already.

>> No.7230097

Some say its always existed. Its believed to be generated by AI for military VR along the same time the crucible of the internet was formed. Back flip on hari kari rock with a tuning fork Etc.

>> No.7230115

He needs to work on his sense of timing and his script reading. He has this tendency to ramble.

October 10th, 1994

>> No.7230119

it won't save you

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>> No.7230134

>October 10th, 1994
You sure? the wikis say otherwise

>> No.7230135

Pretty it's referencing this

>> No.7230141

>I feel like I'm retarded because I don't get the joke with this one.
you know that video of a black guy watching a video, recording his reaction, then he gets surprised by the text "niggers" in the spongebob font?
someone made tf2 sfm versions but with characters saying words that they say, instead of actual insults to them, missing the point
>soldier reacting to "maggots" which is his insult to others, not the other way around
much like that banjo/korone meme, it's like an unnecessary meme template
but weirder because it has an actual source that made a bit of sense, so new variants are based off the more confusing template

>> No.7230151

>I'm completely out of the loop on modern memes

Is this what growing old feels like? I still don't get what the "E? Yes" means.

>> No.7230161

maybe but a lot of memes nowadays really are that shit, to the point they die sooner and it's not surpising
it's like we're near some limit or an end or memes
as if some internet meme ban or the actual end of the world and the human race is related to this
we reached a point where normies took over wojaks, turned them into picrew avatars and started an actual race war with their wojaksonas

anyway, off-topic, sorry
any wads anyone is anticipating for 2021?

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Done path from fake exit to real exit, more or less, gonna need to make other 60% of the map now.

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I'm hoping BTSX 3 gets released, but i don't think it will.

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I kind of got carried away making this, but I created an example of making that radio tower with the wires attached (the wall texture of the wire is actually part of the lion head switch).
It's in Boom format, but you should be able to replicate it in vanilla.
Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fi2no3jwt9b7mdp/radio_tower_test.wad?dl=1

>> No.7230372

How many people are playing Aleph One online? I assume it's even less than Doom II?

>> No.7230394

Yeah, this kind of wires can easily be done.

>> No.7230408

Thank God. I swear, at the height of my genuine mental illness I post less consistently than the board troll.

Are there any cool documentaries on 90's FPS games out there? I'd prefer 'proper' movies since I comb YouTube fairly regularly already but share anything that you think is neat and informative

>> No.7230418
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That one polish fagot replaying ancient Q2 mods here again - just found out 16 years later that theres a secret level in Roseville's last mappack "The Earth War" that all this time was hidden in the same place you get spawned at in the penultimete level...

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...You just need to blow up this Doom wallpaper below your feet and kill anyone who gets alerted because of it...

>> No.7230441

...And you end up in some dungeon that is entirely populated by Mutants and Parasites - those Quads are better be worth it...

>> No.7230445

Man, watching Sandy Petersen's videos about Lovecraft make me wish I could feel that childlike enthusiasm for stuff again. He gets so into it.

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Dont really understand why solving Captcha for the second time after writing and selecting the pic secretly removes it only forcing me to solve it thrice ;^\

>> No.7230480

Any youtubers for Quake?

>> No.7230487

A million, all uncharismatic.

>> No.7230493

I like GGRC's Quake Grave.

>> No.7230508
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Why aren't you mapping for Prodeus yet?
I'm having a lot of fun making assets in this editor, the atlased textures afford you a lot of freedom to just create shapes without worrying about alignment

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...And thats it for now I guess - maybe next time I'd showcase that other mod from where the Plasmagun model got repurposed in here from - "Loki's Escape" by LFCTF team;
A single unit mappack of overall slightly higher quality that was also made around 2000

>> No.7230512

Mapping for Quake instead since I'm not a fruitcake.

>> No.7230519

Let's see.

>> No.7230520

>he doesn't map across various FPSes in order to obtain more power

>> No.7230525

Freelook for Doom, yes or no? (If the was doesn't explicitly require it)

>> No.7230526

Do what you want, but no.

>> No.7230531

i miss the time when quaddicted hosted both Q1 and Q2 maps, back in the days of QuakeHotel.

>> No.7230568

so will this thread make it past 200 posts?

alf or whoever is shitposting, please just go do a playthrough of plutonia and chill out

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You bringing it up doesn't help, retard.

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>> No.7230613

ch0ww is a French autist but he sounds cute. :3

>> No.7230620

Very few. If you want an online match I'm pretty sure they schedule them on discord IIRC

>> No.7230628

Like anon said, they usually schedule it.

>> No.7230657

I'd like to start one myself, but I'm terrible at live commentary while going for 100% runs.

>> No.7230664

I'm looking for more edited stuff anyway, like that paint guy who reviews doom wads.
Still, if you do it, be sure to link.

>> No.7230665

Thing about Quake is, enemies are really beefy and fucking dangerous. Very aggressive, too. Beyond E1, there isn't a single weak enemy, except for the kites, maybe. You actually struggle and battle through the levels, it's both satisfying and exhausting.

>> No.7230671

I love it

>> No.7230676

Fucking love Quake.
Ty for the encouragement. Hopefully someday soon.

>> No.7230679 [DELETED] 

Some faggot reported the last OP itself for ban evasion, whatever, someone else make them for awhile.

>> No.7230704

You can report for ban evasion?

>> No.7230708 [DELETED] 
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Playing Wrath: Aeon of Ruin right now and played some Ultrakill earlier. Both are very based and quite fun.

>> No.7230714

In Doom, most guys are a breeze, but in Quake, it's like opposing dozens of Barons per level. Enemies look menacing, too. I love how there are no hitscanners, it all depends on your skill. But spawns are fucking bullshit. If only they didn't explode.

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Based and Wrathpilled.

>> No.7230723

ULTRAKILL is great, love the armless guys.

>> No.7230734 [DELETED] 

Speaking of throwback boomer shooters, this is the list that we came up with a thread or so ago:
>Nightmare Reaper
>Project Warlock
>Wrath: Aeon of Ruin
>Amid Evil
>Ion Fury
>Brutal Fate

If there are any others, reply to this post. I am going to start putting other an infographic for retro throwback FPS.

>> No.7230747

Why are so many Early acess titles?
I'm fuckin dying for ultrakill but I don't wanna burn myself out before the game is actually in the state it's meant to be in.

>> No.7230750
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Based Ross.

The Sin vid was great.

>> No.7230753

>Why are so many Early acess titles?
Why would I do extensive bugtesting myself, or with a select group of people, and work my ass off in my day job when I can make a working prototype and make money making my game? It's a no-brainer, for better or worse.

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she ruined her face hard, and even her porn is boring.

>> No.7230762

Hoping for TNT2 or BTSXE3.

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At least there is something to play for all of them, as far as I know. Not sure about Brutal Fate.

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>> No.7230780

Playthrough video of map10 of 2048 units of /vr/ is up. A nice, short sewer level.

>> No.7230784 [DELETED] 

He really loves SiN despite the flaws which he is upfront about. Overall based review and pretty sure the longest analysis of it on YouTube

>> No.7230794 [DELETED] 

Why do the models warp and move like they are made of jelly in Q2 engine? Something about not using skeletons or something?

>> No.7230795
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remember when quake live was free and you could play it in your browser?

>> No.7230801

Is this Zaero? I thought there was no mutants in Zaero, so that their new dog monsters wouldnt become redundant

>> No.7230803

I love Sandy's YouTube channel, he's a passionate guy who clearly still cares.

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Why I think so. I wish the new version being cleaned up actually made that go away, but I think you would have to redo the models.

That shitty model from Sin episodes has porn?

>> No.7230817

How much of Prodeus' single player have they finished? It looks really damn cool but it being in early access right now has me on the fence, if they're doing early access properly like how New Blood has been doing things I'll probably cave and buy it once I'm done my Christmas games.

>not stealing textures from other games to use in your Quake maps

>> No.7230823

Nails all the positives and negatives quite nicely.

He does have a point. I do miss the saturday morning cartoon with violence and tits quality it has.

I think we cant reproduce it again. The episodes really seem to miss the point.

I never tried it maybe I should.

>> No.7230826 [DELETED] 
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Quake Champions is superior.

>> No.7230827

It's not likely to play exactly like the original, as it isnt a twid project.. It'll likely be similar to how Plutonia 2 or TNT Revilution did things, where theres some influence from the original, but otherwise plays like a more modern wad with the different team of mappers doing things in their own style.

>> No.7230830

And how later on they even brought in TA stuff for free, only to remove it later on for no reason

>> No.7230837

On that topic Quake 3 really needed a single player element.

All those characters look so dumb and interesting to have in a real game.

I want a duo of Sarge and Klesk patrolling the galaxy. And only Sarge knows what klesk is saying.

>> No.7230841
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its a D2M3 map that was on jimmy's archive

search for her name with no censor on biqle

the PS2 port kinda had that, and the final fight was ass clenching hard.

>> No.7230842

Different Anon, here. If live commentary isn't doing it for you then just record all your audio after you've captured your footage. Chances are it'll be a bit more cohesive than it would have been otherwise, planning and good analysis goes a long way towards making playthrough videos fun and informative to watch. This also makes the audio levels consistent throughout so your mic isn't clipping during intense sections, etc. Whatever you do, just play to your strengths and the rest will come naturally.

>> No.7230854 [DELETED] 

Someone post the version where he calls him fuckin lizard

>> No.7230858
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>search for her name with no censor on biqle

I bet its boring as fuck latex shit, she only bimboed up her lips and tits. But thanks anyway.

Man ritual entertainment got it too rough. I loved their shit even with the jank. They should be doing shit now not with quake 1 or 3 engines.

>> No.7230861

>the PS2 port kinda had that

Really? I should go see it.

>> No.7230863 [DELETED] 

We need more anons doing longform documentary style videos on retro FPS games or even more scripted and edited walkthrough review videos like Civvie. There are already 10,000 autists doing unscripted commentary over Doom wads

>> No.7230868

Gay post. TNT is good and there should be more TNT wads

>> No.7230874 [DELETED] 
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TNT is

>> No.7230881

TNT's good maps make up for the number of absolutely abysmal levels. A modern approach to TNT would be much more playable for the average player tbph

>> No.7230917

I know, I just mean I'm envious as fuck of him. It's like the whole growing bitter and jaded part of life just skipped him by.

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>> No.7230930

The video he did about the Doom level he made based on his own home is cool as hell. I love that his family gets in on it too.


>> No.7230932

He's fairly old now, he's probably learned how to change his own outlook on life in a positive creative way. I envy men like him too, anon, but you can either continue to let bitterness define you or attempt to look at the world in a different light.

>> No.7230943

Being Mormon might also have something to do with it too, the few Mormons I've met were all happy as could be.

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>He's fairly old now
Here he is fairly young in 1981, the year Call of Cthulu was released.

>> No.7230946

She did some camwhoring and even fucked a rando there for a while but is boring.
She and that ariane chick ended up being a bad waste of a good cosplay whore.
also she really did amateur for a studio but that video is lost since is pre 2007

>> No.7230947

his secret: he has never wageslaved in his entire life, he was either working on tabletop or video games his entire existence, shit he likes and cares about

strong communities are happy communities

>> No.7230953

Well she came to late for modern shit. She is already too bimboish old. The pre 20007 could have been nice.

>> No.7230956

Not trying to do a gotcha on your on anything, but -- I asume by this you mean male mormons right?

Because women in mormon communities typically feel extremely trapped and repressed. Specially young ones. I'm friends with one that escaped the church, was disowned by her family, and has a lot of horror stories about it.

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>> No.7230961

Sharpie in pooper or gtfo.

>> No.7230969


I believe in shit jung says about that, you have to start to mentally prepare for death. And instead of big dick creative energies, you have to use your wisdom instead.

I know an old carpenter which is exactly like that and the polar opposite of many old people I know.

Whatever, it was relevant to Elexis cosplay.

>> No.7230984 [DELETED] 

Sandy's commentary on Doom Eternal while his son played was pretty based

>> No.7230992

you see that he liked the game's art and stage layout.
Again, someone needs to hand him Trenchbroom or Jackhammer+Lazarus with Q1 and Q2 in it to see how far he goes.

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still tons of work to do but this kinda works

>> No.7230997

J.A.C.K. is a nightmare to deal with compared to Trenchbroom.

>> No.7231000

Ah, I see zoomers finally wised up to the fact that we are wearing the original coomer picture as a mark of honor, just like it happened back in the day with 30-year old boomer, so now they are trying to introduce even more disgusting version of coomer, naively assuming we don't co-opt it as well.

>> No.7231002 [DELETED] 

Nice digits coomer

>> No.7231008

Trips of truth.

>> No.7231009

The model format has limited precision for vertices. Ross got it right. Quake 1 had the same problem but it was harder to notice because the guns didnt have idle animations and there werent NPC's or other characters you could see moving up-close.

>> No.7231014

I know very few genuinely wise men, my own father is one of them - I'm certain because he'll never make an arrogant claim of wisdom. I still hope that one day I can be as satisfied with life as he is. One day...

>> No.7231018 [DELETED] 

What the fuck is this?

>> No.7231024

Raycast engine???

>> No.7231027


Coomer Pride World Wide

Yeah, Wormhole, Open Season, Stronghold, Dead Zone, Heck, they're all rock solid.

>> No.7231031
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Based as a well used quad damage Thunderbolt rampage.

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I'd comment on either of those programs, but I don't know JACK about them.

>> No.7231038

Because Q2 Engine uses vertex nurbs animations over bones, which became a thing later on in idtech3's life
You can Still remove all of it and port the animations to bones, but No one has ever tried to make a Sourceport for Q2 that fixes this and adds bones animations, mostly because Q2 anims are tied to the game's code, and the game has tons of unused animations due to its rushed development caused by timmy willits bullying American Mc Gee, Sandy and Bryan Hook, while spewing lies into lies on carmack's ears.

>> No.7231040

Get the fuck out of here Carlos

>> No.7231045

Because the position data in animations was a single byte per vertex, and not even fixed point. So it's somewhat related to the reason why polygons jiggle in ps1 games. Quake 2 does proper subpixel rasterization of polygons, but it doesn't maintain high enough resolution in animation data to keep the distances between vertexes consistent between frames.

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>> No.7231048 [DELETED] 

Is he writing his own?

>> No.7231056

portal-based polygon rasterizer engine. i was using doom BSPs before but generating pvs from it was too difficult (and the built-in maps were too detailed for the genesis anyway), so I switched over to portals with a manually created map.

no raycasting, like doom and duke 3d it transforms polygons to screenspace.
wolf 3d used raycasting and transformed rays into world space, which is sort of the opposite solution.

>> No.7231057

IQM format exists for that, even Q2Xp and the old ports of generations arena weapons which uses md2 got rid of it with some tricks.

IQM handles all of the anims within the file itself sauerbraten.org/iqm/

>> No.7231069

Yeah you could probably figure out a way to lessen the issue via the data (extra frames maybe), or with a sourceport, but the engine fundamentally has the same problem.

>> No.7231073

Oh yeah, idtech1 and Build both used BSP trees didn't they?

>> No.7231080

build uses a portal graph, doom uses a bsp tree

>> No.7231081

The engine issues were fixed years ago thanks to Quake 2 Evolved, sadly the engine and forums died with PlanetQuake TeamBlur, the russians got that later thanks to berserker, KMQ2 and so on.

>> No.7231086

I'm doing the ultimate retro fps on ue4, it'd an amalgamation of best (or worst9 things of old fps
will surely crash and burn because I don't do a single thing right

>> No.7231090

Is there any way to backport QII monsters into Q1?
This video is the opposite, but I'm far more interested in QII stuff in Q1 as someone just getting into Q1 mapping. I think there's a lot of potential for techbase maps giving way to the hellish underbelly of high ranking officers worshipping Quake below.

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Quake 1/Ranger Lore: Based or Cringe?

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>> No.7231126


Here's a bunch you don't have on your list, varying quality and eligibility.

>Devil Daggers
Horde/Arena Horror themed

Fantasy FPS - "Roguelike"

Skulltag Dev Doom Clone - Bobby Prince OST

Rocketjumping/Jumpmap type game

>Hard Reset
Cyberpunk themed boomshoot

>Perilous Warp
Generic Doom/Quake Clone

Shameless Doom Clone

>Paradox Vector
Tron Graphics boomshoot

>Cathedral 3D
Horde/Arena with Quakelike movement

>> No.7231132

Quad Cringe.

>> No.7231135 [DELETED] 

Devil Daggers doesn't count

>> No.7231146

I imagine a few of them don't, I stretched a bit and included a few that were just skin-deep in influence.

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Based, can't wait till the Doom 2016/Eternal style reboot of Quake comes, it's in the works and will be announced in 2021. Expect a big expansion of the lore ala the Doom Slayer of nuDoom.

>> No.7231151

>Hard Reset
I tried getting into those, but goddamn I can't believe just how unfun they are. And Hard Reset devs are the ones who would later butcher Shadow Warrior franchise. Poland truly was a mistake.

>> No.7231153 [DELETED] 

I will check them out, remember this is going to be /doom/ approved throwback shooters list

>> No.7231157
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I've been screwing around with the class selection screen, the old thing was cramped and it gets pushed off screen at low resolutions. Right now I feel like I have too much dead space but most people seem to like this setup.

>> No.7231159

I never tried hard reset
but fuck wrack
way too short and it never continued

>> No.7231163

Yep just tossing shit at the wall and maybe some will stick, not gonna get hurt over it kek

>> No.7231169

Same, Wrack's movement feels like ass and the animations are laughable.
I remember picking up Hard Reset around when it came out and just getting bored, I didn't even know you stopped fighting robots halfway through.

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Markie Music, a guy who has done music for some throwback boomer shooters, did a theme for Ranger that kicks ass

>> No.7231174 [DELETED] 

Some of these will be included, thank you

>> No.7231189

Ehh. Not feeling it.

>> No.7231202 [DELETED] 

I like how he incorporated Reznor's original themes in it, take over a minute to start going hard but when it does it is pretty awesome. Good stuff.

>> No.7231208

A little too Doom 2016 for me.

>> No.7231209

>developing more on Quake 1
Could be cool.

>lore ala Doom Eternal
It's just...
I hope they don't do the same things, and I hope they don't do a bunch of needless capeshit style crossover cringe.

>> No.7231217

Any lore added after Quake 1 is cringe.

>> No.7231224

looks amazing

boom-compatible version when (just kidding)

>> No.7231228
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>Any lore is cringe.

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Nothing more or less than what's in a manual is all that's needed. A modern approach to this concept is in Amid Evil.

>> No.7231241

Never bothered with the QC lore - didn't even read your image - but I like the more earnest notions of Quake than Doomguy, though that's what most people love about Doomguy. Demons got his rabbit, demons are going to pay. But Ranger is the nth degree of "I didn't sign up for this shit, I just want to go home." But he'll never go home. He's trapped between the slipgates, forever fighting Quake's seemingly endless generals. He'll never see the fruits of his trials. But despite of all of this complete and utter suffering, he's still fighting.

>> No.7231258
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>Demons got his rabbit, demons are going to pay
Daisy never seemed to matter much prior to the new Doom reboot outside of the screen in Doom and screen with accompanying text scrawl in Ultimate.

>> No.7231260 [DELETED] 

In my opinion, the QC stuff only adds to Ranger as a character. It's good stuff and nothing crazy, just that he has been wandering through dimensions for 20 years since Operation Counterstrike and the showdown with Shub-Niggurath trying to find a way home to get back to his wife and daughter and that he was a Vietnam vet. Ranger issue of the QC comic is cool. That image is half original lore and half QC stuff

>> No.7231268

Amid Evil is fun, it's like it tries to be Doom, Quake, Hexen and Heretic all at once.

>> No.7231284

>tfw actually paid for wrack with the expectation that he would finish the game
>he never did
Fuck that game, and fuck Carnevil.

>> No.7231285

I kinda wish that someone could do a SiN mechanics inspired for Q2 and Kingpin.

And QC makes both Q1 and Q2 games connected, because the crates that you see ingame are from Stroggos, and The Makron is serving the elder gods to the point of dotting all of Cerberon with Magic runes, and even the reason of why he survived is because he can probably transfer his soul into another being which Q4 hints that he is now Matthew Kane

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It does a great job

>> No.7231289 [DELETED] 

The Lovecraftian theme has tons of potential, if they stay true to that I am I am sure it'll be awesome. There is no reason not to use the huge opportunity the theme gives in this regard just because Carmack had an autistic aversion to story and lore in 1996. I am sure Sandy would approve, it's his influence that got us the story we got.

>> No.7231297
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>The Lovecraftian theme has tons of potential
Absolutely, and you need only express it through level+environment design and a few sentences.

>> No.7231310
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You forgot this fashionable first-person Doom clone shooter:

>> No.7231313 [DELETED] 

No, that's a huge waste of potential. It doesn't have to be MGS levels of story but so many cool things could be done.

>> No.7231314

What's a portal graph?

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How do you feel about Romero and Tom Hall saying that Rise of the Triad and Heretic are the same universe?

>> No.7231325

yo whoever recommended HELLEVATOR

I just grabbed it and played through a few maps --- SO MUCH FUN

also it is using that kickass vertical opening door that has two interleaved halves, one going up and one going down? i first saw that in 2048 units of /vr/ i think?

anyway thanks again, anon. i'll go through the whole thing

seriously, so many good wads these days (especially if you ignore the cacowards lol)

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What baffles me most about it is that its artstyle by all means looks like it is a fucking eyesore, yet I just can't hate it. Especially since I noticed how the water transparency works. What a magnificent bastards they are.

Romero says the darndest things.

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>> No.7231331

>No, that's a huge waste of potential
Of what, a fat load of codex entry word vomit? Just keep it simple and you can still get across traveling across loads of worlds, enemies, encounters, etc. Again, Amid Evil accomplishes this neatly; I'd argue even original Quake, it's expansions, and Arcane Dimensions does as well.
Original Doom was also good about this: Compared to all that's in the manual, there's nothing quite like reaching Phobos Anomaly to get torn to shreds, with oddly appropriate music reflecting the situation.
I feel somewhat indifferent to thinking it's kind of neat.

>> No.7231336

a graph is just a group of nodes (some piece of data) with connections between them. connected nodes are related in some way.

in this case the nodes are convex sectors (groups of walls that are convex), connected to other sectors via "portals". the relation between connected sectors is that they're physically connected, but you can do other effects with portals.

build uses a similar idea, but with concave sectors because ken silverman is some kind of alien genius.

>> No.7231338

Romero also said MAP15's broken secret was intentional.

>> No.7231340

It took awhile, some nvidia help, and another playthrough to find some settings that I liked. It really does bleed with default settings.

>> No.7231350

Nah, it's weird, but I just hiked the FOV up to 100 and I'm content with it otherwise.

>> No.7231354

So nodes are like vertexes? Connected by edges make your sectors and two sectors can be portaled through if they're roughing, or otherwise told to?
Also, how would you make a convex sector? All edges of a geometric shape have to add up to a certain degree. What defines convex and concave in this?

>> No.7231364

nodes are groups of walls. In doom the equivalent would be subsectors. Each subsector is a convex group of walls represented by a node in the bsp tree.

>> No.7231365

It was?

>> No.7231368

convex - no line drawn through a wall can intersect another wall in the group

concave - certain lines through a wall intersect through multiple walls in the group.

convex is a desirable property because it means that within a single convex group of walls, you know that none of them can overlap each other on-screen.

>> No.7231380 [DELETED] 

Just finished Heretic. Very cool game. Is Hexen as good?

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>> No.7231398

I think so, yes.

>> No.7231406 [DELETED] 

What class is the most fun? I tried Cleric since the stats seemed balanced, is there anything more to melee combat but spamming attack and backing away when they attack?

>> No.7231417

>that .webm

that's just mean.

>> No.7231437

Get To The Orange Door
Maximum Action
Heavy Bullets
Post Void
Chex Quest HD (horrible)
Hell Hunt
High Hell
Immortal Redneck
Mad Sector
Maximum Action
POSTAL: Brain Damaged
Post Void
Shrine II
Ziggurat 2
there are a ton more in the steampeak (augmented steam)

>> No.7231448

>Is Hexen as good?
Do you like switch hunts?

>> No.7231450

Okay. Thanks for taking the time to dimb it down a bit. I'm closer to getting it, but at this point I'll have to look up a diagram and get my definitions sorted, since they don't seem to comport with much of my previous experience.

>> No.7231452

>Ziggurat 2
Oh shit. I love the first one. Had no idea.

>> No.7231458 [DELETED] 

Not sure I would could remasters or whatever like Chex Quest

>> No.7231462

>Get To The Orange Door
It would be a lot more fun if the game didn't run like the framerate wasn't fucked so it looks like it's running at a low framerate even though it's really high for me (i.e. it's 200+ or so but when you look around it feels like 30 or so). I'm honestly kinda disappointed that it hasn't been fixed yet, but to be fair it's only one guy making it.

>> No.7231463

is a remake, the maps are not the same, it's also very amateurish and it shows

>> No.7231464 [DELETED] 

Immortal Redneck is a rogue like, would that really count? It looks retro-ish in style but otherwise idk.

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>> No.7231472 [DELETED] 

Is it really THAT bad? Seems like a meme.

>> No.7231474

now that you mention that there is another one with cats, ehrm, I don't remember the name

>> No.7231478

gunfire reborn

>> No.7231484

>What class is the most fun?
For me it's the Fighter because I love his speed and the axe, but they all have their merits. Cleric has the best final weapon, but the mace is awful. The Mage has the best starting weapons, but his other spells are kind of underwhelming.
>is there anything more to melee combat but spamming attack and backing away when they attack?
Nope, not really. It's very basic.

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>> No.7231491

Mormonism is a hell of a drug.

>> No.7231509

It ain't good, that's for sure. If you pull a switch, you should be able to immediately see what it did, otherwise you should use a colored key - that's how good level design is supposed to work. But in Hexen you often need to pull eight different switches to open a door, and they're not even on a same map, but all over the hub, and the switches don't clearly indicate what they do. I heard Hexen II is even worse in this regard, but I can't comment on that.

>> No.7231529 [DELETED] 

Hexen mod for Doom 3

>> No.7231532

which is unfinished forever

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Get shat on, Hexen is B A S E D

>> No.7231545

Do you expect mapsets to be similar to Doom 2 on UV, or harder?

>> No.7231554
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>Quake 2 Evolved
It's a shame that they stopped working on that
And started working on a Enemy Territory clone

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Based on Romero's design documents he was supposed to be working on back at id?

>> No.7231570

here is a blast from the past

pastebin has evolved along with Knightmare's patch for it

>> No.7231572

I've never played Heretic, Hexen, etc. Which is the best one of these to start with?

>> No.7231580

Hairy dick

>> No.7231581

Mapsets should specify difficulty levels and whatever degree of support they have.

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Heretic. It's a more straightforward experience and introduction to the world. You can run the wad with any modern source port.

>> No.7231591

Heretic if you want Doom with a fantasy skin and an inventory. Hexen if you want something a little different with non linear level design and character classes. Most people I know play Heretic first.

>> No.7231602 [DELETED] 

How many commerically released Doom TCs were there? Heretic, Hexen, Hacx.. Are there others?

>> No.7231605

Are any of the items other than the spellbook really mandatory on the medium difficulty? The items have been the only thing making me hesitant towards the game for awhile now.

>Non-linear level design
As in hub worlds, or perhaps switches in one level having effects on other levels, that sort of stuff? And is Hexen really as 'bad' of a switch hunt as people have made it out to be?

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>> No.7231613

>And is Hexen really as 'bad' of a switch hunt as people have made it out to be?
It can get pretty confusing at times, but I'm sure most people who complain got filtered by the first hub.

>> No.7231619

He was obviously kidding
It's somewhat of a meme. There are switch hunts, but it's not like you're completely blind, the game gives you some guidance on what to do. Like if you press a switch that affects another level, itll say something like "a door has opened in x level". Since the maps arent huge, it shouldnt be that difficult to just remember what it says and find the door.

>> No.7231625

Thanks for the Hexen and Heretic advice guys, I'm going to give both an honest try.

>> No.7231628

That's my point to

>> No.7231640
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Have fun, anon.

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I kept fuckin around with this

>> No.7231730

well since the anon were playing q2 and asked about it
Here is all that i did for Q2 for the upscaling shenanigans, with some updates, mainly weapons, and the Skyboxes pak

have fun diddling, playing or editing this

>> No.7231735 [DELETED] 

>Are any of the items other than the spellbook really mandatory on the medium difficulty? The items have been the only thing making me hesitant towards the game for awhile now.
No, you can play and never use the other shit

>> No.7231739
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it ranges from vanilla til GZ and Reckoning

>> No.7231742
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Quake's grenade launcher is among the funnest weapons to use of all time. The arching trajectory and slow-moving projectile means it's very difficult to land shots at first, but it makes it that much more satisfying to score hits, and the very high damage output makes it worth it. More importantly, because the projectile moves slower than a rocket, you get more time to move out of the way so you can use the grenade launcher at closer ranges than the rockets, you can bounce shots around corners, and the grenade launcher fires faster so it does more damage assuming your shots hit.

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>> No.7231751 [DELETED] 

He wasn't kidding and Tom Hall retweeted and agreed, they were both being developed at the same time, came out within days of each other and Romero was involved in the development of Heretic and around Apogee's offices visiting Tom and checking out ROTT throughout development. It's not a stretch for him to have made this connection or discussed it with Tom/Raven even if it isn't stated in either game.

>> No.7231753

that looks better

>> No.7231758

Quartz Flask is basically a Medikit that you carry around, Tome of Power beefs your weapons up to a sometimes absurd degree for a short period of time, Shadow Sphere is kinda like the blursphere but actually kinda useful, since physical projectiles like the knight axes will go through you while its active. Other than that the Ring of Invulnerability is pretty obvious, and Wings of Wrath are great for backtracking to get goodies you might have missed. The others like the Chaos Device and Time Bomb are a bit more niche, but since you can only carry one of each item between levels, its never a bad idea to use any excess whenever it suits you. Chaos Device in particular can be great for not getting ambushed by monster closets when learning new maps.

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Yes and no. Within one hub (which is a level) are multiple areas with an overarching puzzle to solve, you're only given a message telling you how far you are into solving something or what is set off when you make progress. It can be vague, but what grinds my fucking gears about Hexen are the fucking Centaurs. Bloody things just cockblock all of your attacks as long as their shield is up unless Parias or Daedolon use flechettes, and there's even a variant with projectiles. They make the combat even worse and there's up to 344 of the regular ones in the game too, fuck them.

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Rise of the Triad does have a lot of magical shit laying around like Mercury Flight, God Mode and Dog Mode, a magical staff weapon and El Oscuro and his monks use magic.

>> No.7231770

I agree, thank you anon, it's just nice to give it some much needed breathing room, that old one was bad about that.

>> No.7231773

Based and Quakepilled.
>Ranger my man my arm is stuck pls help what are you doing with that grenade launcher?

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>> No.7231780

This one is better, but you should mock up a Combined Arms logo and stick it in the center. The right side negative space here >>7231717 is super annoying.

>> No.7231802

>soul patch Hilter
hahahahahaha. I feel like this guy isn't a failed artist but a failed Razor Scooter salesman

>> No.7231813

Ty mate. I'm about five levels in now and it's been okay. The level and monster design is pretty solid but other than when using a Tome of Power I couldn't give two shits about any of the weapons except the crossbow out of what I've found so far. Does the game start to get more interesting during the second episode, or is it more of the same?

>> No.7231816 [DELETED] 

Do the Bethesda ports edit Hitler, is that the Unity one? His armband reminds me of ROTT

>> No.7231821
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The multi-grenade does the same damage as a normal grenade if it hits before breaking apart into more grenades, so I spend regular rocket/grenade ammo with the grenade launcher, and save my multi-rockets for the rocket launcher

>> No.7231826 [DELETED] 

Yeah, that's how he looks in Wolfenstein RPG and if you hit it it smack him as it looks in the right frame

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How about this? Also I need that extra room on the right for the sake of the other weapons in the other sets. I feel like putting a logo on the class select window is a bit much.

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>> No.7231846

>Also I need that extra room on the right for the sake of the other weapons in the other sets
Is that so? Well then I've got no real complaints. The one in the post I'm replying to just makes it apparent how close the sword is to the first.

>> No.7231848

How can one man be THIS Quakepilled?

>> No.7231851
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I could always shorten the baton in the weapon select screen a little, I think I made it too long here compared to how it is in game

>> No.7231857

Most of the weapons are by default designed more around pushing back enemies than they are just quickly killing them outright. Its a bit of an annoyance to some people how spongy a lot of the enemies in Heretic can be, but thats generally what you're going to be looking at with some of them.

Episode 1 has great archetecture, but bad combat. Just like with Doom 1, you can get most of the weapons pretty early in E2 (if you can find the secrets,) so that should help you get a good idea about how they feel. As for enemies, it keeps gradually adding more that fill different niches, and the boss tier enemies have pretty interesting attacks (they "choose" which attack to use, instead of just sticking with the same thing every time you're in view.)

By itself it's probably not going to completely blow you away, but there are a lot of interesting things to appreciate in it. There are also a good chunk of gameplay mods that are compatible with it like Guncaster, Samsara, Heretical Doom, etc that can change up the weapons and/or monsters behavior a bit if you're still not feelin it after a few episodes.

I would say to at least play through Episodes 1-3, since that was the base game, then if you don't like it, try it with mods or move on.

>> No.7231864 [DELETED] 

Whoa these look fuckin NEATO how do I play it? Give now.

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>Wolfenstein RPG
reposting this
All the id RPGs are fucking based. Carmack wrote the engine (over a weekend, if I recall correctly. He said he decided to finally check out gaming on cell phones and found them incredibly lame so decided to make something himself) and it was clearly inspired by the type of predominantly Western classic first person dungeon crawler PC RPGs that Carmack had played back in the day. He said he decided to go with the style he did as a way to design within the limitations of the platform instead of making a shitty half assed platformer that plays like shit or whatever.

There were 5 using the engine. Doom RPG, Doom II RPG, Wolfenstein RPG and Orcs & Elves 1 and 2, an original traditional fantasy IP made for the engine.

You can find all the iD RPG games and an emulator to play them here. I run them on my Android phone with J2ME Loader and it works great. There's an onscreen keypad for the buttons. If you want to play on PC just use the Windows version of J2ME Loader.

All the iD RPG games are in this archive:

Also, Doom II RPG had an exclusive black and white comic book tie-in. You can read it here:

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Give me some more time anon. I need to finish up the last BFG tier weapon, and do some more much needed polishing for another set.

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Wew is Artificer a woman?

>> No.7231885 [DELETED] 

No you fucking coomer

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Nah. He's just a weirdo. Though looking at that sketch again he looks kinda feminine there.
Might have been during that phase Ultra64 was drawing anime grills.

>> No.7231887

i wonder how outdated those screenshots are

>> No.7231893

2. I'm using MarkV WinQuake in 640x480 stretched but the analogous look in QS would be r_scale 2. WinQuake uses software rendering also so it won't look the same in QS AFAIK

>> No.7231895

>Implying I take insult to that moniker
Never gonna make it, brah.
>Though looking at that sketch again he looks kinda feminine there.

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>Also, Doom II RPG had an exclusive black and white comic book tie-in

>> No.7231918 [DELETED] 

Are those eyes on the side of his neck?

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Not very actually, I had sent Ultra a test build back in May/June, the Past Linked set was done back then and the top screenshot with the pistol is fine, the only thing that's really outta place now is the old thermometer in the middle pic, it's getting a facelift as seen here.

It's an understandable mistake I think, you're good.

His eyes swing around in his helmet freely. Like I said, he's a weirdo.
I feel weird doing big multiple quote replies like this.

>> No.7231960

Get back to work, Kegan. I want to play this by next week. What do I pay you for?

>> No.7231963

His helmet is filled with blueberry jam and two plums.

>> No.7231965 [DELETED] 

>His eyes swing around in his helmet freely. Like I said, he's a weirdo.
Kinda gay

>> No.7231969

>Not very actually
huh, interesting good luck.

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To each their own.

>> No.7232010

>too much dead space
Less is more. Too much clutter and it looks confusing. The dead space is mainly a result of different-sized sprites, as far as I'm concerned. The space lets the eyes categorize the separate slots easier

>> No.7232035

>Ross released higher quality versions of Sin's soundtrack
Hey thats cool

>> No.7232073
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>playing deathmatch on a doom server
>first round, doing pretty good, having fun.
>second round: I'm winning! I'm winning!
>round is over, I literally won
>I was playing against three bots

>> No.7232075

I reckon most typical pwads should try to at least make Skill 1/2 comparable to Doom 2 or TNT on UV, so that newer players can have a mode to fall back to if even Skill 3 is too much.
Only exception is slaughtermaps, or other niche types of hard wads, where Doom 2 UV style of gameplay balance simply wouldn't work without completely butchering the map. So in such cases, probably better to use Plutonia Map32 or whatever "easy" example map of niche hard gameplay as a base for skill 1/2 gameplay.

>> No.7232083

I think this looks perfectly readable, honestly. Very easy to understand.

>> No.7232112

I kept getting second place in those recent /vr/ dm games. Pissed me off a tad, cannot lie.

>> No.7232135

Disgusting aliasing.

>> No.7232148

how do i lower the texture bit depth in quakespasm at 1080p60fps

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>> No.7232197
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Finally beat Valiant recently, UV pistol starts no saves, except 2-3 levels where I saved. I've been unsure of what to play next, but now I know: Plutonia in 320x200 resolution. I've never played it before and I think I'm good enough to beat it pistol starts no saves and I want to play it Just Like It Was Played™ hence the resolution. I would use Chocolate Doom but I like my vertical recoil pitch option because it reminds me of Doom 64 and the weapon feedback feels great so I'll use Crispy, but low-res mode in 4:3 to mimic Chocolate. Also I wanna test out the Plutonia MIDI pack with the RLNDGM soundfont and the new SC-55 soundfont above. I'm really happy with the MIDIs so far, especially map20 (which is also Eviternity's intermission music)

>> No.7232231
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>when you run up to a chaingunner with the SSG and get the blockmap bug

>> No.7232250
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Boom to boom

>> No.7232256
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But we need to go FASTER still.

>> No.7232257
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This section kicks my ass

>> No.7232269
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This MIDI has no business being this good. Both RLNDGM and the new SC-55 soundfonts are doing really well, with RLNGDM sound better for some songs and vice versa

Also fuck these tunnels for making me eat a rocket.

>> No.7232290

WRATH vs Graven vs Prodeus

>> No.7232298

I don't like wizard shit, so Prodeus or Wrath. Prodeus if you want action straight to your veins, Wrath if you want Unreal + Quake.

>> No.7232301

Most interested in Graven. I backed Prodeus, though.

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>> No.7232386

Is it possible to disable all the postprocessing cringe in Prodeus so it actually looks like a 90s game?

>> No.7232392


>> No.7232401

Strife, Chex Quest

>> No.7232406
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Under 4 minutes tonight.

>> No.7232412

nope, there isn't much graphic options in general

>> No.7232413

Back when QDQ was new I remember doing this map in very little time. I don't remember the number exactly, but you should watch that because even if you're not timing the strats perfectly it has good ideas.

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Somebody is lying...

>> No.7232418

See "native"

>> No.7232421

You can remove the screen effects like grain, filters and dithering in the options (it even has the slider so you can adjust how much of each you have from 100 to 0)

>> No.7232426

>14 seconds
Jesus christ. Unfortunately I'm doing the Quoth version, Back To Gloom Keep, hence the higher monster count.

>> No.7232437

you can't turn off stuff like vignette.

>> No.7232438

Oh yeh. Fair enough.

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>> No.7232493

>Devil Daggers
Gameplay in those isn't really reminiscent of 90s shooters.
>Hard Reset
That's more like Serious Sam and Painkiller.

>> No.7232494
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Few weapons are as satisfying as the Ingram MAC-10. Funny thing is, the real one is probably faster and even more inaccurate. Also this game is surprisingly easy on the hardest difficulty. I had a rough first playthrough because I unironically was trying to play the game like Doom, just running into room and strafing enemies, but if you chill out and peek corners in 3rd person and use your bullet-time, it becomes pretty easy to blast through without saves on even the hardest difficulty since it doesn't change very much

>> No.7232510

From that thumbnail, I thought Deathshead was Sam Hyde

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Found a secret stash of three AK-47 magazines, now I'm stacked on ammo and can just mag dump when I want to

>> No.7232521

Let's say I want to make and sell (for money) a low-poly oldschool FPS.
What engine should I use that won't run like shit on older hardware, while still allowing for decently complex levels?
GZDoom would work weird with low poly 3D since enemies will only turn at 45 degree angles and IDK how to get around that. Plus any room-over-room geometry very significantly impacts performance.
IIRC Quakespasm can't be used commercially
Darkplaces runs like shit on older hardware
Unity and Unreal 4 run like ass and are bloated with a lot of overhead shit you can't disable (while technically you can in Unity, it requires rather expensive PRO subscription)
GODOT is even more expensive than Unity.
No idea about Xash3D have to look into it. Haven't seen anything on it that didn't immediately screamed "HL mod LMAO" to me.

>> No.7232527

I love games from this era. Kinda low poly but really good borderline lifelike textures at certain times. Look at that carpet theyre standing on. hundreds of rows of carpet fiber and even little stain spots all over. The pizza looks like crap but the grease stains on the box looks great.

>> No.7232528

Carpal tunnel kicked in. Can't do it, at least not tonight. Here's the .dem for anyone interested.
3:57 or 58 is easily possible considering how much I fucked up, but there's too much RNG for me to bother trying with a bad wrist. Good luck anyone who takes it up.

>> No.7232529
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>GODOT is even more expensive than Unity.
It's FOSS.

>> No.7232530

Packing a mac in the back of the ac, I see. I never did find my PC Max Payne discs, I have a ps2 copy of 2 kicking around though. Once I get bored of DMoMaM tonight I think I'll throw it on for a bit

>> No.7232531

He's done that before, multiple times even.

>> No.7232532

>Lapenko on /vr
Can we just stop pretending and speak russian already?

>> No.7232534

Good job anon, that was me a few months ago. I ended up really adoring plutonia and it was so satisfying to improve through the experience.

>> No.7232537

Fuck i meant "performance expensive", as in runs the exact same scene with much worse FPS.
There are ways to optimise by cutting physics and a lot of interactivity, but at that point you might as well be using Darkplaces.

>> No.7232541

Alright that's what I assumed you meant, just needed to make sure.
I'd say GZDoom would be your best bet but make damn sure you have everything sorted out so you don't get bitten in the ass, I have no idea how it's set up for commercial stuff, like if there's anything that needs to be stripped out.

>> No.7232542

>IIRC Quakespasm can't be used commercially
Isn't Quake 1 open source?

>> No.7232558

Open Source means you can look inside and modify for your own perusal. But that does not mean you can sell your modifications, or games you made with them.
The intelectual property and commercial rights still belong to id Software
The license Doom and Quake engines were released does not allow for commercial use, which is why it was a big deal for Darkplaces and GZDoom to be entirely rewritten to allow them to use different GPL license that allows commercial use.

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You dropped this. Interesting to know. Shame about DP being shit for old hardware. Would like to see more Quake engine based games.

>> No.7232579

GZDoom went full commercially viable GPL at some point before 4.0 (don't remember exact version), you dont have to take anything out of it, except maybe FluidSynth, but that's just a DLL, delete it and game won't show it.

Modifying its code to allow monsters to turn at angles different from 45 degrees (which is important if you want to use 3D models, as even low-poly quickly starts to look like shit with restriction like this) would be rather difficult, as IIRC it's tied to decorate, ZScript and whole lot of other shit that would also need rewriting and that's a can of worms im not ready to open

>> No.7232585

Looks interesting, but the weapon textures are kinda off.

>> No.7232589

What's interesting about Quake is that ogres have it. So, unlike most shooters, most of the game you aren't dodging projecticles - you are avoiding bouncing grenades and splash damage.

>> No.7232621
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My poopy computer can run Max Payne 2 on maximum graphic settings and it's not too far off from playing a modern game on low settings. For example, I used to play Holdfast (uninstalled it to play more retro since it was consuming too much time) and I had to play it with all the settings on low
You can get it from the OP, that's what I did. I don't feel bad, I bought both games 15-20 years ago.

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How do I kill these four enemies in map18 of 2048 units of /vr/? I see no trigger to lower the platforms.

>> No.7232647

This is somewhat incorrect.

The Doom engine source code was under the DSL, a non-commercial license, from its original release in 1997 to when it was re-licensed in 1999 to the GPL.

The Quake engine source code, on the other hand, was never under a non-commercial license, and has been licensed under the GPL since it was released in 1999.

Most modern Doom source ports, except for certain ports which still continue to use DSL licensed code, like ZDaemon, are licensed under the GPL or compatible licenses, and are perfectly okay to use for commercial use cases.

Quakespasm, at least from what i can tell from the Sourceforge page, has no commercial usage restrictions either.

>> No.7232651

Doom engine and Quake engine both have GPL releases, actually.
Doom engine did initially have a different "Doom Source Code License" release that prohibited commercial use, with many early source ports using such license before the GPL re-release happened. GZDoom used to use it because of trying to stay inline with ZDoom, but once ZDoom was discontinued, Graf was free to clean things up for GPL. ZDaemon and Zandronum still use this old license.
Quake engine has always been GPL since its source code release.

>> No.7232654 [DELETED] 

This shit is not FPS and is not on topic

>> No.7232663 [DELETED] 

Prodeus as it stands now though I think Graven might end up being then best of the three.
As other anons said yes, that other guy is full of shit

>> No.7232664

>Also, Doom II RPG had an exclusive black and white comic book tie-in.
Never knew about it, cool!

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Mac version.

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>> No.7232679 [DELETED] 

I think so

>> No.7232684 [DELETED] 

Who is God's name is the Doom GBA guy supposed to be? Is that some guy from RTCW or something? It looks like a digitized sprite of a textured 3D model

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>> No.7232714

>playing deathmatch in quake
>nobody in my region awake so i play against bots
>still get last place
i think i may be retarded

>> No.7232718

>also it is using that kickass vertical opening door that has two interleaved halves, one going up and one going down? i first saw that in 2048 units of /vr/ i think?
Yes, I first used it on what would become MAP06 of 2048 units (Although at the time I couldn't make Boom work, so it was done with just two lines next to one another)

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>> No.7232753
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>Take break
>On a whim try again with hurting wrist
Oh baby it hurts but that was worth it. 3:56 is possible but I don't think I care enough.

>> No.7232769

It likely is Wilhelm Strasse AKA Deathshead's model from RTCW.

>> No.7232794

Today I learned that GZDoom doesnt actually have a compatibility setting that enables ghost monsters bug from vanilla. "Crushed Monsters can be resurrected" simply just toggles if crushed corpses can be resurrected at all, and doesnt actually have anything to do with the ghost monsters bug. Which honestly, makes this setting pointless.
There does exist a flag to enable it for automatic fixes, so that if you play a historically notable level relying on the bug, like Icarus map24, it should work as intended. But thats as far as GZDoom supports it.

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>Quakespasm, at least from what i can tell from the Sourceforge page, has no commercial usage restrictions either.

>> No.7232807

This, I like TNT

>> No.7232817

I just checked icarus alien vanguard because I remember playing it with gzdoom. The ghosts seem to work just fine, they even appear as slightly transparent so it's definitely possible.

>> No.7232820

Quake has shot viewmodel animations. Had anyone made any good ones?

>> No.7232826


>> No.7232829

I literally just explained why it works in stuff like Icarus

>> No.7232858
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Fuck gay ass RanGAY. CHADDERMAN is the real Quake man.

>> No.7232861

muh spaec muhreenz

>> No.7232879

Is there a download out there for the Sonic Mayhem Quake 1 soundtrack to use as a drop in replacement?

>> No.7232881

I don't know who this guy is but he looks like he's made of CHEESE! Ha Ha

>> No.7232883

Give RTCW a try sometime, it's pretty fun. I still think it's the peak of Wolfenstein.

>> No.7232889

nevermind, just found it, you'll have to rename the tracks to track02 - track10 though
would be nice to have a better quality rip than 128kbps but this is the best i found in my ten minutes of searching

>> No.7232904

This is the best thing I've seen all week. Thank you based anon and based Sandy

>> No.7232924 [DELETED] 

It's literally not an FPS. Do you see Third Person Shooters or TPS in OP?

>> No.7232927 [DELETED] 

It was in the news post for like two weeks newfag

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>> No.7232937 [DELETED] 

So we can discuss DMC and Syphon Filter in these threads now too?

>> No.7232972

They're shit

>> No.7232976

God I want to fuck Sandy Petersen

>> No.7232989

It's fine in Icarus because of this https://zdoom.org/wiki/Automatic_compatibility
>Icarus: Alien Vanguard MAP24: Crushed monsters can be resurrected and ghost monster bug reestablished
>Note that compatibility options that aren't linked but are described as "bug reestablished" are not, and will not be, available as normal compatibility options. They rely on the engine behaving in a fundamentally broken fashion and should not be used anymore.
You cannot manually enable it in settings. It exists in GZDoom for automatic compatibility only.

>> No.7233021

>reading news
>shitting on people
fuck off, honestly

>> No.7233026

News posts are part of this thread, if you're too much of a faggot to read them maybe you should go back to CringeWorld

>> No.7233062


>> No.7233085
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Because Q2 weapon textures are full of retaded artifacts due to the colormap limit and i didn't care to fix it because its boring.
Only the other weapons and the ETF rifle brought me attention to do it, even if the ETF kinda became shoddy a bit due to the fuckfest that is the textures.

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i wonder who wrote this post

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>> No.7233164

The real Doom II is No Rest for the Living.

>> No.7233173

>get gifted zoom eternal
>start the game
>you are forced to create a bethesda account to play the game at all
Off to a good start I see

>> No.7233190

I can understand BTSX E3, as its basically the modern Mordeth, but I'm surprised that TNT 2 isn't out yet. I remember a year and a half ago, Marcaek said on doomworld that they were only waiting on one and a half maps. What the hell is taking so long?

>> No.7233216

Plesse contribute. There is a github link at the bottom.

>> No.7233224

Nah, Final Doom is the real Doom 2

>> No.7233230

Please also contribute to www.retropew.com

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It kicks ass, we all know Bethesda is gay but it's worth it. Unlock the classic Doomguy skin ASAP, it only requires two crystals to unlock which you get relatively early.

>> No.7233257 [DELETED] 

No, it isn't, it's the real Doom II packaged with some shitty extra wads that people still pretend are good for some reason

>> No.7233262

This. Last AAA-megawad was Eviternity in 2018, we're overdue for something big.

>> No.7233275

Should I play quake's christmas jam 2020 before quake 1's expansions?

>> No.7233284 [DELETED] 

Whoa, what is this? Has someone already done the work for us of making a list of all the throwback boomer shooters?

>> No.7233289 [DELETED] 

SIGIL came out in 2019

>> No.7233291
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Exactly what gameplay changes are in Doom Zero that warranted the author writing multiple times that it's "absolutely not compatible with gameplay mods"? All I've seen so far are a couple changed sound effects and a slightl reskin of the plasma gun.

>> No.7233294 [DELETED] 

He said it ruined his balance

>> No.7233303
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How can i open a model textures .PCX file from within a .pak catalog without it sometimes showing up either as monochrome or this weird 'inverted sepia tone' thing in Gimp? (it happens with about 30% percent of images, which is frustrating enough - but with IrfanView it occurs like 80% of files it seems). Changing the pics into other formats dont help at all

>> No.7233314
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this is caused because Q2 Colormap and PCX format are archaic and most programs nowadays doesnt even use it anymore.

you need photoshop and irfanview with all plugins to show it up

>> No.7233320

There are adjusments to weapons and a new enemy and a new boss. The problem isn't how much is changed, but how it was changed. This was hacked in for DOS support in a way that's not compatible with the sourceport ways.

>> No.7233332

Are those ridges near the Prox's muzzle top part of the weapon model or applied via its textures? Kinda wish they could be easily removed/changed to differentiate its model from the normal GL even more a bit

>> No.7233340
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its part of the weapon model

>> No.7233357

Marcaek hit a severe mapping block and can't make a MAP26 for about 2 years now. Problem is, because caek is a teamlead, he doesn't let anyone else make MAP26, othewise his fragile ego breaks. So, TNT2 may never come out.

>> No.7233369

Honorable mention to Reflex Arena i see

>> No.7233375

Its quakewulf's pet project
its good for all around retroshooting stuff

>> No.7233396

getting bigtime Shatner vibes from this

>> No.7233401

Notice a really big 1998 release missing from the list

>> No.7233402

For fucks sake.

>> No.7233406

Sigil is good, but it's not "big megawad with lots of new textures" good.

>> No.7233407 [DELETED] 

Because Gay-Life is cringe

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>No, it's even better! Also REKKR is shit and Daikatana is a good game if you learn how the sidekick AI works bro! It was a victim of hype!

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>> No.7233426

you mean boring slaughterfests? No thanks

>> No.7233428

This meme's asshole is getting loose, you know.

>> No.7233432 [DELETED] 

FUCK no, xmas jam 2020 fucking sucks, all the official expansions and Arcane Dimensions are all bad ass and should be played immediately

>> No.7233438 [DELETED] 

>t. Revae

>> No.7233442

Alf and the discord gang is desperate.
just ignore them and let them kvetch

>> No.7233447

You probably think Plutonia is slaughter, lol.

>> No.7233448

Retroblazer. It is long dead, but the demo exists in a pretty decent state.

>> No.7233459

i'd rather play fucking shrak than sit through snoozemas jam 2020 again

>> No.7233460 [DELETED] 

Take your meds schizo

>> No.7233510

It's a list of FPS-games of various sorts from the old days to now following a less realistic approach.

You can contribute here:

>> No.7233529

>open source
>LITERALLY runs on phones
you just don't know shit, anon

>> No.7233549
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So, the textures works on the pastebin Q2Evolved port, but its hit and miss because of some file formats and conflicts since Q2E is a clusterfuck of JPG PNG and even TGA files for all textures and pk2 format
Oh and i forgot how the railgun in Q2E has a neat flickering effect which QC got it for theirs

>> No.7233592

I hated its look back in SoA and i still dont like it in GZ - at least Q3 Team Arena gave it a unique model thats not a GL reskin

>> No.7233613

okay but how do i lower the colors to 8 bit colors while keeping the game at a higher resolution and framerate

>> No.7233660

DigitalFoundry Played N64 hexen using split scren, and it seems that the n64 port had semi widescreen support for 2player split screen

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>> No.7233786

"Boomers" can't handle Chad Life

>> No.7233795
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and in?

>> No.7233806

But really, where the fuck does Half-Life fit in on the retro fps continuum? I mean you can say it revolutionized "the way stories are told," sure, but that has assfuck all to do with the actual fucking game. To me, half-life seemed like a fusion between making IRL places as DN3D maps, and Quake plus reloading. Half-Life doesn't have the cancerous semi-slow movement of CoD, nor is it realistic in any sense of the word. Half-Life is a weird middleground.

>> No.7233817

It came out in the 90's so it's retro.
Not that hard anon.

>> No.7233821

Yeah. That's what I was thinking. In the end, it really just is Quake + Reloading.

>> No.7233826

With better mods and more memorable.

>> No.7233829

Who says any game has to "fit" anywhere at all? Maybe a game is just a game and attempting to arbitrarily categorize things to such a degree is a waste of time. Its an FPS where you run around and shoot things

>> No.7233840

HL movement on goldSRC is still the same as Quake engine
in fact i still remember a demo where a guy crossed all of black mesa using all of the tricks.
Source is different because of how the physics work, but it feels kinda fast compared to Idtech4

>> No.7233849

only retarded journalists who have never played it claim it "revolutionized storytelling". it's just a fun game

>> No.7233862

I think HL was amazing. It was the middle ground for sure.
I still felt the maps could be bigger but I did not mind.

It was still self aware but more engaging than say Unreal 1 even if unreal 1 journey was better.

>> No.7233870

steam version sadly patched out bhopping because countersoy players were whining
if you want to waste some time you could download the sdk and fix it, and also add back in the quake style viewrolling which instantly makes it 10x more fun

>> No.7233879

wait what? That's fucking gay.

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BTW, why is this the only proper game for goldsrc (i.e. besides CS:CZ which is pretty much a 'story mode' for an olnine-only mod, and the two HL addons) that was ever released? Was the HL engine really that shitty for developing compared to Unreal's or q2 / q3Arena engines were?

>> No.7233889

>But really, where the fuck does Half-Life fit in on the retro fps continuum?

Puzzle FPS before its time. And no physics.

Unironically in the Duke type arsenal.

Yes HL is a semi fps, its more about puzzles, a broken elevator, jumping on ledges, fighting in precarious terrain, I think maybe they wanted to go horror and make enemies super strong so Gordon would have to resource constantly to sniping, trip mines, those alien distraction thingies etc.

The best memories I have of half life is making the soldiers fall into my traps, and vice versa them trapping Gordon multiple times, with improvised explosions, tanks and barricadesthat felt threatening, ninja assassins etc.

The game was a bit too early for its ambition, but thats it, its the world\military\even aliens trying to trap Gordon, and gordon outsmarting and using traps instead.

>> No.7233895

Is rocket jumping the only way to reach that secret on the top floor?

>> No.7233897

Or you can download the non steam version and use Xash

>> No.7233906

poor maps built into the wall because of hardware limitations.

>> No.7233910

This thing kinda spooked me

>> No.7233915

HL engine was great, but dealing with the soviet union of Seattle and its residents is another story, mainly Gaben and Valve who became that thanks to fucking randy the backstabber.

>> No.7233924

goldsrc is pretty easy to develop for, about on par with quake 2
valve just didn't license out the engine like epic or id did

>> No.7233928

Can't change the resolution

>> No.7233929

The space station part is amazing but the game really takes a dive after that.

>> No.7233930

Btsx e3. I've waited it from 2015. Sad.

>> No.7233934

just like duke nukem

>> No.7233951
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Well you do get a tsundere waifu ai.

I have realized most games with waifu ais with big tits get good luck. Maybe its the universe telling us something.

Anyway all games should have a sidekick female ai that wants to desperately create a android to fuck.

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>> No.7233981

Damn, I really wish we had a good fantasy game on Build engine.

>> No.7233993
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Trying to simulate blood being poured into acid river. Does this look reasonable to you?

>> No.7234000

Thinner stream pouring down, with a larger pool at the bottom.

>> No.7234008
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For reference, this is how it looks from above. Not sure what proportions would look right.

>> No.7234021

It all seems a little too straight at the bottom.

>> No.7234072

Your fall is more blood than nukage, but the flats have barely any blood. So either make the bloodfall much thinner or the blood puddle much bigger.

>> No.7234145

make a bunch of jagged angles, then use the "curve linedef" feature to simulate natural curves that appear in liquids as opposed to geometric triangles.

>> No.7234151

The wiki is right the release date is September 30 1994, cope.

>> No.7234189

Although I only played the demo when it wash fresh, but really liked the 'aztec temples deep in alien jungle with dinosaurs' enviroment and how highly customizable the shotgun and RocketLauncher were in this one - apparently the ChemThrower goes even further with that idea, giving you in total 625 possible fire modes to choose from

>> No.7234192

It may seem exciting now but wait until you have to deal with vertex animations and the hacked-together physics engine

>> No.7234195

Play it now. The space station part is really nice weird sci fi setting.
Its pretty nice.

>> No.7234216

Who designed the cyberdemon and e2m8?

Hearing that stomping was brilliant

>> No.7234219

Sandy did the level.

>> No.7234221

>Soviet Union of Seattle
Seattle wasn't as crazy with Marxist-Maoist and Trotskyist ideology in the 80s and 90s as it usually is nowadays.

>> No.7234226

Tower of babel was Sandy thinking about the minotaur

>> No.7234238 [DELETED] 

It doesn't because it's the antithesis of of retro FPS, the very opposite of what made the so called "golden age" great

>> No.7234247

Yeah, making the blood area more curved makes it better. I'll keep experimenting on it later, probably.

>> No.7234249

Washington was explicitly founded as a white supremacist state and their police forces are all klansmen lol

>> No.7234251 [DELETED] 

Back to Doomworld faggot.

>> No.7234257

Back to Doomworld faggot

>> No.7234297

its Q2RTX but the rolf guy is restoring thew agressive AI behavior

>> No.7234303 [DELETED] 

Spoiler:Doomworld likes Half-Life

>> No.7234307

He needs to leave for nuking multiple threads.

>> No.7234314 [DELETED] 

>antithesis of of retro FPS
This isn't wrong, virtually overnight design philosophies in FPS changed when Half-Life blew up. If he is going for games like that and games that recapture the same feeling, I can understand why Quakewulf wouldn't include it.

>> No.7234318 [DELETED] 

You've been replying to me, I'm not alf which is why I said so called and used quotes.

>> No.7234324

kys spammer

>> No.7234327 [DELETED] 
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You guys know what's based? Hexen.

>> No.7234331 [DELETED] 

what exactly about what I said is spam? if you think it's incorrect in some way, please explain. it seems obvious FPS design became much different than it had been before after that point. note I didn't say if that was good or bad, just different.

>> No.7234339

And no one cares except schizos who live in the past.

>> No.7234350

This is why no one takes you seriously

>> No.7234354

Based on that bureaucracy scene from Asterix of course

>> No.7234356 [DELETED] 

we are literally on /vr/. this thread is for 90s FPS. everyone here lives in the past.

>> No.7234357


>> No.7234361 [DELETED] 

who is saying that? where is anyone saying you can't discuss Half-Life? not everyone here is the same person but I see he's poisoned the well enough that even bringing it u

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Why did Id or Bethesda or whoever was behind Q2RTX ever decide to change the model for the railgun? I get that the models in general had to be remade or touched up so it's not a straight rip of low poly models that'd otherwise look "bad," but why would you completely change, and in this case completely fuck up, the original designs for any of them (at least the actual physical shapes of said models, not counting textures or anything else), let alone one of the most recognizable weapons in not only this franchise, but gaming in general? It's shit like this that I have honestly no idea what was going on in the devs' heads, cus it's not like the original railgun's design would've driven away zoomers that wanted to check out this revamped version of an old game, or that it would've otherwise affected the marketing of Q2RTX at all. Plus having a completely different model does nothing to show the graphical capabilities of the port at all; any shmuck could've made a similar model in any other source port, not to mention also the fact that a new model with completely different geometry would be any more "RTX-y" if that makes sense.

>> No.7234364

RetroPEW is fucking retarded

>> No.7234368 [DELETED] 

*bringing it up causes people to get defensive

>> No.7234370 [DELETED] 


>> No.7234380

SW railgun > Q2 railgun

>> No.7234381 [DELETED] 


>> No.7234383

Half LIfe is a retro classic fps cope revisionist zoomers.

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Because it doesn't have a shrine to Cringe-Life

>> No.7234395

>doom clones
>golden age

>> No.7234396 [DELETED] 

No one said it wasn't retro. Saying it killed the "golden age of FPS" isn't even saying it isn't retro. By the boards definition, it is most certainly a retro game.

>> No.7234412
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Monster design was largely a group effort ideas-wise, Bobby Prince did the music and sound, and would give an idea or two and provided some of his interpretation, Sandy Petersen is a huge Lovecraft nerd and pitched in a lot of his ideas, and then you've got Tom Hall, Shawn Green, and John Romero, all coming up with or altering/developing concepts here and there.
Adrian Carmack would do a huge chunk of the hard work on them though, sculpting and posing clay models (Zombies/Doomguy, Baron, Cyber), then him and Kevin Cloud would digitize them on a rotating stand and a video camera.

Some monsters were also drawn by hand, like the Imp and Cacodemon, which was time consuming, and as it turned out, sculpting clay onto those wooden pose dolls you can find in art-stores (which are somewhat rigid and limited), and then shining a bright spotlight on them to light them (warming up the clay), they would not seldom break between poses, see pic related, which necessitates frequently repairing them, causing visual inconsistencies if you're not meticulous. Because of this, they hired Gregor Punchatz, a movie special effects guy with a studio of his own, he'd sculpt monsters after Adrian's designs, then cast those to create moulds, which he'd use to create latex skins, then dressing those skins over poseable steel skeletons and painting on detail. You'll see those guys later (assuming you're playing for the first time).

These latex-steel models were very consistent and easy to pose, and also had a good Hollywood look to them, so that worked out very well, though Gregor may not have accounted quite for detail vs. resolution like Adrian did with his clay models (looking at how simple pic related's face is), so sometimes a lot of fine details disappeared at the comparatively low resolution, requiring a bit of tweaking in post to make up for that. Gregor's dad, Don Ivan Punchatz, was also a very accomplished poster/cover illustrator, and they hired him to paint Doom's cover.

>> No.7234418

The list is incomplete anyway.
>Saying it killed the "golden age of FPS" isn't even saying it isn't retro.
you weren't even born shut up

>> No.7234424 [DELETED] 

I was born in 1985.

>> No.7234427

How do you manage to have this 22 year old game in your head rent free lol

>> No.7234431


>> No.7234432

Disagree. Whole game is pretty solid. Especially because it never overstays it's welcome. You can beat it in a night or two.

>> No.7234437


>> No.7234438 [DELETED] 

I literally showed you my ID one day fag

>> No.7234443 [DELETED] 

Cope harder queer I never said you couldn't talk about it, just called you gay for doing so.

>> No.7234445 [DELETED] 

Take meds

>> No.7234460

>Unity and Unreal 4 run like ass
Is this true? I was able to play through Amid Evil (tuned down) and Dusk on an absolute toaster.
I think those engines run fine as a base and you just have to be smart with how you do things.
Anecdotal experience nonetheless.

>> No.7234461

eat shit and die

>> No.7234462

congratulations retards, this thread is going to be deleted again...

>> No.7234523

he didn't make the op so we are fine

>> No.7234537

I don't get how an incomplete list have to do with Half Life.

>> No.7234549

Not my fault the schizo can't help himself when the game is mentioned and tries to bring Quakewulf to the drama.

>> No.7234551

Hide and report dingus

>> No.7234563

Already did.

>> No.7234564

That cooldown between reports and having to solve a captcha every goddamn time makes it really tedious. It's frustrating how often it seems we're ignored, I'm convinced half the reports that are sent are placebos

>> No.7234567

refute this>>7233889

>> No.7234585

No, walk in the teleporter with the Quake logo shadow in front of it from the back side.

>> No.7234673

Maybe sure, but the station part is great.

The tank section and later part is just okay.

>> No.7234741

>thinking a list means anything

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>> No.7234754

Wow, thanks for detailed respone!

Haha I had a feeling the map design was sandy.

At this point, many of my favorite doom things are sandy . No wonder I didn't like heretic as much...

What god

>> No.7234758
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>> No.7234760

>no Dark Forces

>> No.7234772

It's actually "rent-free" for everyone. Many modders and reviewers have patreons and kofis, some even went and released their work as commercial product.

>> No.7234774

i meant the schizo

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>everything or nearly everything about Washington state was founded on White Supremacy.
[citation needed]
Oh yeah, its probably MSNBC, CNN, VICELAND (the latter of which is particularly full of actual pedophiles and hypocrites), those deluded goons and NPCs. Yes, good goy. Big tech and Israel truly care for you and your utmost best of interests; receive, believe, and consume our (((kool-aid))).

>> No.7234874

Core Decay

>> No.7234913 [DELETED] 

Now that one is unforgivable

>> No.7234921
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not sure if this is newspost-worthy but

Especially good for mapmakers because it shows you how to avoid the blockmap bug manifesting in your map

>> No.7234923 [DELETED] 

The only time I think about Gay-Life is when I shit on it and make you invariably REEEEEE and post this same message:

>> No.7234930

you have low iq

>> No.7234938

We should add HL in the list to make you seethe.

>> No.7234940

Does it explain mysterious holes where things fall into and disappear?

>> No.7234974

>This was hacked in for DOS support in a way that's not compatible with the sourceport ways
What do u mean? All sourceports can read dehacked files. It's just weird he chose not to include his dehacked file inside the wad itself like normal people do.

In the past, you used to have to use separate dehacked files to change things in the game for your custom maps. Eventually, sourceports learned to read these things while they were baked inside the wad itself, so old wads have separate dehacked files, while new ones do not, with one important exception: new vanilla-compatible wads will have the dehacked file both inside and outside of the wad so that modern ports just need the wad and the original .exe can still be patched with the dehacked file

>> No.7234979 [DELETED] 

Nice rebuttal

>> No.7234985
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Are there any DOOM WADs named after precious gems or metals?

>> No.7234987 [DELETED] 

What list? QuakeWulfs? Who cares?

>> No.7234989


>> No.7234994

>Who cares?
Alf apparently

>> No.7235000

says the guy derailing a thread because somebody doesn't like a video game

>> No.7235010

the irony.

>> No.7235025

Go bang rocks instead of posting on an online board then you LARPing poser.

>> No.7235029

What is it?

>> No.7235032

if somebody saying "Gay-Life" makes you post dozens of asshurt spam posts then maybe you should take a break from the internet

>> No.7235035

if HL being mentioned makes you post your schizo pasta maybe you should take a break from the internet.

>> No.7235045

>calls me a schizo
>thinks anyone fed up with his tantrum is alf
simply kino
I enjoy Half-Life but as a heterosexual adult male i don't give a shit if some random guy doesn't

>> No.7235046

Based schizo making this thread longer.
We couldn't make it without you.

>> No.7235049
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>E3M9 has a hidden BFG that isn't tagged as a secret
It doesn't help me in any way because you already get the BFG in E3M3 and I don't do E3M9 IL runs, but I'm still mad that I didn't know this.

>> No.7235050

He does more than that.
Multiple threads were deleted because him.

>> No.7235058

He made those threads, fool.

>> No.7235059

cry more sissy i'm sure that'll solve the problem

>> No.7235065

It's still cell ammo.

>> No.7235089

If you were to add another boss type demon alongside Cyberdemon and SMM what would it be?
Beside Mother Demon of course

>> No.7235094

one that looks like a penis

>> No.7235110

Arch-Revenant. Can revive revenants, bosses, fires homing actual rockets.

>> No.7235115 [DELETED] 

Retarded jannies wiped all his posts because one of you crybabies reported him for calling you a faggot or something and that's why OPs got deleted. They must've just done it again because we are not 60 something posts less than we were a minute ago and there was only about a few critical of Half-Life meaning the rest must've been normal discussion.

Just saying a few of you seem to get way more upset than you should about someone baiting you by calling Half-Life bad

>> No.7235121

he spams

>> No.7235124

You just replied to him too.

>> No.7235126 [DELETED] 

*we are now 60 posts less

We were at bump limit.

>> No.7235129
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>It doesn't help me in any way because you already get the BFG in E3M3

He doesn't pistol start

>> No.7235132 [DELETED] 

Where? I never see more than a post or two of bait per thread unless you engage which a couple of you always seem to do.

>> No.7235135

>he does pistol start

>> No.7235136

Something stupidly fast and relatively small compared to the clunky and cumbersome other two.

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I managed to add in Doom Center's vehicle code, so now you can run down those Nanotrasen bastards.

I even managed to fix the vehicle vanishing if you leave it.

>> No.7235151

What did he mean by this?

>> No.7235152
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No, jannies wiped his posts because he used the T-word, pic related is the deleted thread. I got temp-banned across all boards for two weeks for posting a picture of a certain Doom speedrunner and asking "What went wrong?"

>> No.7235153
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These things creep me out more than monsters. I thought they were aliens, the way they move is unnatural.

>> No.7235156

a bigass manc and revenant
but only if i can also have a baron sized cybie
you know, to complete the roster

>> No.7235159

love how they use cloak on hard

>> No.7235164
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Can't animate for shit, not like that's going to stop me from trying.

>> No.7235167

low poly tit jiggle is exquisite. All games should have it.

>> No.7235168

I didn't even know they didn't cloak on other difficulties. Only time I played on anything but Hard was the first time when the game came out.

>> No.7235169

I like it

>> No.7235174

>forced animations when picking up keys

How about putting your animation skill to something that doesn't become a burden.

>> No.7235176

Eh, it works fine, if all fails just give her an animation where she spins either the card or a skull on her fingertip.

>> No.7235179

It doesn't help me in any way because nightmare already gives you 2x ammo and you already exit E3M8 with more than enough cell ammo unless you blunder

>> No.7235181

Who is making Doom Center these days? there's no info anywhere

>> No.7235184
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shit's toggleable

>> No.7235186

Snake-demon with the ability to leave the ground and briefly fly/change moveset, plus a directional dodge/tackle. Shoots some kind of fast, weak projectile in different shape arrays, plus heavier poison shots.
Sick as hell. I suggest allowing the animation to be skipped by attacking/swapping weapons ala ULTRAKILL if they aren't already

>> No.7235187

I assume you made it so you can skip those animations by switching weapons and attacking too.

>> No.7235205

skipping will glitch the shit out of everything. this whole system is held together with gross hacks (they were going to be even more gross, but engine limitations™ currently prevent that)

>> No.7235216

Shame, really. If I were doing this, I would have just made the key pickup state in every weapon and stack a_weaponready everywhere so the player can skip it with the press of the fire key.

>> No.7235221

the problem is that they're technically not weapons

>> No.7235226


Hey doombros, let's make this Xmas count!

How bout we [by we I mean people with any artistic skills whatsoever] a bunch of xmas pictures, which I will make into OP in the next thread and share our doom-related wishes?
> inb4: that's faggy

>> No.7235229

The keys? Of course not, unless you mean to tell me all of your weapons aren't actually weapons.

>> No.7235231

>precious gems

>> No.7235232
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pretty much my upscaling shenanigans for monsters and weapons using the concepts
Skyboxes for the mission packs included

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>> No.7235235 [DELETED] 

We can be banned for calling people trannies now? Is Marisa a janny or something?

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just started this and punching shit.

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Good. All that serves to function is to derail threads from retrofps. Take that shit to >>>/pol/ or >>>/lgbt/

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>project brutality

>> No.7235271

i'm starting to think people post pb screenshots with bilinear filtering as bait

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Censorship is fucking gay, discord tranny

>> No.7235274

Some kind of otherworldly flying flesh thing akin to the Spidermastermind replacement in Shut Up And Bleed

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>> No.7235285

As far as i know, it hasn't been maintained in years.

To be honest, i don't even know who made it.

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Hey, you.
When's the last fucking time you backed it up? Don't fall victim to complacency, protect your hard work, back your shit up/

>> No.7235302

I'll do it tomorrow.

>> No.7235307 [DELETED] 

What even is Doom Center?

>> No.7235315
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and since im stupid
Here is the Old fixed Skin if you hate the QC one

>> No.7235321


>> No.7235330


>> No.7235335
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>mfw peepeepoomer boards, dw, zdoom forums etc are all complete shit and this place is the only one I can still find interesting free discussion

>> No.7235340

I still see new versions of it on zandronum, from what i've been told it's still being updated. i'm pretty sure mike12 made it

>> No.7235358

Playing Doom 64 rerelease, just got to the second secret map Omega Outpost, I gotta find a demon key to power up the Unmaker here right?

>> No.7235370

It'll be helpful, though you can get by without it, even if you have just two keys by the end, it does a lot.

>> No.7235371

Nope, in rerelease you don't need to get keys - they are automatically in the weapon.

>> No.7235387

That's not true

>> No.7235397

wouldn't that ruin the whole purpose of exploring them?

>> No.7235408

>t. fag who has never played rerelease and repeats false stuff about it to make himself feel better about missing out on the based new episode

>> No.7235409

What's the problem with that pathway overall?

>> No.7235412

What if Plutonia took place on Pluto?

>> No.7235413

The only thing that sticks out to me is that the elbow doesn't bend much, it feels like the whole arm is one long tube.

>> No.7235414

Nothing it's just a shitpost.

>> No.7235426

Anyway, you can still punch while they're being held so there's that.

>> No.7235430

>Doomer boards and Zdaemon forums are just as shit as Zdoom and the somewhat similarly fucked up Doomworld forums

>> No.7235437
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>there could have been actual "classic" keycards in the new doom games

>> No.7235439

t. Doomerboarder

>> No.7235440

I have no idea but here we are

>> No.7235456

Uninteresting. Give me Venusian acid cloud hell or go away,

>> No.7235459
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It's just shitposting. Word to the wise: Don't ever care about this internet Doom drama bullshit. Go play mods/maps, go make mods/maps, get involved with projects. Anything else is wasting your time.

>> No.7235463

I see no argument here, ya presumptuous goon. How are Doomer boards that bad?

>> No.7235471

This guy gets it

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>> No.7235475

Is that concept renders? Don't you already get keycards?

>> No.7235476


>> No.7235480

They're all cancer, Peepeepoomer boards is just the same 12 cringe autists and the rest have Manrisa AIDS

>> No.7235490

Get rid of that watermark and that's a 10/10 image.

>> No.7235494
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Whoa, well spotted. I've removed it.

>> No.7235507


Welp my wish is the same for like 20th year now: to beat original Ultimate Doom on UV. I am getting better though

>> No.7235514
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What exactly is keeping you from doing that? Look I respect that we're all different and such, but I am not seeing how that is especially difficult.

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Too much dead space

>> No.7235529
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Have you ever found yourself in a position where you need to bridge together two rooms and all your ideas are complete shit?

>> No.7235531

No, goldsource had probably the most of FPS mods after Doom.

>> No.7235532

idk man. All I can say is I'm not 13 anymore. And at that point I wasn't good enough yet and just spent a lot of time on pointless bullshit like hanging with girls and such. Now I can't even beat the game I love on a difficulty that some apparently even consider "standard"

>> No.7235534

What about Unreal and Build?

>> No.7235536

What are the 5 best maps on D!Zone?

>> No.7235537

Whoa I was just asking

>> No.7235542

There are more official games but certainly less user content. Goldsource is easiest 3d engine to mod.

>> No.7235545

HMP is standard no matter what spergs say

>> No.7235546

How far have you gotten so far? E4M1 and E4M2 will probably make you commit suicide

>> No.7235550

Nah, fuck off.

>> No.7235553

No one said it wasn't.

>> No.7235558

Then keep shitposting, who cares

>> No.7235560

cringeworld damage control is out in force today

>> No.7235567

You do, obviously.

>> No.7235568


>> No.7235569

I think about it anyway from time to time.
Anyway it's the third level of Knee Deep that gets me. It's really long and I don't use saves, so something's bound to fuck me in the end.

>> No.7235571

Cacoward winners can't even beat their own fucking maps nowadays. It's a sad state of affairs.

>> No.7235572

I do. But one person sick of shitposting isn't enough to change the thread.

>> No.7235574

The models look great, anim is a little "floaty".

One of the main reason IMO Doom is so great or addicting is while using certain mods its probably the most responsive and reactive FPS games I've personally ever played. Take something like PB 3.0 that has some the best animations out of any mod but the dichotomy of having such fast gameplay and being locked in a 3+ second animation really kills it for me.

I remember being hooked on ARMA and one instance where I was 3 command menus deep trying to fiddle fuck with something, then being shot at and in that moment realizing how important removing what I would consider gameplay "bottle necks" can actually be. Thats why COD or hell even Far Cry works so well and will have virtually infinite appeal. As much as I love New Vegas I basically can't even look at that game anymore (ungodly amount of hours). There are moments where the animations breaking, input delay, lack of feedback, hit detection etc. all combine to be a cluster fuck of jank.

I would even go as far as to say thats one of Hideous Destructors biggest flaws, once again, IMO being locked in an animation and not being able to switch/stop or manipulate it any way.

/rant not necessarily directed at you just as a general concept

>> No.7235575

I'm still pissed you were passive aggressive as fuck to a simple question. Didn't need your life story, just what you said there, the "bit you were struggling with", would have done.

>> No.7235583

I really wasn't, I just don't feel good anon

>> No.7235586

New Duke 3D map

>> No.7235590

If everyone likes shitposting and you don't, then you're the odd man out.

>> No.7235604

I know. It's why I just stick to working on my mods and posting them.

>> No.7235610

is not on D:\

>> No.7235612

Why not direct them to these boards:

>> No.7235616

have you tried looking at the sun in real life?

>> No.7235619

Well, go there then if you hate it so much here. I don't understand why we should bow to insane and inane standards you are trying to impose on us.

>> No.7235627

t. dilettante. The gore on the floor makes it more comical. Like the cultist took a break from the daily slaughter to shitpost.

>> No.7235631

>4 engines
>multiple shortcut keys
>kill yourself
real story

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>> No.7235638

Anon, you're a huge fucking faggot.

>> No.7235639

>It's an insane standard to not want shitposting
wew, lad

>> No.7235642

are you retarded

>> No.7235657

No, he's one of the shitposters. The trick now is to act like he's in the right and call other people who call them out on their bullshit schizos or reply with "take your meds"

>> No.7235664 [DELETED] 


Alf, rope, use it

>> No.7235667

The problem with you is that you are trying to shut down opposition by declaring the exposing of unsettling developments in Doom community a shitposting. How about, instead of demanding everyone here to bury their heads in the sand, you go do same at DW/ZDF next time they are cancelling soime poor modder over s stupid thing. I'm sure they will appreciate you telling them to chill out and enjoy some mods, right?

>> No.7235672

new thread any time soon?

>> No.7235673

We're not your personal army, fuck off.

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>the exposing of unsettling developments in Doom community
fucking lmao you go crusader

>> No.7235683

All this started because Half Life, Turok and Unreal mindbroke him.

>> No.7235684

Who's "we" you're talking about? This is the fight you fight alone.

>> No.7235693

Why not make it?

>> No.7235696

Too early. Wait just a little longer.

>> No.7235697

I thought there was a guy who kinda made it his job to do that desu

>> No.7235703

Newsposter, yes. But one day he'll die. That's why there're instructions on how to do the OP.

>> No.7235706

We lost him awhile ago. Right now it's just whoever steps up to the plate, which is why we've been having shitposting faggots start the thread, shit it up, and then the thread gets deleted.

>> No.7235709

>We lost him awhile ago
Anon it's the Quake II guy.

>> No.7235710 [DELETED] 

Okay, I'm gonna make a new thread when this one goes down a bit deeper, but I got to warn you - I'm that shitposter that you hate so much. Be careful not to report any shitposting in the thread or else it will be deleted. I may also pretend that I am different anon and I beat the shitposter to the punch, but you have no way of confirming whether it's actually true or it's still me.

>> No.7235715

don't do it then faggot

>> No.7235717
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oh no what will i do you're the only one who can make new threads

>> No.7235723

Return to doomworld

>> No.7235724

get the previous post link and news post right, just in case

>> No.7235731

Maybe I won't, but you will have no way of telling.

How do you know I'm not going to make another thread as well? And how does everyone knows your post is not me samefagging as misdirection?

I am banned there.

>> No.7235743

Man you are obsessed with this thread.

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>> No.7235827

nobody cares and you have no power over us loser

>> No.7235954

God shut up, make a thread or not idc, just quit acting like a shitty cartoon villain you sperg

>> No.7236101

God, railway Half-Life level is boring as shit.

>> No.7236104

>railway Half-Life level
it's one of the best levels, filtered.

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>> No.7236117

The first eight chapters were great, this one feels repetitive.

>> No.7236274
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It is you who don't know shit, anon. Have you actually tried any of them on actual hardware?
The very graphic pipeline they use runs a lot of overhead shit even if you don't need it, and it takes a heavy toll on performance. They are HEAVILY CPU-bottlenecked.
Due to that, the difference between high poly and low poly environments/models is fairly low, since it's the GPU that crunches polys.
>but muh mobile
Uses small mostly static scenes with minimal enviromental interactivity, heavy LOD/occlusion culling and has to pause to load every other scene change.

There's a reason owners of older hardware heavily dislike both UE4 and Unity - low poly games that use them run no better than high-end games on same engines, while if being made on older engine with same visuals they would've run 5 times faster.

Both Amid Evil and Dusk work "fine" on modern PCs, in a sense that they put out decent FPS... While high poly games like AC Odyssey or Watch Dogs 2 give about the same FPS while being miles above in complexity.
On older hardware however (using G630, 8 Gb RAM, GTX 660 ti as a baseline of "old shit", which is poretty generous) they run at 30-40 fps, when that same hardware runs Skyrim SE or Warframe at 60.
Shit like Nightmare Reaper or Project warlock that have Wolf-tier environments run at similar ~40 fps, which is NOT FINE in my opinion for games of their "complexity".

Picrelated: Graven, an UE4 game that has ~Quake 2 level graphics while running geting 45-65 on i7 with 1080 Ti - Same as Borderlands 3 on same engine (and its miles above in complexity). (meanwhile AC Odyssey runs at 80+ and even unoptimised shit like Cyberpunk 2077 gets ~45-50 on med-high)

>> No.7236323

Don't think it would've been able to fit 32 levels.

>> No.7236332

Why noit, it's much larger than Deimos and Phobos

>> No.7236352

>Have you actually tried any of them on actual hardware?
yes, also fix anything you don't like, it's open source as I said

>> No.7236373

Each of those only have 9 maps apiece.

>> No.7236375

>just change the fundamental of how the engine handles graphics

>> No.7237145

HL is based.
That's all.

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