Deception

[Anonymous No.7218816]

The earlier games are pretty dark and depressing. You feel like shit killing a whole load of innocent people, and you can watch as some dumb peasant is trying to limp away meekly only to trigger your 16ton ball of death trap. Game puts me in a low mood but it is definitely an experience.

Why did they make the game like this? You feel like someone forced to become a serial killer.

[Anonymous No.7218867]

>play game for first time knowing that there are multiple endings for how many people you kill
>kill everybody to get "best ending"
>a demon who was never referenced before appears and makes you his immortal slave

welp

[Anonymous No.7218879]

>>7218867
>golden showers

[Anonymous No.7218886]

>>7218816
coom

[Anonymous No.7218902]

What's this game?

[Anonymous No.7218913]

>>7218867
>>a demon who was never referenced before appears and makes you his immortal slave

One of her early dialogue options is "it's my mission to kill humans". That hints at some dark shit mate.

[Anonymous No.7218919]

>>7218902
go to bed, zoom

[Anonymous No.7218924]

>>7218816
I don't get that costume design

[Anonymous No.7218946]

>>7218919
Fuck off. We have an actual video game thread here.

>>7218902
The game is a Home Alone simulator. People attack your domicile with the intention of killing you and you set up traps to kill them indirectly. It has some fun combos you can set up. The earlier games are a little clunky, but the series hits its stride when during the 2nd and 3rd games.

[Anonymous No.7218963]

>>7218946

You're not a bad guy, everyone there is violating the NAP and trying to kill you for one reason or another. It's 4 when you play as someone that's actually evil iirc.

[Anonymous No.7218973]

>>7218816

Here are a few Kagero books and dvds scanned and uploaded

https://e-hentai.org/g/1765741/2b29e7aa66/
https://e-hentai.org/g/1678678/bb1a086e53/
https://archive.org/details/TecmoDeceptionDocumentary
https://archive.org/details/DeceptionIVArtbook/mode/2up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrE2u_TbaII

[Anonymous No.7218979]

>>7218963
I would say 1 had you an anti hero at best. You don't willingly go along with it, but you do spill some innocent blood in the game.

[Anonymous No.7219013]

>>7218973

wish we had subs for the dvd special. I can just barely make out what is going on with the limited Japanese knowledge and auto-translated subs.

[Anonymous No.7219113]

>>7218913
>>7218867
If you go by some implications, Millenia is supposed to be Astarte, the demoness from the first game.

[Anonymous No.7219120]

heh heh

[Anonymous No.7219136]

I seem to have misplaced all my Kagero webbums, what a pain.

[Anonymous No.7219139]

>>7219136
>>7219120

I was forgetting how rough and basic the first game looked. It's only a little step above King's Field.

[Anonymous No.7219146]

>>7219139
It looks EXCELLENT

[Anonymous No.7219148]

>>7219139
Cry harder

[Anonymous No.7219156]

I played the first two missions on an emulator after seeing these posts. The concept is amazing, but the execution is really lacking. I won't play them further, but I'll see if I can a decent let's play or longplay on youtube. It's definetly a unique game.

[Anonymous No.7219167]

>>7219146
Still no idea how this game got away with a teen rating.

[Anonymous No.7219179]

>>7219167

It's not graphic in its violence, but it's actually very dark and quite disturbing with the tone and content. You feel like a serial killer and secretly want these people to somehow get away. "Please stop attacking me I don't want to hurt anyone else!".

[Anonymous No.7219186]

>>7219167
It's a bit over the top to be really taken seriously

[Anonymous No.7219203]

>>7218816
I loved this game. I was kidnapped by my mother for a year and only had this game, Doom, MGS, the C&C red alert port and resident Evil 2/3 to play while she kept us on the run. The 3 deception sucked though.

[Anonymous No.7219210]

>>7218816
Looks interesting. What's the game called? Just "Deception"? Never heard of it before.

[Anonymous No.7219247]

i played the 3, very fun.
i still remember the my despair trying to killing the old witcher that teleports.

[Anonymous No.7219254]

>>7219247
I hated 3 just because of the fact you can't kill everyone at first opportunity.

[Anonymous No.7219259]

>>7218973
That outfit was so lame. Astarie from 2 was way hotter

[Anonymous No.7219263]

>>7219259
that magnificent ass though

[Anonymous No.7219273]

>>7219210
Series goes in the west by 3 names
Tecmo's Deception
Kagero
Trapt

[Anonymous No.7219314]

>>7219259
bro, tummie

[Anonymous No.7219349]

It's better to watch the game than play it.

Go play the game and you'll understand why I think that game is better enjoyed that way.
The gameplay is a bit clunky. You enter rooms and set traps, but you can only activate the traps of the rooms you're in. Since the camera is in third person instead of being above your head, it's sometimes difficult to assess where the enemy is compared to the traps you've laid. And that's without taking the less than stellar pathfinding abilities of the AI. I've seen a peasant stay stuck in a corridor (where you can't lay traps) for a while. The payoff of the game is watching the enemy fall victim to the traps.

By watching that game being played, you get the good part, while avoiding the clunky and frustrating parts. A good game must be played, but an average or unequal game can be watched.

[Anonymous No.7219372]

>>7219349
>It's better to watch the game
zoom, go give 5 dollars to your e-celeb say your name.

[Anonymous No.7219407]

The translation was really bad in part 3

[Anonymous No.7219453]

IV lightens the mood with slapstick. yes or nay?

[Anonymous No.7219481]

>>7219203
>kidnapped by my mother
She she take you to the island of Alendar?

[Anonymous No.7219493]

[Anonymous No.7220043]

>>7219349
Dumb Twitch faggot

[Anonymous No.7220054]

>>7218973
>>7219259
Didn't Helena wear that in Dead or Alive 2?

[Anonymous No.7220078]

>>7219481
No she made us flee to Finland where she had no connections or family to flee from my dad and spent her family inheritance keep us there until her money ran out. I finally got to live with my dad after but the fucking bitch never went to jail for it.

[Anonymous No.7220121]

>>7218816
>that design
Wait a minute... Iga, come here

[Anonymous No.7220132]

>>7219263
Totally

[Anonymous No.7220341]

>>7220121

It's the deception girl + his wife. Not joking.

[Anonymous No.7220471]

>>7218816
That videogame was something like manhunt of rockstar, but in the medieval ages, with magic powers and with some female enemies too.

[Anonymous No.7220983]

Is the gameplay really that bad?
I think it's an interesting concept but judging from some comments and the videos I saw it must be a horribly unfun game.

[Anonymous No.7221152]

>>7220983
just play it, you'll have the answer in the first 10 minutes.

[Anonymous No.7221175]

>>7220983
I played Deception 2 for the first time in 2017, so I did not have nostalgia goggles on, and I had a lot of fun with it. Its a short game with 20 levels, the game stays fresh introducing different enemy types that have to be baited differently, and getting access to more traps which allow you to experiment. But I guess you have to see for yourself.

[Anonymous No.7221274]

I've been wanting to play the first again, but I guess there are multiple endings and it makes me anxious.

What are the requirements to get the best ending?

[Anonymous No.7221465]

>>7220983
It gives a satisfying feeling seeing smug assholes get caught in traps, if you don't like that than get out of my face

[Anonymous No.7221979]

>>7219167
Back then, you could get away with much more with a Teen rating. That Bruce Willis Apocalypse game had blood and body parts flying all over the place(IIRC), and it was rated T.

[Anonymous No.7222083]

>>7220983
It's what you make out of it. You can make boring traps, you can make fun traps.

[Anonymous No.7222113]

>>7219167
I honestly think ESRB didn't play the games during the PS1 era. I mean Final Fantasy 7 has bestiality and assloads of blood and gore.

[Anonymous No.7222127]

>>7220983

A Zoom-Zoom is gonna fire it up and only see the limitations and flaws. Yeah, if there was a new game in the series or a spiritual successor i wouldn't want it to play out exactly the same and i'd want it to be a little bit more polished. But it is still really interesting and offers a totally unique gameplay experience. I can't think of any other game where you can't fight the enemies directly but place traps.

1 is kind of ugly and a bit too rough. 2-3 are worth playing.

A lot of it depends on how much tolerance you have for slow less than refined games from 25 years ago. If you're on /vr/ you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.7222137]

What does it say

[Anonymous No.7222147]

>>7222137
imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.7222170]

>>7222147
gud one

[Anonymous No.7222171]

>>7222137

>Leather, something slightly shiny.

[Anonymous No.7222304]

>>7222137

>革 、 や や 光 沢 の あ る も の

Use this:
https://translate.yandex.com/ocr

[Anonymous No.7224020]

shit gaem.

[Anonymous No.7224080]

>>7219453
>IV
Not retro

[Anonymous No.7225001]

>>7219372
i'll give you 5 dollars to eat my shit

[Anonymous No.7225280]

>>7219453
I'm not a fan of the change in tone, but they improved the gameplay so much that I'm entirely willing to forgive it. Laegrinna is also a much better protagonist than those in the previous two installments, thankfully.

>>7220983
I enjoyed every game in the series, though in the case of the first game I'll admit that's more due to the plot and how unique the game is rather than the gameplay. The gameplay in the others has some flaws and isn't going to appeal to everyone, but it isn't bad.

>>7221274
I think you'd be better off just enjoying the ride rather than worrying about a "best" ending. This will become even more true if you try the later games, where it's hard to say which ending should really even be thought of as the best or happiest one. Additionally, some of the game's more memorable moments occur when aiming for a "bad" ending. That said, the only thing you really need to know in order to influence Deception 1's ending is that how quickly you eliminate the enemy in chapter 8 is important. There are some choices later on that matter a great deal, but their significance is pretty obvious.

[Anonymous No.7226249]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUwdrvgmTo

I hate her running animation in 2. It's so slow compared to how fast she moves.

[Anonymous No.7226294]

>first mission your master literally just invites some random dude over so you can murder him
>if you kill him his wife starts asking around

Jeesus. This game is just dark man. Why can't I play a nice guy who's trying to help people?

[Anonymous No.7226347]

>>7226294
The kid had fun

[Anonymous No.7226409]

This series got worse with every new entry. 1 and 2 are kino though

[Anonymous No.7226493]

>>7226409
Storywise maybe

[Anonymous No.7226531]

If I liked IV, will I like the other games?

[Anonymous No.7226597]

>>7226531

Yes, though they're older and rougher. 1 is the roughest and it's a bit ugly.

[Anonymous No.7227172]

>>7226409
The gameplay largely improved with each new entry, and I think Deception 2's plot is at least as good as the original's.

>>7226531
Maybe. The earlier games are generally quite a bit slower and easier, but the core mechanics haven't changed all that much since Deception 2. I think Darkside/Nightmare Princess is the best entry overall, but I enjoyed all of them.

[Anonymous No.7228286]

>>7226347

>An active boy who likes spicy foods and adventure. Kill him only if you're feeling expecially evil. He's dying anyway.

Jesus. THis game is so dark.

[Anonymous No.7228287]

>>7228286

>Thoma's sister. Worried about her parents, she goes to the castle to find them. Not a smart move, kid.

Half the plot is you cause a cascade of idiots checking your castle out so you have to kill them. It's like "please leave me alone. I don't want to kill you idiots.".

[Anonymous No.7228551]

>>7222113
It had one scene of "I'm going to have this animal rape you" which was Red faking out Hojo, and the only blood in the entire game was Sephiroth right at the end.

FF in general tends to be bloodless.

[Anonymous No.7228553]

>>7228286
>He's dying anyway.

Mercy kill

[Anonymous No.7229885]

>>7220054
Yeah there was some crossover costumes in several of the DoA games. Likewise Deception has DoA costumes.

[Anonymous No.7229895]

[Anonymous No.7229896]

>>7225280
Thanks, anon.

>I think you'd be better off just enjoying the ride rather than worrying about a "best" ending.
I'm not that type of player, I can't enjoy a game if I don't know how what I'm doing will influence the ending.

[Anonymous No.7231246]

>>7226294
To be fair, if you don't harm him at all, the retard and his retarded friend come back the next day looking for trouble. While there aren't many, there are some people you can spare and others will flee once critically injured.

Kagero was my favorite of the series because Millenia wasn't explicitly good or evil.

[Anonymous No.7231379]

>>7218867
>Unlock Suezo for subsequent playthroughs
I knew that one eyed fuck was a servant of Satan

[Anonymous No.7231629]

>>7228551
Did you forget the hallway scene at the beginning and the giant impaled snake with its blood dripping down the tree?

[Anonymous No.7231919]

>>7231629
... I actually did. I have no idea how I forgot those.

[Anonymous No.7232220]

>>7218973
what i wonder is, wich ending was the canon one in that game?

[Anonymous No.7234302]

>>7232220
I assume it's the total genocide route, but you could make a strong argument for most of them

[Anonymous No.7234942]

>>7229896
Fair enough. Just keep in mind that the various endings in Deception games are usually treated as being equally valid. There isn't really a "true" ending with more content to aim for or anything along those lines.

>>7231246
I do really like how Kagero's plot branching works, and how the player's choices and actions shape Millennia's personality. I wasn't a big fan of how the protagonists of 3 and Trapt were basically portrayed as just hapless victims. It got particularly silly in 3, where Reina still acts like a frightened waif who can scarcely bring herself to hurt anyone in cutscenes even after she's killed scores of people.

I have some misgivings about how the overall tone changed in 4, but I think Laegrinna is the best protagonist the series had seen in a while.

[Anonymous No.7234993]

>>7218816
I remember this series. later games also let you destroy clothing so alot of girls ended up with almost nothing on by the time they died.

[Anonymous No.7235031]

>>7234942
This is the power of zoom...

[Anonymous No.7235389]

>>7234993
Really?

[Anonymous No.7235512]

>>7234993

haha imagine if you could damage them so most of their clothing comes off and then like just capture them? Then you could put them into a cage and torture them forever. haha that would be a crazy game.